Title: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Gass3268 on October 24, 2018, 04:01:32 PM Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Co-Chair Bagel23 on October 24, 2018, 04:02:08 PM Lean R
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 24, 2018, 04:03:40 PM Leans Runoff, which helps Kemp a bit.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: henster on October 24, 2018, 04:04:13 PM Kemp is not going to get 11% of the black vote.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on October 24, 2018, 04:04:31 PM Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 24, 2018, 04:05:00 PM Kemp is not going to get 11% of the black vote. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Zaybay on October 24, 2018, 04:06:27 PM looks like a runoff, but I cannot draw a conclusion from there. In fact, it just looks like it will be a bigger tossup for the runoff.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: new_patomic on October 24, 2018, 04:06:31 PM Kemp is not going to get 11% of the black vote. These are toss up numbers though given the hard inelastic republican tilt of Georgia, I'd say tilt-r. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Rookie Yinzer on October 24, 2018, 04:06:51 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on October 24, 2018, 04:08:41 PM looks like a runoff, but I cannot draw a conclusion from there. In fact, it just looks like it will be a bigger tossup for the runoff. VT, is gonna be technically a runoff, too. Due to the fact, if Scott doesn't reach 50% and Democratic controlled legislature will install the Democratic Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 24, 2018, 04:10:04 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash. It's nice to see her breaking 40% with non-college and 60 and up, though. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: henster on October 24, 2018, 04:12:12 PM She's getting 31% of white voters here only reason she's trailing is the wonky black vote #'s.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Aurelio21 on October 24, 2018, 04:12:31 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash. This makes perfectly sense as Marist estimates the effect of Mr Kemp's voter suppression tactics (Perfect match applied to minority voters, discarding VBM, purging the rolls of minority voters). Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 24, 2018, 04:13:52 PM She's getting 31% of white voters here only reason she's trailing is the wonky black vote #'s. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Person Man on October 24, 2018, 04:14:08 PM What was the last one at?
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Zaybay on October 24, 2018, 04:16:52 PM Looks like Marist/NBC expected y'all's criticism:
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Skye on October 24, 2018, 04:37:38 PM It's a tossup. But I'd say it leans towards a runoff, so who knows after that.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Scottholes 2.0 on October 24, 2018, 04:39:42 PM It's amazing how red Georgia (and some other southern states) still is despite being very diverse. Voter suppression is alive and well in that state.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Xing on October 24, 2018, 06:00:03 PM Right now, it's definitely looking like there will be a runoff, and I'm guessing that it'll be a nailbiter for Kemp, but Abrams still has a chance.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 24, 2018, 06:49:47 PM This could very well end up being the IL-GOV 2014 of the cycle. The dominant party in the state leads in most of the polls, but the polls fail to capture the demographics in favor of the out-party (in Rauner's case, it was moderate collar county voters who came home to their ancestral party; in Abrams' case, it's suburban rebels against Trump, as well as minority and youth voters who normally don't vote in mid-terms, or even any election at all).
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Senator Incitatus on October 24, 2018, 06:52:27 PM Lean/Likely Runoff, Likely R
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Progressive Pessimist on October 24, 2018, 08:03:14 PM Right now, it's definitely looking like there will be a runoff, and I'm guessing that it'll be a nailbiter for Kemp, but Abrams still has a chance. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Adam Griffin on October 24, 2018, 09:18:42 PM As usual, don't trust or read into crosstabs too much.
Shift those elements to where they should be and the top-lines are basically the same, however. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: junior chįmp on October 24, 2018, 10:42:48 PM I think Mein Kemp will lose due to pollsters underestimating minority turnout on election day
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: IceSpear on October 25, 2018, 08:29:54 AM Stop polling Georgia. We know it's just going to be a tie or Kemp +1-2 every time.
Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 25, 2018, 08:30:25 AM Stop polling Georgia. We know it's just going to be a tie or Kemp +1-2 every time. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Sir Mohamed on October 25, 2018, 08:35:39 AM Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Badger on October 25, 2018, 07:24:52 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash. It's nice to see her breaking 40% with non-college and 60 and up, though. But isn't it possible if the poll is off by showing a higher than likely level of support among blacks for kemp, that it could likewise be wrong by showing a higher level of support among whites and Youth for Abrams than really exists? Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: libertpaulian on October 25, 2018, 07:27:33 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash. It's nice to see her breaking 40% with non-college and 60 and up, though. But isn't it possible if the poll is off by showing a higher than likely level of support among blacks for kemp, that it could likewise be wrong by showing a higher level of support among whites and Youth for Abrams than really exists? Perhaps other Georgia posters can enlighten me on that. Title: Re: GA-NBC/Marist: Kemp +1 Post by: Badger on October 25, 2018, 07:39:18 PM Blacks only made up 25% of the LIKELY VOTERS polled for this and Abrams will easily clear 90% of the black vote. Trash. It's nice to see her breaking 40% with non-college and 60 and up, though. But isn't it possible if the poll is off by showing a higher than likely level of support among blacks for kemp, that it could likewise be wrong by showing a higher level of support among whites and Youth for Abrams than really exists? Perhaps other Georgia posters can enlighten me on that. All true. However, I think the most important words in your post are "the Georgia that is to come. I fear that the state just isn't there yet. Though if for no other reason camps Shameless voter suppression tactics and, above all, it's patently unfair 50% + 1 runoff rule, is going to stop her. |