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Title: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Sir Mohamed on December 19, 2018, 10:08:58 AM
Which prez since TR was the least prepared for the job? I mean in terms of political and personal skills, not political philosophy. It's more of an overall question, not about who held which office for what time, although this plays some role. Leave Trump aside, since it's obvious the dude is not up to the job at all.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Orser67 on December 19, 2018, 11:35:05 AM
Easily Harding. His fellow senators generally regarded him as an amiable dunce, and during his presidential tenure he made a series of bad appointments and was unable to prevent scandals from occurring.

Post-FDR, I would say Carter, Clinton, and George W. Bush were all poorly prepared for the presidency, which is a big part of why I tend to favor members of Congress over governors when it comes to pre-presidential experience.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on December 19, 2018, 02:50:32 PM
Taft, Hoover and Trump who lost Congress and will probably lose reelection.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: President Johnson on December 19, 2018, 03:31:22 PM
Jimmy Carter. Served just one term as governor, had no foreign policy expertise and no relationships on the Hill. Key reasons he was not a really successful president despite being a great person.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸 on December 19, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
Probably Truman, as his rise was so quick, and how he didn't have plans to go very far. I mean, he did serve as vice-president, and FDR's soon death was inevitable, but 11 weeks in was very shocking.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: dw93 on December 19, 2018, 07:28:48 PM
Harding, Hoover, Carter, George W. Bush, Barack Obama.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: brucejoel99 on December 19, 2018, 08:16:01 PM
Harding, Carter


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Peanut on December 19, 2018, 11:25:10 PM
Probably Carter in terms of holding office, though Harding was more inept.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: President Johnson on December 20, 2018, 04:51:32 PM
Probably Truman, as his rise was so quick, and how he didn't have plans to go very far. I mean, he did serve as vice-president, and FDR's soon death was inevitable, but 11 weeks in was very shocking.

Truman was senator for ten years and chaired important committees while being there. He was also 60 years of age with plenty of life experience. He was portrayed as a lightweight when he assumed office, but turned out to be a decisive and bold leader with personal integrity.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: The Mikado on December 20, 2018, 06:43:43 PM
Why are people saying Hoover? Hoover's kind of the reverse: a resume candidate without any natural political instincts. Two term Secretary of Commerce, head of the Food Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Food_Administration), and leader of relief efforts after WWI. Hoover's resume was fine.

He was just a terrible, terrible President because he had awful instincts about how to address a problem far bigger than he was.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on December 20, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Why are people saying Hoover? Hoover's kind of the reverse: a resume candidate without any natural political instincts. Two term Secretary of Commerce, head of the Food Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Food_Administration), and leader of relief efforts after WWI. Hoover's resume was fine.

He was just a terrible, terrible President because he had awful instincts about how to address a problem far bigger than he was.

Kind of cliche to say these days, especially given his deplorable 1928 campaign, but Hoover strikes me very much as a right guy, wrong time type of President. The rest of his career seems very admirable.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Peanut on December 20, 2018, 08:58:41 PM
Why are people saying Hoover? Hoover's kind of the reverse: a resume candidate without any natural political instincts. Two term Secretary of Commerce, head of the Food Administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Food_Administration), and leader of relief efforts after WWI. Hoover's resume was fine.

He was just a terrible, terrible President because he had awful instincts about how to address a problem far bigger than he was.

Kind of cliche to say these days, especially given his deplorable 1928 campaign, but Hoover strikes me very much as a right guy, wrong time type of President. The rest of his career seems very admirable.

I agree wholeheartedly. Hoover had the potential to be miles better than Harding and Coolidge (of course not Roosevelt or Truman in my opinion) but 1928 just wasn't the year to be elected President.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Wazza [INACTIVE] on December 30, 2018, 05:28:19 AM
Carter, and....

"I am not fit for this office and should never have been here."
~Warren G. Harding

...Harding


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Mr. Smith on January 05, 2019, 07:20:55 PM
Harding

At least Carter had executive experience.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Kleine Scheiße on January 05, 2019, 07:39:48 PM
Harding, Dubya, and...

...JFK, if we're talking purely based on experience and personal temperament. Granted, he did just fine with the hand he was dealt.


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on January 07, 2019, 12:23:54 AM
Carter


Title: Re: Least prepared prez since 1900 except Trump
Post by: Lechasseur on January 07, 2019, 07:46:52 AM
Harding

For Post WWII presidents, Carter