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Title: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: darklordoftech on June 07, 2019, 12:09:16 AM
Why did he loose to both Dole and Robertson?


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: Sumner 1868 on June 07, 2019, 12:28:55 AM
Those Dutch Calvinists in the far northwestern part of the state always have high turnouts in the GOP Caucus, and I would assume they voted for Robertson overwhelmingly. Dole being from a farm state must have helped as well.


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: OSR stands with Israel on June 07, 2019, 12:42:05 AM
Especially after he win it in 1980 lol


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: Anzeigenhauptmeister on June 07, 2019, 02:05:29 AM

Isn't it something like a "tradition" or even a "running gag" that a Republican who once won an Iowa caucus can't win it a second time? I'd assume that Bush would even have lost against Ron Paul in 2004. lol


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: TheElectoralBoobyPrize on June 07, 2019, 09:10:32 AM
I've always wanted to know more about the '88 Republican primaries. Given just how popular Reagan was both with the public and Republicans, I would've thought H.W. Bush would've had a smoother path to the nomination. Granted, he still won big, but Gore won every state.


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: Some of My Best Friends Are Gay on June 07, 2019, 10:29:54 AM
Robertson obviously won due to his strong religiosity, as Iowa Republicans love religious conservatives. Dole being from Kansas probably helped him slightly as well, and perhaps Bush was just a bad fit somehow? he did lose the state by double digits to Dukakis in the general, after all.


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: darklordoftech on June 07, 2019, 07:18:07 PM
I've always wanted to know more about the '88 Republican primaries.
I did some Googleing, and I found this: https://www.nytimes.com/1988/02/09/us/dole-wins-in-iowa-with-robertson-next.html


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: Lechasseur on June 07, 2019, 07:55:40 PM
I've always wanted to know more about the '88 Republican primaries. Given just how popular Reagan was both with the public and Republicans, I would've thought H.W. Bush would've had a smoother path to the nomination. Granted, he still won big, but Gore won every state.

I think it was more the Democratic Party rallied around Gore after the Clinton Impeachment stuff, and I think they rallied around him quickly because they really feared Bush and McCain and figured that rallying around the VP was the safest thing.

Had it not been for that Gore would have gotten some challengers other than Bradley (who I think would have also been stronger).

Then for 1988, I think Bush had issues in the Upper Midwest due to the 1980s farm crisis, and that's where Dole got most of his support. Not sure why Robertson managed to get over 10% of the vote though.


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: One Term Floridian on June 08, 2019, 10:09:15 PM
Farm crisis. It also explains why Dukakis absolutely demolished him there in the general election


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: Lechasseur on June 11, 2019, 07:32:54 AM
Farm crisis. It also explains why Dukakis absolutely demolished him there in the general election

Yep exactly


Title: Re: Why did HW Bush come in 3rd in the 1988 Iowa Caucus?
Post by: UWS on June 11, 2019, 09:32:53 PM

Isn't it something like a "tradition" or even a "running gag" that a Republican who once won an Iowa caucus can't win it a second time? I'd assume that Bush would even have lost against Ron Paul in 2004. lol

That’s not true. Dole won Iowa caucuses both in 1988 and in 1996.