Talk Elections

With Bernie on top of the ticket. Bernie can win W. Virginia in 2020. Dems have a plurality of voters. Bernie won far more voters than Clinton in 2016 primaries. If one lookat how bad Manchin ran in 2018, it because he a corporate Democrat.

Democrats will win W. Virginia by probably 20-30 in 2020 with Bernie on the thicket. He's pro single payer which is what people there like and want.

I'm not entirely sure about this prospect. Most registered Democrats in WV are socially conservative, and it may take them some time to shake the narrative of "Democrats want to take away coal jobs with no replacement" which has been fed to them by Republicans.

BERNIE was only polling well in 2016, in WVA, due to fact Justice was a Democrat and leading the field.  Bernie isn't gonna win the nomination.

It’s definitely more likely to flip than GA-PRES, a pro-corporate Democrat would struggle here though.

EDIT: Oh, and WV is one of the most E-L-A-S-T-I-C states in the country, so of course it’s possible.

If Bernie wins the nomination, WV moves to Toss-Up/Tilt D, though AZ/FL/GA/NC would immediately become Titanium R, since all minorities hate Bernie (Twitter told me so!) so they would flock to Trump, obviously.

OMG.

First of all, Sanders will NEVER be the Dem nominee for POTUS because it would result in Trump sweeping all 50 states, reducing the Dems to minor political party status.

On WV Governor's Mansion: forget about it! Let the GOP have at it.

OP needs to layoff their TYT binge lol

https://twitter.com/NathanIWinston1/status/1127712075642392576

MB, are you on ecstasy?

https://twitter.com/mcimaps/status/1127718555531862023

Bernie has a lot of appeal here, his friendship with Joe Manchin helps out a lot too (their political views are surprisingly similar). Anyway, white working class populists are dying to get back to the Democratic party, look at 2018! Perhaps a Sanders/Ojeda ticket anyone?? Overall, WV is tilt R; in a close race it could very well flip. Keep your eyes on those Mingo/McDowell county populists on election night. Mark my words.

Is this sarcasm or not? Because it's legitimately hard to tell.

Not sarcasm, if you look at the 2014 Senate - 2016 Gov - 2018 Senate trends, they are quite favorable to the Dems. I would expect them to pick up both houses of state legislature in 2020.

WV is not IA


To answer this question obviously not

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In an addendum to my previous post, I think the Democrat narrowly dodged a bullet in 2018 with Joe Manchin. Had they nominated Paula Jean-Sweargin, I think she would has at least got Jay Rockefeller numbers, possibly Robert Byrd numbers.

Okay, now you're f**king with me.

I'm not!! Watch some TYT and Cenk Uygur.

yes populists like bernie will win back WV for all eternity

Alright dude, lay off, no way you are serious lmao.

lolno

You got my, in reality the whole WV = secret socialist thing is so easy to mock is because it is one of the most ridiculous things floated on the forum. However, I still think Bernie would do better here than a Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.

The only reason Bernie did so well in the 2016 WV Dem primary was because he wasn't Clinton.

Not sure if this is parody, but while Bernie will certainly do better than Clinton did in 2016, he'll still lose, get sub-40%, and not win any counties.

He's taking the piss out of the guy who made that.

Only if the nominee is Michael Dukakis, a proven winner in West Virginia.

Why does anyone think that a state that hasn't gone D in a Presidential election since 1996 and has steadily gone R will be a pickup for any Democrat?

This thread is basically a meme.

Fr tho even Bill Clinton wouldn't get more than like 40% in WV or even AR nowadays

Safe 🅱️

Yes if Manchin runs, no otherwise.

Bernie can win this state, but he'll have to pitch "BREAD AND BUTTER" issues to the voters. Many of them are economically liberal, they just don't know it.

I'd highly suggest Bernie goes down to a few good ol' boy coal mines and gets a little dirt on the hands. Nothing like some coal smoot on the old face to get those Bush-Bush-McCain-Romney-Trump voters to reconsider things.

(If you think that last part is insane, read this: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5461322/ns/politics/t/byrd-tells-kerry-how-win-w-va/#.XOIIvlNKhJU)

Manchin still trolling the WV Governor's Mansion ?

Hopefully, Ojeda succeeds him as Senator-elect in 2024

No

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.

What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.

If by D, you mean Death, then yes, it will be a D pickup as Death will continue to pickup in WV.

No, only MT, NH, NC are in play in 2020.

I seriously do think that Trump will do worse in WV than 2016, not by a lot, but visibly worse.

I'm totally kidding. Titanium R always.

What do you think the Trump cs Biden margin would be?

I say 66-30.

That's about right. I think Sanders would be 65-31, maybe 65-30.

I probably agree.  It didn't have to be that way, but the Democrats have done all they could to make that worse, and the path back is probably blocked for them at this point.

The sad thing about the Democrats losing WV (and KY, for that matter) is the fact that these states have decent percentages of unionized workers; they are NOT part of the South.  Their voters have been, until recently, extremely elastic.  Even Robert Byrd (D-WV) voted for the 1965 and 1968. 

This thread has to be trolling.