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Title: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Tekken_Guy on March 30, 2019, 11:47:18 PM
What will Gretchen Whitmer do after she’s done governing Michigan?


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: President Johnson on March 31, 2019, 04:31:31 AM
If Trump wins reelection, she would be in a very strong position for the Democratic nomination in 2024 and favored to win the general election. If Trump is defeated, I still think Whitmer gets a second term in Michigan. After that, she'll either run for senate or president in 2028. Maybe she Attorney General under a Democratic president. Keep in mind she just 47.

I hope she ends up in the White House one day. She's among the best gubernatorial newcomers this year.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Politician on March 31, 2019, 07:33:30 AM
Assuming she wins re-election, run for president in either 2024 (if Trump wins) or 2028 (if Trump loses). Maybe run for Peters' senate seat if he retires.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: LoneStarDem on March 31, 2019, 08:28:47 AM
She's still smoking HOT.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Galeel on March 31, 2019, 11:48:06 AM
If she wins re-election she is in a very good place. She could run for Senate to replace Stabenow, get a good cabinet position in a Democratic administration, or even run for President herself.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Del Tachi on April 02, 2019, 09:57:12 AM
Loses reelection in 2022


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: QAnonKelly on April 02, 2019, 10:33:52 AM
She’d be a good fit in the next administration’s cabinet.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Duke of York on April 02, 2019, 11:14:14 AM

I wouldn't say that. Its going to be a close race but she's not DOA.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Del Tachi on April 02, 2019, 11:32:49 AM

I wouldn't say that. Its going to be a close race but she's not DOA.

If Democrats win back the White House in 2020 (especially with a coastal elite like Harris or Warren), we should expect 2022 to go the way of 1994, 2010 and 2014.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: 😥 on April 02, 2019, 01:05:21 PM
If Trump wins reelection, than 2024 presidential candidate, probably Democratic nominee and next US President

If Trump loses reelection, than Senator since 2025 (replace retiring Stabenow), 2028 and 2032 presidential candidate


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 02, 2019, 04:16:31 PM
I do NOT see Whitmer losing reelection in 2022.

Plus, how long can the MI GOP hold onto their majorities in the MI State Legislature ?


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on April 02, 2019, 06:55:59 PM
LOL I will never understand why Atlas, without any logic or reason, thinks Whitmer is DOA in 2022, Republican or Democrat in the WH.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Pollster on April 02, 2019, 07:58:48 PM
If Trump is re-elected, she is on the ticket in 2024.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on April 02, 2019, 08:06:30 PM
If she's popular, gets re-elected, and Trump wins in 2020 (which makes her re-election a bit likelier); she will be in the 2024 Democratic primary and possibly even be a front-runner.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 09, 2019, 09:38:02 PM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: PAK Man on April 10, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
LOL I will never understand why Atlas, without any logic or reason, thinks Whitmer is DOA in 2022, Republican or Democrat in the WH.

I've noticed a lot of people here like to proclaim doom and gloom for certain candidates without any shred of evidence.

And no, I do not see Whitmer losing reelection, unless she does something really outrageously awful. Governors seldom lose reelection. In 2010, the only incumbent governor to lose reelection was Chet Culver (D-IA). Every other Democratic incumbent who sought reelection survived. And in 2014, of the three governors who lost reelection in the general, only one of them was a Democrat (Pat Quinn). Both of those governors were highly unpopular and lost because of how unpopular they were. Whitmer seems to be doing fine so far, and unless a scandal occurs, she'll be fine.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Politician on April 10, 2019, 12:27:25 PM
LOL I will never understand why Atlas, without any logic or reason, thinks Whitmer is DOA in 2022, Republican or Democrat in the WH.

I've noticed a lot of people here like to proclaim doom and gloom for certain candidates without any shred of evidence.

And no, I do not see Whitmer losing reelection, unless she does something really outrageously awful. Governors seldom lose reelection. In 2010, the only incumbent governor to lose reelection was Chet Culver (D-IA). Every other Democratic incumbent who sought reelection survived. And in 2014, of the three governors who lost reelection in the general, only one of them was a Democrat (Pat Quinn). Both of those governors were highly unpopular and lost because of how unpopular they were. Whitmer seems to be doing fine so far, and unless a scandal occurs, she'll be fine.
Ted Strickland (D-OH) also lost re-election in 2010.

But yeah, the number of incumbents defeated is pretty low each cycle, even when there are a bunch of unpopular ones up.

2018: 2
2014: 3
2010: 2
2006: 1
2002: 4
1998: 2
1994: 4


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Cyrusman on April 13, 2019, 03:55:28 PM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.

What makes you think she’s popular? Her proposed gas tax is absolutely hated in michagen and that’s putting it nicely


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Rhenna on April 13, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
Replaces Stabenow in 2024


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Bojack Horseman on April 13, 2019, 08:26:41 PM
I think Stabenow retires in 2024 and Whitmer wins her seat, leaving Garlin Gilchrist to serve out the last two years of her term.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 14, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.

What makes you think she’s popular? Her proposed gas tax is absolutely hated in michagen and that’s putting it nicely
just looking at polls dude


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Free Bird on April 14, 2019, 11:43:17 AM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.

What makes you think she’s popular? Her proposed gas tax is absolutely hated in michagen and that’s putting it nicely
just looking at polls dude

But polls now =/= polls at the right time. Unless someone here is psychic, we have no way of knowing how popular she'll be in 3 years, so it's irrelevant to call her popular as a defense at this moment.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: 💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his) on April 14, 2019, 01:30:56 PM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.

What makes you think she’s popular? Her proposed gas tax is absolutely hated in michagen and that’s putting it nicely
just looking at polls dude

But polls now =/= polls at the right time. Unless someone here is psychic, we have no way of knowing how popular she'll be in 3 years, so it's irrelevant to call her popular as a defense at this moment.

MI Govs seem destined to fail, much like Il and AK Govs

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Michigan_gubernatorial_election (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Michigan_gubernatorial_election)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Michigan_gubernatorial_election (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Michigan_gubernatorial_election)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Michigan_gubernatorial_election (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Michigan_gubernatorial_election)
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Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Bidenworth2020 on April 14, 2019, 03:20:45 PM
I see no reason why a popular incumbent governor would be assumed to lose her re-election.

What makes you think she’s popular? Her proposed gas tax is absolutely hated in michagen and that’s putting it nicely
just looking at polls dude

But polls now =/= polls at the right time. Unless someone here is psychic, we have no way of knowing how popular she'll be in 3 years, so it's irrelevant to call her popular as a defense at this moment.
I know. I am just arguing against the assumption because again, we have no idea.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Obama-Biden Democrat on April 14, 2019, 10:26:43 PM
She would be our first Milf president. Katie Hill could be her VP and be our first Milf VP.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Lechasseur on April 16, 2019, 03:46:01 PM
If Trump wins reelection, she would be in a very strong position for the Democratic nomination in 2024 and favored to win the general election. If Trump is defeated, I still think Whitmer gets a second term in Michigan. After that, she'll either run for senate or president in 2028. Maybe she Attorney General under a Democratic president. Keep in mind she just 47.

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Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 16, 2019, 08:03:38 PM
I'm assuming Milliken was the last MI Governor to leave office popular with high approval ratings when he left in 1983 after 14 years in office.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: 💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his) on April 16, 2019, 08:40:34 PM
I’d still bet on her winning re-election, but MI Govs have historically left office unpopular—Snyder, Granholm, Engle, the dude Engler defeated in 1990. It’s ungovernable

Snyder left in one of the most baffling and damaging political scandals of the decade and Granholm ended her term in the depths of a recession which hit Michigan worse than most other states in the union. It's not something unique to the state.


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 16, 2019, 08:49:51 PM
I’d still bet on her winning re-election, but MI Govs have historically left office unpopular—Snyder, Granholm, Engle, the dude Engler defeated in 1990. It’s ungovernable

Snyder left in one of the most baffling and damaging political scandals of the decade and Granholm ended her term in the depths of a recession which hit Michigan worse than most other states in the union. It's not something unique to the state.

Let's review the last several MI Governors:

George Romney (R): 1963 to 1969: Popular when he resigned to become Nixon's US Housing & Urban Development Secretary.

William Milliken (R): 1969 to 1983: Left popular.

James Blanchard (D): 1983 to 1991: unpopular & lost reelection in bid for 3rd term in 1990.

John Engler (R): 1991 to 2003: unpopular

Jennifer Granholm (D): 2003 to 2011: Had so much political potential, but blew it & left unpopular.

Rick Snyder (R): 2011 to 2019: Obviously despised for obvious reasons (Flint Crisis, Scott Walker-esque tactics)


Title: Re: Political future of Gretchen Whitmer
Post by: Bojack Horseman on April 19, 2019, 12:33:45 AM
I’d still bet on her winning re-election, but MI Govs have historically left office unpopular—Snyder, Granholm, Engle, the dude Engler defeated in 1990. It’s ungovernable

Snyder left in one of the most baffling and damaging political scandals of the decade and Granholm ended her term in the depths of a recession which hit Michigan worse than most other states in the union. It's not something unique to the state.

Let's review the last several MI Governors:

George Romney (R): 1963 to 1969: Popular when he resigned to become Nixon's US Housing & Urban Development Secretary.

William Milliken (R): 1969 to 1983: Left popular.

James Blanchard (D): 1983 to 1991: unpopular & lost reelection in bid for 3rd term in 1990.

John Engler (R): 1991 to 2003: unpopular

Jennifer Granholm (D): 2003 to 2011: Had so much political potential, but blew it & left unpopular.

Rick Snyder (R): 2011 to 2019: Obviously despised for obvious reasons (Flint Crisis, Scott Walker-esque tactics)

Engler had the benefit of a wave election in 1994 and a dream opponent in 1998. Geoffrey Fisher was a Sharron Angle-type bad candidate and if the Dems had nominated someone else, they might have had a chance.