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Title: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: PSOL on March 20, 2019, 12:20:08 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-cyclone/rescue-teams-race-to-save-hundreds-trapped-by-mozambique-cyclone-idUSKCN1R10M1
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Aid workers scrambled to save hundreds trapped by floods around the Mozambican port city of Beira on Wednesday, after a powerful cyclone killed hundreds of people and left a trail of destruction across swathes of southeast Africa.

Cyclone Idai hit Mozambique’s port city of Beira with winds of up to 170 kph (105 mph) last Thursday, then moved inland to Zimbabwe and Malawi, flattening buildings and putting the lives of millions at risk.

At least 200 people have died in Mozambique and 98 in Zimbabwe, but the death toll is likely to rise as rescuers are still finding bodies.

Such a horrible thing that could have been mitigated by infrastructure investment. I hope that authorities can provide assistance in ample time to calm the situation.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: Storebought on March 20, 2019, 12:57:57 PM
What a shame.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: hurricanehink on March 27, 2019, 12:47:58 PM
The death toll is at 788 right now, mostly in Mozambique and Zimbabwe.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: PSOL on March 28, 2019, 07:31:30 AM
The death toll is at 788 right now, mostly in Mozambique and Zimbabwe.
Where did you get that information, 713 are confirmed dead by recent times. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-cyclone-toll-factbox/factbox-cyclone-idais-death-toll-rises-to-713-hundreds-of-thousands-displaced-idUSKCN1R816C)


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: Santander on March 28, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
If a hurricane happens and nobody cares, did it really happen?


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: PSOL on March 28, 2019, 12:23:24 PM
If a hurricane happens and nobody cares, did it really happen?
Yes, and you should care given the implications of this disaster and long term effects. There is also such a thing called solidarity and empathy, of which you need practice with, for the death caused by not putting in the money for infrastructure that both the coasts of southeast Africa and southeast US can corraborate to.

Why are you on the Int. Discussion board then? You don’t care for anything outside of doing troll acts of mainstream news at home.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: PSOL on March 29, 2019, 06:56:20 PM
Cyclone Idai's death toll rises to 738, hundreds of thousands displaced (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-cyclone-toll-factbox/factbox-cyclone-idais-death-toll-rises-to-738-hundreds-of-thousands-displaced-idUSKCN1RA1W1)
The link provides a breakdown of casualties in each country so far. Mozambique has been hit pretty brutally by the hurricane. In the coastal city of Beira, for example, Cholera outbreaks have infected 138 individuals so far per authorities. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-africa-cyclone-cholera/cholera-cases-jump-to-138-in-mozambiques-beira-after-cyclone-idUSKCN1RA0UG)


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: hurricanehink on March 30, 2019, 08:34:35 AM
If a hurricane happens and nobody cares, did it really happen?

Yes, scientists have been meticulously tracking tropical cyclones worldwide for decades. It’s important to know the historical record for context. Cyclone Idai was among the deadliest tropical cyclones on record. It also was one of nine intense cyclones (basically the equivalent to a major hurricane) in its annual cyclone season. This cyclone will not be forgotten. Although it got scant mention in the US, its impacts will be felt for years.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on March 30, 2019, 09:40:16 AM
If a hurricane happens and nobody cares, did it really happen?
Yes, and you should care given the implications of this disaster and long term effects. There is also such a thing called solidarity and empathy, of which you need practice with, for the death caused by not putting in the money for infrastructure that both the coasts of southeast Africa and southeast US can corraborate to.

Why are you on the Int. Discussion board then? You don’t care for anything outside of doing troll acts of mainstream news at home.
As if he was implying he doesn’t care.  He was implying that we don’t, collectively.  And he’s right.  Nobody cares about this beyond a brief “that’s too bad.  Did you hear Aunt Peggy’s basement got flooded?  Yeah it was only a foot deep but she’ll finally have to replace that awful musty orange shag carpet!”


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: PSOL on March 30, 2019, 10:40:16 AM
If a hurricane happens and nobody cares, did it really happen?
Yes, and you should care given the implications of this disaster and long term effects. There is also such a thing called solidarity and empathy, of which you need practice with, for the death caused by not putting in the money for infrastructure that both the coasts of southeast Africa and southeast US can corraborate to.

Why are you on the Int. Discussion board then? You don’t care for anything outside of doing troll acts of mainstream news at home.
As if he was implying he doesn’t care.  He was implying that we don’t, collectively.  And he’s right.  Nobody cares about this beyond a brief “that’s too bad.  Did you hear Aunt Peggy’s basement got flooded?  Yeah it was only a foot deep but she’ll finally have to replace that awful musty orange shag carpet!”
I admit as a policy nut I like seeing parallels with worldwide events. But the matter is Santander’s post was implicitly questioning the very merit of the post standing here, on an international discussion board, with a major death toll and huge implications on what may happen next in the affected societies. We had threads on European attacks with smaller death tolls stand here as news on the basis of being unique and having wider implications on what will happen regionwide, and people did voice their condolences as they should in that trajedy with care, so I don’t see the difference here.

We’re going off topic into meta territory, which takes away from discussing the recent hurricane, so if you don’t care then just don’t post in this thread than. Don’t however steer this off-topic nor try to claim the collective into your preferential mass by stuffing words down its throat.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: hurricanehink on April 02, 2019, 05:58:09 PM
It matters because we’re talking human lives, which can be an abstract concept when discussing politics. Cyclone Idai’s death toll is at 958, making it the 3rd deadliest in the entire southern hemisphere. It compares to Mozambique’s worst disaster, which was in early 2000, when weeks of flooding preceded Cyclone Eline, together killing 700 people in Mozambique. Idai has killed 598 in Mozambique, and the death toll is still rising.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7363 (https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7363) - here is satellite imagery showing floods in Mozambique eight days after the storm struck.


Title: Re: Death toll rising in disastrous hurricane off of South East Africa
Post by: BenBurch on April 08, 2019, 11:00:17 AM
It matters because we’re talking human lives, which can be an abstract concept when discussing politics. Cyclone Idai’s death toll is at 958, making it the 3rd deadliest in the entire southern hemisphere. It compares to Mozambique’s worst disaster, which was in early 2000, when weeks of flooding preceded Cyclone Eline, together killing 700 people in Mozambique. Idai has killed 598 in Mozambique, and the death toll is still rising.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7363 (https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7363) - here is satellite imagery showing floods in Mozambique eight days after the storm struck.

One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic.  ;(