Talk Elections

http://www.statehousenews.com/public/Poll/ESumm.htm

State House News Poll (352 registered  voters)

Tom Reilly: 52%
Romney: 36%

William Gavin: 46%
Romney: 41%

Romney: 42%
Deval Patrick: 40%

Reilly and Gavin (if he runs) are the two Democratic "establisment" candidates, while Deval Patrick is the little known newcomer. If I was in Massachusetts, I'd be voting for Patrick in the primary. From what I've seen and read, he is an exciting candidate.

So of the three Democrats, you'd support the only one who is currently losing?  Way to go. ;)

Was that a joke?

Anyway, Patrick is by far the least known candidate and I have no problem with supporting him.  He is a progressive, reform-minded Democrat.

patrick has a horrible organization.  i dont think he will be much of a factor in the primary.

patrick has also upset some of the libs by being an outspoken supporter of one president bush's controversial ambassador nominees....i cant remember the name right off.

reilly is a boring candidate, who has a squishy position (to say the least) on gay marriage.

rommey can and would beat any of the three mentioned candidates in the poll.

You could be right, but the primary is a long ways off and he has plenty of time to make himself known.


Nah, Massachusetts is already sick of their flip-flopping governor who travels around the country insulting his own state.  He will be gone, whether he declines to run again or gets voted out.

Not really.  You posted a thread containing three polls; two showing Romney losing.  You declared your support for the only one that Romney is beating.


A progressive liberal reformer?  Just what Massachusetts needs.

(That was a joke.)

Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, Patrick is by far the least known of the candidates.

is patrick really qualified to be governor?

he was a rather low ranking lawyer in the clinton justice department.

maybe he should try for lt. gov or a state legislature seat before running for governor?

...now I KNOW you weren't quoting yourself there...yet my eyes deceive me.

You have a sharp eye.  I'd be careful next time you blink, lest you cut your eyelids off.

The sooner the Bay State gets rid of that Mormon Governor, the better. I'd support a lot of Republicans for MA governor rather than have Brigham Romney and his biblical laws remain in office.

Who is Gavin?  I don't remember hearing of him.

mass sec of state

I'd like to see a Democrat take the Governership but with significantly more Republicans in the state legislature. Too much one party dominance can be a bad thing

Dave

i doubt you will see any pickups for the republicans in the state house.

the gop is pretty uncompetitive in state house races over most of the state.

they field competitive candidates on the cape.  that is about it.

I agree with you, but until marriage rights are firmly established, the legislature must stay strongly Democrat. I'd prefer that a REAL moderate Republican become Governor. Whatever happened to Patrick Guerrero, Swift's Lieutenant Gov.? Or maybe Weld should run here instead of New York, where the polls show he is unknown and unpopular. I liked Weld.

i follow the mass state legislature pretty closely and i must say there is a pretty distinct conservative/liberal split (particularly on social issues) among the democrats.

it kind of reminds me of the old south in a lot of ways with the conservate-liberal democrat split.

Would you say that split was along religious lines? Massachussetts Protestants (31% of voters) supported Kerry (60-39) but Catholics (43% of voters) only broke (51-49) for Kerry. Jews and the non-religious broke heavily for Kerry

Dave

yes it is most certainly a religious split.  from what i can tell, most of the conservative dems in the mass legislature are devout catholics and represent primarily blue collar areas.

Despite Romney drooping out months ago, I need somewhere to post this:

Tom Reilly is in lots of trouble now because his running mate has dropped out.  It turns out she owes over $50,000 in student loans and unpaid taxes and yesterday she withdrew.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/02/02/reillys_pick_withdraws_from_race/ (http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/02/02/reillys_pick_withdraws_from_race/)

If Romney runs for re-election for Governor of Massachusetts, he wins. 

These polls are meaningless this far out.

Romney's campaigning , debating, and speaking abilities are second to none.

Hopefully, a sane legislature will be elected, and overturn this looney same sex marriage bill.   

He already stated months ago that he wouldn't run again.

OMG Republicans will landslide in Massachusetts!

Even if he was going to, he'd lose.  He's bad-mouthed the state far too often for them to stomach.

Well, we can always hope.

I officially support Romney's reelection.

I'd support a Republican Governor for MA over Reilly, just not Romney, since he is a Mormon fundamentalist. Managing the Olympics does not qualify someone for office.

reilly had a very bad week.

i dont think he has what it takes to get elected.

Too late now. Even if he decided to go back into the race, he wouln't have a chance against a dead dog, since all the Dems would have to do is to run commercials with some of his latest statements. Do you think one could be elected President of the U.S. after saying (in public and on tape) that he, actually, dislikes America, feels foreign there, and would much rather have been President of France - the country he really loves?

Chances are, GOP death in Mass is going to continue. The only Reps that are likely to win in the near-to-medium future are going to be like NYC's Bloomberg (rich liberal Democrats who don't want to earn their stripes in the local party and use the Republican line because nobody else wants it).  In the state legislature Reps are going to continue struggling to win15% of the seats -  in fact, if they consistently do worse they will be challenged for the second party status. 

Of course, in a single-party state like Mass., the only party is a broad church, including both socially conservative/economically populist blue-collar Catholics and blacks and socially liberal/economically moderate everybody else.

did anyone else notice how poorly reilly did in the local democrat conventions across mass on saturday.  deval patrick received more delegates than reilly...by a 2-1 margin.

Patrick is a candidate who gets people excited while Reilly is a status quo type machine Democrat. I think Deval Patrick has a good chance to be the next governor of Massachusetts.

you should temper your excitment, scoonie.

while reilly, twice elected to statewide office, lost to a political novice over the weekend, you sould keep two important points in mind:

1.  deval patrick is certianly more popular with the liberal activists (ie the people who actually go to local conventions on a saturday).  reilly's base is with blue collars (ie people who have lives.)

2. reilly had a *horrible* week.  his selection of a running mate proved to be a disaster.

i still think reilly will win the democrat nomination.

by the way, he is a piss poor candidate, but reilly is one of the more decent people involved in politics.

Deval Patrick is basically an unknown whose popularity is gaining the more people get to know him. Reilly has a huge leg up when it comes to name recognition and experience, but Patrick can make up the gap with his charisma and outsider appeal.

patrick is basically a latte liberal.  will the voters of mass trust him with the democrat legislature?

What do you mean by "latte liberal"?? You think a poor kid from the southside of Chicago is a "latte liberal"?

no but i think a corporate lawyer is.

hey did you see the news this past week where it was revealed that patrick had a tax lien placed against him several years ago, despite working for a prestigious boston law firm?

What a frigging retarded comment.


Yes I did. He was paying the IRS on an installment plan and missed a payment or two. He paid all of it back the next year. This won't even be an issue in the race.

i thought you democrats hated corporations?

No, only simple-minded Republicans like yourself believe such crap.

Democrats are against corporate abuse, not corporations in general. Corporations that work for the benefit of both their employees and their shareholders are a very good thing (see Costco as a good example).