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Title: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Tender Branson on January 31, 2019, 03:01:01 PM
The Eurovision Song Contest 2019 will be the 64th edition of the Eurovision Song Contest. The contest is scheduled to take place in Tel Aviv, Israel, following Israel's victory at the 2018 contest in Lisbon, Portugal with the song "Toy", performed by Netta.

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The contest will be held at Expo Tel Aviv, the city's convention centre; the show will consist of two semi-finals on 14 and 16 May, and the final on 18 May 2019. The contest will take place in Israel for the third time, after 1979 and 1999.

Forty-two countries will take part in the contest, with Bulgaria absent for the first time since 2015.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2019


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Tender Branson on January 31, 2019, 03:14:52 PM
Austria will be represented by 30-year old electropop singer/songwriter PÆNDA this year with the not-yet-released song "Limits":

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Portrait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ckZj6XEAk

Song "Paper-thin":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOScfxdR0Sk

Her sound is not all too bad, but I'm not sure if it is the right stuff for the Song Contest ...


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Pyro on January 31, 2019, 03:55:51 PM
Normally I look forward to Eurovision as a fun, over-the-top little music competition.
This year, I'll be taking part in the boycott unless they choose to relocate.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: dead0man on February 01, 2019, 12:15:12 AM
well.....I was going to come in to make fun of the racists boycotting it, but that would be really awkward now :)


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: America Needs R'hllor on February 01, 2019, 04:58:05 AM
Normally I look forward to Eurovision as a fun, over-the-top little music competition.
This year, I'll be taking part in the boycott unless they choose to relocate.


Would you have a problem with a Eurovision in Russia? Or is it just the Jewish state that can't win a competition fair and square and get a reward because antisemites hate successful Jews?


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on February 01, 2019, 08:12:56 AM
I could maybe see the point in a boycott if the contest were being held in an area outside the 1949-67 boundaries, but this is even inside the 1947 partition boundary.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Pyro on February 01, 2019, 10:15:11 AM
Normally I look forward to Eurovision as a fun, over-the-top little music competition.
This year, I'll be taking part in the boycott unless they choose to relocate.


Would you have a problem with a Eurovision in Russia? Or is it just the Jewish state that can't win a competition fair and square and get a reward because antisemites hate successful Jews?

Yes, absolutely. It shouldn't be held in any state that condones widespread human rights abuses.
I'm not going to address your second question as it's completely asinine.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: America Needs R'hllor on February 01, 2019, 10:23:57 AM
Normally I look forward to Eurovision as a fun, over-the-top little music competition.
This year, I'll be taking part in the boycott unless they choose to relocate.


Would you have a problem with a Eurovision in Russia? Or is it just the Jewish state that can't win a competition fair and square and get a reward because antisemites hate successful Jews?

Yes, absolutely. It shouldn't be held in any state that condones widespread human rights abuses.
I'm not going to address your second question as it's completely asinine.

Oh, what about Belarus then? Serbia? Turkey? How about any sporting event in America, whose airstrikes harm more innocents and who, unlike Israel's army, doesn't warn innocents with flyers telling them to evacuate before airstrikes, an effort which sometimes harms the military goal of killing terrorists who are directly targeting Israeli innocents? For that matter, how about Britain and France and basically any other NATO nation who participate in these strikes?

People like Roger Waters always choose to target the Jewish state for protecting the security of its own citizens. Doesn't matter, though- this movement, indoctrinated by antisemites, is pathetically weak and lacking influence.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Pyro on February 01, 2019, 11:18:08 AM
Normally I look forward to Eurovision as a fun, over-the-top little music competition.
This year, I'll be taking part in the boycott unless they choose to relocate.


Would you have a problem with a Eurovision in Russia? Or is it just the Jewish state that can't win a competition fair and square and get a reward because antisemites hate successful Jews?

Yes, absolutely. It shouldn't be held in any state that condones widespread human rights abuses.
I'm not going to address your second question as it's completely asinine.

Oh, what about Belarus then? Serbia? Turkey? How about any sporting event in America, whose airstrikes harm more innocents and who, unlike Israel's army, doesn't warn innocents with flyers telling them to evacuate before airstrikes, an effort which sometimes harms the military goal of killing terrorists who are directly targeting Israeli innocents? For that matter, how about Britain and France and basically any other NATO nation who participate in these strikes?

People like Roger Waters always choose to target the Jewish state for protecting the security of its own citizens. Doesn't matter, though- this movement, indoctrinated by antisemites, is pathetically weak and lacking influence.

Alright, I understand that it is largely futile to debate Israel with you, however just to make it clear where I stand - Should there be a widespread call to nonviolently resist capitalist imperialist and colonial actions taken by the ruling classes of any county to preserve their hegemony (including the United States) whether it be air/drone strikes or other atrocities, you are damn right I would stand with it. It doesn't matter to me which particular country commits such acts, but I would consider it undeniable that Israel is among this group. In my view, rancid human rights violations should not be validated by holding a massive, celebratory entertainment event in any circumstance.

As an aside, murdering innocents is not a passable offense if you warn them first.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: parochial boy on February 01, 2019, 01:06:37 PM
Anyone taking Eurovision seriously needs to be sent to the Gulag, in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Crumpets on February 05, 2019, 08:55:24 PM
I always root for Moldova, since a Moldovan introduced me to Eurovision and they need every win they can get.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on February 12, 2019, 12:00:21 AM
I heard Madonna is supposed to be invited to perform during the voting period.
A wealthy patron wants to fund her performance, however, the European Broadcasting Union isn't allowed to accept voluntary donations. So, maybe Madonna is going to forbear from charging a fee... (Just kidding!)


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Mike88 on February 15, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
Apparently, this is the favourite to represent Portugal:

Conan Osíris: Telemóveis (Mobile Phones)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWoA-7kF5R4

I have to be honest, at first i though it was just horrible, but, now, it seems a bit catchy...


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 16, 2019, 05:25:22 AM
I honestly had to look up who's running for Germany this year, only to find out that this will be determined on February 22. Haven't heard of any of the seven finalists before too. One of them is a New York-born African-American (at least on her father's side) named Béatrice Thomas, so if she makes it maybe the Americans on this forum will have someone to root for or something...


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Tender Branson on February 16, 2019, 08:10:06 AM
Nice video of our last view performers and our entry this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWvpkq0-K3Q


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on April 13, 2019, 11:33:50 AM
I honestly had to look up who's running for Germany this year, only to find out that this will be determined on February 22. Haven't heard of any of the seven finalists before too. One of them is a New York-born African-American (at least on her father's side) named Béatrice Thomas, so if she makes it maybe the Americans on this forum will have someone to root for or something...

Our entry will be one of the worst ever. It seems like the authors of that "song" wanted to include as many words as possible. A rating of about 40% says it all. 😒 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHCLVsmJda4)


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on April 13, 2019, 11:42:00 AM
I heard Madonna is supposed to be invited to perform during the voting period.
A wealthy patron wants to fund her performance, however, the European Broadcasting Union isn't allowed to accept voluntary donations. So, maybe Madonna is going to forbear from charging a fee... (Just kidding!)

For those interested: It has been confirmed that Madonna will perform one of her old songs and a new one as the interval act during the ESC. The Israeli-Canadian billionaire Sylvan Adams is going to pay her 1.15 million € for her performance.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on May 05, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
In light of the current events in the Gaza Strip, I presume the atmosphere at the ESC will be as bomb-happy as on Ariana Grande's legendary Manchester concert...


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on May 16, 2019, 10:51:18 PM
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Both semi-finals have taken place, and the countries participating in the final are determined as follows:
Besides the six countries who pay for that shit (Germany, the UK, France, Spain, Italy and host Israel), Saturday's finalists are:

Albania
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Greece
Iceland
Malta
Netherlands
North Macedonia
Norway
Russia
San Marino
Serbia
Slovenia
Switzerland
And not forgetting: the European colony Australia. Kate Miller-Heidke was so much rejoicing over her entry into the final that she flew into space:




And as to Switzerland: Let's be honest about that Swiss Bart Simpson on steroids; if he looked like Ed Sheeran, nobody would care two hoots about him.




Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: DavidB. on May 17, 2019, 06:12:10 AM
Voted for Russia, Switzerland, Azerbaijan, Norway and (twice) for Lithuania. Have to admit that it wasn't just vocal qualities on which I based some of these votes (hello Lithuania and Azerbaijan).

Really hoping Duncan wins.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: afleitch on May 17, 2019, 07:46:30 AM
Iceland is pure art. Love it.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: DavidB. on May 17, 2019, 06:33:02 PM
Fun fact: like well-known DJ Afrojack, Dutch Eurovision contestant Duncan Laurence is from PVV and Forum stronghold Spijkenisse, a working-class Rotterdam suburb. The two parties received almost 40% of the vote in the Provincial and Senate election there, compared to just over 21% nationally. Nissewaard is always in the top 10 of best municipalities for the PVV and this time for Forum too. Duncan's name also suggests a socio-economic background that would point towards PVV or Forum support. However, given Duncan's background as an arts student in Tilburg I doubt he himself has such sympathies.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on May 18, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
For those interested: It has been confirmed that Madonna will perform one of her old songs and a new one as the interval act during the ESC. The Israeli-Canadian billionaire Sylvan Adams is going to pay her 1.15 million € for her performance.

Madonna will be performing her best song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fzeNUqQbQ) and a dull new song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhY9J6yYSgU) tonight.
By the way, Madame X, if you read this, you oughta heed and act on Elton John's advice to you (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqtGZ1dhZ88).


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Velasco on May 19, 2019, 10:08:12 AM
Anyone taking Eurovision seriously needs to be sent to the Gulag, in my humble opinion.

Agreed. I never did

Anyway I loathe "Pinkwashing" and "Eurowashing". Israel is unkind

Scorn the ridiculous contest.  Criminal Zionists go to Hell. Viva Iceland. Free Palestine! 💪


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Zinneke on May 19, 2019, 03:21:52 PM
As much as I like our Dutch neighbours and their taste in music, Norway were robbed. Terrible jury votes that did not deserve to be in the bottom half compared to some of the dross at the top. And a really cheesy beat heavy EDM Eurovision song but still well delivered vocals with a nod to their Saami community. THe kind of guilty pleasure we watch Eurovision (mainly drunk) for.

Anyway, I really hope that the Dutch Tourism board hold up on their commitment to promoting tourism outside of Amsterdam by NOT hosting it in the Arena. FFS give it to Rotterdam that has amazing music culture and diversity within or even some peripheral sh**thole like Helmond, and after the inevitable New Kids Turbo introduction, promote young independent Dutch artists (like they and we have done with our last entries). But Eurovision in Amsterdam will just attract that crowd of drunken "ironic Eurovision" people look for a Martin Garrix tune at the start that the Amsterdammers have had enough of during the rest of the year anyway.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Velasco on May 20, 2019, 08:31:26 AM
Israeli host expecting Eurovision 'punishment' for Iceland's Palestinian flag display

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-music-eurovision-israel/israeli-host-expecting-eurovision-punishment-for-icelands-palestinian-flag-display-idUSKCN1SP0G1

Nobody expects punishment for Israel's renewed slaughtering in Gaza, obviously

Opprobium for the Israeli oppressors. Free Palestine!


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: dead0man on May 20, 2019, 08:42:32 AM
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holding up the flag of the place that would murder you for your performance


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Velasco on May 20, 2019, 08:52:23 AM
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holding up the flag of the place that would murder you for your performance

The flag of tge murderous state is blue and white. No cheesy song contesr will wash the ugly face of the Zionist Ogre.

Stop Aparheid


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: dead0man on May 20, 2019, 09:02:29 AM
Yes, we get it, you won't rest until someone else murders every single Jew in the Middle East that won't submit.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Velasco on May 20, 2019, 09:21:00 AM
Yes, we get it, you won't rest until someone else murders every single Jew in the Middle East that won't submit.

Please stop arguing pointlessly. The anti-semitic strawman is dumb. Realize the widespread criticism of the Israeli crimes is unrelated to your claim. The problem with you is the lack of reasons. When arguments fail and reality shows that one side is wrong, insults or false accusations are usual resorts. For instance, everybody condemning rhe criminal Israeli government wants that every Jew in the world gets murdered. This is obviously and ridiculously false. Furthermore, it's slanderous and offensive.

Free Palestine!


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: dead0man on May 20, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
Yes, we get it, you won't rest until someone else murders every single Jew in the Middle East that won't submit.

Please stop arguing pointlessly. The anti-semitic strawman is dumb. Realize the widespread criticism of the Israeli crimes is unrelated to your claim. The problem with you is the lack of reasons. When arguments fail and reality shows that one side is wrong, insults or false accusations are usual resorts. For instance, everybody condemning rhe criminal Israeli government wants that every Jew in the world gets murdered. This is obviously and rificulously false. Furthermore, it's slanderous and offensive.

Free Palestine!
Who is arguing?  I just jumped to the end because we've been down this road and have seen each other go down this road that I know there is no point.  You've heard all the arguments, so have I.  I ain't changing your mind anymore than you're changing mine.  Nobody reading this would even get anything out of it.

So go back to posting your "free Palestine!" garbage and I'll keep pointing out that the people holding the sign wouldn't last 10 minutes in Gaza or Hebron.


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Velasco on May 20, 2019, 10:01:22 AM


So go back to posting your "free Palestine!" garbage and I'll keep pointing out that the people holding the sign wouldn't last 10 minutes in Gaza or Hebron.

You are trying to insult me, but this is too dumb to be considered an outrage. However, you are insulting Palestinians and this is more serious. I'll tell you again: the lack of good reasons does not entitle you to anything. You are free to side with murderers and oppressors (there you go with your consciousness), but you lack the moral and the intellectual entitlement to offend the people under oppression. As long as I have to suffer silly posts, I'll continue saying the Israeli government is criminal and Palestinians deserve to be free.

Stop Apartheid. Free Palestine!


Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on May 20, 2019, 08:23:02 PM
Madonna made a similar statement, albeit more subtile, but still violating the ESC's rules of being a non-political event.

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Bay the way, Israeli security personnel tried to confiscate the Icelandic corpus delicti - in vain... 😁



Title: Re: Eurovision Song Contest 2019 - Tel Aviv, Israel.
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on May 20, 2019, 08:51:55 PM
Let's not forget the gist of this topic:

Congratulations to Duncan Laurence on winning the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 with his ballad "Arcade" and thus bringing the ESC to the Netherlands for the fifth time and after 44 years again.

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