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Title: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 28, 2019, 07:35:55 PM Quote COMMONWEALTH BUDGET for the Fiscal Year of 2020 REVENUE Income Tax (by tax bracket) $0K - $75K (-2%): $-14,782,096,677 $75 - $125K (0%): $-9,929,637,057 $125 - $200K (2%): $-1,817,828,865 $200K - $1M (5%): $17,164,944,312 $1M - $10M (10%): $15,153,263,189 $10M - $100M (15%): $10,080,744,669 $100M+ (20%): $3,239,003,811 Income Tax Revenues: $19,108,393,381 Excise Taxes Alcohol (15%): $13,087,791,871 Gas & Diesel ($0.30/gallon): $14,653,207,484 Tobacco (15%): $2,716,310,234 Excise Tax Revenues: $30,457,309,589 Other Taxes and Penalties Fremont Carbon Taxation Act: (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311158.0) $31,011,738,620 Green Vehicle Promotion Act § 2.ii: (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0) $3,602,574,479 Royalties Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311159.0): Coal: $2,877,687,513 Gas: $1,500,722,750 Oil: $11,355,570,000 Gaming Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285473.0): $5,100,495,700 Estate Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=288528.0): $2,337,153,746 Drug Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295457.msg6357814#msg6357814): $3,446,083,796 Lodging Facility Sales and Use Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/The_Fremont_Parks_and_Recreation_Act_of_2019): $5,091,240,579.71 Other Revenues: $61,232,026,604 FY2019 Surplus To Be Determined EXPENDITURES Tax Credits Green Vehicle Promotion Act §2.i: (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0) $1,236,935,443 Teacher's Tax Credit (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Teacher%27s_Tax_Credit_Act): $423,539,000 Mandatory Spending Medicaid Expansion Act: $0 PAACCA (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/PAACCA_Funding_Act): $600,000,000 Transparency in Law Enforcement Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=268654.msg5850183#msg5850183): $405,000,000 Fremont Railway and Pan-Regional Transport Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fremont_Railway_and_Pan-Regional_Transport_Act): $4,618,000,000 Central and Northern Pacific Railway Act of 2017 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=273552): $10,424,400,000 Private Prison Depopulation Act of 2017 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=281464.msg6015210#msg6015210): $500,000,000 Earthquake Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=283678.msg6037656#msg6037656): $50,000,000 Rural High-Speed Internet Improvement Ac (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=283675.0): $1,000,000,000 LFTR Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285424.msg6072017#msg6072017): $5,000,000,000 Innovation Prosperity Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=292299.0): $50,000,000 The Fremont Parks and Recreation Act of 2018 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=289809.msg6227878#msg6227878): $750,000,000 Bank of Fremont Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=292300.msg6258243#msg6258243): $1,540,457 Fremont Promise Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=294180.msg6290492#msg6290492): $3,350,000,000 Fremont Urban Renovation Act of 2018 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=293971.msg6290493#msg6290493): $250,000,000 Green Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_GREEN_Act): $20,000,000,000 Regional Heritage Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Sacagawea_Regional_Heritage_Act): $300,000,000 AtlasCare (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/People's_Medical_Care_and_Insurance_Act_of_2017): $0 Warren Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=272613.0): $618,750,000 Mann Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=272489.0): $150,000,000,000 Drug Education and Research (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295457.msg6357814#msg6357814): $55,000,000 Climate Change Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Climate_Change_Act): $1,000,000 Fremont Infrastructure Enhancement Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fremont_Infrastructure_Enhancement_Act): $3,000,000 FremontConnect Extension Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/FremontConnect_Extension_Act): $10,000,000,000 California Natural Disasters Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/California_Natural_Disasters_Act): $6,000,000 Better Interchanges for Fremont Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Better_Interchanges_for_Fremont_Act): $500,000,000 National Guard Funding Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/National_Guard_Funding_Act): $2,000,000,000 Fremont Rural Hospitals Act of 2019 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fremont_Rural_Hospital_Act_of_2019): $200,000,000 Korean Wars Memorial Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Korean_Wars_Memorial_Act): $5,500,000 Pacific Railway Reauthorization Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Railway_Reauthorization_Act): $10,298,400,000 Nebraska and Iowa Flood Relief Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Nebraska_and_Iowa_Flood_Relief_Act): $250,000,000 Fremont Healthy Lungs Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fremont_Healthy_Lungs_Act): $1,500,000 Fremont Farm Bill of 2019 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fremont_Farm_Bill_of_2019): $5,000,000 Fremont Parks and Recreation Act of 2019 (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/The_Fremont_Parks_and_Recreation_Act_of_2019): $20,000,000 Frémont Missing Persons and Tribal Nations Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fr%C3%A9mont_Missing_Persons_and_Tribal_Nations_Act): $1,500,000 Alaska Permanent Fund Bailout Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Alaska_Permanent_Fund_Bailout_Act): $444,000,000 Total mandatory spending: To Be Determined Discretionary Spending Total discretionary spending: To Be Determined TOTAL REVENUES: To Be Determined TOTAL EXPENDITURES: To Be Determined TOTAL SURPLUS: To Be Determined Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 28, 2019, 08:05:34 PM So this is a budget blueprint which includes all expenditures and changes to our regional tax code made since the passage of last year's budget. For reference, this is the budget that YE signed in 2019. (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=297906.msg6634172#msg6634172)
Our biggest challenge now is absorbing most state and local services, which is going to cut into our budget surplus substantially and will likely plunge us into a deficit. Budget Minister shua and myself have been researching tax revenue/expenditure figures for each state, but this is a tedious effort as not all states report these figures in a way that is easily accessible, and I'm not sure if all states have reported their figures from 2018, which is important in determining how much we might need to raise taxes in order to cover services provided by the states. Ultimately our goal is, of course, to end "triple taxation" so that people aren't paying for state, federal, and regional taxes. Centralizing local services will reduce the burden on taxpayers who are currently footing the bill for all government expenses. We started discussing this problem last April but have since been kicking the can down the road, so my priority for this session is to finish regionalization and get next year's budget passed before November. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on August 29, 2019, 05:23:53 PM I thank the first minister for bringing this to the floor.
As I recall, there was discussion in the spring of using Montana as a model for education funding. Do we have an idea of what that would look like on a regional scale? Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 29, 2019, 05:49:29 PM I thank the first minister for bringing this to the floor. As I recall, there was discussion in the spring of using Montana as a model for education funding. Do we have an idea of what that would look like on a regional scale? Here is a very brief summary of Montana's education funding model, via Google: Quote About $715 million of the state general fund is used for school funding purposes annually. The Teachers' Retirement system benefits school teachers in Montana, who pay 8.15% of their salaries into the system. School district employers contribute 8.47%, and the state pays .238% plus $25 million. https://leg.mt.gov/content/Committees/Interim/2015-2016/School-Funding/Meetings/UnderstandSchoolFinance.pdfSo what we should probably do is calculate Montana's education spending as a percentage of its overall budget and use that to determine the size of our education budget. Then we replicate Montana's pension program. I also made mention of Wyoming's model for schools in the committee thread, (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=322360) which I favor implementing regionally. Wyoming recaptures money from wealthy school districts and redistributes it to lower-income districts so that all students have access to the same quality education whether they live in rich, poor, urban, or rural communities. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 29, 2019, 07:07:20 PM So here's my thinking:
Based on my understanding of Montana's FY 2018 Budget Report (https://leg.mt.gov/content/Publications/fiscal/interim/June-2018/May-FY-2018-Budget-Report.pdf) on page 19, the total cost for funding state agencies was $1,937,087,701. Of this figure, $1,014,308,285 was requested to fund the Education Department, which is 52.36% of the total budget. This includes the Office of Public Instruction, the Board of Public Education, the Office of the Commissioner of Higher Education, the School for the Deaf and Blind, the Montana Arts Council, the Montana State Library, and the Montana Historical Society. If we were to implement Montana's funding model without making any changes, 52.36% of our budget expenditures would go towards education. Obviously we don't have a regional version of the School for the Deaf and the Blind, so that would be subtracted from the total. Same with the Montana Arts Council, the Montana State Library, and the Montana Historical Society: these would be subtracted from our base figure. But we still need to find a mechanism to fund state versions of those institutes, otherwise existing ones would shut down. I'm not sure what the solution would be for that. Perhaps a grant program? Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on August 30, 2019, 09:00:00 PM I thank the first minister; though I wonder if it would not be best to calculate funding for education as a per capita dollar amount, as opposed to a percentage? That is unless we already have an idea of the total sum required to fund all social programs. I also agree with the proposal to allocate funds to school districts on the Wyoming model.
I think a grant program would do well to fund institutions like our state libraries (and would have the added benefit of preserving local control of these funds). Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 02, 2019, 12:03:48 AM Since education is likely to be our single largest budget expenditure, I have proposed separate legislation for reorganizing our education system, so matters regarding education should be discussed there for now.
Here is a simple list of state expenditures and revenues: Alaska Total Tax [in thousands]: $1,189,786 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $9,744 Arizona Total Tax [in thousands]: $13,888,611 Total Expenditures (in millions): $42,026 California Total Tax [in thousands]: $155,632,088 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $261,217 Colorado Total Tax [in thousands]: $13,197,606 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $36,530 Hawaii Total Tax [in thousands]: $7,029,026 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $14,666 Idaho Total Tax [in thousands]: $4,511,208 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $7,471 Iowa Total Tax [in thousands]: $9,755,430 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $22,687 Minnesota Total Tax [in thousands]: $25,594,522 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $37,468 Montana Total Tax [in thousands]: $2,654,444 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $6,957 Nebraska Total Tax [in thousands]: $5,103,105 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $11,867 Nevada Total Tax [in thousands]: $8,624,618 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $13,914 New Mexico Total Tax [in thousands]: $5,776,271 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $19,586 North Dakota Total Tax (in thousands]: $3,465,326 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $6,792 Oregon Total Tax [in thousands]: $11,914,567 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $40,041 South Dakota Total Tax [in thousands]: $1,828,543 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $4,227 Utah Total Tax [in thousands]: $7,832,889 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $14,223 Washington Total Tax [in thousands]: $23,997,592 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $44,684 Wyoming Total Tax [in thousands]: $1,649,550 Total Expenditures [in millions]: $4,426 Sources: https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-state-spending/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/state-collections/?currentTimeframe=0&selectedDistributions=total&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D Total Tax Revenue: $15,078,552,000 Total Expenditures: $313,023,000,000 Total Deficit: $297,944,448,000 If my methodology is sound, we will automatically be footing the bill for $297,944,448,000. Our surplus as of last year was $181,997,845,008 and we've already spent a chunk of that, so we're definitely looking at a deficit in this next budget. And that of course is before we crunch the numbers for education spending. We ought to talk about spending cuts/tax increases at some point, but for now we need to determine just how deep in the hole we're going to be once regionalization is carried out. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on September 02, 2019, 09:41:44 PM Okay —I think at one point we had this broken down by category (education, emergency services, etc). Do we have those figures? I'm willing to help to the extent that I'm able, but I don't want to put in hours of work if someone else has already done a better job.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 02, 2019, 10:02:04 PM Okay —I think at one point we had this broken down by category (education, emergency services, etc). Do we have those figures? I'm willing to help to the extent that I'm able, but I don't want to put in hours of work if someone else has already done a better job. I don't recall that ever being discussed but Budget Minister shua did create a spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b0muy306EBe1DY7xRUlWPHawWQEiuyNO1cqawv7eSA0/edit#gid=0) for state budgets that we can add to. A budget this detailed is going to be a lot of work, so it would probably be a good idea to divide the workload by assigning each MP a list of states to research. If possible, we should set a time for everyone to meet on FremontCord and talk about which categories we're looking for and divide the list of states. Also, if anyone knows of a directory for 2017 state budgets, that would make this process a lot easier. Otherwise we'll just have to dig around for each of them. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 09, 2019, 08:29:09 AM So as I informed our MPs last night, a meeting over the budget had been planned but I was too sick to attend plus my mom needed my computer to fix some technical stuff.
I should be free for most of this week, so everyone post some times that we could all meet. If we can't agree on a good meeting time, we'll just assign state budgets for everyone to research. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 09, 2019, 08:48:54 AM Alternatively, we could just dib the states we want to research. With eighteen constituent states, three of us can research four states and two can research three states. For example, I would choose:
Wyoming Montana Nevada Colorado Research the 2017 budgets and report on how much the states spend on each department (general government, public health and human services, natural resources, transportation, judicial branch and law enforcement, education, etc.) Remember that education dollars will be pooled and redistributed to schools that need the most funding, putting us in line with Wyoming's model. Any questions, comments, concerns? Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on September 10, 2019, 05:57:27 PM I'll take the Dakotas, Minnesota, and Iowa.
It might be advisable to look into Guam, AS, and NMI as well as Congress is likely to grant these statehood shortly. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on September 14, 2019, 08:09:18 PM Bump. Currently, ten states and the external territories of Guam, AS, and NMI remain unclaimed. If the members would rather we worked through all 18 budgets as a group, that's fine too, but please say so —otherwise I will assume you are hard at work researching and will expect timely results!
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on September 21, 2019, 10:40:52 PM North Dakota 2019 (Source (https://www.nd.gov/omb/sites/omb/files/documents/agency/financial/state-budgets/docs/budget/appropbook2019-21.pdf))
$00,768,543,452 General Government $05,628,456,101 Education $04,427,658,576 Health & Human Services $00,422,623,374 Regulatory $00,481,184,307 Public Safety $00,375,303,749 Agriculture & Economic Development $01,122,082,774 Natural Resources $01,464,745,404 Transportation $14,690,597,737 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 23, 2019, 09:05:34 PM Wyoming 2017 (Source (https://wyoleg.gov/budget/2017databook.pdf))
$2,294,450,108 Education (K-12) $913,075,755 Education (UW and Colleges) $2,086,585,019 Health $525,262,805 Justice, Public Safety, and Corrections $270,781,907 Family Services $412,784,504 Employment, Economic Development, and Commerce $424,785,568 Natural Resources $392,057,033 Transportation $1,651,345,374 General Government $3,207,525,863 TOTAL Ten states and three territories still unclaimed... Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on October 01, 2019, 12:49:18 PM South Dakota 2019 (Source (https://bfm.sd.gov/budget/BiB/SD_BIB_FY2019.pdf))
$0,211,509,231 Executive Management $0,075,281,830 Department of Revenue $0,050,660,218 Agriculture $0,017,569,839 Tourism $0,093,605,753 Game, Fish, and Parks $0,000,552,675 Tribal Relations $1,010,004,913 Social Services $0,099,540,253 Health $0,045,229,775 Labor and Regulation $0,788,503,355 Education $0,068,647,320 Public Safety $0,794,063,735 Board of Regents (Public Universities) $0,025,622,361 Military $0,012,159,804 Veteran's Affairs $0,112,395,991 Corrections $0,409,721,399 Human Services $0,024,807,503 Environment and Natural Resources $0,004,570,632 Retirement System $0,004,810,010 Public Utilities $0,056,000,951 Unified Judicial System $0,011,350,591 Legislature $0,026,525,537 Attorney General $0,000,888,505 Public Lands $0,003,042,617 Secretary of State $0,049,655,034 Treasurer $0,001,301,883 Auditor $3,998,021,715 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: YE on October 10, 2019, 03:20:08 AM Wait Scott you actually thought more than like 2 people would get off their ass and research states?
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 12, 2019, 09:27:59 PM Wait Scott you actually thought more than like 2 people would get off their ass and research states? Foolishly, yes. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 12, 2019, 10:12:08 PM Montana 2019 (Source (https://budget.mt.gov/Budgets/2019_Budget))
$31,376,004 General Government $4,045,236,097 Public Health and Human Services $184,058,547 Natural Resources and Transportation $4,905,294 Judicial Branch, Law Enforcement and Justice $1,995,254,970 Education $6,260,830,912 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on October 30, 2019, 07:10:46 PM Assuming sponsorship of this, barring any objections.
Also, a friendly reminder that some people need to start pulling their weight around here. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: YE on October 31, 2019, 06:26:44 PM Scott can still sponsor as long as he's a legal resident in Fremont FYI unless standing orders changed since I was last active in the region.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 04, 2019, 12:20:01 PM Scott can still sponsor as long as he's a legal resident in Fremont FYI unless standing orders changed since I was last active in the region. In any event, the motion is accepted for want of objection. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 06, 2019, 10:36:02 PM Minnesota 2020–21 (Source (https://mn.gov/mmb/assets/gov-rec-2018-financial-summaries_tcm1059-330539.pdf))
$19,735,723 Education (K-12) $03,276,171 Higher education $03,654,669 Property tax credits $15,575,422 Health & human services $02,377,231 Public safety & judiciary $00,247,563 Transportation $00,324,443 Environment $00,122,422 Agriculture $00,410,929 Economic development, housing, & commerce $01,141,122 State government & veterans $01,255,203 Debt service $00,276,944 Capital projects & grants $48,377,842 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 15, 2019, 06:14:38 PM Bumping this for the new session.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 17, 2019, 04:55:27 PM Passing this budget needs to be our biggest immediate priority. Starting debate on this now. There's nothing to debate until all state expenditures have been calculated and tallied. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on November 17, 2019, 05:07:25 PM Passing this budget needs to be our biggest immediate priority. Starting debate on this now. There's nothing to debate until all state expenditures have been calculated and tallied. Right, I spoke too soon. Still, we shouldn't leave something this important sitting around. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 17, 2019, 05:10:26 PM Passing this budget needs to be our biggest immediate priority. Starting debate on this now. There's nothing to debate until all state expenditures have been calculated and tallied. Right, I spoke too soon. Still, we shouldn't leave something this important sitting around. We have to, because there's literally nothing which can be done or debated about the budget until all 18 states' expenditures have been calculated and integrated into the budget. Which is precisely why the budget has been left sitting around for almost 3 months now. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 17, 2019, 05:30:46 PM Passing this budget needs to be our biggest immediate priority. Starting debate on this now. There's nothing to debate until all state expenditures have been calculated and tallied. Right, I spoke too soon. Still, we shouldn't leave something this important sitting around. We have to, because there's literally nothing which can be done or debated about the budget until all 18 states' expenditures have been calculated and integrated into the budget. Which is precisely why the budget has been left sitting around for almost 3 months now. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 17, 2019, 05:33:55 PM An alternative to calculating the expenditures of every state would be to take a sample of the 21 state budgets (selected for regional variety), average out the numbers for each category of spending, and adjust it per capita to match the regional population. Thoughts?
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 11:57:57 AM California 2019–20 (Source (http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/2019-20/pdf/Enacted/BudgetSummary/SummaryCharts.pdf))
$005,336,000,000 Legislative, executive, & judicial $001,438,000,000 Business, consumer services, & housing $000,304,000,000 Transportation $003,680,000,000 Natural resources $000,193,000,000 Environmental protection $041,929,000,000 Health & human services $012,783,000,000 Corrections and rehabitation $058,308,000,000 Education (K-12) $017,502,000,000 Higher education $000,138,000,000 Labor and workforce development $001,286,000,000 Government operations $003,413,000,000 General government (non-agency dep'ts, tax relief, local gov't, statewide expenditures) $147,781,000,000 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 12:36:29 PM Arizona 2020 (Source (http://Source))
$05,171,325 Education (K-12) $01,776,759 Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System (AHCCCS) $01,131,776 Corrections $00,730,924 Economic security $00,440,900 School facilities board $00,375,839 Child safety $00,673,959 Higher education $00,092,348 Health services $00,995,269 Other $11,389,097 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 12:48:41 PM Nevada 2019–21 (Source (http://www.openbudget.nv.gov/OpenGov/ViewBudgetSummary.aep))
$06,539,748,305 Health & human services $03,554,301,289 Education $01,304,579,027 Infrastructure $00,943,077,683 Special purpose agencies $00,826,299,273 Public safety $00,713,749,857 Elected officials $00,713,749,857 Commerce & industry $00,261,335,003 Finance & administration $14,698,544,122 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 01:02:40 PM Utah 2020 (Source (https://le.utah.gov/interim/2019/pdf/00002717.pdf))
$00,150,549,000 Elected officials $00,342,177,000 Adult corrections & board of pardons $00,172,240,000 Courts $00,257,278,000 Public safety $01,700,360,000 Transportation $00,142,639,000 Other capital budgets $00,386,892,000 Debt service $00,153,337,000 Administrative & technical services $00,042,070,000 Heritage & the arts $00,337,591,000 Business, economic development, & labor $04,420,004,000 Health $00,974,748,000 Human services $00,932,406,000 Workforce & rehabilitative services $02,309,126,000 Higher education $00,293,037,000 Natural resources & energy $00,164,932,000 Agriculture & public lands $05,592,141,000 Education (K–12) $00,006,991,000 Capitol preservation board, Department of Human Resource Management, & career services $00,118,372,000 National guard & veteran affairs $00,035,096,000 Legislature $18,531,986,000 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 01:31:30 PM Hawaii 2020 (Source (https://budget.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/FB-19-21-BIB-FINAL-12.13.18.pdf))
$00,194,693,785 Accounting & general services $00,053,676,224 Agriculture $00,105,792,823 Attorney General $00,334,002,676 Business, economic development, & tourism $03,464,078,478 Budget & finance $00,090,140,332 Commerce & consumer affairs $00,109,245,761 Defense $02,114,392,207 Education $00,003,753,711 Governor $00,053,647,183 Hawaiian home lands $01,127,871,701 Health $00,026,508,852 Human resources $03,621,175,908 Human services $00,475,057,156 Labor & industrial relations $00,171,330,918 Natural resources $00,000,977,555 Lieutenant Governor $00,296,189,071 Public safety $00,036,265,728 Taxation (dep't of) $01,055,368,911 Transportation $01,244,068,690 Higher education $15,474,634,533 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on November 20, 2019, 03:53:51 PM Here's some Colorado information for "non-budget package" legislation.
DEPARTMENT FTE Corrections $10,584,303 $10,584,303 $0 $0 $0 0.0 Education 262,000,000 262,000,000 0 0 0 0.0 Governor2 10,057,960 10,057,960 0 0 0    0.0 Higher Education 218,825 218,825 0 0 0 0.0 Human Services 15,400,000 15,400,000 0 0 0    0.0 Judicial 7,417,731 7,417,731 0 0 0 0.0 Legislative 51,198,908 49,992,990 90,000 1,115,918 0    302.3  Revenue 817,000 817,000 0 0 0 0.0 TOTAL $357,694,727 $356,488,809 $90,000 $1,115,918 $0    302.3 1 Departments not included in this table do not have companion bills or placeholders as iden Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 20, 2019, 07:52:30 PM Thanks, Roblox! Would you happen to have a source for those figures?
Colorado YYYY $010,584,303 Corrections $262,000,000 Education $010,057,960 Governor $000,218,825 Higher Education $015,400,000 Human Services $000,007,417 Judicial $051,198,908 Legislative $357,694,727 TOTAL Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on November 20, 2019, 07:56:44 PM Thanks, Roblox! Would you happen to have a source for those figures? Colorado YYYY $010,584,303 Corrections $262,000,000 Education $010,057,960 Governor $000,218,825 Higher Education $015,400,000 Human Services $000,007,417 Judicial $051,198,908 Legislative $357,694,727 TOTAL Why yes! https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/19lbnarrative.pdf Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 10, 2019, 08:45:58 PM I have just introduced legislation (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=345363.msg7085053#msg7085053) to reorganize the government as four ministerial departments, exclusive of the office of the first minister: Education, Health and Human Services, Justice, and the Home Office (an umbrella ministry overseeing Commerce, Defense, Indian Affairs, Interior, Labor, and Transport). This is a pre-measure to facilitate the assumption of state expenditures in the next budget. Based on the figures provided above, I have calculated the following per-capita dollar amount for each department which we will then project onto the regional population:
These figures exclude salaries paid to state governors, legislators, &c. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 11, 2019, 09:19:32 PM Quote COMMONWEALTH BUDGET for the fiscal year of 2020 I. Revenues. ☞ Income Tax: $47,455,784,846 $0K – $125K (0%): $0 $125 – $200K (2%): $1,817,828,865 $200K – $1M (5%): $17,164,944,312 $1M – $10M (10%): $15,153,263,189 $10M – $100M (15%): $10,080,744,669 $100M+ (20%): $3,239,003,811 ☞ Excise Taxes: $30,457,309,589 Alcohol (15%): $13,087,791,871 Gas & Diesel ($0.30/gallon): $14,653,207,484 Tobacco (15%): $2,716,310,234 ☞ Misc. Taxes and Penalties: $61,232,026,604 Fremont Carbon Taxation Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311158.0): $31,011,738,620 Green Vehicle Promotion Act § 2(ii) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $3,602,574,479 Royalties Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311159.0): Coal: $2,877,687,513 Gas: $1,500,722,750 Oil: $11,355,570,000 Gaming Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285473.0): $5,100,495,700 Estate Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=288528.0): $2,337,153,746 Drug Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295457.msg6357814#msg6357814): $3,446,083,796 Lodging Facility Sales and Use Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/The_Fremont_Parks_and_Recreation_Act_of_2019): $5,091,240,579.71 ☞ FY2019 Surplus: $181,997,845,008 II. Expenditures. ☞ Tax Credits: $1,660,474,443 Green Vehicle Promotion Act §2(i) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $1,236,935,443 Teacher's Tax Credit (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Teacher%27s_Tax_Credit_Act): $423,539,000 ☞ Mandatory Spending: $206,060,590,457 (List A (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7086569#msg7086569)) ☞ Discretionary Spending: $415,502,000,000 Education: $195,282,000,000 Health and Human Services: $130,676,000,000 Justice: $36,491,000,000 Home Office: $53,053,000,000 TOTAL REVENUES: $321,142,966,047 TOTAL EXPENDITURES: $623,223,064,900 TOTAL SURPLUS: –$302,080,098,853 Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 11, 2019, 10:24:05 PM Quote List A.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 12, 2019, 05:19:46 PM Deleted one-time appropriations that were still being counted towards 2020 for some reason.
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Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 12, 2019, 08:59:04 PM Alright. Quite obviously we are going to have to find new sources of revenue in order to finance the assumption of state services: fortunately, we have many avenues of approach in this regard, as regional taxes have been relatively low hitherto.
I've taken the liberty of projecting a tiered corporate tax: this is derived from the FY2020 federal budget, adjusted for Frémont's GDP. Quote ☞ Corporate Taxes: $102,451,130,034 0-100K (0%): $0 100K-1M (15%): $789,215,734 1M-10M (21.5%): $1,523,753,700 10M+ (28%): $100,138,160,600 Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 12, 2019, 09:25:57 PM On a related note, going off share of the GDP, a Wealth Tax like the one passed by Congress earlier this year would produce ~$18,431,943,600 by my rudimentary calculations. Together with the corporate tax rates proposed above, that would still leave us with a deficit of around $210 B.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 12, 2019, 11:24:59 PM After considering all the options and running the numbers (as well as I can without a GM or a pronounced ability in mathematics), I am recommending the following tax brackets for 2020:
Quote ☞ Income Taxes $0K–125K (0%) $125–200K (5%) $200K–1M (15%) $1M–10M (30%) $10M–100M (45%) $100M+ (60%) ☞ Corporate Taxes $0–100K (0%) $100K–1M (20%) $1M–10M (40%) $10M+ (60%) ☞ Misc. Taxes Estate Tax (50%) This would leave the region with a surplus of slightly more than $10 billion. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 15, 2019, 01:03:14 AM those income tax rates are too high, remembering they are on top of federal income tax. The top tax bracket would be paying about 110% in income tax under this proposal.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 15, 2019, 03:09:40 AM those income tax rates are too high, remembering they are on top of federal income tax. The top tax bracket would be paying about 110% in income tax under this proposal. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 15, 2019, 10:18:20 AM those income tax rates are too high, remembering they are on top of federal income tax. The top tax bracket would be paying about 110% in income tax under this proposal. What I would suggest is in addition a small Sales Tax, perhaps 4-5%. Such a Sales Tax would still be the same or less than is currently levied on Sales in all but 4 states. Such a Consumption Tax would still mean Fremont has by far the lowest Consumption Tax rate in the Western World, remembering the average rate in Europe is around 20%. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 15, 2019, 10:51:53 AM Quote ☞ Income Taxes Proposing an amendment. If we can get a rough idea of where this would leave us in surplus/deficit terms I'd then be happy to increase/decrease tax rates accordingly.$0K–100K (0%) $100–250K (5%) $250K–1M (10%) $1M–10M (20%) $10M+ (30%) ☞ Corporate Taxes $0–100K (0%) $100K–1M (20%) $1M–10M (40%) $10M+ (60%) ☞ Sales Tax Value Added Tax upon Goods and Services (4%) ☞ Excise Taxes Alcohol (10%) Tobacco (30%) Gas ($0.20/gallon) Diesel ($0.00/gallon) ☞ Misc. Taxes Estate Tax (50%) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 16, 2019, 02:53:03 AM Why has the estate tax been slashed? You can't justify that with the same argument re: income, and at present the tax only applies to inheritances after the first $10 million dollars. It's not a huge source of revenue, but if you're going to slash income tax rates for the uber-wealthy you are in no position to be turning away billions of dollars. I am similarly perplexed as to why you are proposing a cut to the alcohol tax while raising the gasoline tax.
For obvious reasons, I am not a fan of the sales tax, and I'd like to see the math to demonstrate that the original proposal would result in the top bracket forking over 100% of their incomes when combined with federal taxes. (At risk of appearing condescending, the member does realize the 60% rate only applies after the first $10 M?) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 16, 2019, 06:23:23 AM Why has the estate tax been slashed? You can't justify that with the same argument re: income, and at present the tax only applies to inheritances after the first $10 million dollars. It's not a huge source of revenue, but if you're going to slash income tax rates for the uber-wealthy you are in no position to be turning away billions of dollars. Quote I am similarly perplexed as to why you are proposing a cut to the alcohol tax while raising the gasoline tax. The Alcohol tax is a pure sin tax on bad behaviour, while the gas tax is to encourage manufacturers to produce more efficient cars and consumers to switch to more fuel efficient cars and move to electric cars.Quote For obvious reasons, I am not a fan of the sales tax, and I'd like to see the math to demonstrate that the original proposal would result in the top bracket forking over 100% of their incomes when combined with federal taxes. (At risk of appearing condescending, the member does realize the 60% rate only applies after the first $10 M?) A small sales tax of a few percent is entirely reasonable. With a rate of 4% Fremont would still have by far the lowest Sales Tax rate in the OECD. And 90% of Fremonters are already paying state sales taxes that are levied at 4% minimum, with most being far higher. A balance of income taxes and consumption taxes is important in any nation to ensure that the tax system both works to reduce inequality while also incentivising economic growth.And any complaint about sales taxes being inherently opposed to reducing inequality is utter nonsense. What nations in the world have the highest consumption tax rates? The nordic countries, with their 25% VAT. And as the Nordic economies have long proven, a balance of income taxes and consumption taxes is needed to balance the needs of reducing inequality with increasing economic growth. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: PSOL on December 16, 2019, 01:53:46 PM I much prefer the tax plan introduced by Harry Truman, they are much more progressive in their nature. An added VAT and sales tax is a regressive tax on the lower classes, something I won’t have.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 16, 2019, 03:49:34 PM I much prefer the tax plan introduced by Harry Truman, they are much more progressive in their nature. An added VAT and sales tax is a regressive tax on the lower classes, something I won’t have. It's not an additional sales tax. Almost every state already has a Sales Tax, and under my plan about 90% of Fremonters would see a decrease in their Sales Tax rate, most quite significantly. And a VAT is not a regressive tax on the poor, that's just a moronic talking point with no basis in reality. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 16, 2019, 05:33:38 PM People' don't have to drink. Most do have to make regular use of an automobile that runs on gasoline. The effect of an increase to the gasoline tax will be to put more pressure on commuters, not manufacturers. If the intent is to encourage development of affordable electric cars, regulation and subsidies are the correct way forward.
The sales tax is a flat tax targeting consumption: its effects are thus obviously more keenly felt by the poor (who have little capital to spare) than the wealthy (who are essentially unaffected by it). Picking up the line with regard to behavior incentivized by the tax code, I would much rather discourage wealth inequality than consumer spending —but perhaps that's just me. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 16, 2019, 07:12:23 PM The sales tax is a flat tax targeting consumption: its effects are thus obviously more keenly felt by the poor (who have little capital to spare) than the wealthy (who are essentially unaffected by it). Picking up the line with regard to behavior incentivized by the tax code, I would much rather discourage wealth inequality than consumer spending —but perhaps that's just me. A 4% sales tax remains incredibly small. It will still be a significant tax cut for the vast majority of Fremonters. And it is accepted economic fact that consumption taxes boost economic growth. Consumption Taxes incentivise savings and investment, both behaviours that improve the economic welfare of all citizens. Why shouldn't we be encouraging people to save more of their earnings? Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 16, 2019, 08:07:11 PM Again, (to recap what was said on FrémontCord), I will need to see actual numbers before I sign on to any alternate plan, but as for claims that a sales tax will encourage consumers to save more and spend less: (a) that is not necessarily always a good thing in terms of pushing growth; and (b) the people who would be primarily incentivized to spend less by a sales tax are the poor and lower middle class. Forgive me if I dispute the premise that raising their taxes is the best way to increase their economic security.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸 on December 23, 2019, 12:18:42 AM I think that the idea of a regional sales tax is a little silly. I don't think that it's the responsibility of the region to implement sales taxes onto the people. Frémont is a vast region of people who live vastly different lives. I don't think a Californian, a Wyomingite, an Alaskan, an Iowan, and an American Samoan should have the same tax rate. Those five states are quite different when it comes to their economies, structure, and way of living. Be it either a VAT or a traditional sales tax, there isn't a simple one-size-fits-all rate, unless you want to have the states stack their sales taxes on top of the 4%, which defeats the purpose of having it so low. When I go to my local grocery store and buy a soft drink for $1, Black Hawk County and Iowa taxes could kick in and make that $1.04 cup of pop turn into a soft drink that would cost a little more, maybe $1.09 or something like that. Granted, economics and numbers aren't my number one skill, but I think that there could be a caliber of disaster indicated by the presence of a region-wide sales tax in our commonwealth.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 23, 2019, 12:50:36 AM I think that the idea of a regional sales tax is a little silly. I don't think that it's the responsibility of the region to implement sales taxes onto the people. Frémont is a vast region of people who live vastly different lives. I don't think a Californian, a Wyomingite, an Alaskan, an Iowan, and an American Samoan should have the same tax rate. Those five states are quite different when it comes to their economies, structure, and way of living. Be it either a VAT or a traditional sales tax, there isn't a simple one-size-fits-all rate, unless you want to have the states stack their sales taxes on top of the 4%, which defeats the purpose of having it so low. When I go to my local grocery store and buy a soft drink for $1, Black Hawk County and Iowa taxes could kick in and make that $1.04 cup of pop turn into a soft drink that would cost a little more, maybe $1.09 or something like that. Granted, economics and numbers aren't my number one skill, but I think that there could be a caliber of disaster indicated by the presence of a region-wide sales tax in our commonwealth. We've absorbed all state revenue and expenditures. The entire region is going to have an identical tax structure, and separate states can no longer levy their own taxes. That's why I'm suggesting a small 4% VAT as a least change proposal. It will simply replace the existing sales taxes, and it will still be a sales tax cut for the vast majority of Fremonters. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸 on December 23, 2019, 01:08:37 AM I think that the idea of a regional sales tax is a little silly. I don't think that it's the responsibility of the region to implement sales taxes onto the people. Frémont is a vast region of people who live vastly different lives. I don't think a Californian, a Wyomingite, an Alaskan, an Iowan, and an American Samoan should have the same tax rate. Those five states are quite different when it comes to their economies, structure, and way of living. Be it either a VAT or a traditional sales tax, there isn't a simple one-size-fits-all rate, unless you want to have the states stack their sales taxes on top of the 4%, which defeats the purpose of having it so low. When I go to my local grocery store and buy a soft drink for $1, Black Hawk County and Iowa taxes could kick in and make that $1.04 cup of pop turn into a soft drink that would cost a little more, maybe $1.09 or something like that. Granted, economics and numbers aren't my number one skill, but I think that there could be a caliber of disaster indicated by the presence of a region-wide sales tax in our commonwealth. We've absorbed all state revenue and expenditures. The entire region is going to have an identical tax structure, and separate states can no longer levy their own taxes. That's why I'm suggesting a small 4% VAT as a least change proposal. It will simply replace the existing sales taxes, and it will still be a sales tax cut for the vast majority of Fremonters. Gotcha. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 26, 2019, 11:18:16 PM We're in the home stretch, folks! I'm invoking my right as president of parliament to call a 48-hour principle vote on the two tax plans; whichever is adopted will then become the final version of the budget. This will allow us to have a budget in place before the New Year, ensuring Frémont is on sound fiscal footing as we enter the next decade!
Quote from: FT 13.01-01 (principle vote on tax plans) Instructions: The vote will last forty-eight (48) hours or until one option has the votes of a majority of sitting MFPs. Mark your ballot to indicate the plan you prefer for adoption with the commonwealth budget for the fiscal year of 2020. [ ] Option 1: Truman Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7088379#msg7088379) [ ] Option 2: Australian Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7091683#msg7091683) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 26, 2019, 11:18:43 PM Quote from: FT 13.01-01 (principle vote on tax plans) Instructions: The vote will last forty-eight (48) hours or until one option has the votes of a majority of sitting MFPs. Mark your ballot to indicate the plan you prefer for adoption with the commonwealth budget for the fiscal year of 2020. [ X ] Option 1: Truman Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7088379#msg7088379) [ ] Option 2: Australian Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7091683#msg7091683) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 26, 2019, 11:21:14 PM Instructions: The vote will last forty-eight (48) hours or until one option has the votes of a majority of sitting MFPs. Mark your ballot to indicate the plan you prefer for adoption with the commonwealth budget for the fiscal year of 2020. [ ] Option 1: Truman Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7088379#msg7088379) [ X ] Option 2: Australian Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7091683#msg7091683) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on December 26, 2019, 11:30:46 PM Quote from: FT 13.01-01 (principle vote on tax plans) Instructions: The vote will last forty-eight (48) hours or until one option has the votes of a majority of sitting MFPs. Mark your ballot to indicate the plan you prefer for adoption with the commonwealth budget for the fiscal year of 2020. [ X ] Option 1: Truman Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7088379#msg7088379) [ ] Option 2: Australian Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7091683#msg7091683) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: PSOL on December 27, 2019, 12:11:04 AM [X ] Option 1: Truman Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7088379#msg7088379) [ ] Option 2: Australian Plan (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7091683#msg7091683) Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 27, 2019, 12:23:28 AM Lovely! With a majority of members in favor, the Truman plan is adopted.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 27, 2019, 12:43:07 AM Quote COMMONWEALTH BUDGET for the fiscal year of 2020 I. Revenues. ☞ Income Tax: $141,458,440,106 $0K – $125K (0%): $0 $125 – $200K (5%): $4,544,572,163 $200K – $1M (15%): $51,494,832,936 $1M – $10M (30%): $45,459,789,567 $10M – $100M (45%): $30,242,234,007 $100M+ (60%): $9,717,011,433 ☞ Corporate Taxes: $222,721,286,871 $0 – 100K (0%): $0 $100K – 1M (20%): $1,052,287,645 $1M – 10M (40%): $7,087,226,512 $10M+ (60%): $214,581,772,714 ☞ Excise Taxes: $30,457,309,589 Alcohol (15%): $13,087,791,871 Gas & Diesel ($0.30/gallon): $14,653,207,484 Tobacco (15%): $2,716,310,234 ☞ Misc. Taxes and Penalties: $64,747,757,223 Fremont Carbon Taxation Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311158.0): $31,011,738,620 Green Vehicle Promotion Act § 2(ii) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $3,602,574,479 Royalties Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311159.0): Coal: $2,877,687,513 Gas: $1,500,722,750 Oil: $11,355,570,000 Gaming Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285473.0): $5,100,495,700 Estate Tax (50%): $5,852,884,365 Drug Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295457.msg6357814#msg6357814): $3,446,083,796 Lodging Facility Sales and Use Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/The_Fremont_Parks_and_Recreation_Act_of_2019): $5,091,240,579.71 ☞ FY2019 Surplus: $181,997,845,008 II. Expenditures. ☞ Tax Credits: $1,660,474,443 Green Vehicle Promotion Act §2(i) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $1,236,935,443 Teacher's Tax Credit (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Teacher%27s_Tax_Credit_Act): $423,539,000 ☞ Mandatory Spending: $206,060,590,457 (List A (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7086569#msg7086569)) ☞ Discretionary Spending: $415,502,000,000 Education: $195,282,000,000 Health and Human Services: $130,676,000,000 Justice: $36,491,000,000 Home Office: $53,053,000,000 TOTAL REVENUES: $641,382,638,797 TOTAL EXPENDITURES: $623,223,064,900 TOTAL SURPLUS: $18,159,573,897 Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 27, 2019, 12:44:26 AM I move for a final vote.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 27, 2019, 02:32:46 AM Objection
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 27, 2019, 10:55:36 PM Okay, then, I guess we're voting on cloture. Not sure why an objection was necessary when we already know a majority support's this version of the budget and no new concerns were raised to justify shutting down the government for the first bit of 2020, but hey, I'm not your maker!
Members will vote Aye, Nay, or abstain. Voting will last 48 hours or until the necessary majority is reached. Aye! Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 27, 2019, 11:03:16 PM Okay, then, I guess we're voting on cloture. Not sure why an objection was necessary when we already know a majority support's this version of the budget and no new concerns were raised to justify shutting down the government for the first bit of 2020, but hey, I'm not your maker! I am the opposition after all. My job is to provide opposition to some degree, at least. There's many things you can criticise me for, but providing opposition as the only non-left member really shouldn't be one of them. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 27, 2019, 11:05:10 PM Nay
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 27, 2019, 11:07:34 PM Okay, then, I guess we're voting on cloture. Not sure why an objection was necessary when we already know a majority support's this version of the budget and no new concerns were raised to justify shutting down the government for the first bit of 2020, but hey, I'm not your maker! I am the opposition after all. My job is to provide opposition to some degree, at least. There's many things you can criticise me for, but providing opposition as the only non-left member really shouldn't be one of them. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: PSOL on December 27, 2019, 11:27:10 PM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on December 27, 2019, 11:31:33 PM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 27, 2019, 11:32:58 PM Withdrawing this because I forgot our budget term is the Calendar Year (rather than the financial year) so I forgot that we go into shutdown in four days time.
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸 on December 27, 2019, 11:40:22 PM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 28, 2019, 12:18:34 AM Withdrawing this because I forgot our budget term is the Calendar Year (rather than the financial year) so I forgot that we go into shutdown in four days time. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 28, 2019, 12:21:35 AM With four members in favor and one opposed, the motion carries; we will now move toward a vote. Members will vote Aye, Nay, or abstain. Voting will last 48 hours or until all members have voted.
Aye! Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on December 28, 2019, 12:22:52 AM Aye
And I would note that the Honourable First Minister may have been mildly hyperbolic in his fears of this cloture vote threatening a government shutdown, given we have resolved the matter in under 2 hours. Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: PSOL on December 28, 2019, 12:25:19 AM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸 on December 29, 2019, 07:59:59 AM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Roblox on December 29, 2019, 02:29:46 PM Aye
Title: Re: FT 13-01: Commonwealth Budget for FY2020 (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on December 29, 2019, 10:02:17 PM With five members in favor and none opposed, and with two days to spare, the resolution carries!
Quote COMMONWEALTH BUDGET for the fiscal year of 2020 I. Revenues. ☞ Income Tax: $141,458,440,106 $0K – $125K (0%): $0 $125 – $200K (5%): $4,544,572,163 $200K – $1M (15%): $51,494,832,936 $1M – $10M (30%): $45,459,789,567 $10M – $100M (45%): $30,242,234,007 $100M+ (60%): $9,717,011,433 ☞ Corporate Taxes: $222,721,286,871 $0 – 100K (0%): $0 $100K – 1M (20%): $1,052,287,645 $1M – 10M (40%): $7,087,226,512 $10M+ (60%): $214,581,772,714 ☞ Excise Taxes: $30,457,309,589 Alcohol (15%): $13,087,791,871 Gas & Diesel ($0.30/gallon): $14,653,207,484 Tobacco (15%): $2,716,310,234 ☞ Misc. Taxes and Penalties: $64,747,757,223 Fremont Carbon Taxation Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311158.0): $31,011,738,620 Green Vehicle Promotion Act § 2(ii) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $3,602,574,479 Royalties Act (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=311159.0): Coal: $2,877,687,513 Gas: $1,500,722,750 Oil: $11,355,570,000 Gaming Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=285473.0): $5,100,495,700 Estate Tax (50%): $5,852,884,365 Drug Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=295457.msg6357814#msg6357814): $3,446,083,796 Lodging Facility Sales and Use Tax (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/The_Fremont_Parks_and_Recreation_Act_of_2019): $5,091,240,579.71 ☞ FY2019 Surplus: $181,997,845,008 II. Expenditures. ☞ Tax Credits: $1,660,474,443 Green Vehicle Promotion Act §2(i) (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=300361.0): $1,236,935,443 Teacher's Tax Credit (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Amendment_to_the_Teacher%27s_Tax_Credit_Act): $423,539,000 ☞ Mandatory Spending: $206,060,590,457 (List A (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=332285.msg7086569#msg7086569)) ☞ Discretionary Spending: $415,502,000,000 Education: $195,282,000,000 Health and Human Services: $130,676,000,000 Justice: $36,491,000,000 Home Office: $53,053,000,000 TOTAL REVENUES: $641,382,638,797 TOTAL EXPENDITURES: $623,223,064,900 TOTAL SURPLUS: $18,159,573,897 () done at the City of Denver, this day 29 December 2019 |