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Title: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Alcon on November 16, 2005, 10:26:41 pm
This thread contains registration information, such as restrictions currently in place on state moves, pending registrations, and recent Department decisions.  Feel free to use this as a forum for questions about registration, disputes, corrections, etc.

Expiring restrictions
  • 12/6 - Emsworth
  • 12/17 - exnaderite
  • 12/21 - aflietch
  • 12/23 - dubya2004, SamSpade
  • 12/24 - Everett, GWBFan, josh4bush, theking2004
  • 12/27 - BenMeyers, Lewis Trondheim, WiseGuy
  • 1/10 - Gustaf
  • 1/15 - CheeseWhiz

Asterisked voters
  • Adam Griffin
  • Bob
  • Cashcow
  • JLD
  • PADem
  • Spl2
  • YoungRepub

New voters
  • CARLHAYDEN
  • GM3PRP
  • KillerPollo
  • wbecker

Pending registrations
  • Straha

Recent decisions
  • 11/16 - Everett's move to Montana declared invalid; registration returned to Wyoming.  Restriction expiration 12/24.
  • 11/16 - Rebels' registrations in other countries to be ignored.  All are free to move as if those registrations had never taken place.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on November 16, 2005, 10:39:27 pm

  • 11/16 - Everett's move to Montana declared invalid; registration returned to Wyoming.  Restriction expiration 12/24.
Could this affect redistricting and therefore make the current process invalid?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Alcon on November 16, 2005, 10:41:50 pm

  • 11/16 - Everett's move to Montana declared invalid; registration returned to Wyoming. Restriction expiration 12/24.
Could this affect redistricting and therefore make the current process invalid?

I'm not sure if the Census is amended under such a situation or it stands incorrect as it was.  The AtlasWiki won't load on my end, so I'm afraid I'm unable to check.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MAS117 on November 16, 2005, 11:05:17 pm
A very appropriate thread name.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on November 16, 2005, 11:06:10 pm
Wiki is loading fine for me. I doubt it was ever specified. It might be best just to leave it as is since a few people have already registered since then anyway.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Bono on November 21, 2005, 02:44:53 pm
Nice work. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on November 29, 2005, 05:31:06 pm
From the Office of the Secretary of Forum Affairs:

The registration of the voter Adam Griffin has been changed from Atlas Forum Democratic Party to Independent, due to the former's official disbanding.

The registrations of the voters nickshepDEM, PADem, and Umengus have been changed from Farmer-Labor Party to Independent, due to the former's official disbanding.

These voters have been notified by PM.

Q
Secretary of Forum Affairs


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on November 30, 2005, 07:06:35 pm
The staff of the Office of the Secretary of Forum Affairs is pleased to announce that the voter rolls have been updated.

They are available here (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls).

Please suggest any changes and report any errors in this thread or by messaging the Secretary.

Thank you.

Q
Secretary of Forum Affairs


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Sam Spade on December 01, 2005, 06:32:07 pm
In my occasional reading over your voter lists, I would point out these corrections which need to be made:

1.  Straha is now a new registered voter, since he now has the requisite number of posts to vote in the December elections, (94) and has had been since October 30.

2.  Rin-chan is a new voter and should be marked as such.  Her first registration occurred on October 11, and was deemed to be after the 10-day registration rule.  She was therefore ineligible to vote in the October elections and her first eligible election will be in December.

3.  WI_Dem is a new voter and should be marked as such.  His registration is quite too recent for it to be anything other than such.

4.  There are also more minor problems that you should examine with regards to forum affairs law:

Is Carlhayden the definition of a new voter or not?  Which party is Kevin really registered in? (you got me here)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Schmitz in 1972 on December 01, 2005, 06:38:08 pm
Does King's post on the register thread mean he is deregistering? Also, I have a strong suspicion that the poster "KingInd" is an alternate incarnation of King.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 01, 2005, 07:10:44 pm
Thank you for your help, Sam.  I think I have addressed each of the issues you have raised.  I appreciate your attention to these details.

And, yes, Liberty, I have taken King's post to mean that he is deregistering.

Voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) have again been updated.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: CheeseWhiz on December 01, 2005, 07:13:51 pm
Does King's post on the register thread mean he is deregistering? Also, I have a strong suspicion that the poster "KingInd" is an alternate incarnation of King.

Why would he leave just as an alternate comes on?  Also, I don't think King is stupid enough to name his second account something with "King" in it.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 02, 2005, 06:22:22 pm
Hi, I'd just like to repeat my rescindment of an earlier executive order, which deals with people who declare their wish to leave:

"I have hereby decided to rescind an executive order imposed by an earlier administration, which deals with voters who no longer wish to be Atlasian citizens.  As was previously, voters who had stated their wish to be removed from the voter rolls were summarily ignored.

However, from now on, any such individual's registrations will become 'dormant'.  They will not be permitted to vote, or be considered an Atlasian citizen, until such time that they declare their wish to return.  If they return within the same length of time that they would have naturally been removed from the rolls, then their registration will be treated as if they had never left."


You can consider this new order to have taken effect from Q's removal of King from the roll and onwards.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 02, 2005, 07:58:18 pm
An excellent decision, Mr. President.

So you would like me to mark as "dormant" those who ask to de-register, rather than removing them in their entirety?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 02, 2005, 08:50:09 pm
That would be preferable, just so that there is still a record of their last registration if they choose to return.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Max Power on December 02, 2005, 09:26:35 pm
Voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) have again been updated.
I moved from the CAP to the FDP, not the AMRLP. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 04, 2005, 06:36:27 pm
I hereby open a public comment period on the official December 2005 Federal Elections ballot (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=32709).  Please make any suggestions regarding the ballot (or voting in general) in this thread.

Thank you.

Q
Secretary of Forum Affairs


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 06, 2005, 09:40:51 pm
While there are many qualified individuals who would serve honorably in this position, because I like to see new members get involved, and also for his judicious mindset appropriate for this job, I am pleased to announce the nomination of Yates to serve along side me as Deputy Secretary of Fourm Affairs.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 06, 2005, 09:44:57 pm
I would like to thank Q for his faith and trust in me. I will not let him, President Joe Republic, nor the people of Atlasia down in this position. Thank you very much.

Yates


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 06, 2005, 09:45:42 pm
And I'll happily confirm him.  It's always good to see some fresh blood in Atlasia, and I'm confident that Yates is a solid pick for the role of DSoFA.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MAS117 on December 06, 2005, 10:57:00 pm
While there are many qualified individuals who would serve honorably in this position, because I like to see new members get involved, and also for his judicious mindset appropriate for this job, I am pleased to announce the nomination of Yates to serve along side me as Deputy Secretary of Fourm Affairs.

Congrats Yates!!!


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 06, 2005, 10:57:54 pm
Thank you very much, MAS.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 09, 2005, 12:49:10 am
As a reminder, voting in the Federal elections has been open for some time now.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 10, 2005, 01:49:02 pm
I have reviewed the validity of KucinichforPrez's vote, and while I shall wait for final word from Q, it does not seem as though his vote will be counted due to inactivity.

In order that the interested parties in a close race might have a better understanding of the current situation regarding that race, I will make a decision at this point.

I am in agreement with the Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs in that the voter KucinichforPrez's failure to have made 25 posts in the 8 weeks (56 days) prior to the commencement of this election renders the voter's ballot invalid.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: CheeseWhiz on December 10, 2005, 03:17:06 pm
Does King's vote count?  And if so, for which District?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 10, 2005, 03:38:59 pm
Does King's vote count? And if so, for which District?

I do not speak for Q, but I can assure you that it shall not count.  He was de-registered.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 10, 2005, 04:53:13 pm
Does King's vote count?  And if so, for which District?

I do not speak for Q, but I can assure you that it shall not count.  He was de-registered.

Again, the Deputy Secretary and I are of the same opinion.  The voter King asked for de-registration and was thus marked as a dormant voter.  His ballot would be invalid on those grounds alone, but King also edited his ballot.

Furthermore, should the issue of re-registration (or dormant to active status) arise, my opinion on the matter is as follows.  If a voter is to re-register, his state of registration shall remain the same at least until 60 days following the original registration establishing that voter as a voter.  De-registration followed by re-registration will not allow voter to change states in frequencies less than 60 days.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 10, 2005, 10:19:31 pm
The Deputy Secretary and I will post the Senate results soon after voting ends tomorrow night.  Tallying the votes on symbols, however, will require substantially greater effort and thus will take longer to compute after voting has ended.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 11, 2005, 08:23:10 pm
I'm sure everyone who would read this already knows, but just as a reminder, voting in the Federal Elections will conclude tonight at 11:59:59 EDST.

I would be happy to address in this thread any issues regarding this election that any citizen would like to raise, as they pertain to the administration of this election, including voter registration, the counting of ballots, or another relevant subject.

Thank you.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 11, 2005, 11:41:17 pm
The voter FezzyFestoon's ballot shall be considered invalid due to editing of that ballot.

Other timely announcements can be found near the bottom of the previous page of this thread.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 12, 2005, 12:07:42 am
The results of the December 2005 Federal Senatorial Elections have been certified.

Votes on the Symbols are currently being tabulated.  They will not be certified until later this week.

A run-off for District 4 Senate is scheduled for next weekend (Dec. 16-18).  As I will be away from my computer for a portion of that period of time, Deputy Secretary Yates will oversee at least those portions of the balloting for which I will be absent.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 12, 2005, 09:37:46 pm
Because of Q's absence, I will be monitoring the District 4 Run-off election.  I have posted the official voting thread here (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=33115.0). 

Please do not vote until the election begins - midnight this Friday.

Yates
Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MAS117 on December 12, 2005, 10:02:30 pm
Because of Q's absence, I will be monitoring the District 4 Run-off election.  I have posted the official voting thread here (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=33115.0). 

Please do not vote until the election begins - midnight this Friday.

Yates
Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs

You should lock the thread until Friday.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 12, 2005, 10:06:54 pm
Thank you for your suggestion.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 14, 2005, 10:06:24 pm
Good evening everyone.

I would like to update you on two subjects tonight. To begin with, I wish to remind all citizens in District 4 that the Run-off election for the Senate will begin Friday at midnight. For those who find the concept as confusing as I do, I am talking about the transition between Thursday and Friday. I will open the voting booth about an hour beforehand.

The second issue which I would like to address is the counting of the symbols vote. I am in the process of counting it, and in Q's absence, I will continue the process. I do not want anyone to think that Q is not helping. In fact, he is leading the counting effort. He is merely absent due to his trip. The symbol-counting will take a few days. Please be patient.

Thank you, and good night.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 14, 2005, 11:14:40 pm
Ballot counting and certification has determined that the Bald Eagle will be the National Bird.  For a detailed accounting, see the Federal voting booth (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=32709.new#new).


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Max Power on December 15, 2005, 12:53:31 am
Q, you went from organizing the Southeast Ballot Intiatives to counting the National Symbols vote. :P


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 15, 2005, 02:30:28 am
Q, you went from organizing the Southeast Ballot Intiatives to counting the National Symbols vote. :P

Yessir.  ???


On an unrelated note, the motto balloting results will be posted tomorrow evening.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on December 15, 2005, 04:30:13 pm
I'd like to appologize (kinda :P) for the pain of the Atlasian Symbols Act. (It's kinda because I still want it passed but I know it's like passing a kidney stone :P)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Max Power on December 15, 2005, 04:33:57 pm
Q, you went from organizing the Southeast Ballot Intiatives to counting the National Symbols vote. :P

Yessir.  ???
Oh, nothing. I just thought it was funny how every job you get, you have a huge task only a week or two into it. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 15, 2005, 09:27:27 pm
Oh, nothing. I just thought it was funny how every job you get, you have a huge task only a week or two into it. :)

Yes.  I hate myself sometimes.

I'd like to appologize (kinda :P) for the pain of the Atlasian Symbols Act. (It's kinda because I still want it passed but I know it's like passing a kidney stone :P)

That's ok.  I voted for it myself as Senator.  Never thought I'd be the one actually having to do the thing though.  At least the original version got amended (it called for 10 categories of symbols).


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 15, 2005, 11:10:27 pm
District Four Citizens:

Please begin voting at midnight for the Run-off Senate election.  Thank you.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 17, 2005, 11:38:32 pm
I would like to announce that the winner of the Atlasian Mammal vote is the American Black Bear.  I am going to be posting the round-by-round results online, and will provide the link.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 19, 2005, 05:39:23 pm
Voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) updated to reflect, among other changes, the changes in voter status following the December elections.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 19, 2005, 05:50:13 pm
Boss Tweed appears to be registered as a Communist.  I don't recall that happening, unless I missed it.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 19, 2005, 09:42:07 pm
Boss Tweed appears to be registered as a Communist.  I don't recall that happening, unless I missed it.

He did on the 12th of this month.  Updates like that are on the first page of the voter rolls file.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 19, 2005, 10:44:36 pm
Statement Regarding the District Four Senate Election

Good evening.  I have contacted the candidates, Bono and Dave, and they have responded.  I have let the candidates know their options, and I am here tonight to inform all Atlasians of the events which could potentially occur.

1) The candidates could agree to split the term.  They may do this whichever way they want - half/half, rotating weekly, etc.
2) If no agreement can be reached, the Senate shall decide a replacement.  The Senate cannot split the term.  If the Senate votes, the winning candidate serves for a full term.

Please contact me if you have any questions.  Thank you and good evening.

Yates
Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on December 21, 2005, 07:59:04 am
I would like to announce that the winner of the Atlasian Mammal vote is the American Black Bear.  I am going to be posting the round-by-round results online, and will provide the link.

bump. Wouldn't mind a national motto either.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 21, 2005, 09:07:04 am
I would like to announce that the winner of the Atlasian Mammal vote is the American Black Bear. I am going to be posting the round-by-round results online, and will provide the link.

bump. Wouldn't mind a national motto either.
He didn't say when he'd post those.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 21, 2005, 10:08:18 am
I would like to announce that the winner of the Atlasian Mammal vote is the American Black Bear. I am going to be posting the round-by-round results online, and will provide the link.

bump. Wouldn't mind a national motto either.

I apologize.  I thought that this was already posted.  I will see to that tonight, and no later.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 21, 2005, 02:15:28 pm
Wouldn't mind a national motto either.

Coming right up.

Also, voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) have been updated.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 21, 2005, 04:05:15 pm
As chosen by popular ballot and certified by the Department of Forum Affairs, the national motto of Atlasia shall be Ad astra per aspera.

Round-by-round calculations may be found in the December 2005 Federal voting booth (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=32709.new#new).


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 21, 2005, 10:00:32 pm
Congratulations to both of you for conducting the count for the national symbols.  I didn't envy your task. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 22, 2005, 05:28:01 am
the mammal count appears still to be missing.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 22, 2005, 08:25:41 pm
the mammal count appears still to be missing.

Yates will post that soon.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 22, 2005, 08:33:07 pm
The following voters were recently removed from the voter rolls:

AndrewBerger
CARLHAYDEN
Cashcow
Fritz
KillerPollo
PAdem
Robert Goldwater
Straha
Ted Stevens
WBecker
WI_Dem

While some of these are long gone, others are still active, just not in fantasy politics.  I believe it is in the best interest of Atlasia that we make an attempt to return some of these voters to being active here.

Might I suggest that the "buddies" of some of voters (where applicable) as well as the Governors of the regions in which they were registered, respectively, try to make contact with these voters just to check on them, and perhaps encourage them to return?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Yates on December 22, 2005, 08:40:17 pm
the mammal count appears still to be missing.

I have announced that the winner is the American Black Bear

As for the detailed count, I have, apologetically, forgotten to post that.  It will be posted tonight.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 23, 2005, 10:38:01 am
the mammal count appears still to be missing.

I have announced that the winner is the American Black Bear.
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I was referring to the detailed count.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 23, 2005, 02:13:24 pm
the mammal count appears still to be missing.
I have announced that the winner is the American Black Bear
Yeah, I'm aware of that. I was referring to the detailed count.

Yates is working on it.  It seems kind of pointless now, since Jake is challenging the election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on December 27, 2005, 01:51:34 am
The following voters were recently removed from the voter rolls:

AndrewBerger
CARLHAYDEN
Cashcow
Fritz
KillerPollo
PAdem
Robert Goldwater
Straha
Ted Stevens
WBecker
WI_Dem

While some of these are long gone, others are still active, just not in fantasy politics.  I believe it is in the best interest of Atlasia that we make an attempt to return some of these voters to being active here.

Might I suggest that the "buddies" of some of voters (where applicable) as well as the Governors of the regions in which they were registered, respectively, try to make contact with these voters just to check on them, and perhaps encourage them to return?

In the interest of public disclosure:  Yesterday I contacted each of these voters by PM informing them of their status and instructng them how to re-register.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on December 27, 2005, 02:04:05 am
I think we must acknowledge the loss of Fritz, Cashcow, Bob, and PADem. Andrew has said he lost interest, while Carl never was active at all. The rest are new and (unsuprisingly) have left already.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 04, 2006, 12:29:33 am
I'm assuming King's vote doesn't count.  He's a dormant voter, and wasn't a resident of the Pacific when he left.

Per your executive order, Mr. President, the voter is permitted to become active again upon his own declaration, is he not?  I think King should be thus once again be considered an active voter, and as such he has the right to change states.  Let me know what you think.

But I suppose it is ultimately up to the Governor of the Pacific.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on January 04, 2006, 12:41:08 pm
The status of deregistrations is and remains a legal mess, and it was certainly not helped by the creation of this new "dormancy" provision.

I once again (this has to be about the fifth time I've done this) express my view to the Senate that it should take URGENT AND IMMEDIATE action upon this matter.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 04, 2006, 05:05:19 pm
Candidates Recognized by the Department of Forum Affairs for Appearance on the Ballot in the February 2006 Federal Elections (to Date)

This election will commence at midnight on Friday, February 17 and conclude at 11:59:59pm on Sunday, February 19.  (All times Eastern).  Declarations of candidacy must be made at least seven days before the beginning of the election, or by Thursday, February 9.

President/Vice President
Ilikeverin/PBrunsel
Jesus/
John Ford/True Independent
Ebowed/Q

Senate
Mideast
Emsworth
MasterJedi

Midwest
Ernest
Lewis Trondheim
Yates

Northeast
Brian from Family Guy
Colin Wixted

Pacific
Jesus

Southeast
Brandon H
Brandon W
Josh22


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 05, 2006, 09:36:13 pm
All voter registration records are intact, so please do not re-register unless you're actually changing something about your registration.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 06, 2006, 03:45:47 am
Q,

You may want to correct the voter rolls.  2006 registrations are listed as January 2005.

You're doing a great job.  Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on January 11, 2006, 04:29:08 pm
Q - Can I see the current District map?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 11, 2006, 05:36:25 pm
Q - Can I see the current District map?

Is this (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Districts) what you're looking for, Jake?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on January 11, 2006, 11:19:57 pm
Yes. Many thanks


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on January 12, 2006, 07:04:12 am
Just to let everyone know, I'll be gone from Friday to Monday on Forensics trip in Florida.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on January 22, 2006, 09:13:40 pm
The voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) have been updated.

Are they updated on the wiki?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on January 22, 2006, 09:26:52 pm
I just did the voter rolls by name on the Wiki, but have not done region or party or anything else.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on January 26, 2006, 09:27:04 am
Mr Secretary,

I am asking this question simply to allow everybody to be crystal clear about the effect of the Deregistration Act, and I am also doing it to establish some idea of the sort of precedents you are creating for its implementation. I am not actually questioning the decision you have taken.

Have you counted Clay's previous request for deregistration as having been honoured as stipulated by Clause 5 of the Act? This seems to the most reasonable interpretation that I can see on your removing him in the latest update.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on January 26, 2006, 03:32:46 pm
I didn't want to created another thread, so here you go:

I will be gone this weekend as I am going with my family on a ski trip to Snowshoe, West Virginia.  Also, I must apoligize for my relative inactivity this past week, I was consumed with studying for finals.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 26, 2006, 10:11:44 pm
Have you counted Clay's previous request for deregistration as having been honoured as stipulated by Clause 5 of the Act? This seems to the most reasonable interpretation that I can see on your removing him in the latest update.

Yes, that is correct.

I appreciate your concern, as always, Mr. Chief Justice.  The importance of precedent is often overlooked here, especially at the time it is established.

Please let me know if you think more clarification is warranted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 30, 2006, 02:35:54 pm
While the abrupt departure of Yates from Atlasia is of concern to me, as we don't know what has happened to him IRL, I am pleased to have found an extremely capable replacement for Deputy Secretary of Fourm Affairs, and that is MHS2002.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 30, 2006, 03:11:33 pm
Per the terms of Article I, Section 4 of the Constitution:

If a vacancy shall occur in a Class B Senate seat, then a special election shall be called to fill the remainder of the vacated term within one week of the vacancy occurring.  Such special election shall be held from midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Friday and shall conclude exactly 72 hours later.

A special election shall be held for the District 2 Senate seat, being vacated by Senator Al, beginning at midnight this Friday, February 3.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on January 30, 2006, 05:01:19 pm
Q,
I have noticed some of the notes in the Wiki and there is some confusion. If a voter misses two consecutive elections, the voter is removed from the rolls. If the reregister, are they New, or is New only used to refer to a brand new voter who has never registered before?
Thanks.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 30, 2006, 10:20:10 pm
If a voter misses two consecutive elections, the voter is removed from the rolls. If the reregister, are they New, or is New only used to refer to a brand new voter who has never registered before?

Thanks for the question, Mr. Attorney General.

I have been marking as "new" both brand-new voters as well as such prodigal voters as you have described.

I can't always know whether someone has been here before, especially during the time before I was active, making it impractical to try to recall such things, and furthermore, I take "new" to simply mean someone whose registration was not previously current (i.e. not on the voter rolls), so I think it would be problematic to give prodigals special protection not afforded to newbies when determining whether to remove them.  Please let me know if you disagree with how I've been handling this.

Which notes on the Wiki are confusing?  I don't update that site; I just use the Excel voter roll files.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on January 31, 2006, 10:04:02 am
I seem to recall that, when the rule was introduced, it was meant to apply only to the genuinely new. I may be mistaken though; might make sense to look at the constitutional convention proceedings if they still exist.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on January 31, 2006, 10:10:07 am
I seem to recall that, when the rule was introduced, it was meant to apply only to the genuinely new. I may be mistaken though; might make sense to look at the constitutional convention proceedings if they still exist.

They don't exist because that forum software crashed and I don't think King bothered to retrieve the data. Nonetheless, that was originally intended.

You can however read some of my recent ranting on the subject here (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=25571.msg669655#msg669655)

There is actually a complete registration history on the wiki if Q wants to know whether people have been previously registered.

Link (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registration_History_%28Section_1%29)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 31, 2006, 03:34:36 pm
Thank you for the link, Peter.  Is it accurate to say that the law does not address whether prodigals should be considered as "new"?  I don't believe the Department's current policy violates the clause you cited.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on January 31, 2006, 04:13:16 pm
Article V, Section 2, Clause 6
Any registered voter who fails to vote in elections for four months, and any first-time registrant who fails to vote in the first scheduled Senate elections for which he is qualified to vote shall have his registration no longer considered valid. This clause shall not be construed to deny a forum user the right to register anew.

I suppose you might be able to twist the meaning of "first-time registrant" to your present policy, though I wouldn't recommend it.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on January 31, 2006, 10:26:27 pm
My apologies for the delay, but I will happily confirm MHS2002 to the position of Deputy SoFA.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on January 31, 2006, 11:12:56 pm
Excellent.  I am very pleased that MHS2002 may now take office.

Mr. President, what is your opinion on the issue of prodigal voters that peter and I have been discussing?  I will defer to your opinion on this matter.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on February 01, 2006, 12:19:08 am
Which notes on the Wiki are confusing?  I don't update that site; I just use the Excel voter roll files.

When editting a Wiki page you can put on note on what was editted. View Josh22 for example who missed two consecutive elections and then returned. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php?title=Template:Voter_Josh22&action=history Notice the comments by Peter and Ebowed.

And yes, the Excel files are the official records. Several of us try to keep the Wiki up to date. But it is usually behind. Would you mind if I add a link to your files from the Wiki page noting the that the Wiki is unofficial and only your records are official (and change it whenever a new SoFA takes over)?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 01, 2006, 12:27:49 am
Would you mind if I add a link to your files from the Wiki page noting the that the Wiki is unofficial and only your records are official (and change it whenever a new SoFA takes over)?

Not at all.  That would make a lot of sense.

And regarding those conflicting notes: Peter's is his own interpretation of the law; Ebowed',s is his own.  I'd wait to hear from the President before deciding for sure how to treat such registrations.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 02, 2006, 06:05:55 pm
The voter rolls (http://www.geocities.com/selottery/voterrolls.xls) have been updated.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 06, 2006, 05:24:40 am
The District 2 Senate Special Election (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=35837.0) has ended in a tie between the candidates Supersoulty and Peter Bell.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 07, 2006, 12:37:56 am
I originally posted this more than a month ago, but I'm bumping this here.  Reminder about declaration deadline below.

Candidates Recognized by the Department of Forum Affairs for Appearance on the Ballot in the February 2006 Federal Elections (to Date)

This election will commence at midnight on Friday, February 17 and conclude at 11:59:59pm on Sunday, February 19 (all times Eastern).  Declarations of candidacy must be made at least seven days before the beginning of the election, or by Thursday, February 9.

President/Vice President
Ilikeverin/PBrunsel
Jesus/
John Ford/True Independent
Ebowed/Q

Senate
Mideast
Emsworth
MasterJedi

Midwest
Ernest
Lewis Trondheim
Yates

Northeast
Brian from Family Guy
Colin Wixted

Pacific
Jesus
WMS

Southeast
Bacon King
Brandon H
Htmldon
Jake
Josh22


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Bdub on February 07, 2006, 10:44:01 am
I thought Jake was a candidate for the Southeast senate seat.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on February 07, 2006, 10:55:30 am
I thought Jake was a candidate for the Southeast senate seat.

Jake is the incumbent, but he has not yet officially declared his intentions to seek re-election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 07, 2006, 03:46:02 pm
Quote from: Unified Electoral Code Act
Section 3: Run-off Elections

If all remaining candidates shall have the same number of highest preference votes, then the following procedure shall be used to break the tie:

   1. A runoff shall be held beginning at midnight Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday after the election, and ending 72 hours thereafter.
   2. Those candidates who have tied shall be automatically entered onto the ballot. No other candidacies shall be allowed.
   3. Voters shall only be able to cast a vote for one candidate.
   4. If any candidate shall gain a majority of the votes cast, then he shall be declared winner.

I would like to solicit opinions as to why the District 2 Senate Special Election should not proceed to a runoff, even if one of the candidates has since conceded.

Some people have acted with presumption lately; I would prefer to exercise prudence.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on February 07, 2006, 04:17:39 pm
I took Supersoulty's concession as having legal effect as since one is able to concede one's victory over another, it stands to reason that one should be able to concede one's tie with another.

I hardly see my action as presumptive - it is quite clear what Supersoulty intended. Regardless, it is ultimately your decision to hold the runoff or not, and I will have no option to accept your decision and then take appropriate action.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 07, 2006, 06:58:06 pm
I suppose that since the law is sufficiently unclear, I will follow the lead of the judge who allowed Frank Lautenberg onto the ballot in New Jersey in 2002, saying that the people's right to representation in the Senate outweighed certain legal technicalities.  Dubious as that tenet may be, I believe that the need for representation of the Second District in the Senate is of greater concern that would be an attempt to determine how the relevant election laws would actually apply in this case, which seems quite unclear and probably cannot be determined with certainty.  Furthermore, I hope that the next president will set as a goal the revision of some of the less clear sections of the election laws so that the winner of an election is not subject to interpretation.

Thus:
With the concession of the candidate Supersoulty, the candidate Peter Bell is the only active candidate with the highest number of first preferences, and is thereby elected.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 09, 2006, 01:52:29 am
Reminder: Today is the last day for qualify for ballot status as a candidate in the February federal elections.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on February 09, 2006, 04:54:15 pm
I'm going to be in New York with my family this weekend.  I might have some internet access, might not, whatever.  I just didn't want to start another thread, so just to let everyone know.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 10, 2006, 12:48:14 am
The deadline for announcements of candidacy has passed.  Thus the following is likely to be the final ballot for the February 2006 federal elections.

Candidates Recognized by the Department of Forum Affairs for Appearance on the Ballot in the February 2006 Federal Elections

This election will commence at midnight on Friday, February 17 and conclude at 11:59:59pm on Sunday, February 19 (all times Eastern).

President/Vice President
Ilikeverin/PBrunsel
John Ford/True Democrat
Ebowed/Q

Senate
Mideast
MasterJedi

Midwest
Ernest
Lewis Trondheim
Yates

Northeast
Brian from Family Guy
Colin Wixted

Pacific
Jesus
WMS

Southeast
Bacon King
Brandon H
Htmldon
Jake


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on February 15, 2006, 10:17:24 pm
Is there an absentee ballot box, I may need to post in there.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 15, 2006, 11:19:24 pm
Is there an absentee ballot box, I may need to post in there.

I'm currently constructing it, but you may go ahead and post your ballot there if you wish.  It's been posted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on February 15, 2006, 11:58:13 pm
Article VIII, Section 2, clause 4, one of the "carry overs."

"The procedure for absentee voting will be to make such declaration publicly to the Department of Forum Affairs, and then for the absentee voter to email their vote to the Chief Justice, Secretary of Forum Affairs and Attorney General."

The constitution also gives the Senate the authority to designate a manner of absentee voting, but I'm not seeing anything specific besides this "carry over."


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 16, 2006, 12:03:05 am
Article VIII, Section 2, clause 4, one of the "carry overs."

"The procedure for absentee voting will be to make such declaration publicly to the Department of Forum Affairs, and then for the absentee voter to email their vote to the Chief Justice, Secretary of Forum Affairs and Attorney General."

The constitution also gives the Senate the authority to designate a manner of absentee voting, but I'm not seeing anything specific besides this "carry over."

Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice.  I wasn't sure of the procedure, since ILV had made an absentee ballot voting booth for October's elections.

Anyone wishing to cast an absentee ballot should follow these steps, as outlined above.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on February 16, 2006, 07:55:06 am
Article VIII, Section 2, clause 4, one of the "carry overs."

"The procedure for absentee voting will be to make such declaration publicly to the Department of Forum Affairs, and then for the absentee voter to email their vote to the Chief Justice, Secretary of Forum Affairs and Attorney General."

The constitution also gives the Senate the authority to designate a manner of absentee voting, but I'm not seeing anything specific besides this "carry over."

Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice.  I wasn't sure of the procedure, since ILV had made an absentee ballot voting booth for October's elections.

Bah, no one else had ever done it that way ;)

Heck, I remember people whining at me for not starting an absentee ballot voting booth in July.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 02:52:11 am
Just to clear up any confusion, the voter Everett's ballot for Pacific Senator is valid as cast, as there is no law stating that a voter must be registered in the region 10 days before being able to vote in that region's elections; rather that that a voter must be registered (in general) 10 days before an election, a require that Everett did meet.  Therefore let there be no further issues surrounding that voter's ballot.

Furthermore, no employee of this Department ever suggested that this citizen's vote for President should not count; that is simply a lie, as are many of the other allegations made against the Secretary of Forum Affairs by one individual in particular.

Such insults could not be further from the truth.  Enforcing the law is my primary concern, obviously moreso than my election campaign.  I have taken my job as SoFA very seriously.  I have tried to do a good job and follow the law to the letter, no matter who it hurt or helped politically.

I hope the people of Atlasia will recognize this.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 04:47:44 pm
Just to clear up any confusion, the voter Everett's ballot for Pacific Senator is valid as cast, as there is no law stating that a voter must be registered in the region 10 days before being able to vote in that region's elections; rather that that a voter must be registered (in general) 10 days before an election, a require that Everett did meet.  Therefore let there be no further issues surrounding that voter's ballot.

Furthermore, no employee of this Department ever suggested that this citizen's vote for President should not count; that is simply a lie, as are many of the other allegations made against the Secretary of Forum Affairs by one individual in particular.

Such insults could not be further from the truth.  Enforcing the law is my primary concern, obviously moreso than my election campaign.  I have taken my job as SoFA very seriously.  I have tried to do a good job and follow the law to the letter, no matter who it hurt or helped politically.

I hope the people of Atlasia will recognize this.

Bullsh**t.

As I posted in the other thread, my vote for BRTD for Senate a few months ago wasn't counted for the same reason that Everett's vote shouldn't be counted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 05:02:09 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 05:02:41 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?

I registed in MN less than 10 days before the election, voted for BRTD in the Senate race, and it wasn't counted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 05:04:00 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?
I registed in MN less than 10 days before the election, voted for BRTD in the Senate race, and it wasn't counted.

Was that your first registration, or had you moved to MN from somewhere else?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Emsworth on February 19, 2006, 05:04:21 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?

I registed in MN less than 10 days before the election, voted for BRTD in the Senate race, and it wasn't counted.
The Republicans were in power then, and they wanted to disenfranchise you.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 05:05:51 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?
I registed in MN less than 10 days before the election, voted for BRTD in the Senate race, and it wasn't counted.

Was that your first registration, or had you moved to MN from somewhere else?

I had moved. 



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 05:12:07 pm
I wasn't here then, jfern.  Could you please explain your position?
I registed in MN less than 10 days before the election, voted for BRTD in the Senate race, and it wasn't counted.
Was that your first registration, or had you moved to MN from somewhere else?
I had moved.

Unless the laws have changed since them, then I would think that those who disenfranchised you did so illegally.

I don't want to break the law now as they may have back then.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 05:30:34 pm
Everett's vote had better not count.

Here's the law

Quote
In order to vote or be a canidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter on the tenth day before that election.
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Article_V_of_the_Second_Constitution

that was cited to deny my registration

Here it is:


from taking effect in time to have my vote for BRTD

1. BRTD
2. Dean
3. Hobbes
4. MasterJedi

be counted.

The votes of Jfren, Mr. Hobbes and NixonNow should be rejected, and those who voted Mr. Hobbes first should have their votes bumped up.

That's what more than likely going to happen.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 07:43:35 pm
Everett's vote had better not count.

Here's the law
Quote
In order to vote or be a canidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter on the tenth day before that election.

And Everett was a registered voter on the 10th day before the election.  The law doesn't say that a voter has to be registered in a particular region 10 days in advance.

Had I been SoFA last May, I would have counted your vote.  You were illegally disenfranchised, jfern, and so you should not want more people to be victimized as you were.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 07:51:17 pm
Everett's vote had better not count.

Here's the law
Quote
In order to vote or be a canidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter on the tenth day before that election.

And Everett was a registered voter on the 10th day before the election.  The law doesn't say that a voter has to be registered in a particular region 10 days in advance.

Had I been SoFA last May, I would have counted your vote.  You were illegally disenfranchised, jfern, and so you should not want more people to be victimized as you were.

I see. So only Democrat's votes don't get counted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 09:26:49 pm
I have asked Deputy Secretary MHS2002 to certify the presidential election results, as I must recuse myself as to avoid accusations of conflict of interest.  I feel that I have been nothing but neutral to date, but it seems that some people would disagree with me.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 10:11:31 pm
I take this to court. Otherwise my vote will get thrown out again, since it's one law for Democrats and one law for Republicans. 

Oh, so if I was a Democrat (as though you have any accurate method of knowing what my actual political affiliation is, seeing that anyone with a brain should realise that my R-UK avatar is blatantly fake), you wouldn't be complaining about Q's decision? Even Jesus has not made any statements (not that I have seen) demanding that I be stripped of my voting rights.

To whoever else will start complaining about my voting rights - if you have a problem with me voting, then go back to pre-1920 or something. At this point, STFU or take this to court. It's your choose.

If you weren't mentally impaired, you'd see that there's a double standard here. Did I go bitching and whining when my vote wasn't counted? No. But now that people ignore the precedent when its someone elses votes, I'm pissed.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 10:31:04 pm
Did the rule just change in the last 2 months?

Is it too late to change states and vote in that region for the December elections?

You have to have been registered in the electoral division for ten days prior to the election in order to vote in the election.

I can't remember what day was Election Day, but if it's the 14th or later, then you're in the clear.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 10:55:25 pm
I take this to court. Otherwise my vote will get thrown out again, since it's one law for Democrats and one law for Republicans.

Woah there, jfern.  Your vote does count this time.

And look at my avatar.  I'm not discriminating against anyone.


there's a double standard here. Did I go bitching and whining when my vote wasn't counted? No. But now that people ignore the precedent when its someone elses votes, I'm pissed.

You should be "pissed" at whoever was the SoFA back in May 2005 or whenever that was.  I won't follow precedent if that precedent was illegal!  The law trumps any precedent there may be.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 10:57:52 pm
Did the rule just change in the last 2 months?

Is it too late to change states and vote in that region for the December elections?

You have to have been registered in the electoral division for ten days prior to the election in order to vote in the election.

I can't remember what day was Election Day, but if it's the 14th or later, then you're in the clear.

No, the laws have not changed.  It's just that no one has actually bothered to read the law, it seems.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 11:01:05 pm
Did the rule just change in the last 2 months?

Is it too late to change states and vote in that region for the December elections?

You have to have been registered in the electoral division for ten days prior to the election in order to vote in the election.

I can't remember what day was Election Day, but if it's the 14th or later, then you're in the clear.

No, the laws have not changed.  It's just that no one has actually bothered to read the law, it seems.

They read the laws, and used them to not count my vote. I have the feeling if I screwed up again, my vote would not be counted. This is total bullsh**t. Obviously precedent doesn't matter, or you wouldn't be counting her vote, so what makes you so sure that this precedent will hold in the future?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 11:03:27 pm
Go ahead and take this to court, but I feel no obligation whatsoever to appear, nor defend myself against this illegal 'precedent'. If this goes to court, I shall leave it for Q to settle on my behalf.

Oh, by the way, I'm a Democrat now; does this mean that you will shut up?

You just don't get it. Consistency. It's very lacking here. You're being bitchy when your vote is being counted, despite precedent otherwise. I didn't complain at all at the time when my vote was counted, thinking that it was some sort of consistant rule.

If you had been informed, you would have realized that your vote wasn't supposed to count.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 11:05:47 pm
Jfern, I'm not going to do something illegal just because other people did illegal things in the past.

You were disenfranchised illegally last time; I really don't want to do that to Everett now.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Emsworth on February 19, 2006, 11:06:54 pm
Perhaps we can stop arguing about the issue in this thread. If anyone has any complaints, the Supreme Court can hear them after the election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 11:08:36 pm
Jfern, I'm not going to do something illegal just because other people did illegal things in the past.

You were disenfranchised illegally last time; I really don't want to do that to Everett now.

You can't just selectively ignore precedent.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 19, 2006, 11:13:40 pm
Jfern, I'm not going to do something illegal just because other people did illegal things in the past.

You were disenfranchised illegally last time; I really don't want to do that to Everett now.
You can't just selectively ignore precedent.

I absolutely can.  Illegal precedent will be ignored.  Legal precedent will in most instances be upheld.

You may bring a lawsuit in the "Government" board if you wish; please continue any discussion of this matter in a new thread on that board.  Thank you.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 19, 2006, 11:23:13 pm
Jfern, I'm not going to do something illegal just because other people did illegal things in the past.

You were disenfranchised illegally last time; I really don't want to do that to Everett now.
You can't just selectively ignore precedent.

I absolutely can.  Illegal precedent will be ignored.  Legal precedent will in most instances be upheld.

You may bring a lawsuit in the "Government" board if you wish; please continue any discussion of this matter in a new thread on that board.  Thank you.

Funny, no one seemed to thing that it was illegal when used against me. Everyone seemed to agree that it was the reasonable course of action.  You   are legislating from the secretaryship with your ruling on Everett.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: WMS on February 20, 2006, 06:45:50 pm
Jfern, I'm not going to do something illegal just because other people did illegal things in the past.

You were disenfranchised illegally last time; I really don't want to do that to Everett now.
You can't just selectively ignore precedent.

I absolutely can.  Illegal precedent will be ignored.  Legal precedent will in most instances be upheld.

You may bring a lawsuit in the "Government" board if you wish; please continue any discussion of this matter in a new thread on that board.  Thank you.

Funny, no one seemed to thing that it was illegal when used against me. Everyone seemed to agree that it was the reasonable course of action.  You   are legislating from the secretaryship with your ruling on Everett.

Give it a rest, Ferny. Q is absolutely correct - he and I worked hard at figuring out what the law said on this issue. You can take this to the ASC is you like, but you're going to lose - law trumps precedent, especially illegal precedent.

I'm sorry your vote was illegally thrown out in that previous election, but you are acting like a dick in insisting that Everett's vote also be illegally thrown out. THERE IS NO RULE SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED IN A PARTICULAR REGION TEN DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION TO VOTE IN IT! They were wrong when they used it against your vote, and you're wrong now in trying to use it against Everett's vote. Show some goddamn maturity. >:(


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on February 21, 2006, 09:02:16 pm
Per
Quote from:  The Miscellany Act, Section 1
The Census shall be taken at noon Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday of March, July and November of each year.

The March 2006 Federal Census shall be taken on Friday, March 3, at noon EST and released soon thereafter.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: jokerman on February 22, 2006, 02:15:31 pm
Only voters that voted in the last federal election count in the census, or at least the one used to determine senate districts.

The phrase is, in the constitution "Voters who voted in the last federal election."


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on March 03, 2006, 12:24:31 pm
The results of the March 2006 Atlasian Census stand as follows:

()


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: WMS on March 03, 2006, 02:29:55 pm
The results of the March 2006 Atlasian Census stand as follows:

()

Wow, the West Coast is completely cut off from the rest of Atlasia. :o


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 09, 2006, 07:55:38 pm
A bit early perhaps, but since I have an updated voter roll (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) to test out, I'm jumping things a bit before Q gavels the nomination vote to a close.  The new voter roll has a few differences besides simple updates from the last.  The biggest one is that rather than the Microsoft *.xls format, It's in the Open Document *.ods format.  Let me know if that causes accessibility problems with antiquated closed source software.  I can save in other formats, but the file won't be anywhere near as small.  Also let me know if you'd rather if I deleted the macro before upoading it next.  All it does is sort the data in the "By *" sheets.  To the existing By District, By Region, and By Party sheets, I added a By State sheet.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 10, 2006, 09:26:43 am
Since I have been informed that in the opinion of the Presiding Officer of the Senate, no vacancy will be created in District 4 when Bono becomes Secretary of the Treasury, I have no plans to hold a special election.

I have chosen to abandon the star system for determining when registrations lapse and instead to institute a system that uses the actual date of the last election voted in, regardless of whether it be a regular or special election.

I also plan on asking the Attorney General whether or not Regional elections sould be counted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on March 11, 2006, 07:14:19 am
A bit early perhaps, but since I have an updated voter roll (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) to test out, I'm jumping things a bit before Q gavels the nomination vote to a close.  The new voter roll has a few differences besides simple updates from the last.  The biggest one is that rather than the Microsoft *.xls format, It's in the Open Document *.ods format.  Let me know if that causes accessibility problems with antiquated closed source software.  I can save in other formats, but the file won't be anywhere near as small.  Also let me know if you'd rather if I deleted the macro before upoading it next.  All it does is sort the data in the "By *" sheets.  To the existing By District, By Region, and By Party sheets, I added a By State sheet.

Can someone tell me what program(s) can be used to open the rolls?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on March 11, 2006, 07:24:17 am
The file extension ".ods" appears to be linked (http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=ods&Search=Search) to OpenOffice (http://openoffice.org), a free open-source version of Microsoft Office.  Given that not that many people have OpenOffice, and given that it wouldn't exactly be a good idea to force everyone to download it just to look at the file, it might be a good idea to save it in a more accessable format.  Personally, if it was me and I had my own web server, I would go with simply HTML, as that both is just a text file and requires absolutely no external software that people might not have.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on March 11, 2006, 07:26:58 am
The file extension ".ods" appears to be linked (http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=ods&Search=Search) to OpenOffice (http://openoffice.org), a free open-source version of Microsoft Office.  Given that not that many people have OpenOffice, and given that it wouldn't exactly be a good idea to force everyone to download it just to look at the file, it might be a good idea to save it in a more accessable format.  Personally, if it was me and I had my own web server, I would go with simply HTML, as that both is just a text file and requires absolutely no external software that people might not have.

Thanks Gabu. :)
FTR, I won't be able to access the voter rolls this way.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 11, 2006, 09:45:33 am
Actually it's not an open source version of Micro$oft Office, tho it is an office suite.  I would be surprised if the next version of Microsoft Office does not support the format since several governments are mandating that any software they buy be able to support open standard document formats.  However that will be then and this is now.

<voterrolls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods)> *.ods (59K)
<voterrolls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls)> *.xls (204K)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: afleitch on March 11, 2006, 11:20:51 am
May I just say OpenOffice is a great tool :) I'm glad the files were made avaliable in that format.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on March 11, 2006, 01:18:35 pm
Some brilliant changes, Mr. Secretary!  I love all the new features and data.  Very nice. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on March 11, 2006, 07:53:15 pm
Actually it's not an open source version of Micro$oft Office

Well, it does basically all the same things that you get in Microsoft Office, if I'm not mistaken.  That's what I meant, not that it's an exact duplicate.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Colin on March 11, 2006, 10:03:04 pm
Wow, just excellent Ernest. Truely the best voter list I have yet seen come out of this office.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 11, 2006, 10:56:35 pm
Wow, just excellent Ernest. Truely the best voter list I have yet seen come out of this office.

I thank for your praise, but I think it needs improvement, and the improvement it needs most is to be longer. ;)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 22, 2006, 01:28:06 pm
Voter Rolls have been updated.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on March 22, 2006, 10:21:46 pm
Quick question, since I can't vote for the next six months in federal elections, does that mean I will be kicked off the voter rolls?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: jokerman on March 22, 2006, 10:23:42 pm
Quick question, since I can't vote for the next six months in federal elections, does that mean I will be kicked off the voter rolls?
60 Days=Apx. 2 Months.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 22, 2006, 11:11:46 pm
Quick question, since I can't vote for the next six months in federal elections, does that mean I will be kicked off the voter rolls?
60 Days not 6 months.

Even if it were 6 months it would be debatable.  One could argue you won't have failed to vote in any elections, because you were not eligible to vote in any, hence you won't be triggering the Article V Section 2 Clause 6 deregistration obligation for failing to vote.  Depends on how that clause is interepreted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 24, 2006, 06:04:49 pm
As per President Ebowed',s executive order (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=37286.msg852841#msg852841), The registration of True Democrat in Puerto Rico is revoked and he is considered to be registered in Washington.  The Department of Forum Affairs will not be accepting any further attempts to register in Puerto Rico.

In a bit of unrelated news, just to clear up some confusuion on the matter, MHS2002 is still Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs.  I never asked for his resignation when I took office as Secretary, and he has indicated that he is willing to continue serving in that post.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on March 25, 2006, 12:15:02 am
In a bit of unrelated news, just to clear up some confusuion on the matter, MHS2002 is still Deputy Secretary of Forum Affairs.  I never asked for his resignation when I took office as Secretary, and he has indicated that he is willing to continue serving in that post.

I'm glad to hear it. ;D


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 26, 2006, 08:24:47 pm
As per my authority under Article VIII Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution, I am declaring the following:

1. Persons wishing to be on the ballot as candidates for the Senate Election scheduled to be held from April 20 18:00 EST to April 23 18:00 EST shall, in a candidacy thread on the Atlas Fantasy Government forum that will be created for that purpose, post their intent to be a candidate between March 30 18:00 EST and April 13 18:00 EST.

2. Major parties (as defined by Article V Section 1 Clause 8 of the Constitution) shall have until April 19 18:00 EST to identify which, if any, candidates they wish themselves associated with. Such endorsements must be posted in taht same thread to be noticed by the Department.  In the event that a race has only one candidate who is a member of that party, then in the absence of an indication that another candidate or no candidate is endorsed in that race, the candidate will be assumed to be endorsed by that party.

3. Candidates listed on the ballot shall be listed with their State of registration, and with any party endorsements they have received.

4. In the event that law affecting the time of elections should be changed, the times above may be changed to maintain the deadlines of 21 days, 7 days, and 1 day before the elcetion specified above.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 27, 2006, 06:16:24 pm
As per my authority under Article VIII Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution and other relevant electoral law, I am declaring the following:

1. Persons wishing to be on the ballot as candidates for the Special Senate Election scheduled to be held from March 30 18:00 EST to April 2 18:00 EST shall, in a candidacy thread on the Atlas Fantasy Government forum that will be created for that purpose, post their intent to be a candidate no later than March 28 18:00 EST.

2. Major parties (as defined by Article V Section 1 Clause 8 of the Constitution) shall have until March 29 18:00 EST to identify which, if any, candidates they wish themselves associated with. Such endorsements must be posted in the thread referred to in section 1 to be noticed by the Department.  In the event that a race has only one candidate who is a member of that party, then in the absence of an indication that another candidate or no candidate is endorsed in that race, the candidate will be assumed to be endorsed by that party.

3. Candidates listed on the ballot shall be listed with their State of registration, and with any party endorsements they have received.


Title: Draft Candidate Regulations
Post by: True Federalist on March 27, 2006, 10:21:13 pm
I had thought I would have a bit more time to prepare these, but Texasgurl's abrupt resignation caused me to rush these a bit.  These are effectively the same rules I'd already announced for the special election and the upcoming Senate election, only gussied up a bit and made more general.

I'd especially like comments on how I've finessed the requrements for Presidential elections so as to reduce the departed running mate problem.  I'm taking advantage of the lack of any language in Article VIII Section 2 Clause 3 of the Second Constitution about the candidacy declaration deadline for election to the Vice Presidency to finesee the problem in a way that I think meets the letter of the law, but probably not its spirit, by moving the declaration deadlines for Vice Presidential candidates and Presidential tickets closer to the election than 7 days.



Candidate Regulations

DRAFT

Section 1. Controlling legislation.
   (a) It is the belief of the Secretary of Forum Affairs that the Constitutional and legislative provisions listed in this subsection are all of the controlling legislation for the candidacy process.
      (1) Article I Section 4 Clause 6 Sentence 1 states:
      "The Senate shall have necessary power to determine regulations for the procedure of and the form of Senate elections and shall have necessary power to determine a procedure for declaration of candidacy for such elections."
      (2) Article II Section 2 Clause 2 Sentence 1 states:
      "The Senate shall have necessary power to determine regulations for the procedure of and the form of Presidential elections and shall have necessary power to determine a procedure for declaration of candidacy for such elections."
      (3) Article VIII Section 2 Clause 2 of the Second Constitution states:
      "The Department of Forum Affairs shall be responsible for administering all elections to the Presidency and the Senate."
      (4) Article VIII Section 2 Clause 3 of the Second Constitution states:
      "The candidacy declaration deadline for election to the Presidency or the Senate shall be seven days, except for special elections to the Senate, in which case the candidacy declaration deadline shall be two days."
      (5) Article VIII Section 5 Clause 5 of the Second Constitution states:
      "The Senate shall have appropriate power via legislation to repeal or amend anything in this Section."
      (6) Section 1 Clause 5 of the Unified Electoral Code Act (F.L. 8-9) states:
      "In order for write-in votes for a candidate to qualify as countable votes, the person written-in must formally accept the write-in candidacy before the end of voting in the given election."
      (7) Section 5 Clause 2 of the Unified Electoral Code Act (F.L. 8-9) states:
      "None of the candidates defeated by the None of the Above option in the original may be declared candidates in the new election. However, a voter may still write-in any such candidate."
      (8) Section 5 Clause 3 of the Unified Electoral Code Act (F.L. 8-9) states:
      "The candidacy declaration deadline for the new election shall be the same as for special elections."
   (b) It is the intent of the Secretary of Forum Affairs that these regulations be reasonable rules for the candidacy process that are within the scope of the Constitutional and legislative provisions listed in subsection (a).

DRAFT

Section 2. Declaration Thread.
   (a) The Department of Forum Affairs shall open a thread in the Atlas Fantasy Government board for handling all declarations by candidates and parties concerning the election. The thread shall remain open until the end of the election including any runoff election resulting from the election.
   (b) In the case of a regular election the thread shall be opened 21 days before the start of the election.
   (c) In the case of a special election the thread shall be opened as soon as the need for a special election is recognized by the Department of Forum Affairs.

DRAFT

Section 3. Candidate Declarations.
   (a) Senate candidates who declare their intent to run for office before the deadline given in Article VIII Section 2 Clause 3 of the Second Constitution shall be listed on the ballot.
   (b) Vice Presidential candidates who declare their intent to run for office before 72 hours prior to the election may appear on one or more Presidential tickets listed on the ballot if selected by a Presidential candidate as a running mate.
   (c) Presidential candidates who declare their intent to run for office before seven days prior to the start of the election may appear on one or more Presidential tickets if a Vice Presidential candidate selected by the Presidential candidate agrees to appear on such a ticket with the Presidential Candidate.
   (d) Presidential tickets must be declared at least 48 hours prior to the start of the election to appear on the ballot. Such declarations may be retracted no later than 48 hours prior to the start of the election.
   (e) Candidates who retract their candidacy before the deadline for declaring their candidacy shall not appear on the ballot.
   (f) Declarations of candidates who are ineligible for the office shall be null and void. Eligibility shall be determined as of the declaration deadline.

DRAFT

Section 4. Party Declarations.
   (a) Major parties shall have until 24 hours before the start of the election to indicate their preferences and have them listed on the ballot. These preferences may be altered no later than 24 hours before the start of the election.
   (b) In the event that a major party does not indicate its preference in a Senate race, then if there is only one member of that party in that Senate race, it shall be assumed to be the sole and first preference of the party in that race.
   (c) In the event that a major party does not indicate its preference in a Presidential election, then -
      (1) if there is a single ticket that consists of a Presidential candidate and a Vice Presidential candidate who are both members of that party, that ticket shall be assumed to be the sole and first preference of that party;
      (2) if there is no ticket as described as in paragraph (1), but there is a single ticket with a Presidential candidate who is a member of that party, that ticket shall be assumed to be the sole and first preference of that party; and
      (3) if there is no ticket with a Presidential candidate who is a member of that party, but there is a single ticket with a Vice Presidential candidate who is a member of that party, that ticket shall be assumed to be the sole and first preference of that party.
   (d) Parties may indicate a preference for a single declared candidate, an ordered list of such preferences, no preference, or support for the none of the above (NOTA) option in each race. A stated preference for an undeclared candidate or ticket shall be ignored, save that if part of a list of preferences, any remaining candidates or tickets that are declared shall be listed in the same order. If no preference for the party is determined under subsections (a), (b), or (c), then it will be assumed that the party had no prefernce.
   (e) For purposes of this section, major party status and the party membership of candidates shall be that as in effect 24 hours before the start of the election.

DRAFT

Section 5. Write-In Declarations.
   Candidates who declare their intent to run after the deadline specified in section 3 and before the end of the election, or their intent to accept office but not to run before the end of the election shall not be listed on the ballot, but such declaration shall be considered a formal acceptance of a write-in candidacy in accordance with Section 1 Clause 5 of the Unified Electoral Code Act (F.L. 8-9).

DRAFT

Section 6. Runoff elections.
   (a) Candidates advancing to a runoff election do not need to redeclare such candidacy, but may withdraw their candidacy as if they were a declared victor under section 9 of the Unified Electoral Code Act.
   (b) Major parties shall be able to specifiy preferences as per section 4. In the event that no preference is stated for the runoff election then their preferences for the election causing the runoff shall be used.

DRAFT

Section 7. NOTA elections.
   (a) Candidates who were on the ballot for an office in an election that triggers a new election for that office under section 5 of the Unified Electoral Code Act may not declare their intent to run for that office in the new election. This prohibition does not apply to any other office or election.
   (b) Candidates who were on the ballot for an office in an election that triggers a new election for that office under section 5 of the Unified Electoral Code Act shall be considered as having declared their intent to accept that office unless they declare otherwise.
   (c) Candidates who had write-in votes counted for an office in an election that triggers a new election for that office under section 5 of the Unified Electoral Code Act shall be considered as having declared their intent to run unless they declare otherwise.
   (d) Any eligible person shall have until 48 hours before such an election to declare thier intent to run or to accept office, save those barred from declaring their intent to run under subsection (a).
   (e) Major parties shall be able to specifiy preferences as per section 4.


Title: Re: Draft Candidate Regulations
Post by: Peter on March 28, 2006, 10:47:00 am
Section 2. Declaration Thread.
   (a) The Department of Forum Affairs shall open a thread in the Atlas Fantasy Government board for handling all declarations by candidates and parties concerning the election. The thread shall remain open until the end of the election including any runoff election resulting from the election.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this would require that all candidacy declarations must be made in the candidacy declaration thread would it not?


Title: Re: Draft Candidate Regulations
Post by: True Federalist on March 28, 2006, 07:15:48 pm
Section 2. Declaration Thread.
   (a) The Department of Forum Affairs shall open a thread in the Atlas Fantasy Government board for handling all declarations by candidates and parties concerning the election. The thread shall remain open until the end of the election including any runoff election resulting from the election.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this would require that all candidacy declarations must be made in the candidacy declaration thread would it not?

Yes, altho if I spot them elsewhere, I'll give a gentle nudge in the right direction.  I don't read every post in every thread, so this is intended more so that candidates can be assured that I will notice their declaration.   In the absence of any legislation to the contrary, I'd say that having such a requirement to appear on the ballot certainly falls within the carried over provision of Article VIII Section 2 Clause 2 placing election administration in the Department's hands.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on March 29, 2006, 08:17:12 pm
OK, what's going on with the party recommendation thing in the special election booth? I totally missed discussion of this change, but why is it OK for a party to have its recommendation in a thread, yet an individual's ballot would be invalidated for "campaigning in the booth?"

EDIT: OK, sorry, I see the announcement and Article V, sec. 1, clause 8. I missed it. Still looking for appropriate Senate legislation...


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 29, 2006, 09:55:05 pm
Article VIII Section 2 Clause 2 of the Constitution gives the SoFA extremely broad latitude on how to conduct elections except where the Senate lays down the law.

This is reinforced by Section 7 Clause 2 of the United Electoral Code which states: "The administrator of a voting booth shall be free to design the ballot as he or she sees fit, as long as the content of the ballot is clear and unambiguous."

In short, I feel allowing a major party to list its preferences on the ballot and to allow people to vote using the shorthand of a party line is within my discretion.  Not only that, but I think and hope it will strengthen our currently anemic parties.

I hadn't considered the campaigning aspect, so I double checked the relevant law.  Having this single candidate special election is proving a useful dry run to work out any problems.

I've modified the text in the ballot thread to avoid any potential problems with Section 1 of UECA by making it clear that using the party-line vote option is a way of specifying a list of preferences.

It basically comes down to how narrowly or broadly campaigning is to be construed.  I do not consider what I am doing as falling within the bounds of campaigning that would be prohibited by the first sentence of Article V Section 1 Clause 3.  If it were, it would mean that every single ballot cast would be campaigning, since the information provided is nothing except lists of preferences without any electioneering as to why that list should be favored.  If campaigning be construed that broadly, then constitutionally we would have to go to a secret ballot, since every open ballot would be campaigning.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on March 30, 2006, 12:22:26 am
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded!

Open Document Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) (70KiB)

PDF Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) (168KiB)

Excel Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) (221KiB)



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 10, 2006, 05:34:16 pm
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded again!
Barring a registration happening in the next 27 minutes this is the voter roll that will be used for the Senate elections.

Open Document Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) (73KiB)

PDF Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) (166KiB)

Excel Format (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) (221KiB)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on April 19, 2006, 04:07:24 pm
Could you explain the Senate ballot?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on April 19, 2006, 05:58:45 pm
May a person select "none of the above" parties in addition to choosing a Senate candidate, or does "none of the above" under "party" indicate that one wishes to vote for no candidate?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on April 19, 2006, 06:28:14 pm
Can we just use a normal ballot?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 19, 2006, 09:32:19 pm
You can vote either normally or with the party vote system.  If you do both, then the normal vote is the one that counts.  None of the Above underthe  party vote is a way to indicate that you wish to use that option for all the races you can vote in.  Granted, you'll only have one vote you can make in this election, but in two months there'll be two and perhaps someday we'll make some or all of the cabinet be elected posts.

Or rather you could have had the party vote system not been invalidated by the court.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 20, 2006, 07:17:36 pm
The vote of True Democrat in the Senate Election

Here's my vote again:

District 5
1. Mr. Hobbes
2.Gabu

This was a tough choice, and I like Gabu, but I just think we should give someone else a chance.

has been invalidated for campaigning since he is explaining why he voted.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on April 20, 2006, 07:20:04 pm
The vote of True Democrat in the Senate Election

Here's my vote again:

District 5
1. Mr. Hobbes
2.Gabu

This was a tough choice, and I like Gabu, but I just think we should give someone else a chance.

has been invalidated for campaigning since he is explaining why he voted.

Come on.  You want to talk about making the rules easier, this is not really campaigning.  I will be bringing this up in court when the election is over.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 22, 2006, 08:46:35 am
The vote of Brandon H

D4

1. WI: Mike Hawk
2. WI: Dave Naso
3. Dave Hawk
4. Mike Naso
5. All of the Above
6. Does it matter at this point?
7. Chuck Norris
8. Chuck Norris's Total Gym

would be invalidated for comedy, except there isn't any. ;)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Democratic Hawk on April 22, 2006, 08:52:07 am
The vote of Brandon H

D4

1. WI: Mike Hawk
2. WI: Dave Naso
3. Dave Hawk
4. Mike Naso
5. All of the Above
6. Does it matter at this point?
7. Chuck Norris
8. Chuck Norris's Total Gym

would be invalidated for comedy, except there isn't any. ;)

Is it valid?

Dave 'Hawk'


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 22, 2006, 06:29:20 pm
It's valid, altho most of the entries will ignored as they don't refer to registered voters residing in District 4.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 22, 2006, 06:35:55 pm
The vote of OWL in the Senate Election

District 3
For the record:
1. PBrunsel
2. ILV

has been invalidated for failure to meet the activity requirements.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on April 23, 2006, 06:19:52 am
The vote of OWL in the Senate Election

District 3
For the record:
1. PBrunsel
2. ILV

has been invalidated for failure to meet the activity requirements.


Given that this will have a knock-on effect as to the eligibility of OWL's Midwest vote, may I ask the SoFA for more detail on the reason for this invalidation please?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on April 23, 2006, 06:35:18 am
Given that this will have a knock-on effect as to the eligibility of OWL's Midwest vote, may I ask the SoFA for more detail on the reason for this invalidation please?

Current regulations require all voters to have made at least 25 posts in the 56 days before the election weekend.  OWL made a total of 7 during this time period.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on April 23, 2006, 06:44:53 am
Given that this will have a knock-on effect as to the eligibility of OWL's Midwest vote, may I ask the SoFA for more detail on the reason for this invalidation please?

Current regulations require all voters to have made at least 25 posts in the 56 days before the election weekend.  OWL made a total of 7 during this time period.

Thanks.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 23, 2006, 08:07:37 am
Given that this will have a knock-on effect as to the eligibility of OWL's Midwest vote, may I ask the SoFA for more detail on the reason for this invalidation please?

Current regulations require all voters to have made at least 25 posts in the 56 days before the election weekend.  OWL made a total of 7 during this time period.

I thank the Chair of the Senate Forum Affairs Committee for his timely constituent service. ;)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 23, 2006, 10:12:45 pm
The following voters with new registrations have been deregistered for failure to vote in the first Federal election that they were eligible to vote in:

Sara
Reagan Raider
Matthews
Foley
Andrew (not Andrew Berger)

The following voters with old registrations have been deregistered for failure to vote in any Federal election in the past four months.

Samstrom
Max Power
KucinichforPrez
King
Danwxman

All voters who wish to continue participating in Atlasian politics are free to reregister as a new voter if they wish.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on April 23, 2006, 10:52:04 pm
For the run off elections, will there be party endorsements on the official ballot? Will the ones from the previous ballot automatically carry over? If a party missed the deadline for this weekend's election may they resubmit for the special?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 23, 2006, 11:09:30 pm
I've decided to suspend placing party endorsements on the ballot.  The main reason I was interested in them was the party vote option, and without that, I'm not certain that it's worth putting either me or the parties thru the extra hoops involved.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ?????????? on April 25, 2006, 01:24:07 am
The vote of True Democrat in the Senate Election

Here's my vote again:

District 5
1. Mr. Hobbes
2.Gabu

This was a tough choice, and I like Gabu, but I just think we should give someone else a chance.

has been invalidated for campaigning since he is explaining why he voted.

No, he wasn't "campaigning"! What a dumb way to disenfranchise voters.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on April 25, 2006, 03:10:59 pm
The vote of True Democrat in the Senate Election

Here's my vote again:

District 5
1. Mr. Hobbes
2.Gabu

This was a tough choice, and I like Gabu, but I just think we should give someone else a chance.

has been invalidated for campaigning since he is explaining why he voted.

No, he wasn't "campaigning"! What a dumb way to disenfranchise voters.

The supreme court seemed to agree.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 26, 2006, 01:59:05 pm
Notice
It is the determination of the Department of Forum Affairs that the poll currently being held by the Vice President under the Electoral System Reform Act does not count as an "election" for the purposes of Article V Section 2 Clause 6 of the Constitution, since the occupant of an office is not being determined.  All this means is that voting in that poll does not count towards the requirement that you must vote in an election every four months or be deregistered.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on April 26, 2006, 05:16:21 pm
As a note to voters in conjuction with the above statement: The national plebescite on FPTP implementation will follow standard "election" rules, however.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on April 26, 2006, 05:35:26 pm
As a note to voters in conjuction with the above statement: The national plebescite on FPTP implementation will follow standard "election" rules, however.

Standard election rules would disqualify two aye votes.  Is that your intention?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Emsworth on April 26, 2006, 05:36:37 pm
Why do I have a feeling that this will end up in the Supreme Court?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on April 26, 2006, 05:37:42 pm
Why do I have a feeling that this will end up in the Supreme Court?

Because everything ends up in the Supreme Court.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on April 26, 2006, 05:45:01 pm
Why do I have a feeling that this will end up in the Supreme Court?

Because everything ends up in the Supreme Court.

Oddly enough, the October 2005 election didn't ???


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on April 26, 2006, 11:11:47 pm
Why do I have a feeling that this will end up in the Supreme Court?

Because everything ends up in the Supreme Court.

Oddly enough, the October 2005 election didn't ???

And it probably should have since the first certification was overturned but without a court order.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on April 27, 2006, 12:42:01 am
As a note to voters in conjuction with the above statement: The national plebescite on FPTP implementation will follow standard "election" rules, however.
Standard election rules would disqualify two aye votes.  Is that your intention?

No.  The intent would be to disqualify illegal votes, not votes that are cast to lead to a certain electoral outcome.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on April 27, 2006, 07:34:49 am
As a note to voters in conjuction with the above statement: The national plebescite on FPTP implementation will follow standard "election" rules, however.
Standard election rules would disqualify two aye votes.  Is that your intention?

No.  The intent would be to disqualify illegal votes, not votes that are cast to lead to a certain electoral outcome.

I in no way meant that you would disqualify votes based on which way they went, I was just wondering seeing how close this is, whether you would seek to throw those vtes out, which were aye votes.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 27, 2006, 08:31:24 pm
Voters are reminded that Federal runoff elections under the Unified Electoral Code Act do not use IRV.  You only need list your first preference.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on April 27, 2006, 10:00:18 pm
As a note to voters in conjuction with the above statement: The national plebescite on FPTP implementation will follow standard "election" rules, however.
Standard election rules would disqualify two aye votes.  Is that your intention?
No.  The intent would be to disqualify illegal votes, not votes that are cast to lead to a certain electoral outcome.
I in no way meant that you would disqualify votes based on which way they went, I was just wondering seeing how close this is, whether you would seek to throw those vtes out, which were aye votes.

Alright, that makes me feel better.  The answer to your original question, then, is yes.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 28, 2006, 10:12:46 am
Does KEmperor's vote count? I ask this because I thought he left fantasy politics and can't vote anymore. :P


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on April 28, 2006, 10:26:21 am
Does KEmperor's vote count? I ask this because I thought he left fantasy politics and can't vote anymore. :P

He's got enough posts.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on April 28, 2006, 10:27:09 am
Does KEmperor's vote count? I ask this because I thought he left fantasy politics and can't vote anymore. :P

He's got enough posts.

Oh I know that, I just thought I remembered him de-registering. I could be wrong though.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on April 28, 2006, 10:35:05 am
Does KEmperor's vote count? I ask this because I thought he left fantasy politics and can't vote anymore. :P

He's got enough posts.

Oh I know that, I just thought I remembered him de-registering. I could be wrong though.

He's still listed on the voter roll.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 28, 2006, 12:08:46 pm
John Ford deregistered back in February, Emperor only said he was leaving at that time, bur AFAIK he didn't deregister.  If he did, he did so in a manner that escaped the notice of this department.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: KEmperor on April 28, 2006, 01:00:16 pm
John Ford deregistered back in February, Emperor only said he was leaving at that time, bur AFAIK he didn't deregister.  If he did, he did so in a manner that escaped the notice of this department.

Never deregistered, just left. 


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 28, 2006, 01:34:34 pm
The vote of Defarge in the Senate Runoff Election


has been invalidated for failure to meet the activity requirements. Defarge had only 24 posts in the 56 day period from 18:00 EST on March 2, 2006 to 18:00 EST on April 27, 2006 EST.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on April 28, 2006, 04:06:55 pm
This angers me greatly. Oh well, not much I can do.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on April 30, 2006, 06:27:31 pm
The following voters with old registrations have been deregistered for failure to vote in any Federal election in the past four months.

Blerpiez
Liberty

All voters who wish to continue participating in Atlasian politics are free to reregister as a new voter if they wish.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Defarge on April 30, 2006, 08:55:28 pm
This angers me greatly. Oh well, not much I can do.
My apologies Earl.  Best of luck in however this ends.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 01, 2006, 12:16:06 am
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded!
  • voterrolls.ods (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) Open Document Spreadsheet (59K)
  • voterrolls.pdf (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) Portable Document Format (154K)
  • voterrolls.xls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) Excel Spreadsheet(200K)
Comrades, registrations are current as of Everett's change of party on Sunday.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on May 03, 2006, 09:06:20 pm
This angers me greatly. Oh well, not much I can do.
My apologies Earl.  Best of luck in however this ends.

No hard feelings Defarge.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 16, 2006, 06:23:28 pm
I have just now become aware of the Hawkeye situation.  (I've been busy, so I've only been checking the Fantasy boards lately.)

First of all, altho the counter for hawkeye says 48 posts, only 22 posts of Hawkeye remain undeleted (19 of which are around solely because they were the first post in a thread.  As such Hawkeye is no longer a valid voter, since he lacks the required 25 posts.

Second, tho it pains me to do so, I must ask that the  Attorney General bring a case against PBrunsel under the Voter Fraud Act. I'm not certain that he and Hawkeye are the same person, but there has been enough doubt raised that the resolution that a trial would bring on this point is desirable.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on May 16, 2006, 08:36:59 pm
I had originally advised Ernest that he should consult with the AG on this matter. My first thought was that the Attorney General should prosecute such a case, but on reflection, looking into law, and discussing with Justice Emsworth, I'm not sure that that is the case.

There is no statute that states who should prosecute. I do think it's pretty clear it is within the executive branch, but it is possible each department should prosecute violations of laws within its responsibility; thus it might be appropriate for the SoFA to prosecute this case.

As a member of another branch, and since there is no clear indication, I believe the President, in consultation with his cabinet, should make this determination as to who should prosecute, if a case is to be brought. If the President makes a determination that the Senate disagrees with, the Senate may craft legislation to answer this question for future instances.

This is my opinion, not a legal ruling, of course.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 24, 2006, 11:00:02 am
The new Candidate Declaration Thread is open for business, with the start of the declaration period bumed back from 21 to 28 days, I should have opened it last week, but since the new regulations didn't get promulgated until today, I don't think any real harm has been done.  I lefte Federal out of the thread's name, since I don't mind if the Regions choose to make use of it, but that's their call to make.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on May 25, 2006, 12:51:34 am
The voter rolls in the wiki have been updated up to the point of the spreadsheet provided by the SoFA (May 1). Main, State, and Party listings are up to date. I have editted states and parties as listed on the updated page of the spreadsheet. Various changes have been made to the wiki by others before they have made it to the spreadsheet. There have also been several new registrations since the spreadsheet was updated and unless it was done by someone else, these are not included on the wiki.

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 25, 2006, 08:33:51 pm
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded!
  • voterrolls.ods (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) Open Document Spreadsheet (60K)
  • voterrolls.pdf (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) Portable Document Format (153K)
  • voterrolls.xls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) Excel Spreadsheet(205K)
Delay has largely due entirely to the fact that it is a PITA for me to upload to my webspace and that there was no Federal reason to rush.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on May 25, 2006, 09:30:14 pm
I hope it didn't sound like I was rushing you. Sorry if it was. I know SoFA is one of the hardest jobs here.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 25, 2006, 10:37:53 pm
No problem.  I keep the rolls updated constantly, I just don't upload them after every change.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: Fritz on May 29, 2006, 05:42:36 pm
I am so touched that this thread was named for me.  :)

As you can see, however, I am not dead.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on May 29, 2006, 05:43:04 pm
Yay, Fritz is back! ;D


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on May 29, 2006, 05:54:42 pm
I am so touched that this thread was named for me.  :)

As you can see, however, I am not dead.

Wha?  Of course you are.  Go back in your coffin, ya 'ol relic.

Just kidding Fritz.  Hi! ;D :D ;D :D ;D *hughughughughug* ;D :D ;D :D ;D

(I believe *hughughug*s are new since you re-disappeared)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Alcon on May 30, 2006, 02:27:38 pm
I am so touched that this thread was named for me.  :)

As you can see, however, I am not dead.

Renamed accordingly. ;)

Welcome back from the dead!


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Fritz on May 31, 2006, 12:24:51 am
So, we're like having a party for me?  Cool!!!



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Q on May 31, 2006, 12:03:44 pm
Would it be advantageous for the SoFA to use the Wiki exclusively, rather than having two people to publish similar information in two different places?  I remember that I wasn't very good with wiki-writing, so I chose to stick with Excel, but it might be easier in the long run if at some point some SoFA could make the switch.

But nice work, Mr. Secretary and Mr. Attorney General.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on May 31, 2006, 01:38:35 pm
The ability to easily sort and update causes me to want to keep the information in a spreadsheet format, not Wiki format.

I have discovered I have made a small error.  I was thinking that the election would be the weekend of June 15-18, but it is actually June 22-25, since the third Thursday is not the second to last Thursday this June.  People have one extra week to campaign and declare.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on May 31, 2006, 02:20:17 pm
The ability to easily sort and update causes me to want to keep the information in a spreadsheet format, not Wiki format.

Exactly. Maybe future version of the wiki software will allow table sorting or something.

I was working on a web-based database, but never got a front end working. (That's when Joe was still President.)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on June 05, 2006, 03:22:33 pm
Hey, I just noticed I know Ernest's surname.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 05, 2006, 08:40:32 pm
It is wonderful that Joe Republic is back.  However, it has been four months since he last voted, and therefore I must announce that he in accordance with Article IV Section 2 Clause 6 of, he is officially deregistered as of today.

However, he still has plenty of time to reregister before the election if he wishes.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: MaC on June 08, 2006, 08:45:41 pm
Ernest, how long after one is inactive does one become inactivated?  Does it bar them from running from any office?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 08, 2006, 10:04:41 pm
four months after one's last vote, one is deregistered.  Reregistration after that is treated the same as a new registration, so you would need to be registered at least 10 days before an election to vote.  As long as one is registered and you meet the 100 or 250 post requirement for Senator or President respectively, you can run, even if you can't vote because of the 10 day rule.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 12, 2006, 07:04:01 pm
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded!
  • voterrolls.ods (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) Open Document Spreadsheet (61KiB)
  • voterrolls.pdf (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) Portable Document Format (155KiB)
  • voterrolls.xls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) Excel Spreadsheet (213KiB)
This list is current as of 8pmEDT today and so has everyone registered to vote in the election 10 days hence.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on June 15, 2006, 03:54:10 pm
Ernest, when will absentee voting begin and what is the process for it going to be? I will be out of town from the morning of the 18th to late on the 25th, and will need to vote prior to leaving.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 15, 2006, 04:33:24 pm
Ernest, when will absentee voting begin and what is the process for it going to be? I will be out of town from the morning of the 18th to late on the 25th, and will need to vote prior to leaving.
Absentee voting will be done in a thread in the Voting Booth and shall being as soon after 8pm EDT tonight as I can have the thread ready.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on June 15, 2006, 04:49:12 pm
Thanks Ernest.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 23, 2006, 01:01:19 am
The vote of Fritz in the June 2006 Regular Election

OFFICIAL BALLOT

President/Vice-President
1. Everett/TexasGurl
2. Ebowed/Q
3. AndrewBerger/King

Midwest Senate
1. BRTD

has been invalidated for failure to meet the activity requirements. Fritz had only 23 posts in the 56 day period from 20:00 EDT on April 27, 2006 to 20:00 EDT on June 22, 2006 EST.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 24, 2006, 11:36:08 am
The vote of Inks.LWC in the June 2006 Regular Election

OFFICAL BALLOT

President/Vice President
Ron Dubya (Texas) / Milk and Cereal (Michigan)

Senate

Mideast
MasterJedi (Wisconsin)

has been invalidated for failure to register 10 or more days prior to the start of the election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 24, 2006, 11:51:38 am
The vote of OWL in the June 2006 Regular Election

What a shame. Some fine candidates and I'm INACTIVE.

President/Vice President

1. Write-in: Supersoulty / WMS
2. Write-in: Everett / Texasgurl
3. True Democrat (Pennsylvania) / Supersoulty (Pennsylvania)
4. Andrew Berger (New York) / King (Alabama)
5. Ebowed (South Carolina) / Q (Georgia)
6. Ron Dubya (Texas) / Milk and Cereal (Michigan)


Senate

Midwest
1. Jas (Iowa)

has been invalidated for failure to meet the activity requirements. OWL had only 4 posts in the 56 day period from 20:00 EDT on April 27, 2006 to 20:00 EDT on June 22, 2006 EST.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on June 25, 2006, 07:06:47 pm
Again, I wish to be deregistered from Atlasia.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 25, 2006, 10:50:26 pm
The following voters with new registrations were not eligible to vote in the just concluded Federal regular election and are continued on the roles as having new registrations.

  • gumbiegirl007
  • Inks.LWC

he following voters with new registrations failed to vote in the just concluded Federal regular election and are deregistered.
  • Comrade Imes
  • Jacob
  • Max Power
  • Milk and Cereal

All other new registrants voted in the just concluded Federal regular election and now have activated registrations.

The following voters with activated registrations have failed to vote in a Federal election in the past four months and are deregistered.
  • Buckwheat
  • Erc
  • GM3PRP
  • J-Mann
  • John F. Kennedy
  • Nation
  • nini2287
  • Preorder Sheep Plushie
  • Progress
  • Siege40

The following voters have deregistered under The Deregistration Act
  • Jake
  • True Democrat

Voters that have been deregistered are free to reregister as a new voter at any time.  Such reregistrations are subject to the 60 day limit on changes in state of residence, as if they had never been deregistered.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on June 25, 2006, 11:24:57 pm
Best certification ever, Ernest. I have a question and by asking I don't mean to imply there's any issue; I just want to know.

When determinng a majority of preferences, in later rounds, are ballots where preferences have been exhausted included in the total number of ballots or are they removed? And, over time, have SoFAs been consistent on how to count exhausted ballots in determining majority?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: The love that set me free on June 26, 2006, 12:06:00 am
Good job Ernest. Kind of a nitpicky question: Is Al's re-registration valid as he did not list a state? Even though it's assumed he's just staying in West Virginia I always believed you need to list all three fields while registering.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 26, 2006, 12:06:36 am
I have been consistent and removed exhausted ballots and I believe other SoFAs have as well.  The requirement in the law is for "a majority of the highest preference votes" which implies that a ballot which has exhausted its preferenes is no longer counted.  Furthermore, the election law has no provision for what should happen if no candidate receives preferences on a majority of ballots. By the way, the issue is moot for this election since even if one were to take the opposite interpretation, jeruslaemcar5 still would have won the Northeast Senate seat with 11 preferences on 21 ballots in the 4th round of counting.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 26, 2006, 12:19:48 am
Good job Ernest. Kind of a nitpicky question: Is Al's re-registration valid as he did not list a state? Even though it's assumed he's just staying in West Virginia I always believed you need to list all three fields while registering.

Article V Section 2 Clause 1 states: "A person may become a registered voter if he has attained twenty-five posts at the forum. In registration, the person must state his name and State of fantasy residence; in addition, he may optionally state a political affiliation."

Thus when registering for the first time you must provide one's name and State.  The Constitution is silent on the question of what is required when changing one's registration and since the reason for requiring a State is so that voters can vote for the Senate, I see no reason to be picky about it.  Besides, even if I were picky about it, it would have no practical effect.  (Tho it could if the Senate ever gave the major parties some advantage under the law, as is within their power.)



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on June 26, 2006, 07:37:15 pm
(Tho it could if the Senate ever gave the major parties some advantage under the law, as is within their power.)

I was thinking about that as well, and the only real thing I could think of would be something along the lines of to be on the ballot one must either win the nomination of a major party (through a primary if necessary) or have the signature of something like 10 Atlasians. However, I am not sure if making ballot access a little tougher would be a good thing, and people could always write in a candidate anyway.

Also, am I currect in saying that for the next census, there will be 78 citizens total?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 26, 2006, 09:59:20 pm
Also, am I currect in saying that for the next census, there will be 78 citizens total?
76 unless either Kake or True democrat reregister or some other voter deregisters.  Between that and the fact that the people could move, I'm not releasing census figures or a map until the 1st.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Jake on June 26, 2006, 10:03:19 pm
Sweet Frnest.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on June 26, 2006, 10:09:23 pm
I never said I was a good typisy, Jake.


Title: Census Results (priliminary)
Post by: True Federalist on July 01, 2006, 06:17:06 pm
This is a heads up on the Census results.  The Census won't be until Friday, but here is what we have right now.

EDIT: Sam Spade moved from Puerto Rico to Texas on July 1.  Map updated to reflect that.

()

Census population: 74  (14.8 per District)

()

Total population: 93 (18.6 per District)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: ?????????? on July 01, 2006, 06:48:02 pm
Whats the difference between the blue and the red Ernest?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on July 02, 2006, 12:02:57 am
Red are all registered voters; blue is just those who voted in the last Federal election.  Redistricting has to be balanced according to the blue.  The red is provided merely as information that the governors may wish to consider as they decide how to redistrict; but they can totally ignore it if they wish


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Sam Spade on July 06, 2006, 10:29:25 pm
I am resigning my position as Lt. Governor and wish to be deregistered from Atlasia.  Thank you.


Title: Official Census Results
Post by: True Federalist on July 07, 2006, 06:32:34 pm
These are the official Census results as of noon today.

()

Census population: 73 (14.6 per District)

()

Total population: 92 (18.4 per District)

It has been interesting to have been your Secretary of Forum Affairs, and until Peter Bell is sworn in, I shall continue to serve in a caretaker function, but I'll let him decide what to do with the draft regulations that hadn't yet been finalized.  At a minimum they need some rewriting so that they reference the newly passed electoral law instead of the former.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on July 07, 2006, 09:29:49 pm
To help redistricters who wish to balance both Census and Total Population, here's a map showing the difference between the two values.

()

19 registered voters who did not vote in the last election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on July 09, 2006, 06:33:14 pm
Is there a requirement on how long a platform of a party must be for it to be considered a recognized party?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on July 09, 2006, 09:46:20 pm
The only requirement under current law for a party is that in order for it to be considered a "major party", it must have 5 or members.  In practice, I recognize almost any party name, except in the case of King -- I ignore his parties' names, and keep him listed under King's Joke Party, purely to keep the amount of record keeping to a minimum for his one man parties.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Memorial SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on July 13, 2006, 05:05:39 pm
Voter rolls have been updated and uploaded!
  • voterrolls.ods (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.ods) Open Document Spreadsheet (62KiB)
  • voterrolls.pdf (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.pdf) Portable Document Format (154KiB)
  • voterrolls.xls (http://ernestcline.home.mindspring.com/voterrolls.xls) Excel Spreadsheet (198KiB)
This list is current as of 6pm EDT today.

Any further updates will be the responsibility of the new SoFA and almost certainly in a different location.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on July 13, 2006, 05:36:39 pm
Since my move to Maine hasn't taken effect, can't you make that July 28th move to New Hampshire instead?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on July 14, 2006, 08:43:46 am
Since my move to Maine hasn't taken effect, can't you make that July 28th move to New Hampshire instead?

Once I get more settled in, I'll look into this for you. I will have an answer for you by the end of the weekend hopefully.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Јas on July 14, 2006, 11:13:00 am
May I express my sincere thanks to Ernest for his professional handing of this department over the past few months. Well done! :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Democrat on July 14, 2006, 06:55:30 pm
Please deregister Harry.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on July 15, 2006, 07:02:37 am
Lets be clear - any and all deregistration requests must be posted in the Registration Thread by the person wishing to be deregistered. If one does not do so, they will be ignored.

The occurences in the AWN thread or in a certain duel will not be considered official for the purposes of deregistering persons.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on July 15, 2006, 06:12:08 pm
May I express my sincere thanks to Ernest for his professional handing of this department over the past few months. Well done! :)
^^^


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on July 16, 2006, 09:40:43 am
Here's a notice for you Peter:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=42381.msg938678#msg938678 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=42381.msg938678#msg938678)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on July 17, 2006, 08:10:39 am
Since my move to Maine hasn't taken effect, can't you make that July 28th move to New Hampshire instead?

Having reviewed the situation, it is the conclusion of the department that since the above move is yet to take effect, you may void it and provide new registration details to take effect on 28 July. You should fully expound on this in the Registration thread.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Peter on July 20, 2006, 12:58:14 pm
Per the Candidate Regulations (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Candidate_Regulations) (4)(b), Lewis Trondheim has signalled acceptance of write-in votes cast for him in the D5 Special Election unless he declares otherwise.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 08, 2006, 03:56:45 pm
Updated voter lists (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 11, 2006, 09:23:52 am
The Senate elections will be held, as per statute, from Thu-Sun, 24th-26th august. The polls will be opening and closing at 1pm forum time, since that's a nice and decent 7pm over here. :P

The filing deadline is 7 days before the earliest possible commencement of the election, on Thu 17th, 1am forum time (midnight Eastern Standard [non dailight savings] time). An absentee voting thread will be opened at the same time.
Announced candidates so far -
District 1 - bullmoose88 (ILP-PA); Dr.Cynic (SDP-PA)
District 2 - Ernest (i-DE); Virginian87 (CDP-VA) (i)
District 3 - LucysBeau [Dave Hawk] (CDP-GA) (i)
District 4 - noone
District 5 - Brandon W (ILP-NV)

Deadline for new registrations and registration changes is the tenth day before the commencement of the election, so monday the 14th.
The constitutional text is "In order to vote or be a candidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter on the tenth day before that election. If a voter changes their state of registration in the ten days before the election, the state from which they were originally registered shall be the state from which their vote is cast. "
On account of the bolded portion, I'll interpret this as 10 days before the actual commencement of the election, ie 1pm forum time on the 14th.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 17, 2006, 06:35:27 am
Per the Candidate Regulations (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Candidate_Regulations) (4)(b), Jesus and Speed of Sound have signalled acceptance of write-in votes cast for him in the D4 Election.



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 24, 2006, 11:25:40 am
So, looks like I did make it after all. Still, I`m just through the door and haven`t even washed hands yet.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 24, 2006, 12:11:52 pm
The following seventeen Atlasians have failed the activity threshold of 25 posts in the 56 days leading up to the election. Should they vote, their vote will not be counted, although according to precedent (IIRC) an attempt to vote will count as a vote regarding the "a vote every four months" rule.

9iron - 8
ABAsite - 8
Beet - 0
Defarge - 14
Everett - 1
Gabu - 0
Jens - 22
JLD - 11
Mr Hobbes - 4
OldEurope - 24 - sorry man!
OWL - 2
PBrunsel - 0
SCDem07 - 2
theking2004 - 18
TheLoneLiberal - 5
WiseGuy - 22
Yates - 0


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on August 24, 2006, 01:14:37 pm
ARRRGH!  Well at least he now has enough posts to qualify to vote in a runoff should the need occur.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 26, 2006, 02:01:46 pm
Per the Candidate Regulations (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Candidate_Regulations) (4)(b), BRTD has signalled acceptance of write-in votes cast for him in the D4 Election.

Jesus has signalled that he won't accept write-in votes after all.

Sorry for not posting this yesterday; I didn't think of it.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 27, 2006, 11:57:51 am
Per the Candidate Regulations (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Candidate_Regulations) (4)(b), Clay has signalled acceptance of write-in votes cast for him in the D4 Election.

(sheepfaced for not noting this earlier.)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 27, 2006, 12:13:13 pm
The election results have been certified, and can be viewed in the Voting Booth.

The following voters will be struck from the voters' list, either for not voting for four calendar months or for not voting in the first election after their registration:

Name                Party - State - Region - District - Last voted
9iron                 ACA - MI - Mideast - 3 - 23. Apr   *
Beet                    i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr          *
Ben                     i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
BushOklahoma   CDP - OK - Midwest - 5 - 0              07. Aug
dazzleman           i - CT - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr      (*)
Gabu                   i - UT - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
gumbiegirl007    i - MI - Mideast - 3 - 0                    13. Jun
hughento            i - AZ - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
ian                      MR - MS - Southeast - 3 - 23. Apr    *
Jens                     i - RI - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr       (*)
Keystone Phil      ACA - PA - Northeast - 1 - 23. Apr     *
Miss Catholic        0 - WI - deregistered - 0 - 0         25. Jul
Mr.Hobbes           CDP - CA - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr         *
nickshepDEM       CDP - MD - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr       *
Pbrunsel              ACA - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr   (*)
SCDem07             i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
StatesRights      0 - FL - deregistered - 0 - 23. Apr   *
Yates                ILP - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr             (*)

I wonder how many of the 40 original registrants are still left and have an unbroken registration history? Regardless, the number just declined by one (sob).


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 27, 2006, 12:30:39 pm
Please take note that the Master Voter List (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.msg960279#msg960279) has been updated (except that asterisks are still missing), but the other lists have not.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Democratic Hawk on August 27, 2006, 01:47:33 pm
The election results have been certified, and can be viewed in the Voting Booth.

The following voters will be struck from the voters' list, either for not voting for four calendar months or for not voting in the first election after their registration:

Name                Party - State - Region - District - Last voted
9iron                 ACA - MI - Mideast - 3 - 23. Apr   *
Beet                    i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr          *
Ben                     i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
BushOklahoma   CDP - OK - Midwest - 5 - 0              07. Aug
dazzleman           i - CT - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr      (*)
Gabu                   i - UT - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
gumbiegirl007    i - MI - Mideast - 3 - 0                    13. Jun
hughento            i - AZ - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
ian                      MR - MS - Southeast - 3 - 23. Apr    *
Jens                     i - RI - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr       (*)
Keystone Phil      ACA - PA - Northeast - 1 - 23. Apr     *
Miss Catholic        0 - WI - deregistered - 0 - 0         25. Jul
Mr.Hobbes           CDP - CA - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr         *
nickshepDEM       CDP - MD - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr       *
Pbrunsel              ACA - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr   (*)
SCDem07             i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
StatesRights      0 - FL - deregistered - 0 - 23. Apr   *
Yates                ILP - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr             (*)

I wonder how many of the 40 original registrants are still left and have an unbroken registration history? Regardless, the number just declined by one (sob).

The fact that it is so easily to be deregistered is something that desparately needs to be addressed

I know of nowhere in the real-world were one who registers to vote is, subsequently, deregistered for failing to vote

Dave 'Hawk'


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 28, 2006, 07:17:29 am
The election results have been certified, and can be viewed in the Voting Booth.

The following voters will be struck from the voters' list, either for not voting for four calendar months or for not voting in the first election after their registration:

Name                Party - State - Region - District - Last voted
9iron                 ACA - MI - Mideast - 3 - 23. Apr   *
Beet                    i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr          *
Ben                     i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
BushOklahoma   CDP - OK - Midwest - 5 - 0              07. Aug
dazzleman           i - CT - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr      (*)
Gabu                   i - UT - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
gumbiegirl007    i - MI - Mideast - 3 - 0                    13. Jun
hughento            i - AZ - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr             *
ian                      MR - MS - Southeast - 3 - 23. Apr    *
Jens                     i - RI - Northeast - 1 - 30. Apr       (*)
Keystone Phil      ACA - PA - Northeast - 1 - 23. Apr     *
Miss Catholic        0 - WI - deregistered - 0 - 0         25. Jul
Mr.Hobbes           CDP - CA - Pacific - 5 - 23. Apr         *
nickshepDEM       CDP - MD - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr       *
Pbrunsel              ACA - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr   (*)
SCDem07             i - VA - Mideast - 2 - 23. Apr           *
StatesRights      0 - FL - deregistered - 0 - 23. Apr   *
Yates                ILP - IA - Midwest - 4 - 30. Apr             (*)

I wonder how many of the 40 original registrants are still left and have an unbroken registration history? Regardless, the number just declined by one (sob).

The fact that it is so easily to be deregistered is something that desparately needs to be addressed

I know of nowhere in the real-world were one who registers to vote is, subsequently, deregistered for failing to vote

Dave 'Hawk'
There's quite a couple of issues to be addressed... we'll need to either turn around the current massive population decline, or change our government arrangements to suit our new smaller population. There were barely more votes cast in these midterms than in the first ever presidential election. I'm starting to think that Hugh may be right, and that the regions will simply have to go out the window.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: afleitch on August 28, 2006, 07:56:53 am
I'm starting to think that Hugh may be right, and that the regions will simply have to go out the window.

In the short term, sadly, they may have to :( The Mideast has been paralysed for the past few months. It is worth considering, as long as the Senate is expanded to 12 members at least, or something like a House composed of 8 members and a Senate of 4. That would keep levels of representation at an appropriate level.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: MasterJedi on August 28, 2006, 08:01:00 am
I'm starting to think that Hugh may be right, and that the regions will simply have to go out the window.

In the short term, sadly, they may have to :( The Mideast has been paralysed for the past few months. It is worth considering, as long as the Senate is expanded to 12 members at least, or something like a House composed of 8 members and a Senate of 4. That would keep levels of representation at an appropriate level.

If people try and force the regions out at least leave the region boundaries the same for election purposes, that keeps it kinda the same.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on August 28, 2006, 08:06:54 am
I'm starting to think that Hugh may be right, and that the regions will simply have to go out the window.

In the short term, sadly, they may have to :( The Mideast has been paralysed for the past few months.

^^^

Very true. We've reached the point where there isn't really anyone who wants to run for any regional office.

At least as far as the Mideast goes, the Regional experiment has clearly failed (it's not as though past Governers haven't been worried about it or tried to stop it either; the past few all have). And we were always ahead of the proverbial curve...


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: afleitch on August 28, 2006, 08:10:48 am
If people try and force the regions out at least leave the region boundaries the same for election purposes, that keeps it kinda the same.

I would agree. If the regions were abolished, along with governors etc, then it would be fair to create at least 2-4 new seats on the national legislature to compensate, perhaps allowing existing governors to serve out their term, but as members of the Senate.

As for a two house system, it could work, but it could also overcomplicate the legislative process. The regions have alot of life in them yet, and I thoroughly enjoyed serving mine, but if things don't pick up them may have to be sacrificed. Another option could see the regions reduced, to perhaps 3 but all of these are radical possibilities.

I think those of us, myself included, who pushed for and participated in the Constitutional Convention were perhaps too focused on the wrong issues and were ignorning the 'elephant in the room' :(


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on August 28, 2006, 08:17:27 am
Please take note that the Master Voter List (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.msg960279#msg960279) has been updated (except that asterisks are still missing), but the other lists have not.
All lists updated now.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: ilikeverin on August 28, 2006, 11:16:22 am
Aww, but the Midwest is so fun :(


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on August 28, 2006, 07:22:57 pm
If we do start cutting the size of the government, I think we should have cut the districts to 4 this past election. If we are down to 60 after the next election, then we should go down to three. We should also look at cutting the number of cabinet members.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Democratic Hawk on August 28, 2006, 07:31:15 pm
I'm minded to suggest that we should amend the Constitution, where necessary, and abolish federal voting requirements before we proceed with anything more drastic

I'm going to take on board what everyone has said and tomorrow - before I leave for a few days on Wednesday - I'll set a specific thread away, where all can be discussed out in the open :)

At the end of the day, all Atlasia needs is more voters and more willing participants to run for office [Easier said than done!]

Dave 'Hawk'


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on August 28, 2006, 11:00:32 pm
If someone does not vote or post they should be removed. However, I would suggest the following:

A voter who has been starred (*) for failing to vote in a federal election shall have his/her star removed by renewing his/her registration.

So we don't keep people who don't participate on the roles, but if someone happens to miss an election, but still wants to remain active, then they can.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: True Federalist on August 28, 2006, 11:10:39 pm
I like the Regions, but I concede that we have too few participants at present to maintain the existing system.  Therefore, with apologies to Aahnold, I recomend we switch over to Governor/Senators or Governators for short.  Instead of electing Regional Senators this October, we have the Governors do double duty as Senators. When we have enough people to support all the offices, we can restore Regional Senate seats.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Democratic Hawk on August 29, 2006, 07:13:43 pm
I'll collate what has been said, and suggested, and set a thread away tomorrow before Lucy and I leave for Acapulco (Leeds actually ;D). We need a good debate on the points that have been raised

Dave 'Hawk'


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on September 08, 2006, 08:20:13 am
Voter lists (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0) updated. SDP now largest party, Northeast now largest region.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on September 18, 2006, 05:30:01 am
Voter lists (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0) updated. (Last change included: Naso.)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on October 20, 2006, 08:17:38 pm
The vote cast by Dean is ineligible due to insufficient posts in the last 56 days.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Fritz on October 20, 2006, 08:40:42 pm
The vote cast by Dean is ineligible due to insufficient posts in the last 56 days.

So is mine I believe, but I voted anyways.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on October 21, 2006, 09:32:44 am
The vote cast by Dean is ineligible due to insufficient posts in the last 56 days.

So is mine I believe, but I voted anyways.

Yes, sorry, but your vote's eneligible too.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on October 23, 2006, 07:59:01 am
I'm not seeing Texasindy on the voter rolls, or registering since the last update. Does anyone know of another name Texasindy might be registered under?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Everett on October 23, 2006, 11:36:35 am
I don't see her other name, "Sara", on the voter rolls. She originally registered in March 2006 [1] (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=34355.msg840574#msg840574). but I don't know what has happened since then.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Bdub on October 23, 2006, 12:08:12 pm
I think she missed an election and got deleted off of the voter rolls.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 23, 2006, 07:03:36 pm
No doubt we can all look forward to more voters being purged from the rolls :(

Dave 'Hawk'


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on October 23, 2006, 07:21:11 pm
No doubt we can all look forward to more voters being purged from the rolls :(

I counted 27 removals and 10 *'d voters.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on October 23, 2006, 07:50:52 pm
No doubt we can all look forward to more voters being purged from the rolls :(

I counted 27 removals and 10 *'d voters.

Wow, what's the total now?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on October 23, 2006, 07:57:26 pm
No doubt we can all look forward to more voters being purged from the rolls :(

I counted 27 removals and 10 *'d voters.

Wow, what's the total now?

By my count, 55, plus one person who reg'd after the dead line for this election.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Dr. Cynic on October 24, 2006, 12:42:55 am
Clearly, voting laws need to be changed... I'll speak jointly with Al, the Senate, and the Reigonal Governors about it.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: WMS on October 27, 2006, 02:06:53 pm
Clearly, voting laws need to be changed... I'll speak jointly with Al, the Senate, and the Reigonal Governors about it.
Good intentions gone awry, it appears. :(


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on October 30, 2006, 11:13:17 pm
Please check and point out errors.

Master List
All registered voters in alphabetical order by username (Forum name will not be used by this Department. I don't see why I should bother when Frodo decides on a whim to be "Maverick" or Lewis Trondheim decides on a whim to be "Supa Hasi". I'll admit it's a bit confusing with people whose forum names are far more widely used than their usernames, such as Boss Tweed / miamiu)
Name                Party - State - Region - District - Last voted

afleitch                i - WI - Mideast - 4 - 21 Oct   
Akno21               D - MD - Mideast - 2 - 21 Oct
Alcon                   i - WA - Pacific - 4 - 21 Oct
Bacon King          FDP - GA - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
bgwah                JCP - WA - Pacific - 4 - 21 Oct   
brandonh          ACA - LA - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
Brandon W          ILP - NV - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct   
BRTD                   SDP - IL - Mideast - 4 -21 Oct   
bullmoose88       ILP - PA - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
CheeseWhiz       AMR - MN - Midwest - 4 - 21 Oct
Clay                    SLA- NE- Midwest- 4 - DATE
ColinW                FDP - PA - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
Cosmo Kramer    CDP - AR - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
DanielX                LF - WY - Midwest - 5 - 21 Oct
DownwiththeLeft R- NJ- Northeast - 2 - 21 Oct   
Dr.Cynic              SLA - PA - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct
dubya2004          R - MS - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
DWPerry             ACA - AL - Southeast - 3 - 0           21 Oct
EarlAW              SDP - NY - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
Emsworth               i - CO - Midwest - 5 - 27. Aug *   
Ernest                 ILP - DE - Northeast - 2 - 21 Oct
Everett              AMR - CA - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct
exnaderite          ILP - WI - Mideast - 4 - 21 Oct   
fezzyfestoon       R - NJ - Northeast- 2 - 21 Oct   
Frodo                  CDP - AL- Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
Gustaf                UAC - MN - Midwest - 4 - 27. Aug    *
GWBFan              SDP - NE - Midwest - 4 - 27. Aug *
htmldon             UAC - TN - Southeast - 3 - 27. Aug    *
hughento          IND - AZ - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct
ian                    AMR - Miss - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct
ilikeverin             AMR - MN - Midwest - 4 - 27. Aug   *
Inks.LWC            ACA - MI - Mideast - 3 - 21 Oct
Jas                       i - IA - Midwest - 4 - 21 Oct   
jerusalemcar5     D - NH - Northeast - 1 - 27. Aug *   
jfern                    SDP - CA - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct
JLD                      SDP - MN - Midwest - 4 - 21 Oct
Joel                       R - MA - Northeast - 1 - 0           21 Oct
John Dibble          i - GA - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct
josh4bush           CDP - NC - Southeast - 2 - 21 Oct      
Keystone Phil       R - PA - Northeast - 1 - 0           21 Oct
Lewis Trondheim SDP - WY - Midwest - 5   - 21 Oct
LiberalPA             SDP - SD - Midwest - 4 - 21 Oct   
LucysBeau           CDP - GA - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct   
MAS117                UAC - NJ - Northeast - 2 - 21 Oct
MasterJedi            R - WI - Mideast - 4   - 21 Oct
MHS2002             ACA - SC - Southeast - 2 - 21 Oct   
Miamiu1027         ILP - NY - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
NHPolitico           CDP - NH - Northeast - 1-  DATE NEEDED   
nym90                 CDP - MI - Mideast - 3 - 21 Oct
Old Europe           i - MA - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
opebo                  ILP - MO - Southeast - 3 - 21 Oct
OWL                    CDP - ND - Midwest - 4    - 21 Oct
polnut                 SDP - IL - Mideast - 4 - 0     21 Oct
Ebowed&,nbsp;                  D - SC - Southeast - 2 - 27. Aug   *
Reaganfan          R - TX - Southeast - 5 - 21 Oct
Realpolitik           AS   - WV - Mideast - 3 - 21 Oct   
rinchan089            R - AZ - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct
SamSpade           i - TX - Southeast - 5 - 21 Oct   
Senator Conor Flynn UAC - NY - Northeast - 1 - 0       12. Sep
Shilly                   PP   - CA - Pacific - 5 - 27. Aug *
Smash255          SDP - NY - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct
TCash101            ILP - CT - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct   
texasgurl24       AS - MT - Midwest - 4 - 21 Oct
tmcusa2           PFU - PA - Northeast - 1 - 0                 17. Sep *
tomm_86            AS - IL - Mideast - 4 - 0                      09. Sep *
true democrat   R - PA - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct
Virginian87       CDP   - VA - Mideast - 2 - 21 Oct   
Winfield            ACA   - RI - Northeast - 1 - 21 Oct
WiseGuy           ACA   - TX - Southeast - 5 - 27. Aug *   
WMS                 CDP   - NM - Pacific - 5 - 21 Oct   
YoungRepub     FF - NY - Northeast - 1 - 27. Aug   *

Asterisk denotes voters in danger of having registration considered invalid if they do not vote in the next presidential election, or any by-election before that.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 02, 2006, 06:49:05 am
Note that the bracketed asterisks are up for removal even before the other ones. :)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: TomC on November 02, 2006, 04:12:58 pm
Note that the bracketed asterisks are up for removal even before the other ones. :)

OK, I wasn't sure- the dates on them were later than those with just the asterisks.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 06, 2006, 03:28:57 pm
Note that the bracketed asterisks are up for removal even before the other ones. :)

OK, I wasn't sure- the dates on them were later than those with just the asterisks.
They voted in a by-election three months ago, but not in the general midterms after that. (And I suppose not this time round either?)


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Gustaf on January 22, 2007, 03:25:05 pm
So...am I still allowed to vote then?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2007, 03:27:37 pm
So...am I still allowed to vote then?

Not right now, because you aren't on our voter rolls due to inactivity.  However, you're more than welcome to register again.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Gustaf on January 26, 2007, 07:34:26 pm
So...am I still allowed to vote then?

Not right now, because you aren't on our voter rolls due to inactivity.  However, you're more than welcome to register again.

But I'm asterisked? Oh, well...


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 26, 2007, 07:37:01 pm
So...am I still allowed to vote then?

Not right now, because you aren't on our voter rolls due to inactivity.  However, you're more than welcome to register again.

But I'm asterisked? Oh, well...

The voter list posted by TCash earlier on this thread is outdated.  The current voter list can now be found here (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll).

As I said, you are not on it due to inactivity (i.e., failure to vote in consecutive elections), but you are welcome to re-register.


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: King on May 26, 2007, 11:36:23 am
Oh man, I just realized when I was SoFA two years ago, I completely failed to make the joke "I'm SoFA King Great!"



Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on May 26, 2007, 11:42:27 am
When is the filing deadline for the next elections, btw?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Brandon H on July 14, 2007, 03:54:00 pm
When is the election for the vacant District 1 Seat suppose to take place?


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Sam Spade on July 14, 2007, 09:57:57 pm
Doesn't it have to start within 10 days of the seat being vacant...


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: Gabu on July 14, 2007, 10:21:48 pm
The election was this weekend, but it's currently invisible.

Okay, as has been brought to my attention by MasterJedi, I appear to have pulled a Naso here.  Also, it's within one week, not ten days.  Which basically means that the cutoff period of time was... yesterday.

I think our best bet at this point would be to just say "screw the Constitution" and have the election next weekend.  We can't exactly start a sudden election now as that wouldn't be fair to the voters who were unaware it was going to occur.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Ebowed on July 15, 2007, 07:05:27 am
The only sane response to this problem is to impeach Mike Naso from the office of former Governor.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: ilikeverin on July 15, 2007, 07:08:25 pm
I think our best bet at this point would be to just say "screw the Constitution" and have the election next weekend.  We can't exactly start a sudden election now as that wouldn't be fair to the voters who were unaware it was going to occur.

This is what the Midwest does for every election ;)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Speed of Sound on July 17, 2007, 10:28:59 pm
I think our best bet at this point would be to just say "screw the Constitution" and have the election next weekend.  We can't exactly start a sudden election now as that wouldn't be fair to the voters who were unaware it was going to occur.

This is what the Midwest does for every election ;)
And thats what makes it great! :D


Title: Re: The Jim Fritz Celebratory SoFA Thread
Post by: KEmperor on September 03, 2007, 11:17:04 pm
The election was this weekend, but it's currently invisible.

Okay, as has been brought to my attention by MasterJedi, I appear to have pulled a Naso here.  Also, it's within one week, not ten days.  Which basically means that the cutoff period of time was... yesterday.

I think our best bet at this point would be to just say "screw the Constitution" and have the election next weekend.  We can't exactly start a sudden election now as that wouldn't be fair to the voters who were unaware it was going to occur.

Sounds to me what you really need is a "Cooling Off" period:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=18917.msg406818#msg406818
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=18268.0


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on September 04, 2007, 06:24:26 am
The only sane response to this problem is to impeach Mike Naso from the office of former Governor.
That's what the Midwest does for every election. :)

And thats what makes it great! :D


Title: Official Notice
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 15, 2007, 09:30:45 am
To whom it may concern -
The public vote on the bill misleadingly titled "Resolution [sic] on the issue of Atlasian recognition of the United States of America" will be opened on Friday, the 23rd of November, probably at  5am Forum Time, and close exactly 72 hours later.
This is your official notice as prescribed by  section 2. And yes, that's within the one month time window, if barely so. :P

Quote
Resolution on the issue of Atlasian recognition of the United States of America

Whereas, contrary to the official standpoint of the Atlasian government, the United States of America are still in existence, and still in possession of all the territories formerly in their possession,

Section 1

1. The Government of Atlasia is urged to recognize de jure the United States of America, and the legality of the government of the United States of America.
2. The Government of Atlasia is urged to establish diplomatic relations with the United States of America.

Section 2

1. The recognition of the United States, under the above terms, shall not take effect until such time as it approved of by a majority vote of the people of Atlasia (ignoring abstentions).

2. This vote shall take place no later than one month following the passage of this resolution under the overseeing of the Department of Forum Affairs and shall last for 72 hours. At least 5 days official notice shall be given by the Department of the upcoming ballot.

3. The vote shall constitute an election for the purposes of sections 10, 11, 13, 14 of the Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act (as amended).


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 15, 2007, 11:04:22 am
Do governors put this up in their respective regions or do you do it?


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 15, 2007, 12:13:12 pm
Do governors put this up in their respective regions or do you do it?

It doesn't appear to be an amendment, so I'm assuming it's the  SoFA's job.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on November 15, 2007, 12:51:43 pm
It's a national vote, not a regional vote. It is not done like an amendment but is run by the SoFA. There is one nationwide vote on the matter.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: bgwah on November 15, 2007, 12:59:16 pm
Lewis, are you going to do the official census?


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 16, 2007, 09:12:17 am
Lewis, are you going to do the official census?
Yes. I'm going to do so today. I stated this in the thread with the confirmation vote. :P


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 16, 2007, 11:14:55 am
The master (alphabetical) roll on the Wiki has been updated, and a section on movement restrictions added.
The other rolls have not been updated yet.
Beh - that template is quite a drag. I'll probably move the official voter roll back onto the Forum soon.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 16, 2007, 11:17:35 am
I'll probably move the official voter roll back onto the Forum soon.

:)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 16, 2007, 02:09:44 pm
Official Voter Rolls have been rehoused in the Ernest Annexe (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0). Except for the District List, lists there are up to date. Please point out errors.



Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 23, 2007, 05:31:55 am
District figures have been added at the Ernest Annexe (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0). District numbers in the by-party and by-region lists are still inaccurate, however.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Verily on November 23, 2007, 02:03:56 pm
District figures have been added at the Ernest Annexe (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0). District numbers in the by-party and by-region lists are still inaccurate, however.

Afleitch is a member of the NLC.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 24, 2007, 06:58:26 am
District figures have been added at the Ernest Annexe (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0). District numbers in the by-party and by-region lists are still inaccurate, however.

Afleitch is a member of the NLC.
Link? The search function (which frequently misses things) throws up no post by him to include either "NLC" or "National Liberal Coalition", and the only result from the register thread it threw up when searching for "Afleitch" in his posts are his indy registration from june 06, and an even earlier one from 2005.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Verily on November 24, 2007, 11:29:53 pm
District figures have been added at the Ernest Annexe (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43572.0). District numbers in the by-party and by-region lists are still inaccurate, however.

Afleitch is a member of the NLC.
Link? The search function (which frequently misses things) throws up no post by him to include either "NLC" or "National Liberal Coalition", and the only result from the register thread it threw up when searching for "Afleitch" in his posts are his indy registration from june 06, and an even earlier one from 2005.

Hmm... maybe he never registered with the party. He's definitely a member, though; I'll mention it to him.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 26, 2007, 05:50:50 am
This is to officially certify that the Resolution on the Issue of Atlasian Recognition of the United States of America has failed to be approved in a public vote.

Results
Votes cast 39
Aye 12
Nay 25
Abstentions 2
Invalid 0.

The list of who voted for what at the Tracker is correct, except that Jas missed Jake's nay vote.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Јas on November 26, 2007, 06:56:36 am
...except that Jas missed Jake's nay vote.

Argh!

The Tracker's counting procedures are under review.
Persons found responsible shall be defenestrated.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 26, 2007, 09:18:10 am
...except that Jas missed Jake's nay vote.

Argh!

The Tracker's counting procedures are under review.
Persons found responsible shall be defenestrated.
Make sure that it's a ground floor window, and that it's open, before you hurl yourself through it.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Јas on November 26, 2007, 10:44:45 am
...except that Jas missed Jake's nay vote.

Argh!

The Tracker's counting procedures are under review.
Persons found responsible shall be defenestrated.
Make sure that it's a ground floor window, and that it's open, before you hurl yourself through it.

I've have complete confidence that the investigation I'm conducting will find that I'm completely in the clear. :)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: bgwah on November 26, 2007, 04:46:56 pm
Hi,
I made the "voters by name" table on the Registered Voter Roll page sortable. Lewis made it sound like it was too much work updating each individual party table and what not, so now all he has to do is update that one table, and you can simply click the little arrows and it will sort the voters by name, region, party, and district.

You can remove it if you don't like it, Lewis, but I think it's a nice addition. :)

Link: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll#Voters_by_name


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Verily on November 26, 2007, 08:42:26 pm
Hi,
I made the "voters by name" table on the Registered Voter Roll page sortable. Lewis made it sound like it was too much work updating each individual party table and what not, so now all he has to do is update that one table, and you can simply click the little arrows and it will sort the voters by name, region, party, and district.

You can remove it if you don't like it, Lewis, but I think it's a nice addition. :)

Link: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll#Voters_by_name

I think there's a misalignment in the district numbers somewhere; I'm listed as in District 5, for example.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: bgwah on November 26, 2007, 08:48:48 pm
In response to Inks in his locked thread:

This has already been updated in full. The list is currently in the Ernest Annex of the DoFA building. It is linked via the stickied Fritz Building for Forum Affairs, it may be a page back or so. It is currently not updated on the Wiki. While you're enthusiasm is appreciated it is unneeded as the DoFA has this completed and fully updated.

Can we get the wiki updated then, and the Ernest Annexe stickied?

Jesus just updated the wiki with a sortable list.

That sortable list was very inaccurate - that's what I coppied onto here - most of the Federalist Party members weren't listed as FP's

I did not update the list's data, I merely added the sortable feature. The list was already outdated.

Hi,
I made the "voters by name" table on the Registered Voter Roll page sortable. Lewis made it sound like it was too much work updating each individual party table and what not, so now all he has to do is update that one table, and you can simply click the little arrows and it will sort the voters by name, region, party, and district.

You can remove it if you don't like it, Lewis, but I think it's a nice addition. :)

Link: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Registered_Voter_Roll#Voters_by_name

I think there's a misalignment in the district numbers somewhere; I'm listed as in District 5, for example.

The same applies here. The data must have already been incorrect.

Updating the Wiki page should no longer be difficult, as only one table needs to be kept up to date, instead of the many different regional and party tables, etc.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 26, 2007, 08:51:11 pm
In response to Inks in his locked thread:

This has already been updated in full. The list is currently in the Ernest Annex of the DoFA building. It is linked via the stickied Fritz Building for Forum Affairs, it may be a page back or so. It is currently not updated on the Wiki. While you're enthusiasm is appreciated it is unneeded as the DoFA has this completed and fully updated.

Can we get the wiki updated then, and the Ernest Annexe stickied?

Jesus just updated the wiki with a sortable list.

That sortable list was very inaccurate - that's what I coppied onto here - most of the Federalist Party members weren't listed as FP's

I did not update the list's data, I merely added the sortable feature. The list was already outdated.

That's what I thought - Colin was the one who said that you had updated it.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on November 26, 2007, 08:54:24 pm
In response to Inks in his locked thread:

This has already been updated in full. The list is currently in the Ernest Annex of the DoFA building. It is linked via the stickied Fritz Building for Forum Affairs, it may be a page back or so. It is currently not updated on the Wiki. While you're enthusiasm is appreciated it is unneeded as the DoFA has this completed and fully updated.

Can we get the wiki updated then, and the Ernest Annexe stickied?

Jesus just updated the wiki with a sortable list.

That sortable list was very inaccurate - that's what I coppied onto here - most of the Federalist Party members weren't listed as FP's

I did not update the list's data, I merely added the sortable feature. The list was already outdated.

That's what I thought - Colin was the one who said that you had updated it.

I didn't say that. You're confusing me with Verily. I have never been under the impression that the Wiki represented the current registration data. That can only be found in the Ernest Annexe.

Ask a question of me and then lock the thread. Classy move Inks now I can't even respond without acting like a douchebag. I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 26, 2007, 08:56:25 pm
In response to Inks in his locked thread:

This has already been updated in full. The list is currently in the Ernest Annex of the DoFA building. It is linked via the stickied Fritz Building for Forum Affairs, it may be a page back or so. It is currently not updated on the Wiki. While you're enthusiasm is appreciated it is unneeded as the DoFA has this completed and fully updated.

Can we get the wiki updated then, and the Ernest Annexe stickied?

Jesus just updated the wiki with a sortable list.

That sortable list was very inaccurate - that's what I coppied onto here - most of the Federalist Party members weren't listed as FP's

I did not update the list's data, I merely added the sortable feature. The list was already outdated.

That's what I thought - Colin was the one who said that you had updated it.

I didn't say that. You're confusing me with Verily. I have never been under the impression that the Wiki represented the current registration data. That can only be found in the Ernest Annexe.

Right - my bad.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 28, 2007, 06:43:55 am
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.
It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Hi,
I made the "voters by name" table on the Registered Voter Roll page sortable.
I'll take a look at it. It may well be that I'll abandon the Ernest Annexe again... although I 'll feel sorry about dropping the name. :(


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on November 28, 2007, 12:31:38 pm
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.

It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Well maybe you should get some sofas or recliners, maybe a big screen TV, make it a little more cozy. ;)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Јas on November 28, 2007, 12:51:40 pm
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.

It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Well maybe you should get some sofas or recliners, maybe a big screen TV, make it a little more cozy. ;)


Well if he get's all that then I'll be seeking refuge at the DoFA.
The Vice President's office has suffered badly in recent budget rounds...
()


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on November 28, 2007, 12:52:35 pm
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.

It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Well maybe you should get some sofas or recliners, maybe a big screen TV, make it a little more cozy. ;)


Well if he get's all that then I'll be seeking refuge at the DoFA.
The Vice President's office has suffered badly in recent budget rounds...
()

I see that plan to move you to West Virginia worked well. How long until you get indoor plumbing?


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Јas on November 28, 2007, 12:58:42 pm
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.

It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Well maybe you should get some sofas or recliners, maybe a big screen TV, make it a little more cozy. ;)


Well if he get's all that then I'll be seeking refuge at the DoFA.
The Vice President's office has suffered badly in recent budget rounds...
()

I see that plan to move you to West Virginia worked well. How long until you get indoor plumbing?

Unfortunately our funds will only stretch so far. We're having a meeting tomorrow on budgetary priorities: indoor plumbing v. replacing the carrier pigeon.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on November 28, 2007, 03:07:07 pm
I would also suggest that nobody clutter up the DoFA's building.

It's okay - we like having some squatters around. Makes the place feel more like home.

Well maybe you should get some sofas or recliners, maybe a big screen TV, make it a little more cozy. ;)


Well if he get's all that then I'll be seeking refuge at the DoFA.
The Vice President's office has suffered badly in recent budget rounds...
()

I see that plan to move you to West Virginia worked well. How long until you get indoor plumbing?

Unfortunately our funds will only stretch so far. We're having a meeting tomorrow on budgetary priorities: indoor plumbing v. replacing the carrier pigeon.
Indoor plumbing!? WOW. You guys must be rich.

This is the Fritz Building:

()

And this is the Ernest Annexe:

()


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 04, 2007, 01:35:49 pm
The SoFA is confused... according to his reading of the  XIth Amendment (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Eleventh_Amendment_to_the_Second_Constitution) the December exception we used to have is repealed and the election is not to start until Thursday, the 20th. Which means that new registrations remain open until the 10th and the filing deadline for candidates is open until 00:00 on the 13th. However, the amendment was already in place last december and it certainly wasn't interpreted that way then as the election begun on Friday the 15th. Which would move all these deadlines ahead by a week. Could someone please enlighten me as to whether I'm missing something?

Irrespective of all that,
the DoFA has so far received the following candidate declarations:
D1 - Bacon King, DWDL
D2 - Mr Moderate
D3 - Afleitch
D4 - Hughento, Willy Woz
D5 - Culture King, Porce, Xahar (all listed alphabetically).
The DoFA has not yet reached a decision regarding Gporter's declaration of candidacy for a district he doesn't reside in (d4), but leans towards considering him a candidate for the district he does in fact reside in (d3), assuming (if the voter roll is still open) he doesn't move.

Furthermore, the SoFA will get to updating the voter roll before or at the very very latest during the election, and also to a decision regarding on where to keep voter rolls in the future. Promised.
But not right now. Currently, the SoFA spends virtually every minute either at his day job, recuperating from his day job, (on weekends:) partying, or recuperating from partying; and is therefore horribly strapped for time.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on December 04, 2007, 01:45:35 pm
I believe Gporter dropped out of the race so you will not have to try and figure out what district he's running in.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on December 04, 2007, 02:27:02 pm
I believe Gporter dropped out of the race so you will not have to try and figure out what district he's running in.

And Atlasia is worse off because of it.  :(


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 04, 2007, 02:53:46 pm
I believe Gporter dropped out of the race so you will not have to try and figure out what district he's running in.
But he didn't in the candidate thread.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Colin on December 04, 2007, 04:20:47 pm
I believe Gporter dropped out of the race so you will not have to try and figure out what district he's running in.
But he didn't in the candidate thread.

Does he have to? I thought the precedent was that if you stated that you are dropping out in a public post it is taken as official and your name is not on the ballot. This may have changed with subsequent legislation.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Peter on December 04, 2007, 04:31:47 pm
I agree with your interpretation of the 11th Amendment. Why wasn't it done this way last year? Probably the fact that nobody realised that the Law had been accidentally changed. (which, btw, you can all blame me for)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 05, 2007, 02:55:29 pm
I believe Gporter dropped out of the race so you will not have to try and figure out what district he's running in.
But he didn't in the candidate thread.

Does he have to? I thought the precedent was that if you stated that you are dropping out in a public post it is taken as official and your name is not on the ballot.
That requires me to read every public post on the forum. That's asking a wee bit much if you ask me. :P
However, gporter has replied to a pm the DoFA has sent him, and confirmed that he has indeed dropped out. Which settles the matter as far as I'm concerned.



Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 19, 2007, 05:43:49 pm
Election will begin tomorrow, 2pm Forum time, and conclude 72 hours later.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 19, 2007, 05:49:58 pm
Election will begin tomorrow, 2pm Forum time, and conclude 72 hours later.

Thanks Lewis. I was going to ask you when the Elections were going to take place but you beat me to it. Your doing a good job as Secretary of Forum Affaris Lewis, I congratulate you on your work thus far.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on December 20, 2007, 08:23:58 am
Voter rolls have been updated.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on January 15, 2008, 07:05:44 am
A big ole update of the voter roll, info on the presidentials, etc will roll around after I got this theatre premiere out of the way.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 15, 2008, 07:15:25 am
Regular voting will start thursday 1pm ET and conclude 72 hours later.

Absentee voting booth (yes, they're still on the law books, though we haven't had one in a while) will be up in ten minutes or so.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 16, 2008, 09:18:43 am
The following registered voters have not yet posted 15 times in the 56 days before the election, ie since December 27th, and have til Feb 20th (inclusive) to do so if they want their vote to count. (Yes, I recognize all but two or three haven't been on in ages.)
Figures is posts since Dec 27th so far.

Chuck Hagel 08 (South Park Conservative) - 0
Conan - 5
DanielX - 0
Defarge - 1
downwithdaleft - 0
DWPerry - 11
Emsworth - 0
Julian Francis - 8
Robert Stark - 1
texasgurl - 0
Wildcard - 0
Walter Evans Edge - 13
Wise Guy - 0


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 18, 2008, 03:13:23 pm
gporter/Willy Woz will be recognised as a write-in candidacy.



Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 21, 2008, 06:58:27 am
The following registered voters have not yet posted 15 times in the 56 days before the election, ie since December 27th, and have til Feb 20th (inclusive) to do so if they want their vote to count. (Yes, I recognize all but two or three haven't been on in ages.)
Figures is posts since Dec 27th so far.

Chuck Hagel 08 (South Park Conservative) - 0
Conan - 5
DanielX - 0
Defarge - 1
downwithdaleft - 0
DWPerry - 11
Emsworth - 0
Julian Francis - 8
Robert Stark - 1
texasgurl - 0
Wildcard - 0
Walter Evans Edge - 13
Wise Guy - 0
The following posters have managed to fulfill activity requirements after all:

Daniel X
DWPerry
Walter Evans Edge


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 21, 2008, 01:27:26 pm
The DoFA would like to point out (once again) that it is not possible to vote "None of the Above" for any other than a first preference, and that any lower preferences for "None of the Above" will be treated like joke write-ins, ie ignored.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 24, 2008, 07:14:42 am
Please note that Eraserhead, who attempted to cast a vote, is not a registered voter.

He registered on 7th October,2007 (and also in the spring of 2006) but did not vote in the first election after that, leading to his removal from the voter roll.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 24, 2008, 02:32:03 pm
Update to the voter rolls will have to wait until after the Pacific runoff.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 25, 2008, 07:52:17 am
An absentee voting booth for the Runoff election has been opened.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on February 28, 2008, 10:53:41 am
The following Pacific residents have not posted 15 times in the 56 days before today's runoff:

Robert Stark
Texasgurl
Wildcard


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 02, 2008, 12:59:04 pm
The following voters will be removed from the voter roll due to either missing four elections in a row, or missing their first election:

Akno, Bono, Tik, Daniel X, Dr.Cynic, Emsworth, Flyers, Gabu, GOPFlyer10, Gully Foyle, John Dibble, Julian Francis, Kevin, MarkWarner08, Matchu, PGSable, Reignman, Wildcard.

PM alerts will be sent out shortly.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 05, 2008, 05:31:57 pm
Just pointing out:
The by-election for Ebowed's seat will begin Thursday, 13th and conclude 36 hours later. Poll opening and closing is provisionally scheduled as 1pm ET. (Fingers crossed that planet real life doesn't intrude here.) The filing deadline is Tuesday, 11th, 01:00 pm ET. Declared candidates so far: Everett (JCP-OR) and CultureKing (PLP-WA).

Should any other Senate vacancy arise (Cough. Mr Moderate. Cough) by Sunday, 9th, 11:59pm ET, than all of the above applies to such by-election as well. Should it occur after that, the by-election will be held a week after that.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 10, 2008, 09:41:45 am
Just pointing out:
The by-election for Ebowed's seat will begin Thursday, 13th and conclude 36 hours later. Poll opening and closing is provisionally scheduled as 1pm ET. (Fingers crossed that planet real life doesn't intrude here.) The filing deadline is Tuesday, 11th, 01:00 pm ET. Declared candidates so far: Everett (JCP-OR) and CultureKing (PLP-WA).

Should any other Senate vacancy arise (Cough. Mr Moderate. Cough) by Sunday, 9th, 11:59pm ET, than all of the above applies to such by-election as well. Should it occur after that, the by-election will be held a week after that.

To avoid any confusion: The times given above are Eastern Time. Not Eastern Daylight Savings Time.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on March 10, 2008, 10:18:41 am
Just pointing out:
The by-election for Ebowed's seat will begin Thursday, 13th and conclude 36 hours later. Poll opening and closing is provisionally scheduled as 1pm ET. (Fingers crossed that planet real life doesn't intrude here.) The filing deadline is Tuesday, 11th, 01:00 pm ET. Declared candidates so far: Everett (JCP-OR) and CultureKing (PLP-WA).

Should any other Senate vacancy arise (Cough. Mr Moderate. Cough) by Sunday, 9th, 11:59pm ET, than all of the above applies to such by-election as well. Should it occur after that, the by-election will be held a week after that.

To avoid any confusion: The times given above are Eastern Time. Not Eastern Daylight Savings Time.

Quick question, but an important one: Shouldn't the Proportional Representation Act govern any Class B Senate vacancies occuring after December 31, 2007?

Specifically:

Quote from: Proportional Representation Act
Vacancies
18. In the event of a vacancy arising for whatever reason, where the concerned ex-Senator is a member of a party with 4 at the time the vacancy arises, the same party shall be responsible for filling the vacancy by whatever means they deem fit.

19. The party shall have 10 days from the arising of the vacancy within which to give official notice to the Department of Forum Affairs of who they nominate to take up the vacant seat.

20. Where: (i) the ex-Senator is not a member of a major party at the time the vacancy arises; or (ii) the party fails to comply with section 19; a by-election for the seat shall be held on a nationwide basis and in accordance with the terms outlined within F.L. 14-2 Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act.

21. Where there exists any doubt as to party affiliation; major party status; or time of vacancy arising, it shall be the responsibility of the Department of Forum Affairs to clarify these matters upon request by any citizen.

22. Any decision of the Department under section 21 may be appealed to the Supreme Court, which may in its discretion suspend any relevant time periods applicable under this Act or under F.L. 14-2 Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act until the Court reaches a decision.


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 11, 2008, 01:47:39 pm
You know my opinion on the issue. :)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on March 11, 2008, 02:52:47 pm

I do now!


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on March 11, 2008, 02:56:51 pm
Then you probably read the forum from top to bottom. Because I posted my point of view before you put the question here. :)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on March 12, 2008, 12:52:54 am
Then you probably read the forum from top to bottom. Because I posted my point of view before you put the question here. :)

I try skipping over all those... boring posts.  ;)


Title: Re: The Fritz Building for Forum Affairs
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on April 20, 2008, 09:00:54 am
Why was this unstickied? >:(