Title: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 10, 2018, 09:01:54 AM Stacey Abrams 46%
Brian Kemp 46% Undecided 7% https://drive.google.com/file/d/16f1CFRu_nbvIm3ioh16-jPgRJ_GDQaQO/view Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Skye on October 10, 2018, 09:08:46 AM A PPP poll that wasn't conducted for some D Pac? When was the last time we saw one of those?
Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: ON Progressive on October 10, 2018, 09:11:18 AM Sample is Trump +4 JA and 65%white/30% black This seems like a very good result for this kind of sample tbh. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: MT Treasurer on October 10, 2018, 09:20:04 AM Toss-up/likely runoff remains Toss-up/likely runoff.
Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: windjammer on October 10, 2018, 09:27:38 AM Toss-up/likely runoff remains Toss-up/likely runoff. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Sir Mohamed on October 10, 2018, 09:55:24 AM Toss-up/likely runoff remains Toss-up/likely runoff. I wouldn't give a runn-off a higher than 30-35% chance. The two other candidates, a Libertarian and Independent, are very low profile. Don't expect then to get above 1.5% or 2% in the end. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: ProgressiveCanadian on October 10, 2018, 10:49:52 AM This race will be tight. Turnout could push Abrams over the edge.
Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Xing on October 10, 2018, 10:53:53 AM Toss-up/likely runoff remains Toss-up/likely runoff. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Podgy the Bear on October 10, 2018, 11:05:43 AM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Got to hope for this out of the woodwork vote that I keep hearing about which would materialize in November and put her over the top.
Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: psychprofessor on October 10, 2018, 11:09:41 AM tilt D the angry women of atlanta put Abrams over the top on E Day
Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 10, 2018, 11:20:19 AM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Yellowhammer on October 10, 2018, 11:23:07 AM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. Republican trailer park hicks in Haralson County most likely won't show up on a poll as well. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 10, 2018, 11:36:42 AM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Podgy the Bear on October 10, 2018, 12:37:18 PM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. I would hope that Abrams is targeting these voters as well--and if so, the message needs to be specifically on the health care issue. Haralson County (about 50 miles west of Atlanta) is not wealthy at all-30000 people and one 25 bed hospital. And as Paulite notes, those "Republican trailer park hicks" are there in droves and they lack insurance and cannot qualify for Medicaid with the current state standards. In my opinion, the health care issue gives her a fighting chance in these areas. This is an issue that is crossing all ethnic (and even income) barriers. Haralson went for Trump by a 71 point margin. Abrams can make serious inroads here and rural areas throughout west and south Georgia by reducing this margin by about 15 points or so. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: 😥 on October 10, 2018, 12:47:46 PM Toss-up/likely runoff remains Toss-up/likely runoff. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 10, 2018, 01:26:41 PM I would hope that Abrams is targeting these voters as well--and if so, the message needs to be specifically on the health care issue. Haralson County (about 50 miles west of Atlanta) is not wealthy at all-30000 people and one 25 bed hospital. And as Paulite notes, those "Republican trailer park hicks" are there in droves and they lack insurance and cannot qualify for Medicaid with the current state standards. This (https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/rural-georgians-want-medicaid-but-theyre-divided-on-stacey-abrams-the-candidate-who-wants-to-expand-it) article talks to several voters who need Medicaid Expansion to survive and all are voting for Kemp. At some point, you have to move on to people who are going to listen to your message without pushing back with conspiracy theories and Alt-right memes. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Podgy the Bear on October 10, 2018, 02:21:52 PM I would hope that Abrams is targeting these voters as well--and if so, the message needs to be specifically on the health care issue. Haralson County (about 50 miles west of Atlanta) is not wealthy at all-30000 people and one 25 bed hospital. And as Paulite notes, those "Republican trailer park hicks" are there in droves and they lack insurance and cannot qualify for Medicaid with the current state standards. This (https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/rural-georgians-want-medicaid-but-theyre-divided-on-stacey-abrams-the-candidate-who-wants-to-expand-it) article talks to several voters who need Medicaid Expansion to survive and all are voting for Kemp. At some point, you have to move on to people who are going to listen to your message without pushing back with conspiracy theories and Alt-right memes. I'm not talking about picking up the whole bunch of these voters but at least try to get the margins down. I've said it before--Obama's electoral strategy was to hit rural Iowa hard, and he brought down the margins from 50 to 20--and he won the state twice. I was under the impression that Abrams was trying to do just that. It may be that they wouldn't vote for her anyway (for certain reasons), but they may vote for the Democrats downticket--notably at the LG or SOS level. Otherwise, we're playing with identity politics--see what a great job that has done for the Democrats over the past few years. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 10, 2018, 02:39:38 PM I would hope that Abrams is targeting these voters as well--and if so, the message needs to be specifically on the health care issue. Haralson County (about 50 miles west of Atlanta) is not wealthy at all-30000 people and one 25 bed hospital. And as Paulite notes, those "Republican trailer park hicks" are there in droves and they lack insurance and cannot qualify for Medicaid with the current state standards. This (https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/rural-georgians-want-medicaid-but-theyre-divided-on-stacey-abrams-the-candidate-who-wants-to-expand-it) article talks to several voters who need Medicaid Expansion to survive and all are voting for Kemp. At some point, you have to move on to people who are going to listen to your message without pushing back with conspiracy theories and Alt-right memes. I'm not talking about picking up the whole bunch of these voters but at least try to get the margins down. I've said it before--Obama's electoral strategy was to hit rural Iowa hard, and he brought down the margins from 50 to 20--and he won the state twice. I was under the impression that Abrams was trying to do just that. It may be that they wouldn't vote for her anyway (for certain reasons), but they may vote for the Democrats downticket--notably at the LG or SOS level. Otherwise, we're playing with identity politics--see what a great job that has done for the Democrats over the past few years. Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: IceSpear on October 10, 2018, 10:20:52 PM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. Didn't Kemp already invigorate the Racist GA Hicks earlier with his ridiculous ads? Title: Re: GA Gov- PPP: Tie Post by: Progressive Pessimist on October 11, 2018, 06:54:32 PM Abrams just can't break out in front, and therefore her chances to win not that great. Secondly, she is chasing voters hard that won't be on polls. Low propensity rural blacks and Spanish-speaking households won't show up on a poll. Didn't Kemp already invigorate the Racist GA Hicks earlier with his ridiculous ads? You mean the one where he fellated an AR-15 or the one where he ran a cow over with his pickup truck and then made brisket out of it? |