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Title: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: Tender Branson on January 03, 2019, 05:34:15 am
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jan/03/china-probe-change-4-land-far-side-moon-basin-crater

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It was speculated that the Nazis secretly established a moon base on the dark side, but the Chinese did not encounter any Nazis so far ...


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: Both Sides™ on January 03, 2019, 06:41:43 am
But what about the whalers on the moon?


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: True Federalist on January 03, 2019, 07:38:36 am
Fool! The Nazis would not be on the surface, but underground in their basement. Hitler was Austrian after all.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: Farmlands on January 03, 2019, 08:25:12 pm
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: dead0man on January 03, 2019, 08:44:54 pm
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: True Federalist on January 03, 2019, 11:47:22 pm
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: dead0man on January 03, 2019, 11:57:45 pm
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.
It's good pracitice for Mars and it's much easier to get to Mars from the Moon than from Earth.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: GoTfan on January 04, 2019, 04:15:05 am
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.
It's good pracitice for Mars and it's much easier to get to Mars from the Moon than from Earth.

Getting to Mars isn't the problem. We know how to get to Mars. The problem is getting back.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: dead0man on January 04, 2019, 06:26:22 am
We know how to get back from Mars too, it's up and to the left.  The problem is it's really really far away.  If there is a problem working out a kink, it takes a LONG time to get there.  If there is a problem working out a kink on the moon, it will only take a couple of days to get there.  They figure it will be easier and safer to practice on the moon.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: Both Sides™ on January 04, 2019, 06:35:38 am
Did they at least locate Alice Kramden's corpse?


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: dead0man on January 04, 2019, 06:41:12 am
Did they at least locate Alice Kramden's corpse?
why would it be there?  He never hit her, never even came close.  She (like most wives then and now) ran the house, he was impotently showing his frustration with the situation, but would never dare actually do anything about it.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: Tender Branson on January 04, 2019, 06:41:30 am
Fool! The Nazis would not be on the surface, but underground in their basement. Hitler was Austrian after all.

Time for the Chinese to start drilling up there to uncover all the underground Nazi secrets ...

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Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: True Federalist on January 04, 2019, 07:10:13 am
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.
It's good pracitice for Mars and it's much easier to get to Mars from the Moon than from Earth.

Getting to Mars isn't the problem. We know how to get to Mars. The problem is getting back.

That's exploration not colonization. If we ever send men to Mars, it should be to start a permanent colony of people who will live there the rest of their lives.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: GoTfan on January 05, 2019, 02:31:27 am
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.
It's good pracitice for Mars and it's much easier to get to Mars from the Moon than from Earth.

Getting to Mars isn't the problem. We know how to get to Mars. The problem is getting back.

That's exploration not colonization. If we ever send men to Mars, it should be to start a permanent colony of people who will live there the rest of their lives.

You have to explore before you colonise.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: True Federalist on January 05, 2019, 02:47:55 am
Please let this lead to a renewal of interest in competition via a space race, NASA's budget is ridiculous and only keeps getting smaller. There are so many potential resources out there, not to speak of all the undiscovered knowledge.
We just announced we're going back to the moon.  link (https://www.space.com/41691-nasa-astronauts-return-moon-budget.html)
And how many different announcements does that make over the last few decades?

The problem is that there isn't a good compelling reason to send men instead of machines to explore anywhere in the solar system these days. Anything men can do, machines can do cheaper. The only reason to send men is to colonize, not explore. The only even marginally colonizable world at present is Mars and we don't need to return to Luna in order to plant a colony on Mars.
It's good pracitice for Mars and it's much easier to get to Mars from the Moon than from Earth.

Getting to Mars isn't the problem. We know how to get to Mars. The problem is getting back.

That's exploration not colonization. If we ever send men to Mars, it should be to start a permanent colony of people who will live there the rest of their lives.

You have to explore before you colonise.

And robots can do that for far less cost and no safety concerns.


Title: Re: Chinese probe lands on the dark side of the moon, no Nazis found
Post by: DINGO Joe on January 05, 2019, 02:52:37 pm
Can't we send robots to terraform some place nice before we get there?