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Title: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: coolface1572 on October 07, 2019, 06:03:25 pm
Hello Everyone.
I am starting this thread to see if I have the complete list of every third party (or non major party) candidate which won a state in a presidential election year.

I am defining a third party candidate as any candidate who wasn't the official nominee of the Republican, Democratic, Whig, National Republican, Federalist, or Democratic-Republican parties.

George Wallace-1968 American Independent Party
Harry Byrd/Unpleged-1960 "Democratic"
Strom Thurmond 1948-Dixiecrat
Robert Lafollette 1924-Progressive
Theodore Roosevelt 1912- Progressive
James Weaver 1892 Populist
John Bell 1860 Constitutional Union
John Breckinridge 1860 Southern Democrats
Millard Fillmore 1856 Know Nothing (though endorsed by remnants of Whigs)
William Wirt 1832 Anti Masonic

Did I miss any?
Also did these parties ever run other candidates?


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: coolface1572 on October 07, 2019, 06:16:39 pm
Update.
I think I know some of the others who ran candidates.
The American Independent party is still around and has actually ran or supported a candidate in every election since '68.

Donald Trump 2016
Tom Hoefling 2012
Allen Keyes 2008 (Middle finger to Obama)
Michael Peroutka 2004
Howard Phillips 2000
Howard Phillips 1996
Howard Phillips 1992
James C Griffin 1988 (Who is this guy? and Why did they support him over David Duke of the Populist party (the 80s populist party of course)?)
Bob Richards 1984
John Rarick 1980
Lester Maddox 1976 (Middle finger to Jimmy Carter)
John G Schmitz 1972
And of course George Wallace 1968

The 1912 progressive party actually endorsed Roosevelt in 1916 and even chose John M Parker as his running mate, but Roosevelt denied the nomination. Still, progressive unpledged slates were on the ballot in a few states.

The 1890s populist party
Thomas Watson 1908
Thomas Watson 1904
Warton Barker 1900
William Jennings Bryan 1896 (But chose different running mate)

Any others?


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: morgankingsley on October 07, 2019, 07:00:49 pm
What is really interesting is that Thurmond has the lowest percentage over all for a candidate who won at least one state, BUT due to him only running in the south, he ended up getting 17 percent of the on ballot popular vote, and therefore actually only loses to Perot and Roosevelt for most successful over all in popular vote percentage and in terms of electoral vote only loses to Wallace and Roosevelt, so in a way Thurmond was actually the third most successful third party candidacy ever


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: coolface1572 on October 07, 2019, 07:49:09 pm
Thurmond's support was interesting as he did extremely well in the states he won and got absolutely crushed everywhere else. His best state that he didn't win was Georgia, where he only got 20%. This was likely because many upper south politicians wanted to still maintain an influence within the national party.
Also here is how I think Thurmond-like voters went in every election after.
1952 and 1956- Mostly Stevenson, though some definitely supported Eisenhower. (Including Strom himself.)
1960- Kennedy or unpledged
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace (Though Strom himself supported Nixon)
1972 Nixon
1976 Hard to say. The suburbs in the deep south favored Ford, but everything else favored Carter.
1980 Similar to 76 actually. Reagan won all but two southern states, but most were by only 1-3 percent.
1984 and 1988 GOP
1992 and 1996 GOP, but Clinton probably got a few.
I think we all know who won them after.


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: DabbingSanta on October 07, 2019, 08:17:07 pm
Thurmond's support was interesting as he did extremely well in the states he won and got absolutely crushed everywhere else. His best state that he didn't win was Georgia, where he only got 20%. This was likely because many upper south politicians wanted to still maintain an influence within the national party.
Also here is how I think Thurmond-like voters went in every election after.
1952 and 1956- Mostly Stevenson, though some definitely supported Eisenhower. (Including Strom himself.)
1960- Kennedy or unpledged
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace (Though Strom himself supported Nixon)
1972 Nixon
1976 Hard to say. The suburbs in the deep south favored Ford, but everything else favored Carter.
1980 Similar to 76 actually. Reagan won all but two southern states, but most were by only 1-3 percent.
1984 and 1988 GOP
1992 and 1996 GOP, but Clinton probably got a few.
I think we all know who won them after.


most of them are deceased now


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: Delegate Weatherboy1102 on October 07, 2019, 08:55:51 pm
Thurmond's support was interesting as he did extremely well in the states he won and got absolutely crushed everywhere else. His best state that he didn't win was Georgia, where he only got 20%. This was likely because many upper south politicians wanted to still maintain an influence within the national party.
Also here is how I think Thurmond-like voters went in every election after.
1952 and 1956- Mostly Stevenson, though some definitely supported Eisenhower. (Including Strom himself.)
1960- Kennedy or unpledged
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace (Though Strom himself supported Nixon)
1972 Nixon
1976 Hard to say. The suburbs in the deep south favored Ford, but everything else favored Carter.
1980 Similar to 76 actually. Reagan won all but two southern states, but most were by only 1-3 percent.
1984 and 1988 GOP
1992 and 1996 GOP, but Clinton probably got a few.
I think we all know who won them after.


most of them are deceased now
Yeah, they'd have to be in their 90's by now at least. Of course, Strom himself managed to get just over the line and turn 100, while still in office (though leaving by that point)


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on October 09, 2019, 07:10:21 pm
Thurmond's support was interesting as he did extremely well in the states he won and got absolutely crushed everywhere else. His best state that he didn't win was Georgia, where he only got 20%. This was likely because many upper south politicians wanted to still maintain an influence within the national party.
Also here is how I think Thurmond-like voters went in every election after.
1952 and 1956- Mostly Stevenson, though some definitely supported Eisenhower. (Including Strom himself.)
1960- Kennedy or unpledged
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace (Though Strom himself supported Nixon)
1972 Nixon
1976 Hard to say. The suburbs in the deep south favored Ford, but everything else favored Carter.
1980 Similar to 76 actually. Reagan won all but two southern states, but most were by only 1-3 percent.
1984 and 1988 GOP
1992 and 1996 GOP, but Clinton probably got a few.
I think we all know who won them after.


most of them are deceased now
Yeah, they'd have to be in their 90's by now at least. Of course, Strom himself managed to get just over the line and turn 100, while still in office (though leaving by that point)

IIRC there was some discussion of Thurmond voters on this forum during the 2008 election. The answer to the question of "where are they now" is "mostly dead" because the youngest Thurmond voters are 92 (remember that the voting age was 21 back then).


Title: Re: Every third party which won a state in a presidential election
Post by: DINGO Joe on October 09, 2019, 07:15:37 pm
Update.
I think I know some of the others who ran candidates.
The American Independent party is still around and has actually ran or supported a candidate in every election since '68.

Allen Keyes 2008 (Middle finger to Obama)

Lester Maddox 1976 (Middle finger to Jimmy Carter)


Yeah the AIP really showed them.