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Title: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 08, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qyx6eDkrmw

Wow! I have never seen such a stunning interview live. Professor Hockett appears to have a very precise understanding of politics and rhetoric.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Dr. Arch on February 08, 2019, 11:05:02 PM
Was it with FACTS and LOGIC!?


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Cory on February 08, 2019, 11:15:05 PM
Ugh the Youtube comments, it;s like they literally didn't hear a single word the Professor said and just make jokes about his hair.



Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Big Abraham on February 08, 2019, 11:18:03 PM
The word "destroyed" has been completely ruined for me by Shapiro, and as a result I won't be able take this title or the video seriously now


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on February 08, 2019, 11:30:25 PM
Ugh the Youtube comments, it;s like they literally didn't hear a single word the Professor said and just make jokes about his hair.



Well it was uploaded by Fox News, a different channel would probably get better comments.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Hindsight was 2020 on February 09, 2019, 12:28:39 AM
Ugh the Youtube comments, it;s like they literally didn't hear a single word the Professor said and just make jokes about his hair.


Well it’s Tucker Carlson fans what type of bar are you setting


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: TJ in Oregon on February 09, 2019, 12:39:55 AM
Clickbait title aside, that was one of the better segments I've seen recently. The two of them actually listened to each other and had a conversation rather than just should talking points. They clearly have to go a long ways to figure out what is actually in the green new deal (and the Prof. included verbally pirouetted over what it means to render fossil fuels obsolete), but if the two of them sat down for a long enough time some real understanding could perhaps take place.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on February 09, 2019, 01:42:07 AM
Here is the FAQ document that, according to mainstream news organizations, AOC sent out about the Green New Deal:
https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5729035-Green-New-Deal-FAQ

It mentions guaranteeing "Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to
work" and also this part that's been getting a lot of attention:
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We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast, but we think we can ramp up renewable manufacturing and power production, retrofit every building in America, build the smart grid, overhaul transportation and agriculture, plant lots of trees and restore our ecosystem to get to net-zero.

Nuclear power, and carbon taxes/cap-and-trade , are presented in this document as somewhere between irrelevant and detrimental.

On the other hand, this isn't the actual resolution, and AOC and Markey have nearly disowned the FAQ document, emphasizing the resolution's lack of specifics.
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Adding to the confusion, Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), the plan's Senate sponsor, told reporters at a press conference near the steps of the Capitol that their nonbinding resolution was technology-neutral, suggesting that nuclear could still be on the table.

"The resolution is silent on any individual technology which can move us toward a solution of this problem. This is a resolution that does not have individual prescriptions in it, so it is silent," Markey told reporters. When asked about the fact sheet and its intent to ban nuclear, he responded, "That is not part of the resolution."
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060120029


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: 136or142 on February 09, 2019, 02:27:47 AM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: HAnnA MArin County on February 09, 2019, 04:18:56 AM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

That's all that employ at the State Propaganda Channel. It's like a job requirement.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: President Johnson on February 09, 2019, 06:26:56 AM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

True.

Even though I'm not a fan of Fox News, I think left of center politicans and experts should more frequently appear on the channel, to at least talk to the other side.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 09, 2019, 06:35:06 PM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

True.

Even though I'm not a fan of Fox News, I think left of center politicans and experts should more frequently appear on the channel, to at least talk to the other side.

They have on at least as many left wingers as any other station has on right wingers.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: 136or142 on February 09, 2019, 06:39:48 PM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

True.

Even though I'm not a fan of Fox News, I think left of center politicans and experts should more frequently appear on the channel, to at least talk to the other side.

They have on at least as many left wingers as any other station has on right wingers.

I highly doubt that.  CNN almost always has at least one right winger/Republican in any panel, and they even have the goofball economist Stephen Moore (of the 'Club for Growth') as their 'senior economic analyst.'

When Fox 'News' has Paul Krugman as their 'senior economic analyst' I'll believe you.  

(Of course, Paul Krugman is credible while Stephen Moore is a snake oil peddler, but that's besides the point.)


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: BlueSwan on February 10, 2019, 05:35:04 AM
Ugh the Youtube comments, it;s like they literally didn't hear a single word the Professor said and just make jokes about his hair.
In all honesty, the hair was a disaster, and this is coming from someone with terrible hair. Looks like a big wig terribly misplaced.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: BlueSwan on February 10, 2019, 05:37:56 AM
OK, the hair is definitely a wig. His real hair is much thinner:

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Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: President Johnson on February 10, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

True.

Even though I'm not a fan of Fox News, I think left of center politicans and experts should more frequently appear on the channel, to at least talk to the other side.

They have on at least as many left wingers as any other station has on right wingers.

I highly doubt that.  CNN almost always has at least one right winger/Republican in any panel, and they even have the goofball economist Stephen Moore (of the 'Club for Growth') as their 'senior economic analyst.'

When Fox 'News' has Paul Krugman as their 'senior economic analyst' I'll believe you.  

(Of course, Paul Krugman is credible while Stephen Moore is a snake oil peddler, but that's besides the point.)

MSNBC also has right-wingers on very frequently. One of them even hosts a major show (Joe Scarborough, who is a massive FF).


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Bismarck on February 10, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
The interview would have been a lot better if Tucker Carlson wasn't a genuine moron.

True.

Even though I'm not a fan of Fox News, I think left of center politicans and experts should more frequently appear on the channel, to at least talk to the other side.

They have on at least as many left wingers as any other station has on right wingers.

I highly doubt that.  CNN almost always has at least one right winger/Republican in any panel, and they even have the goofball economist Stephen Moore (of the 'Club for Growth') as their 'senior economic analyst.'

When Fox 'News' has Paul Krugman as their 'senior economic analyst' I'll believe you.  

(Of course, Paul Krugman is credible while Stephen Moore is a snake oil peddler, but that's besides the point.)

MSNBC also has right-wingers on very frequently. One of them even hosts a major show (Joe Scarborough, who is a massive FF).

I think Fox is horrible but calling Joe Scarborough a right winger is pretty silly. Maybe ten years ago he was. Now he’s an increasingly annoying hack.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Crumpets on February 10, 2019, 02:39:27 PM
MSNBC also has Nicole Wallace, although I'm guessing most Republicans consider her to be basically Maduro these days.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Santander on February 12, 2019, 09:23:22 AM
MSNBC also has Nicole Wallace, although I'm guessing most Republicans consider her to be basically Maduro these days.

Um, Nicolle was just a communications staffer and is not a right-winger, or even a Republican (anymore). Joe was a right-winger before Trump, but he's more anti-Trump than left or right these days. Rick Tyler or maybe Elise Jordan are a better examples of right-wing MSNBC personalities, but they don't have their own shows.


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Insomnian on February 12, 2019, 09:17:07 PM
That professor...was clearly not telling the truth.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/aoc-adviser-falsely-insists-on-tucker-carlson-that-green-new-deal-claim-is-doctored-draws-fire/

I won't say lie, because it seems the professor was merely mistaken (and he admits as such).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-adviser-admits-he-falsely-claimed-green-new-deal-didnt-promise-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work


Title: Re: Tucker Carlson Destroyed By Guest, Professor Robert Hockett
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 13, 2019, 08:01:31 PM
That professor...was clearly not telling the truth.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/aoc-adviser-falsely-insists-on-tucker-carlson-that-green-new-deal-claim-is-doctored-draws-fire/

I won't say lie, because it seems the professor was merely mistaken (and he admits as such).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-adviser-admits-he-falsely-claimed-green-new-deal-didnt-promise-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work

Tucker Carlson made it seem like unlimited and full pay unemployment benefits, which UBI is most certainly not.