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Title: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: dead0man on February 17, 2019, 06:34:03 AM link-Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/02/final-version-eus-copyright-directive-worst-one-yet)
Quote Despite ringing denunciations from small EU tech businesses, giant EU entertainment companies, artists' groups, technical experts, and human rights experts, and the largest body of concerned citizens in EU history, the EU has concluded its "trilogues" on the new Copyright Directive, striking a deal that—amazingly—is worse than any in the Directive's sordid history. hopefully, like last time, it will get voted downQuote Now that the Directive has emerged from the Trilogue, it will head to the European Parliament for a vote for the whole body, either during the March 25-28 session or the April 15-18 session—with elections scheduled in May. These elections are critical: the Members of the European Parliament are going to be fighting an election right after voting on this Directive, which is already the most unpopular legislative effort in European history, and that's before the public gets wind of these latest changes. Let's get real: no EU political party will be able to campaign for votes on the strength of passing the Copyright Directive—but plenty of parties will be able to drum up support to throw out the parties that defied the will of voters and risked the destruction of the Internet as we know it to pour a few million Euros into the coffers of media companies and newspaper proprietors—after those companies told them not to. link to Jun 2018 version of the thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295217.0) Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: Omega21 on February 17, 2019, 11:05:17 AM link-Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/02/final-version-eus-copyright-directive-worst-one-yet) Quote Despite ringing denunciations from small EU tech businesses, giant EU entertainment companies, artists' groups, technical experts, and human rights experts, and the largest body of concerned citizens in EU history, the EU has concluded its "trilogues" on the new Copyright Directive, striking a deal that—amazingly—is worse than any in the Directive's sordid history. hopefully, like last time, it will get voted downQuote Now that the Directive has emerged from the Trilogue, it will head to the European Parliament for a vote for the whole body, either during the March 25-28 session or the April 15-18 session—with elections scheduled in May. These elections are critical: the Members of the European Parliament are going to be fighting an election right after voting on this Directive, which is already the most unpopular legislative effort in European history, and that's before the public gets wind of these latest changes. Let's get real: no EU political party will be able to campaign for votes on the strength of passing the Copyright Directive—but plenty of parties will be able to drum up support to throw out the parties that defied the will of voters and risked the destruction of the Internet as we know it to pour a few million Euros into the coffers of media companies and newspaper proprietors—after those companies told them not to. link to Jun 2018 version of the thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295217.0) And that is why I am looking forward to some changes and more right-wing MEPs this May. Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on February 17, 2019, 11:22:38 AM link-Electronic Frontier Foundation (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/02/final-version-eus-copyright-directive-worst-one-yet) Quote Despite ringing denunciations from small EU tech businesses, giant EU entertainment companies, artists' groups, technical experts, and human rights experts, and the largest body of concerned citizens in EU history, the EU has concluded its "trilogues" on the new Copyright Directive, striking a deal that—amazingly—is worse than any in the Directive's sordid history. hopefully, like last time, it will get voted downQuote Now that the Directive has emerged from the Trilogue, it will head to the European Parliament for a vote for the whole body, either during the March 25-28 session or the April 15-18 session—with elections scheduled in May. These elections are critical: the Members of the European Parliament are going to be fighting an election right after voting on this Directive, which is already the most unpopular legislative effort in European history, and that's before the public gets wind of these latest changes. Let's get real: no EU political party will be able to campaign for votes on the strength of passing the Copyright Directive—but plenty of parties will be able to drum up support to throw out the parties that defied the will of voters and risked the destruction of the Internet as we know it to pour a few million Euros into the coffers of media companies and newspaper proprietors—after those companies told them not to. link to Jun 2018 version of the thread (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295217.0) And that is why I am looking forward to some changes and more right-wing MEPs this May. How will right wing MEPs change it, seeing as most of the right wing groups support the bill afaik? Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: parochial boy on February 17, 2019, 12:29:38 PM ()
Voting for a GUE/NGL or G/EFA party might be your best bet. Or EFDD, assuming they still exist Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: DavidB. on February 17, 2019, 12:35:13 PM Voting for a GUE/NGL or G/EFA party might be your best bet. Or EFDD, assuming they still exist Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: parochial boy on February 17, 2019, 12:47:27 PM Voting for a GUE/NGL or G/EFA party might be your best bet. Or EFDD, assuming they still exist Maybe so, but the initial point implied that the best way to oppose this was to vote for "more" (read populist) right wing MEPs. All I did was point out that isn't consistently the case, especially seeing as the groups are still the easiest way to get a rough-ish picture. Also, some of us will be affected by this, even without having a "national" party we can actually vote for. Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: DavidB. on February 17, 2019, 12:50:56 PM Also, some of us will be affected by this, even without having a "national" party we can actually vote for. Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: parochial boy on February 17, 2019, 01:08:49 PM Also, some of us will be affected by this, even without having a "national" party we can actually vote for. It's in no small part (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Swiss_referendums)thanks to the "have cake and eat it" attitude of those sorts of parties that we're in the situation we're in. I mean, the logical thing would be to have a say in the decisions that affect us, not to try and pretend we can bring back a world where they don't Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: DavidB. on February 17, 2019, 01:23:54 PM Also, some of us will be affected by this, even without having a "national" party we can actually vote for. It's in no small part (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Swiss_referendums)thanks to the "have cake and eat it" attitude of those sorts of parties that we're in the situation we're in. I mean, the logical thing would be to have a say in the decisions that affect us, not to try and pretend we can bring back a world where they don't Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: parochial boy on February 17, 2019, 01:29:43 PM Also, some of us will be affected by this, even without having a "national" party we can actually vote for. It's in no small part (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Swiss_referendums)thanks to the "have cake and eat it" attitude of those sorts of parties that we're in the situation we're in. I mean, the logical thing would be to have a say in the decisions that affect us, not to try and pretend we can bring back a world where they don't Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: Former President tack50 on February 17, 2019, 03:19:08 PM EU: Passes unpopular policies
Europeans: Start voting far right anti EU parties EU: () I am very pro EU, but stuff like this is definitely doesn't help make the EU popular. Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: PSOL on February 17, 2019, 05:43:38 PM Hopefully the growth of Green, and more appropriately the Pirate Parties, will serve as a more palatable alternative to voters in the future to shut these awful laws down.
Title: Re: EU tries to kill the internet (Feb 2019 version) Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 17, 2019, 06:22:41 PM Bad policy making by an elected parliament isn't usually used to underming the existence of the institution as a whole. Except with the EU, it apparently does. |