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Title: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: TheRocketRaccoon on September 17, 2018, 11:09:38 AM
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/cnn-polls-arizona-tennessee-senate/index.html

Bredi 50
Marsha B 45


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Zaybay on September 17, 2018, 11:10:42 AM
This race is a pure tossup, perhaps with a slight tilt towards Bredesen.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Virginiá on September 17, 2018, 11:11:31 AM
538 rating: A- with a slight R bias


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on September 17, 2018, 11:12:07 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on September 17, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
Yeet!


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Doimper on September 17, 2018, 11:15:53 AM
Put it right in my veins


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Xing on September 17, 2018, 11:16:04 AM
Likely R -> Titanium D

In all seriousness, I hope people will drop the Bayh comparisons. If Bredesen were to tank to a double digit loss, I don't think we'd be seeing anything better for him than a 5-6 point deficit in the polls by now, since he's had plenty of time to lose popularity and be seen as a generic D. My gut still says Blackburn pulls out a narrow win, but no one should be calling this race a forgone conclusion right now.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Jeppe on September 17, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
I sincerely hope that Bredesen is able to keep this lead. I'm not very optimistic, but I'm feeling better about this race than I was earlier this summer.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on September 17, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
This is really big not just because he has a decent lead, but because he is actually at 50. Bredesen may indeed actually be able to win this after all if that is about right, which would be a pretty amazing political feat.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Sestak on September 17, 2018, 11:17:38 AM
YES! Come on Bredesen, hang in there!


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on September 17, 2018, 11:18:07 AM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: SnowLabrador on September 17, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
YES! Not only is he ahead again, by 5 points no less, but he's at 50. Not saying Democrats should take this race for granted, but it's very encouraging to see that he's once more in the lead. Hopefully he leads in the only poll that matters, the actual vote count.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on September 17, 2018, 11:23:06 AM
TN is more likely to go Dem than FL



Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on September 17, 2018, 11:23:49 AM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: TheRocketRaccoon on September 17, 2018, 11:23:55 AM

no


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: junior chįmp on September 17, 2018, 11:26:24 AM

Rotflmao

Scott is finished bruh


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Zaybay on September 17, 2018, 11:27:18 AM

High Quality analysis here

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Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Politician on September 17, 2018, 11:39:15 AM
I think it's fair to call this Tilt D. "But IceSpear told me Bredesen would collapse over time like Bayh!"


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Dr. Arch on September 17, 2018, 11:42:21 AM
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Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: An American Tail: Fubart Goes West on September 17, 2018, 11:43:56 AM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: libertpaulian on September 17, 2018, 11:46:38 AM
Tossup, closer to Tilt D than Pure Tossup.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on September 17, 2018, 11:47:31 AM
The race is Bredesen +8 with RV

The GOP's strategy in this state was to try and dent Bredesen's favorables. That appears to be backfiring-

Bredesen 55/26% +29
Blackburn 45/43% +2


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: MT Treasurer on September 17, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
Bredesen, Sinema, Manchin all doing better than Tester? Blasphemy.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on September 17, 2018, 11:58:12 AM
Great news


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Skye on September 17, 2018, 12:03:08 PM
Likely R -> Titanium D

In all seriousness, I hope people will drop the Bayh comparisons. If Bredesen were to tank to a double digit loss, I don't think we'd be seeing anything better for him than a 5-6 point deficit in the polls by now, since he's had plenty of time to lose popularity and be seen as a generic D. My gut still says Blackburn pulls out a narrow win, but no one should be calling this race a forgone conclusion right now.

Yeah, even if Bredesen ends up losing, he's probably not going to lose as badly as Bayh.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: ON Progressive on September 17, 2018, 12:04:42 PM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Torrain on September 17, 2018, 12:05:28 PM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on September 17, 2018, 12:18:09 PM
I wonder if the Kavanaugh controversy may help GOPers on the fence come home.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Politician on September 17, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
I wonder if the Kavanaugh controversy may help GOPers on the fence come home.
What happened to "This is Safe R, Evan Bayh says hi"?


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 17, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
Oh wow, he might actually win this. Still not betting on it, but who knows.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: adrac on September 17, 2018, 01:30:01 PM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: 😥 on September 17, 2018, 02:00:49 PM


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: RussFeingoldWasRobbed on September 17, 2018, 02:29:58 PM
But atlas told me Bredesen was going to only decline and that he would be the next Evan Bayh?


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: wbrocks67 on September 17, 2018, 06:06:50 PM
At the end of the day, Bredesen is very liked, and his favorables are still sky high while Blackburn's are... not. And there is less than 50 days now. No way that Blackburn/GOP can kill his favorables now. I think people are underestimating how well liked he is. Partisanship certainly goes a long way, but in a Dem-favorable year with someone like Bredesen who has like +20, +30 favorables... I'd rather be him.


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on September 17, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
Back to tossup, I see. I'll ready my lean R rating for the next time that Blackburn is ahead.


Title: TN: SSRS: Bredesen with Slight Lead in Tennessee
Post by: ElectionAtlas on September 17, 2018, 08:14:50 PM
New Poll: Tennessee Senator by SSRS on 2018-09-15 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2018/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=47120180915272)

Summary: D: 50%, R: 45%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/09/17/rel1_tn.pdf)


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: NOVA Green on September 17, 2018, 09:34:13 PM
So, I won't go into this in as much detail as Arizona, but there are certain similarities:

1.) Health Care is the major priority of both LV (29%) and RV (27%) in Tennessee.

2,) Bredesen is leading (49-48 D) among voters 65+   and (55-42 D) voters 50-64.

3.) Trump's approval ratings in TN are better than AZ among both RV and LVs (46-46), but Blackburn voted to overturn the Affordable Care Act and Bredesen support the ACA, and his local roots as former Governor give him some street cred among many voters that might otherwise vote 'Pub for Senate (Even a cray-cray) against a weaker Democrat without the Gravitas of Bredesen.

4.) Similar to the CNN AZ poll earlier, voters 50k+ are split, although in the case of TN voters <50k are much more heavily Democratic.

It appears that we might have something interesting in both the Senate races in AZ and TN, in that both College Educated, "Upper Middle-Class" (Anglo) voters are continuing their swing towards a DEM candidate at a Federal Level (US PRES '16), combined with a dramatic swing among Anglo "WWC Voters".

I have always had a problem with the conventional media definition of "WWC voters" as well as much of Atlas on this point. Reality is that "WWC Voters" are frequently older retired voters long outside of the work-force, and simply using "race", "education", and "income" as a catchall, neglects the "age" factor, where inherently older voters tend to be "Whiter", "less college educated", and "lower income" (Living on Fixed incomes kinda does that.... ).

5.) Any way you look at again we're starting to see some real LV screens that show logical and reasonable models as to the *WHY* we might well be looking at a massive swing even in an off-year election, where many traditional base Democratic Voters tend to turn out in much lower numbers....


Title: Re: TN-SSRS: Bredesen +5
Post by: auburntiger on September 18, 2018, 03:00:47 PM
Just for reference, I took a look at the 2006 polls for this race last time there was a Dem wave year....similar matchups with similar approval ratings. As late as 10/1/06 there were two polls showing Dems +5 at 50/45; this is shaping up to be just like it. Since then, the state has gotten twice as red

Blackburn wins by 2% at the end