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Title: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, committed suicide
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on April 17, 2019, 08:21:37 AM
In the head, so it's probably fatal.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 17, 2019, 10:54:01 AM
He's dead:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47965867


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Arturo Belano on April 17, 2019, 11:24:26 AM
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Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 17, 2019, 11:39:40 AM
It's like every former President in Latin America is being arrested for something nowadays.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Hash on April 17, 2019, 12:16:36 PM
It's like every former President in Latin America is being arrested for something nowadays.

Except, you know, Álvaro Uribe, who is free tweeting about how massacres are justified and MI6 is spying on him.



Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 18, 2019, 10:53:51 AM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?



Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: PSOL on April 18, 2019, 11:09:23 AM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?


He was involved in the Odebrecht scandal, and he would have not gotten off lightly in either the eyes of public opinion or the courts.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 18, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?


He was involved in the Odebrecht scandal, and he would have not gotten off lightly in either the eyes of public opinion or the courts.

That makes the last three Presidents of Peru involved in that. Wow.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 18, 2019, 12:40:58 PM
3 consecutive former Peruvian Presidents in a row involved in this big scandal ? YIKES.

I've heard that they're going to hold a big funeral for Garcia later next week if I heard correctly.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 18, 2019, 01:41:15 PM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?


He was involved in the Odebrecht scandal, and he would have not gotten off lightly in either the eyes of public opinion or the courts.

That makes the last three Presidents of Peru involved in that. Wow.

So the only ones not involved are Fujimori and Bermudez? That's hillarious.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 18, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
It's like every former President in Latin America is being arrested for something nowadays.

Except, you know, Álvaro Uribe, who is free tweeting about how massacres are justified and MI6 is spying on him.

Of course. After all he's a hero of the war on terror and for years he defended the last bastion of freedom in South America, drowning under the socialist wave.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 18, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
List of Heads of State in Latin America engulfed in the massive Odebrecht Scandal:

1.) Former Peruvian Presidents Alejandro Toledo, Alan Garcia (deceased), Ollanta Humala & Pedro Pablo Kuczynski (who resigned from office last year).

2.) Former Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner

3.) Former Brazilian Presidents Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Dilma Rousseff & Michel Temer

4.) Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro

5.) Former Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto (he's not arrested yet).



Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: RodPresident on April 18, 2019, 10:53:12 PM
Garcia's accusations were very weak. He got U$120k from a lecture he made in Sao Paulo, he paid all taxes.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 18, 2019, 11:32:58 PM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?


He was involved in the Odebrecht scandal, and he would have not gotten off lightly in either the eyes of public opinion or the courts.

That makes the last three Presidents of Peru involved in that. Wow.

So the only ones not involved are Fujimori and Bermudez? That's hillarious.
Apparently Toledo is too and Peru is seeking his extradition from the US, so that means the last four.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Lechasseur on April 19, 2019, 04:21:18 AM
WTH just happened ? Does anybody know why Garcia offed himself ?


He was involved in the Odebrecht scandal, and he would have not gotten off lightly in either the eyes of public opinion or the courts.

That makes the last three Presidents of Peru involved in that. Wow.

So the only ones not involved are Fujimori and Bermudez? That's hillarious.
Apparently Toledo is too and Peru is seeking his extradition from the US, so that means the last four.

And his predecessor Alberto Fujimori was convicted of crimes against humanity I believe. It seems like all Peruvian presidents have done something pretty bad while in office.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 19, 2019, 04:28:54 AM
I've heard that Garcia might get a grand State funeral. Is that true ?


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: 🦀🎂🦀🎂 on April 19, 2019, 05:00:56 AM
Fujimori's daughter was also ensnared in the scandal iirc: her party now seems to be dead.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on April 19, 2019, 05:29:20 AM
Garcia's accusations were very weak. He got U$120k from a lecture he made in Sao Paulo, he paid all taxes.

Is it just me or former left-wing leaders in the region are more likely to get a harsh legal treatment than the ones from the right?


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: An American Tail: Fubart Goes West on April 19, 2019, 12:10:20 PM
He was acting really weirdly when he was in california last month. Pity that he went out like this.

Edit: I may have been confusing him with one of Peru’s other corrupt former presidents.

Edit 2: I was thinking of Alejandro Toledo. (https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Ex-Peru-president-arrested-in-California-13697605.php)


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 19, 2019, 12:57:15 PM
Garcia's accusations were very weak. He got U$120k from a lecture he made in Sao Paulo, he paid all taxes.

Is it just me or former left-wing leaders in the region are more likely to get a harsh legal treatment than the ones from the right?

Certainly true in Brazil, although I don’t think García could be considered to be particularly left-wing.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: LoneStarDem on April 19, 2019, 11:48:31 PM
Big question is whether the current Peruvian President will be next to get engulfed in corruption scandals ?


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Simfan34 on April 20, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
Big question is whether the current Peruvian President will be next to get engulfed in corruption scandals ?

My understanding is that he is probably too much of a non-entity to have even been targeted. Apparently he was simultaneously Ambassador to Canada whilst being Vice President (I haven't the faintest idea how that would have worked), so he'd have well insulated from scandal in any case.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Edu on April 21, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Apparently he was simultaneously Ambassador to Canada whilst being Vice President (I haven't the faintest idea how that would have worked)

What I gathered from a quick reading is that the only reason of existence of the Vice President of Peru is to take over the duty of President when the latter is incapacitated, dead, etc. And they have 2 Vice presidents, so one of them being ambassador to wherever shouldn't be a problem I guess.


Title: Re: Alan Garcia, former Peruvian president, shoots himself as police kick down door
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 21, 2019, 03:13:24 PM
He actually referred to himself in the third person in his own damn suicide note, which is incredible him.