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Title: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: ON Progressive on March 15, 2019, 02:16:13 PM
New Election:  2018 Utah Initiative General Election Results  (https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2018&off=63&elect=0&fips=49&f=0)
   
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Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: RI on March 15, 2019, 05:03:43 PM
Pretty amazing that this map is a "Yes" victory.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: lfromnj on March 15, 2019, 05:09:58 PM
#populist Carbon County returning to its Democrat roots by voting with the big city Democrats once again.

Seriously though why did it? IIRC correctly it was the only county in Utah that Swung R in 2016.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: VPH on March 16, 2019, 06:03:50 PM
#populist Carbon County returning to its Democrat roots by voting with the big city Democrats once again.

Seriously though why did it? IIRC correctly it was the only county in Utah that Swung R in 2016.

Something I've noticed in referendums is that formerly Democratic counties swinging to the Republicans will often still vote for the "left" position on ballot issues for years after they've flipped electorally. On Question 790 in Oklahoma, Coal County was the strongest "no" voting county, more so than even Cleveland County. The 2014 Illinois miminum wage increased fared especially well in placed like Calhoun County that are formerly Dem. Virginia's RTW vote also showed this trend. 


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: Some of My Best Friends Are Gay on March 16, 2019, 09:48:57 PM
#populist Carbon County returning to its Democrat roots by voting with the big city Democrats once again.

Seriously though why did it? IIRC correctly it was the only county in Utah that Swung R in 2016.

Something I've noticed in referendums is that formerly Democratic counties swinging to the Republicans will often still vote for the "left" position on ballot issues for years after they've flipped electorally. On Question 790 in Oklahoma, Coal County was the strongest "no" voting county, more so than even Cleveland County. The 2014 Illinois miminum wage increased fared especially well in placed like Calhoun County that are formerly Dem. Virginia's RTW vote also showed this trend. 

The Missouri 2018 referendums show this too. Racist hicks will vote against their interest so long as the GOP screams bloody murder about black people kneeling, Confederate traitor statues and the like

There aren't too many racist Hicks in Utah.

In my experience, Mormons are far less racist than white evangelicals.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: Mr. Smith on March 16, 2019, 10:55:24 PM
Pretty amazing that this map is a "Yes" victory.

It really isn't. Most of the population is in The Salt Lake-Provo-Logan Corridor, with another dab in Alpine/Park City.

With enthusiasm high in SLC proper, and apathy in pretty much all the other burbs sans Provo, this was quite a logical conclusion.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: lfromnj on March 17, 2019, 12:56:35 PM
#populist Carbon County returning to its Democrat roots by voting with the big city Democrats once again.

Seriously though why did it? IIRC correctly it was the only county in Utah that Swung R in 2016.

Something I've noticed in referendums is that formerly Democratic counties swinging to the Republicans will often still vote for the "left" position on ballot issues for years after they've flipped electorally. On Question 790 in Oklahoma, Coal County was the strongest "no" voting county, more so than even Cleveland County. The 2014 Illinois miminum wage increased fared especially well in placed like Calhoun County that are formerly Dem. Virginia's RTW vote also showed this trend. 

The Missouri 2018 referendums show this too. Racist hicks will vote against their interest so long as the GOP screams bloody murder about black people kneeling, Confederate traitor statues and the like

There aren't too many racist Hicks in Utah.

In my experience, Mormons are far less racist than white evangelicals.

Carbon county isn't Mormon. Its pretty similar to Applachia in general.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: nclib on April 13, 2019, 07:30:08 PM
Good that Utah will have a fair map in 2022 - I'm assuming this means that they'll be a CD based in Salt Lake City (and possibly SLC suburbs and Park City) that will at worst be lean D.


Title: Re: UT: 2018 Initiative General Election Result
Post by: Wisconsin SC Race 2019 on April 13, 2019, 08:00:49 PM
#populist Carbon County returning to its Democrat roots by voting with the big city Democrats once again.

Seriously though why did it? IIRC correctly it was the only county in Utah that Swung R in 2016.

Something I've noticed in referendums is that formerly Democratic counties swinging to the Republicans will often still vote for the "left" position on ballot issues for years after they've flipped electorally. On Question 790 in Oklahoma, Coal County was the strongest "no" voting county, more so than even Cleveland County. The 2014 Illinois miminum wage increased fared especially well in placed like Calhoun County that are formerly Dem. Virginia's RTW vote also showed this trend.  

The Missouri 2018 referendums show this too. Racist hicks will vote against their interest so long as the GOP screams bloody murder about black people kneeling, Confederate traitor statues and the like, even as they vote for referendums like minimum wage increases, banning dark money, weed and unions


Missouri Minimum Wage Referendum (https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2018&off=60&elect=0&fips=29&f=0)

now compare to the State Auditor Election (https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2018&off=11&elect=0&fips=29&f=0) map where the incumbent Democrat who by all accounts was doing a good job was running against a literal fraud with an R after her name.
Looks like Dems should be running on the minimum wage and unions instead of reparations and other electorally toxic grievances.