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Hilarious HP.

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btw BRTD, if you're a Berniecrat voting GOP will help because if the Democrats lose on November 6 the Hillary wing will lose influence even MORE!

I can also give solid arguments for why

-women
-blacks
-hispanics
-asians
-muslims
-native americans
-young people
-LGBTQIA

-socialists
-communists
-anarchists



should all vote Republican on November 6. However, there's a very important project that I need to attend to right now so just wait around a week for that post.

On second thought, I might be able to argue for the GOP for these groups as well

-feminists
-environmentalists
-animal rights activists
-people with large amounts of student debt

stay tuned

Didn't know who he was until he posted on here, obvious HP.

MEGA FF

I’m just curious if he thinks he’s actually persuading anyone here

I'm new to Atlas, but who knows...maybe I'll get a PM from someone telling me I changed their perspective one of these days. Maybe sooner than I think.

So basically everyone except people who actually vote Republican.

No, because the party is not divided into a "Bernie wing" and "Hillary wing". That wasn't even true in 2016.

How would you divide it then?

Massive FF, an all around great dude, one of my favorites of newer folks to join the forum.

He’s pretty cool. FF.

Cucks vs betas.

@TechTim: Interesting take. Could you elaborate further?

Probable troll

Def a troll and very good at what they do.

Solid FF, progressive haters gonna hate

Unless your argument boils down to "you'll get the sweet release of death", then no.

Blue avatars: "When a Democrat says 'vote Democratic' in every post, it's grating and annoying! People overly bullish and in your face about Democratic chances like Solid are massive HPs."

(opinion of a user who says "vote Republican" in every post, and is overly bullish and in your face about Republican chances) "Great guy! FF! I love him! Best new poster!"

Seems red avatars aren't the only ones with double standards. Seriously, are there any Republicans left who believe in consistency and holding everyone to the same standard? Anyway, about this poster: does this guy have a Russian IP? It wouldn't surprise me if he did.

Not his IP, but there are some details regarding his account that stink of a troll. Combined with his behavior, that was why I said "probable troll."

First thing I checked.  :d

I find the "he says things I don't like! he must be a Russian troll!" posts about him pretty funny tbh.

Its because the things he says are totally crazy. He still has yet to make a coherent argument as to wby socialists should vote Republican besides "heighten the contradictions" bullsh!t.

He's not even remotely the craziest poster on this forum, and certainly not crazy enough to be worth another one of your "Opinion of" posts that is really just an excuse for you to complain about folks you dislike.

HP (hilarious poster)

HP. Annoying troll.

lmao sure.

Anyway, if any account on Atlas is a Russian troll it's him. Yet I still enjoy his posts, though only because they're a good laugh.

The only things about me that have anything to do with Russia are:

-lots of Russian American friends and acquaintances in high school

-a couple close Russian American friends right now, a few fresh-off-the-boat Russian acquaintances I'm on good terms with

-a few Russian American girls I've had flings with, one who is a huge Trump fan as well; one who hates Trump like your average Atlas user and still doesn't believe my political beliefs are sincere; one fresh-off-the-boat Russian girl I almost had a fling with until...well, long and gross story

-I know how to say 'hello,' 'goodbye,' 'yes,' 'no,' 'my friend,' in Russian

-I know how to say "Russia" and "Russian" in German

-I like to make dumb vodka jokes to the Russian people I know in real life

-I like to make dumb Russian hacking and Vladimir Putin jokes to the Russian people I know in real life

-I would like to visit Russia one day in the same fashion I would like to visit pretty much every other place on the planet, many of which I probably won't be able to in my lifetime

Damn that is way more Russian contacts than I was expecting.

SUSPICIOUS!

If he’s russian, he needs to go.  This isnt a place for Russians.

have you been to Brighton Beach, Brooklyn?

Okay, credit where credit is due, I chuckled.

A lot of people I know live there, but I've only been there once.

If I was a Russian spymaster and one of my goons told me that they were spending their shill time on trolling teenagers and invalids on uselectionatlas.com I would immediately order one fresh order of polonium.

What I'm trying to say is, is that America can very easily homegrow idiotic anlaysis and lame trolling.

That's uselectionatlas.ORG, ackchyually.

Indeed. The best products are always Made in the USA.

Ok, so let's take this one at a time.

Women: It's actually very, very easy to argue for this. First of all, we live in a time when false sexual harassment claims are starting to become so commonplace that men in the corporate world and people in general are now more prone to disbelieve them. There is a good chance that women will have less economic opportunities as a result of fewer men willing to employ and mentor them. Voting Republican will help put all that to rest because widespread GOP victories on November 6 will help discourage such claims, because it will make them look like they didn't work, in the same fashion that Kavanaugh's successful appointment makes it look like it won't work. As a result, sexual harassment claims will begin to be taken seriously again.

Of course, that isn't even mentioning the fact that Republicans are better for public safety (benefits women), the economy (benefits women), school choice (benefits women), and aren't supported by the kinds of SJW elements that can hurt women (fat acceptance, resentment against supposed male privilege, etc).

Blacks: It's also very easy to argue for this. Black unemployment is at the lowest it's ever been under Trump and the GOP.  Role models like John James and Kanye West are showing the road to recovery for black families and communities. More Republican victories would also help further delegitimize silly movements like Black Lives Matter, which hurts blacks due to the fact that they peddle resentment against police for doing their jobs and resentment against whites (even liberal whites) because of the dumb concept of 'white privilege.'

Hispanics: Easy. Once illegal immigration dwindles, there will be much less prejudice against Hispanics in general. It's that simple. Also, far fewer Hispanics will be exploited by the Democratic Party. I'll leave it at that.

Asians: The Democratic Party is the party that supports Affirmative Action, which disproportionately hurts Asians.

Side Note: As an Asian, I can't believe I used to be openly supportive of AA even though I knew I was disadvantaged by it. I liked to virtue signal quite a bit back in the day lmao

Muslims: With better national security and less dumb pandering to the idea that Muslims are being incredibly persecuted, there will be much less prejudice against Muslims. The Democratic Party deliberately tries to foster Muslim resentment against white America. I've seen it firsthand over here in NYC. Republican victories would lead to the delegitimization of that strategy, which means Muslims will have much more peaceful lives, with many more successfully integrating into American society, unlike what's happening in western Europe where they're falling into radicalism regardless.

Native Americans: Hmm, the economy is better under the GOP and maybe Native Americans don't like what Elizabeth Warren is doing. That's all I got lmao.

Young People: Simple. Better economy, less encouragement of getting into debt due to majoring in fields that aren't very economically viable, less encouragement of resentful SJW dogmas that only make you more hateful and miserable. Less hate and misery for young people -> Voting GOP is good for young people.

LGBTQIA: Will be kept safer as a result of improved immigration policies. Will benefit from superior economic policies. Also, even the likes of Rick Santorum and George W. Bush aren't nearly as bad towards LGBTQIA as certain demographics the Democrats are unthinkingly allying themselves with.

Socialists, Communists, Anarchists: Support and motivation for these groups are MUCH higher under GOP domination of the country than under the Democratic Party. They are much more likely to increase in number when faced with the likes of Trump than when faced with the likes of Obama.

Feminists: If Trump and the GOP are in power, they can be used as boogeymen, leading to greater amounts of feminist activist activity. Under Obama, they were a bit too focused on all these other non-politician boogeymen, which often ended up backfiring for them. Also, the Democratic Party is proven to be weak and inefficient at actually enacting policies anyway, so why not vote GOP in the meantime until they buff themselves up?

Environmentalists: Honestly I'm not too sure lol. Maybe the same kind of argument as for feminists?

Animal Rights Activists: Ditto

People with large amounts of student debt: Better economy, a party that encourages personal responsibility --> people actually being able to pay their loans one bite at a time, rather than impotently wait for some savior (ala Bernie Sanders) that may never come.

Definitely not a Republican hack, though.

Clearly a troll, so HP.
If he's not a troll- massive HP.
So either way, definitely HP.

Smh I expected better on the last few sections...

Feminists: most 3rd-wave feminists aren't that Machiavellian... I can see why they could secretly vote for Trump in 2016 but not in general or consistently. The only quasi-legit argument I can think of is the Islamophobe one, i.e. "radical Islam is an existential threat to gender equality and sexual liberation as it exists in the Anglophone West. If the status quo continues our safety and liberty will be at risk".

Environmentalists: I agree with Skill and Chance's prediction that a more protectionist GOP will have more environmentalist support, because both groups oppose neoliberal economic policies.

Also, people generally don't vote against the Dems on environmental issues; it has more to do with educational attainment, the urban-rural divide, and the ongoing culture wars, which are manifested in the debate around immigration and PC culture. All this means GOP voters who care about the environment won't be persuaded to vote Dem just because the GOP is anti-science and tolerates climate change denial. We need both major parties competing to find and deliver solutions to CO2 emissions reductions, renewable energy development, and infrastructure overhaul. This can't happen until a critical mass of environmentalist (donors) start supporting the Republican party.

Animal rights activists: the global economy's reliance on transport is detrimental to animal well-being, encourages unethical animal experimentation, leads to the treatment of livestock as commodities, etc. Not too sure on this one either

Student debt: 4-year college is a scam, the Dems are running a pyramid scheme to screw you all over, they're trying to brainwash you into SJWs, etc. This doesn’t help people who already have a lot of student loan debt though


Overall, not a bad job. Your argument that Asians should support the GOP purely due to affirmative action doesn't hold for Asian Americans who aren't NYC working-class Chinese, because the situation with NYC public schools is unique to that community.

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thank you for the feedback. I'll improve my arguments further and do even better at changing the world!

HP, but I actually wish there were more like him in the GOP.

You say it like that?  I say acksh-wooly

Obvious Poe is obvious.

forgot to address this point

I think fhtagn, Sanchez, and everyone else who voted FF do so not because of partisan reasons but because

-I'm a pretty cool guy (I know 'cool' is relative but there are a few people who told me that lol)
-I'm smart (my mom says so and lots of people I know irl tell me that so I guess I am lol)
-I'm cute (of course you can't tell through text but this one time this one girl told me she could feel how cute i was just bc of my texts lol so there ya go)
-I'm someone who gives lots of positive energy lol.
-I'm pretty successful at EVERYTHING I do. That includes posting on Atlas. There are 19 people who voted 'FF' as of this post and I've only been on Atlas since this past summer. You could fill up a schoolbus with that many people! It's one of my most impressive achievements of 2018 so far*

*if the blue wave is stopped on November 6, I'll consider myself to be one of the major forces responsible and I guess that will be may most major achievement of 2018. To any haters out there, think about it. What have *you* done with your life?

The poster needs to mellow out a bit, I think he’ll improve with time in regards to quality posting.

This is a highlight of your posting history.

I hope that over time he finds a new schtick or form of performance art to share with us, before this one becomes so stale that the account runs the risk of becoming a brownfield site.

I am a mod on a Polish FB group around American politics, and we have a dime a dozen persons like NYC Millenial Minority here - they are all so strident, brash and at times, provocative.

they sound like pretty cool guys if you ask me, reminds me that I should visit Poland soon

@Torie: Evolution is something I do, I promise. And I'm not saying I'm a pokemon.

He's only been on here like two months lol.

Also I think this is the most lopsided if these polls. 7 out of 10 voted one way. Has there been any others with that ratio or more

Hate isn't the opposite of love, it's apathy. The fact that 21 + 51 = 72 people care into me is something I view the same way as having a 72 person fan club. And it's growing by the day!

Many of the ones who voted HP probably have a nagging feeling deep inside, that I might be more accurate than they would otherwise like. I like to think they're also secretly grateful for my presence.

Go ahead, man. You can even join the group I mentioned earlier, we had few non-Polish persons here, so that is no problem for an American like you to join and meet these peoples I talked about in my previous post in this thread. PM me if you are interested.

the AI that runs HillGoose made another one with slightly different parameters

Plenty.  Poundingtherock was 90% HP, for example:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=129854.0

Not quite a dumpster fire.

Bad opinions and even worse election predictions, but posting style and content is entertaining enough to be inoffensive and amusing.

I give most people FFs here, in that I think particpation in political discourse is a Freedom Activity.

He's a Soft FF in my book, in that he's willing to go against the grain, and that's good.

A much more annoying, much less great, hackish version of HillGoose, especially his posts in this thread (sorry, HillGoose, for the comparison.)

He’s more of a genuine Republican than the RINOs on this forum.

FF

Thanks Tim I got a lot of respect for you.

Btw, what's your laycount?

Just more white noise at this point.  On ignore.

I unironically believe he's a Russian bot. Or some other sort of paid-or-not troll at least. He's the Atlas version of Jacob Wohl's Twitter posts from hipster coffee shops.

Tick Tock

See these kinds of posts are much more entertaining.

Is this a reference to that Ke$ha song? I think you mispelled it. It's Tik Tok if I recall correctly. I remember the early 2010s pretty clearly.

HP

Kind of a hack IMO

what do you mean 'kind of'

Republican BRTD ;)

Who?

On god before I even saw this reply I had been reading all his posts in the same head voice I have for BRTD. Though this guy come off as annoying and somewhat endearing and not annoying and kind of creepy.

Who is brtd

why are you calling BRTD creepy? That's kinda mean

I voted HP for some reason, but now I wish I could change my vote. You're alright my dude.

too much of a hack, so hp

HP>Massive massive HP

Pretty sure I’ve seen you on Reddit via a throwaway account.

Mega FF

It was actually TiK ToK.

About 75% sure he's a Simfan sock at this point.

No. Simfan was a cuck.

You'll learn in due time.

Who the heck is that?

for real? which juan?

FF, love that guy

"u/nonwhitesdthrowaway" sounds like a handle you would come up with.

This account strikes me as the Atlas equivalent of Jacob Wohl's LA hipster coffee shop denizens

what's with all these Jacob Wohl comparisons. All I know is that he did the same thing to Bobby Three Sticks that the left did to Roy Moore and BK and a bunch of other GOP fellas. Guy owns a hipster coffee shop in Los Angeles too?

@Audrey: what's with the '...'

lol my handles sound even more retarded

Edit: Explanation for making Reaganfan (The Voice of America) the 'Best Atlas User of the Week'

-he is a long time GOP veteran who has been around since the mid 2000s

-it's subtle, but he knows how to make a real impact with his writing style. He comes off as your respected friendly boss with all sorts of life stories who you just have to pay close attention to because of how much value is embedded into every sentence

-'The Voice of America' is an excellent username...it reminds me of what kind of username the Great Modern American Intellectualls -- Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, etc - would have

I refuse to accept your best atlas user of the week. I want nothing to do with you.

FF.

This user is currently ignored.

He is entertaining

One sad strange little man who has my pity.

I don't take him seriously

FF

he isnt really a trumpist but is a troll account.

Respect my man for holding it down in the mean streets of the gayest city in America. Stay safe, young blood.

He's really funny. FF.

HP, but a great source of entertainment

Freedom views, but annoying.

I consider it my duty to impart my wisdom onto others, which can be annoying at times (even for myself) but it would be morally wrong for me to keep it to myself.

Yep, I definitely make a real impact. Got the highest voter turnout in my 'Opinion of' poll as far as I can tell.

Of course nearly 70% of that is people disliking you.

As I said earlier in this thread, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. The people voting HP are people expressing their admiration in slightly different ways.

And the people who go out of their way to claim they're ignoring me are actually doing the same kind of thing. Even if I get totally ignored on Atlas for the rest of eternity I've already made such an impact that it won't matter.

Incredibly annoying troll who has never once contributed anything useful or interesting to the forum.

At least my username isn't 'Cursed Semens'

What the heck is up with that?

Pretty boring and annoying shtick. HP.

That's...not a good thing usually

I know I've won when I get a reply like this.

By the way I only have time on my schedule for charitable acts (which is what my posts on this website are) for only a few days out of every month, so I actually spend most of my time doing lots of other productive things just so you know. I'm also a kidney donor (the person in question is a Trump voter though), donate my hair on a semi-regular basis, am extremely helpful to the elderly in NYC as a volunteer, and go out of my way to make sure the youth in real life who know me regard me as a role model to emulate.

I'll probably be gone for a few weeks but don't worry, maybe some time in the future I'll have even more time to post.

A freedom fighter and living proof that Republicans aren't racist

The kind of guy who goes to Japan for the age of consent laws

That's illegal though.

I don't want to seem racist and ageist but I'm not into that kind of thing.

I mean that’s also because you keep bumping your own thread... Lol.

Anyway. Obvious HP, worse than Sanchez and Fuzzy combined.

FF

Annoying HP

Worthless troll.

Why does this get brought up all the time

Funny guy. FF.

For a 69 year old man, he's knocking it out of the park!  FF!

I'm pretty sure a Fuzzy Sanchez is still an illegal act in 42 states and rightfully so.

Hopefully he'll explain why Trump only barely wins Nebraska.

He won't lose THAT badly, get real

I was referring to his prediction map...

Tedious and uninteresting troll.

Oh, I apologize. I thought you actually thought Trump would lose so badly he would just barely hold Nebraska

I made an impressive amount of artful and masterful posts this year, brought in my good man from Louisiana - Nuke, and then worked with Red Eagle to bring in even more quality users.

All in all I'm really proud of my USElectionAtlas achievements in 2019, and there's only a month and a half left.

What a great year!

edit: my man Nuke corrected me, saying that it's more like two months left! I guess I can achieve even more things before the end of the year

Indeed! Thanks for the mention, by the way.

The only thing that really bothers me about him is the fact that his acting like he is just so much better than anybody else who does not agree with him when this was a forum meant for civil discussion

Translation you act like a self absorbed dick and make really partisan driven predictions just to get a reaction from people. Ie a troll

I prefer the term "agent provocateur"

or rather, "Master Agent Provocateur: First Class"

Civil discussion doesn’t really exist on this forum, and I don’t believe it has since I joined.

This forum used to be very civil. 2014 was a great year for all of us. Trumps rise coincides with a cognitive decline among Atlas Democrats.

Are we just going to ignore the fact that he's now broken the cardinal rule of this board 29 times in this thread alone?

An unfortunate combination of low posting quality, high posting frequency, and unearned confidence.

And what rule would that be? Not that I really care.


I've earned all my confidence, in addition to many other things, because after all I'm not a mooching Democrat who takes other people's hard earned $ to spend on failed programs and harmful nation destroying endeavors.

Incredibly unentertaining and obnoxious poster who makes this forum worse every time he logs on. Unquestionably the worst active user at the moment. Ignoring does not work for a poster who consistently makes bad threads and baits dumb users into quoting him and derailing threads.

Truly can not wait for him to be banned and I don't know why it's taking so long.

It's because blue avatars are hiveminded snowflakes who have no ideology other than "owning than libs". Mods probably just don't want to have to deal with the angry mob of dips**ts crying about censorship or whatever that'll come with banning.

It's more like we have no coherent ideology because we're all different people and not members of a hive mind.

Rather annoying.

Prove that the Dunning-Kruger effect is still a thing.

I feel bad criticizing people who've said nice things about me in the past, but I don't want to be like the idiotic corrupt toerag NYCMM idolizes-- showering praise upon anyone who will return the favor. So I'll come out and say it: He's an obvious troll. I don't mind trolling so long as it's funny, but what he's doing lacks any subtlety or nuance whatsoever. It needs to stop.

I hope that the left-wingers of Atlas, even if we have our disagreements fairly often, can make the distinction between the genuinely intelligent right-wingers on here and these obscene levels of unclever hackery. And I will try to do better in the future at calling out those on the right for this kind of behavior before it gets this bad.

Unfortunately, Atlas wouldn't 'get it' if I was subtle, so I figured "Why not be as obvious as possible?"

by the way The Don is smart, the least corrupt POTUS we've had since Jimmy Carter, and not a doerag

edit: also there are many posters who would want you banned alongside me

Realize what the #RealThreat is

Fascinatingly bad. It's truly like being being that one judge in Billy Madison having to hear Billy Madison say that thing, and constantly giving that infamous remark over and over and over again.

If he decided to make a movie, I'd be very interested in watching the final product at least once.

Funnily enough, making a movie *is* an item on my bucket list. Sadly lots of things aren't getting the time and attention they need because I love posting on this site.

I have faith that the majority of red avs on here understand that your posts are not representative of the Atlas right, whereas my posts are motivated by a sincere and heartfelt belief that democracy is dumb and super lame.

Oh, they can make the distinction.

That line you're referring to is like the one good thing Adam Sandler has ever contributed to society.

Yeah, THAT'S where the problem started. ::)

Not really. From my experience (admittedly from several years ago now), to their credit mods genuinely care more about actual censorship and permenantly banning anyone who isn't salvagable than they care about any widespread outcry. I'm not saying they're deaf (usually) to poster opinion, but hey, they aren't elected, so they get to make decisions as they best see fit unless they really screw up horrendously (Inks, Beet,) or retire. It's kind of like being a federal judge. ;D

The real sources of delay don't have to do with ideology, directly. There is a fair bit of whataboutism by mods defending controversial poster x on their side of the ideological divide by arguing posters y and z on the other side of the divide are just as bad and yet not moderated/considered for banning, etc. Even more than that, though, is the modadmin (multiple, not just Muon) have treated almost every banning as a decision between "one more warning" vs. a permaban. There's starting to be a change I'm glad to see with more extensive use of varying degrees of temp bans. Long overdue.

Also, Muon among others have been astonishingly delayed in not bringing the banhammer down on temp banned individuals who return on probation but are just as great an ass as ever. (e.g. Krazen, Higgins, and I'm sure eventually NYCMM).

He doesn't talk like a real person.

The fact that he is bumping this very thread to ensure we all talk about him is really indicative of his crippling addiction to attention. It's not about Trump or Populism or Identity Politics for this guy: it's about ensuring that all discussion revolves around himself. The closest comparison I can think of in recent years is Libertas, who also insisted on derailing all conversations around his own stylized persona. And of course, Libby was a libertarian turned beniecrat, so it's not like the widespread dislike of NYCMM is purely due to triggered leftists hating free speech.

At least Libertas was ing hilarious.

It gave you guys a reason to let your fascism/racism/sexism out, just be honest! As we valiantly did in WWII we need to do it again now to stamp out the rot.

Nobody whose "opinion of" thread is seven pages long and has been running for over a year could possibly be a good person. HP.

Ironically, if you knew the political beliefs and values of the typical American on the Normandy beach, you'd be calling them a Nazi too.

MasterJedi would piss his pants on Normandy Beach.

No one wants to ban John Dule ::)

thnx bby

"No coherent ideology" doesn't mean "not the same ideology." It means your ideologies are often based on "triggering liberals" and have very little basis in your own moral beliefs, better outcomes, or anything actually grounded in reality.

This might very well be the longest opinion of thread I have ever seen here

That's what he wants.

What? Because some guys born in the 1920's, many of whom were New Dealers, had strong aversions to homosexuality and (mostly) integration? Horsesh**t and a half

Wait... are you saying that those GIs didn't have beliefs that would be abhorrent to the modern left that is attempting to co-opt their image, or are you saying that the modern left would be tolerant of their beliefs nonetheless? Because neither of those things are true.

I'm saying that about 98 + percent of leftists understand that the same way we honor the union troops who defeated slavery and secession even though oh, because it was the 1860s, the vast majority held abhorrent views about blacks - - with the occasional exception hopes like Colonel Robert Shaw - - and the concept of condoning homosexuality was unfathomable, leftists today hardly hold the views of homosexuality and interracial relations against anti-fascist new dealers who were born a hundred years ago.

If You really believe leftists don't honor and Revere the troops who fought fascism, including the Republicans, just because their jaws would have dropped open if one suggested legalizing gay marriage in the 1940s, then you are woefully and grossly misinformed.

Modern progressives have an abysmal track record of judging historical figures by the context that they lived in. Setting that aside though, I was not arguing that leftists don't respect the troops. I was arguing that, if a modern progressive had a political conversation with the average D-Day veteran (without knowing who they were), they'd probably call that person a "fascist." The word "fascist" has gradually been overused to the point that it has become synonymous with "someone who disagrees with me," as MasterJedi demonstrated in this comment chain. If Atlas Republicans (who are generally more moderate than the average Republican IRL) are "fascists" for their beliefs, then the D-Day GIs are "fascists" for theirs. It cuts both ways.

I think if a modern Progressive had a conversation with a 100 some year old D-Day veteran, Damn Few would consider him a fascist. Frankly, outside of some social issues such as abortion, homosexuality, and race relations, their views on government probably wouldn't be that different from the 1940s, and they could have been just as liberal as a progressive Democrat today.

Frankly, I think 98% of such modern progressives, if this D-Day veterans views on Race ore gaze hadn't progressed since the 1940s, and they made it clear during the conversation, the progressives would likely shrug of themselves and think, what are you going to do? The guys over a hundred!

And then say thank you for your service.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say here. Many World War II veterans had strongly anti-fascist New Deal views at the time, and likewise many of them, all being about a hundred years old or more at this point, obviously have retrograde views about gays and race relations. What's the mystery?

This portion of your post directly contradicts itself. The issues you just listed here are more than enough to anger the typical progressive-- who cares if they're for New Deal policies? Is that really the metric you're setting for whether or not someone should be called a "fascist?" You're seriously telling me that if a Bernie supporter ran into a twentysomething army recruit who was pro-welfare and pro-segregation, they wouldn't focus their attention on the latter point? Heck, if modern leftists are so conciliatory towards those with opposing views, why did someone just invoke D-Day on the previous page and imply that various right-wing posters on this site are Nazis? Your reasoning here lacks any relationship to reality whatsoever.

Wasnt Libertas banned in 2010: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=128848.0


Did he create socks in the future