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Title: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: LimoLiberal on November 04, 2018, 11:12:10 PM
https://cola.unh.edu/sites/cola.unh.edu/files/research_publications/gsp2018_fall_nhelec110418.pdf

Sununu (R) - 46
Kelly (D) - 46

GET IN HERE, INDYREP


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Perlen vor den Schweinen on November 04, 2018, 11:13:01 PM
The commencement of the year of the angry white woman.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: The Other Castro on November 04, 2018, 11:14:43 PM
Wow


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2018, 11:15:15 PM
I swear if indyrep ends up being right this world is a very screwed up place


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: junior chįmp on November 04, 2018, 11:16:08 PM
Time load up on Predictit shares


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: AudmanOut on November 04, 2018, 11:16:24 PM


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Kodak on November 04, 2018, 11:17:40 PM


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: MycroftCZ on November 04, 2018, 11:19:45 PM
I've had a hunch for months that if the blue wave was big enough, Sununu and Scott might go down or at least be in tight races. Seems like I was at least half right.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 04, 2018, 11:19:58 PM
Gov elect Kelly, and don't sleep on VT, either, it could go to state assembly at Scott 49/44


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on November 04, 2018, 11:20:07 PM
I swear if indyrep ends up being right this world is a very screwed up place

NH just doesn't like electing men in statewide general elections, when there is a female option. This isn't even a "we like Democrats" thing - see Ayotte trouncing Hodes in 2010.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: free my dawg on November 04, 2018, 11:21:55 PM
Oh my god.

This can't be real. I mean it's UNH, but usually they're dead-on on the last poll of the race.

I can't believe this is happening.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Gass3268 on November 04, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
UNH is typically not the best pollster, but still "I WANT TO BELIEVE!"


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: scutosaurus on November 04, 2018, 11:23:40 PM
New Hampshire returning to its sexist roots.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Yellowhammer on November 04, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on November 04, 2018, 11:25:29 PM
#Inb4IndyRep

Yes, the angry NH Women will do it!


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Virginiá on November 04, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Ostern +11

:|


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 04, 2018, 11:26:34 PM
Just like WI, Cook and Sabato missed the momentum of the Democrat. They should have changed the rating, other than OK


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: pops on November 04, 2018, 11:29:27 PM
Atlas

poll shows Trump +1 in Pennsylvania: LOL LIKE THAT WILL EVER HAPPEN OUTLIER OUTLIER OUTLIER

poll shows tied New Hampshire Governor race: GUARANTEED DEMOCRAT WIN


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: OneJ on November 04, 2018, 11:29:58 PM
Oh please let this happen.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: _ on November 04, 2018, 11:31:11 PM
Oh kek here we go


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: IceSpear on November 04, 2018, 11:33:06 PM
LMAO!

But Politician and the rest of Atlas told me that Sununu was guaranteed to win by 25+ points because of MUH April polls!

You all need to bow down and kiss MT Treasurer's ring if Kelly ends up winning.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: IceSpear on November 04, 2018, 11:35:04 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Yes, they're a junk pollster. But Atlas had zero problem with them when they had Sununu up double digits, so it's not fair to dismiss them now. ;)


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: free my dawg on November 04, 2018, 11:35:15 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Ostern +11

:|

Governor (since 2012):
Hassan +4 (+4)
Hassan +9 (+12)

Senate (since 2012):
Shaheen +2 (+3)
Hassan +4 (0)

It's actually happening


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 04, 2018, 11:38:15 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Ostern +11

:|

Governor (since 2012):
Hassan +4 (+4)
Hassan +9 (+12)

Senate (since 2012):
Shaheen +2 (+3)
Hassan +4 (0)

It's actually happening
they had Van Ostern up by 11 though


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: DINGO Joe on November 04, 2018, 11:38:21 PM
My kingdom for a "It's Happening" Gif with an angry woman superimposed over whathisface.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: junior chįmp on November 04, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Ostern +11

:|

Governor (since 2012):
Hassan +4 (+4)
Hassan +9 (+12)

Senate (since 2012):
Shaheen +2 (+3)
Hassan +4 (0)

It's actually happening

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Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: MT Treasurer on November 04, 2018, 11:42:13 PM
Quote
Female:

54% Kelly (D)
38% Sununu (R)

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Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Ebsy on November 04, 2018, 11:43:36 PM
Big if true.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: IceSpear on November 04, 2018, 11:44:17 PM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?

Ostern +11

:|

Governor (since 2012):
Hassan +4 (+4)
Hassan +9 (+12)

Senate (since 2012):
Shaheen +2 (+3)
Hassan +4 (0)

It's actually happening
they had Van Ostern up by 11 though

ARG: Sununu +5 (had Sununu +4 in 2016)
Atlas: JUNK POLL! ARG sucks even though their last poll was only 2 points off! I'll believe UNH instead which still has Sununu up double digits even though they had Van Ostern up 11 and were 13 points off!

UNH: Tie (had Van Ostern up 11)
Atlas: JUNK POLL! UNH sucks! They had Van Ostern up 11!


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Dr. Arch on November 04, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
IndyRep might be the god of NH politics if this actually happens.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Former Dean Phillips Supporters for Haley (I guess???!?) 👁️ on November 04, 2018, 11:51:59 PM
Live look at Hollis, New Hampshire:

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Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 04, 2018, 11:53:11 PM
I think Sununus time is over, thanks to Shaheen who defeated John Sununu handily.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Xing on November 05, 2018, 12:02:29 AM
Wow, congrats, MT Treasurer! Sununu could still win, but the trendline isn't good for him. Not sure what to predict for this race now, it probably has to be considered a Toss-Up, since we really don't have any other very recent polls to go by.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Devout Centrist on November 05, 2018, 12:05:14 AM
Atlas right now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWbIoIR04c)


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: ON Progressive on November 05, 2018, 12:10:53 AM
I will never doubt indyrep on NH ever again if Kelly actually wins this, and she actually just might.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Terry the Fat Shark on November 05, 2018, 12:11:57 AM
If Sununu wins during a dem wave you cannot call NH a Safe D state.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Virginiá on November 05, 2018, 12:13:21 AM
If Sununu wins during a dem wave you cannot call NH a Safe D state.

That's not how this works. He can and will no matter how much you beg him to stop.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Virginiá on November 05, 2018, 12:15:27 AM
Also that's not exactly true because Hogan and Baker are on track to win and win bigly in what are unambiguously safe blue states. MA is more understandable given its history of electing Republicans as govs but Maryland has no such excuse. They are still safe D states in every other regard though.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: KingSweden on November 05, 2018, 12:22:34 AM
If Kelly wins IndyRep will be absolutely insufferable in his gloating and he will have 100% have earned it


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Ye We Can on November 05, 2018, 12:26:33 AM
Ha, Safe R


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: henster on November 05, 2018, 01:11:57 AM
If Kelly can pull off a win in NH then Dems could've absolutely taken MD & MA even VT with better candidates.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 05, 2018, 01:22:19 AM
Sue Minter and Rashurn Baker could have won. Jealous was too liberal.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: MT Treasurer on November 05, 2018, 02:01:35 AM
If Kelly can pull off a win in NH then Dems could've absolutely taken MD & MA even VT with better candidates.

NH is, let’s just say, a special case.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: adrac on November 05, 2018, 02:15:07 AM
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Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on November 05, 2018, 02:32:09 AM
It's UNH. Tomorrow they may release a poll which shows Sununu up by double digits.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Skye on November 05, 2018, 03:27:26 AM
I'm gonna stick to my lean R rating, but I'm kinda angry we didn't get more polling for this race.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Strudelcutie4427 on November 05, 2018, 07:22:29 AM
UNH is crap but if this happens, I’m moving right to TX after I graduate next month


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Politician on November 05, 2018, 07:24:10 AM
N U T


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 05, 2018, 07:41:15 AM
UNH is crap but if this happens, I’m moving right to TX after I graduate next month

Ayotte barely lost to Hassan, so races tighten as election nears in NH


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 05, 2018, 07:44:54 AM
It's a blue wave, the 272 freiwal states Iowa, NH, IL, WI, CO, NM,vNV, WI and MI, all except MD and VT are leaning Dem😀


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: NHI on November 05, 2018, 07:55:21 AM
Wow. Didn't see this poll. I'm a little skeptical since it's UNH poll. Last time Van Ostern was up and Sununu won by two, but this is interesting... She could pull it off tomorrow night


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Free Bird on November 05, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
Isn't the same pollster that had Van Ostern up by double digits at this time in 2016?


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 05, 2018, 08:37:19 AM
NH is part of the 272 freiwal that Dems have solidified. If Sue Minter and Rashurn Baker were on the ballot, they could of won as well


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: FalloutBoy97 on November 05, 2018, 10:53:46 AM
UNH is crap but if this happens, I’m moving right to TX after I graduate next month

...you want to be represented in the Senate by Beto?


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: RINO Tom on November 05, 2018, 11:18:35 AM

LOL, this would certainly be your biggest coup yet. ;)


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: free my dawg on November 05, 2018, 02:24:47 PM
Oh yes, I forgot:

2010: Lynch +9 (Lynch +8)


Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Politician on November 05, 2018, 03:36:33 PM
If Kelly can pull off a win in NH then Dems could've absolutely taken MD & MA even VT with better candidates.
Baker would not lose regardless of how big the wave is.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Tartarus Sauce on November 05, 2018, 03:50:49 PM
If Kelly pulls this off, IndyRep is officially our god of New Hampshire elections. He'll need to keep his Democratic New Hampshire avatar to transcend into his newly divine form.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: psychprofessor on November 05, 2018, 04:21:47 PM
From the ground it sounds like this is a D surge...


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Ye We Can on November 05, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
They waaaaaay oversampled Democrats in this poll compared to their earlier ones as well.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on November 05, 2018, 07:04:58 PM
I hope Chris ends up having to look for a Sununew job. Please let us have two Governor Kellys- Laura and Molly!


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: NHI on November 05, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
Dems oversampled, but his deficit among women voters is quite large...

I honestly don't know how to read this one. Part of me thinks he wins -- narrowly but I can also see her squeaking by.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: free my dawg on November 05, 2018, 07:35:13 PM
Dems oversampled, but his deficit among women voters is quite large...

I honestly don't know how to read this one. Part of me thinks he wins -- narrowly but I can also see her squeaking by.

Party ID and registration are two dramatically different things. Registration is still largely independent, and it's only natural some of those indies "magically" identify with wherever the winds of change blow.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: NHI on November 05, 2018, 07:37:33 PM
Dems oversampled, but his deficit among women voters is quite large...

I honestly don't know how to read this one. Part of me thinks he wins -- narrowly but I can also see her squeaking by.

Party ID and registration are two dramatically different things. Registration is still largely independent.

True. Where do you put the race?



Title: Re: NH-UNH: TIED RACE!!!!!
Post by: Devout Centrist on November 05, 2018, 08:42:40 PM
UNH is crap but if this happens, I’m moving right to TX after I graduate next month
Hopefully you’re greeted by Senator Beto


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: bagelman on November 05, 2018, 10:27:46 PM
I've changed it from Safe to Likely R.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on November 06, 2018, 10:43:19 AM
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Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 07, 2018, 06:03:56 AM
Congrats Gov Sununu=D


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Politician on November 07, 2018, 03:35:16 PM
Junk poll!


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: MT Treasurer on November 07, 2018, 05:38:54 PM
Yes, I was completely wrong about this race, and there’s no way to spin this. The only thing I will say is that even though NH is a state that will certainly elect liberal to moderate Republican governors at times, I don’t expect Sununu's success to be replicated at the federal level if he decides to run against Jeanne Shaheen. Senate races are a lot more partisan than gubernatorial elections, and let’s not forget that NH Republicans were wiped off the face of the earth in virtually every other race in the state (they lost both congressional districts in a landslide, lost the Executive Council, the State Senate, and the NH House). It’s hardly a coincidence that Chris Sununu did A LOT worse than Baker, Scott, and even Hogan(!) yesterday despite running in a more competitive state, and it also shows you just how high the Democratic floor in NH is. So while I agree that NH is more winnable for Republicans than CO/NV/VA, I wouldn’t go as far as to rate it a "Toss-up" for 2020. Safe D? Certainly not, but I’d say it’s closer to Lean or maybe Likely D (depending on the environment and the Democratic candidate) than Toss-up.


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on November 07, 2018, 10:55:12 PM
Sununu will lose in 2020, hopefully Pappas runs against him


Title: Re: NH-UNH: Tied race
Post by: NHI on November 07, 2018, 11:34:52 PM
Sununu will lose in 2020, hopefully Pappas runs against him
My guess is he runs for Senate and loses