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...and why?

Trump because Weld isn't pro-life. 

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

Don't give yourself an aneurysm. Understanding irony and hypocrisy isn't the strong suit of Trump supporters.

You're insinuating that Trump changed parties for political convenience, which clearly isn't true and makes no sense. 

Lean Trump/Toss-up, but I will vote for a conservative challenger if one runs.

Trump. Immigration.

Trump has changed his party four times in the past 20 years.

why do you think he changed parties then?

I think Weld is better overall even though he hasn't got a snowflakes chance in hell of winning. Solid academic credentials, solid political experience, during his tenure as governor he got decent ratings (A's and B's) from the Cato institute's report on fiscal policy, he's not a loudmouth or a populist. I expect him to be non-interventionist leaning due to his time in the Libertarian Party. I do have some reservations about gun control measures he tried to pass in Mass but he has renounced these views.

Trump easily.

Weld, although I wish he was harder on immigration.

Five times if I'm reading Wikipedia correctly.  He's also been a Republican for the last decade, except for a brief stint as an independent eight years ago. 


Because the Democratic party was no longer representative of his views.  If that's not the case, why does he have such fanatical opposition among Democrats? 

the non-hostile answer is:he's good at trolling them, and they're good at reacting

the hostile answer is:they (correctly) think he's a narcissistic moron, who is at best, embarrassing us like no one in history and at worst, is leading us to Armageddon

the truth is probably somewhere in between

Trump

You can’t make this sh**t up, Trump supporters really do create their own reality.

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Hmmmm.

Don the Con could have been the Democratic nominee in 2004 or 2008 lmao.

What I am trying to say is that Bil Weld has done it. I do not deny that Trump has done it and has flip-flopped on issues. But when in office, he has not flip-flopped, he committed to repealing the ACA (which failed, but he tried) and successfully passed tax cuts. Bill Weld comes from the wing of the party were this would be anathema. Plus if a RINO like Weld was the nominee, the base would stay home and the Dems would win easily. Another thing, Trump has legitimately changed his positiona on issues. Bill Weld has kept the same positions and just changed the letter next to his name. Bill Weld's actions are the definition of political opportunism

Soooo now you're saying that Bill Weld is too consistent in terms of his positions whereas Trump flip-flops on the issues and that's a good thing?

I can’t even begin to untangle this word soup.

Trump.

He's made some mistakes and I don't agree with every action he's taken, but he's governed like a conservative some 80% of the time, is critical of the EU and China, has a good cordial relationship with Moon and Abe, I like his foreign policy in the ME, has been great with the courts and is addressing Immigration (albeit not always successfully). And probably has a 50-55% chance of winning re election.

Even though it's a moot point as Weld has no chance of defeating an incumbent in a primary, he wouldn't win in a general election anyway.

Weld easily.

Of course, given the choice, I would easily vote for the chair I'm sitting on over Trump.

The poll says “Republicans only.”

Anyway, I’d obviously choose Weld and will probably vote for him in 2020.

Trump, because Weld is a left-wing extremist.

Trump.  He has done what he said he'd do, and while I don't agree with all of it, I certainly agree with him on immigration and trade, and he's been faithful on the abortion issue, regardless of his personal beliefs.

even Jeremy Corbyn or Ilhan Omar

Weld. Trump is a moron.

Hot take or dumb one?  I mean sure, he's not a "unreconstructed Southron," but that isn't the litmus test for being a non-left-wing extremist.

Anyway, easily Weld.


I'm sure he's crushed that he has not gotten the honor of "real Republican" bestowed upon him by a poster on Atlas that isn't even a Republican himself. ;)

Well, I guess I'll bump this


My choice is obviously Weld, because Trump is a clown

Maybe he couldn't decide what set of colors he liked better?

Weld's campaign is even more pathetic than De Blasio's or Swalwell's; at least they made it to a debate stage, Weld is relying almost entirely on left-wing hosts on CNN or MSNBC bringing him on for a couple minutes to bash Trump

There is no debate stage for Weld to make it to. He has only one opponent and that person refuses to debate him. Pretty dumb comparison if you ask me.

I know that, I mean the comparison in that the bottom-tier democratic candidates at least have an opportunity for exposure, while Weld has none

True; I thought you were saying that Weld had somehow failed to make the nonexistent GOP debates. I apologize. (Though I still object to the comparison with Swalwell.)

What happened in 4 & a 1/2 months?

Trump of course

Weld has more in common with democrats

Trump, because the Democrats and media hate him more.

I also want to know this. What was the last straw for you with Trump?

Trump. It's hard to imagine a situation where I would ever vote for Bill Weld.

I like how the question says "Republicans ONLY", but the partisan results show only 39 of 87 votes coming from Republicans ...

Weld, Trump is an embarrassment to the country and party.

Weld, even though he's not great. I would much rather have anyone outside the Santorumite and war hawk wings of the party than Trump.

Weld endorsed Obama

Those aren't mutual exclusivities.

You can’t call yourself a republican and at the same time endorsing Obama

Nice disavowment of a lot of those voters who won Trump the Rust Belt, then.

A ordinary voter =/= A former governor

When you are a politician and if you don’t like the presidential nominee of your party, you stay quiet but you don’t endorse the main leader of the other party.
Look at Manchin, he didn’t like Obama but he stayed quiet

Thread is hilarious. Also, trump.

What is your thing with MA Republicans? Baker, Weld, you hate them all. Why?

Yes, and he is extremely loose on immigration policy. The fact that I would support that over Trump might give you an idea as to how dissatisfied by the Trump administration I really am.

You must be confusing me with someone else, I like Baker and Weld.

Trump endorsed Obama after he beat McCain and spoke glowingly of him for almost 2 years

What?

I don't think many of those voters actually called themselves a Republican.

I love how only 40% of people voting on this poll are Republicans.

Did you vote on this poll?

nope, but that being said 60% were R or I. Probably only 50% of the poll was right wing

I would prefer Kasich but Weld

Trump, at this point.  The record is there.