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https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2019/10/18/ca-rep.-katie-hill-allegedly-involved-female-staffer-2-yr-throuple-relationship

(It's Red State yes...but there's lots of photo evidence.)

Basically she started including one of her female staffers in a polyamorous relationship with her and her husband, ot to dump her to "focus on her Congressional career", when in fact she started having an affair with her Finance Director. Her husband found out and filed for divorce and all of this leaked possibly from her now estranged husband.

She should stand down in 2020 based on this I'd say.

Why should she stand down?

It was a consensual relationship and it started before she became a congresswoman. Hill seems to actually be the victim here as this is a major violation of her privacy. Plus, it seems that the only places picking it up are right-wing outlets.

She could actually sue on the basis of revenge porn.

As long as relationships are consensual among adults, nobody should care. It's none of the public's business.

If she and her husband were both fine with the throuple, that's cool. What's not cool is the third member of the throuple being one of her subordinates and her sleeping with someone else on her staff her husband didn't know about. It's an abuse of power and she should resign.

Neither her husband or the young staffer consented to her affair with her Finance Director.

Damn.....she a freak

Honestly, she's just living her best bi life.

Regarding the second relationship, it's still her private life, it was consensual, and the source is a right-wing outlet. Whether she broke any rules (it does not appear that she did) that'll be between her and house leadership.

It doesn't speak well of her character that she ruptured with her husband, but unless the relationship with the Finance Director was nonconsensual, it's not abuse of power.

Sleeping with a subordinate is the textbook example of an abuse of power.

FF.

Leading a subordinate on, and then dumping her to have another affair while also cheating on who you're married to is totally a fight for freedom, right? ::)

David Vitter, total FF!

Do you believe in the "freedom of choice?"

This.  It's the employer/employee dynamic that makes this a problem.

If the President of the United States refuses to step down for breaking the law, then why should a member of Congress step down for doing nothing illegal?

Yes and I also believe people who make bad choices can be held accountable.

That's like comparing apples to spaceships.

That is something that could call into question one's ability to govern fairly for all citizens.

Politicians sex life are not my business, so I don’t care about that part.

The problem here is that it involves 2 staff of her and some people (=her husband and the other 2 and via the article now the whole world) have nude pictures of her, which makes her a target of blackmail.

Don’t know if she can stay in office because of it (or should) ...

Tricky situation.

And affairs also do as they could be used as blackmail evidence. This is why the FBI used to fire anyone who was found to be having one. Same principle with David Petraeus too.

The fact that Trump has eroded standards is not an argument for giving up on them entirely, it's also stupid whataboutery.

The time for this sort of outrage is long past.

If Clinton didn't make it so, then Gingrich/Livingston did. If not them DesJarlais. If not him, Vitter's re-election in 2010.

Sad state of affairs, pretty much the inevitable conclusion of the "hook-up" culture, but it's just the reality now.

So Katie likes to be a part of a several rather than a few or a couple, big whoop at this point.

Petraeus actually told information to his mistress. Classified and law enforcement positions are a lot more sensitive than other ones. I see know reason why a resignation is necessary. Get a life and some business of your own.

And I mentioned Trump because even some Democrats think that it's too over the top to expect him to resign, but will call for a Democrat to resign over much less.

Well I think Trump should resign and support impeaching him. So I'm not one of those people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Souder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Mahoney

Must be embarrassing for her to have all that info in the public, especially that picture.

So all politicians should be automatically disqualified for having an affair?

Talk about an overkill.

I absolutely don't care if Hill is in a polyamorous relationship.
And I don't really care if she cheated on her husband.

But it sounds like she was sleeping with multiple staffers.  Which is either nepotism or abuse of power or both, and very much not cool.

Hill should announce the she is resigning on whatever day Trump chooses to resign for the multitude of instances of much worse abuse he has committed.

Mahoney didn't resign. If voters think that this is a disqualifying transgression then by all means they should oust Hill with their votes.

Eh. I don't think it's a big deal unless bigger and less partisan outlets pick this up. The only entities that are really pushing this story are right wingers like RedState and Comfortably Smug, and they aren't exactly the most trustworthy sources. Even photographs can be be easily edited.

So needless to say I'm skeptical.

Would you be saying this if it were Daily Kos, or Slate, or Mother Jones, or Salon, or the Huffington Post, or Vox reporting on this? "Right-wing" outlets aren't all to be regarded with opprobrium, and some, such as the National Review, are highly regarded.

And for the record, the outlets that I just named are just as partisan and biased as RedState is. Bias exists from both the left and the right.

Found this while browsing r/LosAngeles
Funny stuff.
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Safe D->Lean D

Not surprised she’s a creepy degenerate. Won’t matter for her re-elect chances though because her district would vote now for a corpse if the democrats ran one, all because Orange Man Says Mean Things.

Yes?

No because these outlets don't have a well-established history of posting fabricated lies.

That's interesting considering your state almost sent a racist pedophile to the senate just because he had an R next to his name.

There goes her chances of being a future senator

This increases her chances lol.

"If it's on the internet, it must be true!"

ftfy

If true, then Hill should obviously resign immediately (and many of the folks defending her would likely be singing a very different tune were Hill a Republican) or at the very least certainly should not run for reelection, but I'd like to see if this gets reported by a credible source or two first*, especially given what we've seen with the false allegations against Gil Cisneros last cycle and Bob Menendez in 2012.  So far I haven't seen this anywhere except red state and one of its sister websites, so I'm gonna withhold judgement for now.  

*Sidenote #1: I'm curious whether Red State is selectively editing which texts to share because there were at least two occasions - most blatant being the articles claim that the texts show the aide to have been completely distraught - where they flat out lied about what the text exchanges showed.  

Sidenote #2: Red State did a really sh!tty thing by publishing some of those pictures.  It added nothing to the story that sort of sleazy invasion of privacy really underscores the degree to which they are bad-faith actors, even if every detail of the scandal turns out to be exactly as they presented it (which already does not appear to be the case in at least some minor aspects).

She should resign no earlier than Donald Trump does for adultery

What really should matter is whether a politician does her/his job well, and disqualifying such person because of having an affair is just stupid, as long as said affair doesn't interfere with her or his performance. When you start to enforce an inflexible "personal morality" limitus test, it's going to do more damage than good.

In Hill's case, while sleeping with your staffer is pretty problematic (and if there's an indication of professionally inappropriate conduct, then she should resign), I'm not even sure we could call it an "affair", given she apparently is in open marriage.

Yellowhammer gonna yellowhammer.

Because, to paraphrase LBJ, he is OUR baby killer.

So you’re going to impeach her too? Give me a Xanax ::) I don’t care about any of this stuff as long as she’s doing a good job. No one’s perfect, and her private life is certainly none of our business. #BetterToHaveThrouplesThanTroubles

That is not what I'm referring to as an affair. It's the one she had with her finance director without the staffer or her husband's consent. She basically cheated on two people.

She’s living out the stereotypes of us bisexuals. Even better in my book!

Didn't you hear though?
She wants to impeach Trump.
>tossup.

It's kind of reassuring that even in a thread about a Democrat doing something sh***y and some Democrats wrongfully defending it there is still a Republican poster around to remind us that they are the cartoon villains no matter what. :P

They shouldn't, and if I lived in his district I would never vote for him.

My read of the story was that she first put a woman on her staff that she and her husband were already sleeping with.  Separately, she later started sleeping with another man on her staff without her husband’s knowledge.  The second would be the “affair”.  

But I don’t really think her relationship with husband has anything to do with what makes this problematic.  It’s her professional relationship with the other two people.

I honestly feel the same way about Republicans as Yellowhammer feels about Democrats. Unfortunately, most on the left wouldn't agree with me, because they're spineless.

She actually did a documentary with VICE who filmed her run for Congress. I see the guy she's currently dating in there along with her husband featured prominently. The female staffer is probably in there as well but don't recognize her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MeTpDByEw&t=670s

These giant quotes & quote chains are making me dizzy.

As for the actual story, eh. This is the only place I've seen the story pop up (Not even my California newsletter cares enough to talk about it). Seems to only be a handful of hard-right sites bringing it up.

Not to mention, everyone involved seems to be consensual about it. So what's the story other than "Married couple sleeps with other people with proper consent"? Family values? Is it adultery if both spouses are on the same page about it? The only part of the story I see remotely damning is that she was sleeping with staffers. I don't want to see its all cause shes female, but I do have that inkling.

I'll just say that, as a millennial, this is the first time I've ever heard the term "throuple" before. I guess "polyamorous" isn't spicy enough of a word?

Is it appropriate to ignore a story that is discussed online and in Washington circles? Doesn't this lead to legitimate claims of media bias?

Is there any hint that the material is manufactured? That would in itself be a major news story (prominent conservative news outlet posts faked attack on swing-district politician.)

Literally could not care less

Um, posting fake news stories is the bread and butter of conservative media. Have you ever watched a Fox News segment or read a Breitbart article?

Looks like she took representing a swing district a little too literally.

I always see stories like this as a reason not to get in to a relationship with the person (Hill).

But in terms of whether she should resign - you have to look at it if she was in another profession; would you expect her to resign as a banker or a firefighter over having an affair? I wouldn’t. 

Having said that the fact she’s had relationships with at least two subordinates is worthy of at least a cursory investigation to make sure nothing untoward happened.

For me the saddest thing is that things like this when seized upon are often used to justify/promote biphobia by implying bisexuality is synonymous with infidelity and polyamory.

Literally no one cares about this

In completely separate instances, she (a) started sleeping with someone who was already her subordinate; and (b) hired someone that she was already sleeping with.

For me the saddest thing is to see people who might otherwise be positive public representations of polyamory or nonmonogamy behave so abominably in their professional life.

I’m ok with her and her husband having a girlfriend. Her sleeping around with someone without her husband or girlfriend’s permission is another. She is also sh**tting where she eats. Maybe she can still do the job if she reconciles with everyone or she should reign.

Yikes, I don’t think she’s a great person, but not enough for me to want her to resign or that I would not vote for her, but some sort of sanction is in order.

Has a single reliable / credible journalistic source picked up this story yet? I'm not seeing any. And if not - why are we talking about this?

Why should it matter whether reliable/ credible journalistic sources are talking about this?

If the evidence was faked by Red State, that's a big story too.

If the evidence is accurate and gatekeepers aren't reporting it, why should their biases influence the rest of us?

Because it means they checked the story and found it lacks credibility?
After last year's debacle with Cisneros everyone should be more careful.

Do you really still expect an extension of the democratic machine to expose one of its own proxies when it doesn't really need to?
We're in an era of scorched-earth politics, the media isn't about to sabotage the democrats in a potentially vulnerable district if they don't have to. If Katie Hill was a republican, she would've already had to resign.

Yes, but that's not the main issue here (assuming this story is true, which I hope it isn't).

Well f***k.

Of all millennial congress members, it had to be one I knocked doors for, that I literally have a f***king campaign sticker for on the back of my phone.

This isn't 100% proven, of course, but BRTD is right, it looks bad.

Red State is the only one that has jumped on this (and conservative outlets) and still... no one cares. People need to stop.

Well, this is looking like a real nothingburger. No major outlet has picked it up and Hill is still a congresswoman and the vice chair of the freakin’ Oversight committee. 

Per Politico, there is no evidence that Hill had an affair except her husband’s unsupported claim that this was the case and she has alleged that her husband was abusive towards her.  DC police investigating whether photos were illegally obtained and/or were revenge porn.  At this point, while the whole threeouple thing is really weird (to say the least) and this certainly showed some poor judgment on Hill’s part, I don’t think there’s any reason for her to resign or even that she shouldn’t be re-elected at this point.  

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/katie-hill-denies-improper-relationship-054313 (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/katie-hill-denies-improper-relationship-054313)

Thank goodness.

She should sue RedState into bankruptcy for this.

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/katie-hill-denies-improper-relationship-054313

This hasn't really seemed to catch on much outside of right wing media, and even if it did, the fact that it's more than a year out, the district is sprinting democratic, and that she may not have even had an affair is more than enough to insulate her.

Safe D——>Safe D.

Well, I'm sure the next time a right-wing site posts something slanderous about a Democratic congressperson everyone is going to reserve judgment until a more credible source confirms the allegations.
Not.

Just goes to prove my point, the consequences of scandals do not apply to democrats.
They'll just spin a way to portray allegations as "fake" (with the help of their media handlers), dust off their shoes, and keep marching forward.

This almost reads like satire

Wtf I love Katie now

1. Picture should not have been published.
2. It’s not okay to have affairs with staffers.
3. The ethical issue that should be focused on is #2, even though affairs are immoral (it’s not our business).

If what Hill says is correct, this becomes not something she should apologize for but something she should file a police report and talk to a lawyer about. It also potentially secures her reelection. The right wing fake news was way too desperate here and overplayed her hand if she didn't actually do anything wrong.

Hill will not only survive this, but could set legal precedent as well in the realms of both revenge porn and journalism.

It's the Trump's era.

Having an affair is like going to the barber.

No one gives a ****.

There is some truth to this. What if this scandal had involved Hill's Republican predecessor, Steve Knight? Or any number of other Republican Congressmen? I doubt that the media would have ignored their scandals. And I'm quite certain that many of the posters on here, who are now defending Hill and bashing "right-wing" media outlets, would be decrying Republican "family values" and demanding the Congressman's resignation. Some would even call for him to be prosecuted in a court of law.

Well, the Democratic Party never claimed to be the party of family values.

Except there's no evidence Hill had an affair with a staffer save for the thus far unsupported claims of her husband in the midst of what is clearly - to put it kindly - an extremely ugly divorce.

Maybe the media didn't pick up the story because there was nothing to pick up? You have to have proper evidence to substantiate a story. Not everything is about "everyone is only out to get Republicans".

Doesn't make my points any less valid. If you're going to hold Republicans to a higher standard, then you need to hold your own party's members to that standard as well. No one should excuse sexual misbehavior from any politician, be it Trump or this congresswoman.

Yes it does.

Except Republicans defend Trump no matter what his personal foibles.

The second it came out that Al Franken had sexually harassed women, Democrats were lining up around the block to criticise him and he was forced to resign.

As I've said, I don't agree with how Republicans handle Trump. And as for Franken, yes he was forced out, but that was only because Democrats knew he would be replaced by another Democrat. If it were a Republican Governor responsible for filling his vacancy, I doubt they would have called for his resignation.

I wouldn't bother even responding to that poster. She's always trying to create some both sides narrative about everything and will argue on and on and on.

I don't think this was reported yet, but Hill confirmed that she had an affair with a campaign aide before getting elected but denies having a relationship with anyone on her congressional staff (her full statement is in the tweet thread below):

https://twitter.com/BresPolitico/status/1187149412109373440

But that's her and her husband's girlfriend. That's not the issue.

So RedState is now publishing private text messages between Hill and Heslep in which they imply she has a drinking problem... Not only is this clearly a hitjob by RedState and her ex, but this is a blatant violation of Hill’s privacy. They are opening the door to a sh**tload of legal problems.

Though I don't condone how RedState has handled this, I'm still appalled by the double standard which continues to be taken by many here over this matter.

Now this, this is an unexpected take.

Yeah, ok.

I seriously hope she sues the f*** out of her ex and RedState once this is all over.

So even Republicans are telling people to leave her alone?

He wants to bang her.

She admitted to the the throuple so she should definitely resign now. There’s some more pics out there. I’m not defending her but she should sue whoever is leaking these for revenge porn. I’m not going to post them and I hope no one else does.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7609835/Katie-Hill-seen-showing-Nazi-era-tattoo-smoking-BONG-NAKED.html

A few other photos leaked. One shows her smoking a bong before marijuana was legalized in California (file under "LOL who gives a sh**t), revelations that she and her ex-husband distributed her nude photos under sites called "wifeshare" and "WouldYouF[inks]MyWife" (file under "Probably not the public's but yikes") and...that she has a Nazi symbol tattoo (file under "HOLY SH!T)

Legally speaking, this is rape in both DC and her home state of California if I'm correct. Furthermore, she had photographs taken which show she is incompetent. She is unlikely to win reelection.

...The Nazi tattoo sucks the life out of the fact I want to say this disproves the "victimhood" claim, if she uploaded these herself. This woman is braindead. This scandal is too big, too ridiculous. Should I say Democrats are the real racists now?

Oh my....

If Steve King had one, you would be up in arms asking for his public stoning

Because Steve King is an open, right wing extremist.

I would prefer neither her or Steve King run for re-election.

I wouldn't call her a Nazi until we know when we get that tatoo or why. People are idiots when young. Maybe she was 18 and made a bet? Anyway this should be investigated to some degree  even if it's not illegal.

Why?

She hasn't done anything illegal as far as I am aware.

The Daily Mail seems to think she has an iron cross tattoo?? Which, uh, from the grainy photos depicted, it probably isn’t that.

Republicans gleefully posting revenge porn on twitter is a new political low i'd had hoped we wouldnt cross.

This is looking more and more and more like a Jeremy Corbyn-style "terrible person on her merits but also getting shamelessly libeled" situation.

Ik its Twitter but this shows politically why compromise is useless. The Republican hacks just say i disagree and all the Democrats say vote out Gaetz for no reason

She definitely seems like a terrible person if all of this is true, and I won't defend her, but Republicans really shouldn't be pearl clutching and claiming double standards here. If Trump had done this, we all know how Republicans would react. Not to mention two Republicans who were literally criminals won re-election last year, as did a neo-Nazi and a guy who body slammed a reporter.

You know what? F**k it. Hill might have done some sketchy stuff, but men have been getting away with orders-of-magnitude worse sh**t for centuries. If for once a woman is doing it, it's only fair to let her get away with it. I want to see her get reelected and see the impotent rage on the faces of the people who defended T***p and Kavanaugh.

Who is the “neo-Nazi?”

And who do you Republicans have to retake this seat? Steve Knight lost by a mile. Even if Hill doesn't run for re-election is doesn't open the door for some triumph Republican return.

Again, no problems detected. Sue those who are leaking these photos. The iron cross claim seems like an incredible stretch.

For smoking a bong and drinking? Damn. Keep your morals to yourself.

You seem obsessed on defending this woman. Though I definitely agree with Xing about the despicable Republicans whom he mentions (Hunter, Collins, King, and Gianforte), and though I certainly recognize how Republicans defend Trump (many of them worship at his altar, burning incense and offering gifts on a daily basis...), I also don't think that this all should excuse Hill either. What she has been accused of, based off what we have now, is much worse than what Al Franken did.

I suspect this woman will be allowed to skate by, will win re-election, and will linger in the halls of Congress for years to come. Just another disgraceful presence in such a flawed body. This thread is also very revealing, in terms of exposing partisanship. Trump's comment that his voters would not abandon him even if he shot someone can in many ways be applied to the Democratic base as well. Some are of the mentality that even if the worst offense is exposed, there should be no remedy, if it is not practically convenient.

I'm defending her because the right is attacking her by leaking private photos of her. She literally did nothing wrong.

9th woman accuses former Sen. Al Franken of sexual harassment as he steps back into the public eye
 (https://www.businessinsider.com/ninth-woman-accuses-former-sen-al-franken-of-sexual-harassment-2019-9)

TLDR all of this, but this was consensual among all parties who actually participated, or no?

True, but earlier, I asked you what your response would be if a left-leaning or mainstream outlet had done so. You didn't respond, so I assume, therefore, that there would have been less of an issue. And I don't condone the photo-leaking either, but they are not the only problem. The other allegations concerning Hill's relationships, and possible ethics violations (and now, the Ethics Committee probes), are far more concerning. If it was just the photos alone, I wouldn't be as bothered.

These two posts basically sum up my thoughts on this whole mess at this point.  

Well, there's also the affair that she admitted to.

She admitted to the throupl, which was consensual and violated no laws. The main problem is that she's being accused of having an affair with a congressional staffer, which remains unproven and which she has denied. Keep up.

Are you enjoying being deliberately obtuse?

It is blatantly and flagrantly unethical to engage in a clandestine relationship with someone who you directly supervise. Workplace ethics 101. The hacks here would have no problem acknowledging this if it was a Republican and/or male doing it.

CA-25 voted for Newsom by 2 points in 2018. It's hardly a safe seat.

Yup. Republicans are being extremely hypocritical about this, but so are D hacks on here. If you have an affair with a subordinate, you should resign: period.

Oh, I see what is unethical about this now - I was thinking of sexual harassment. In that case, should Bill Clinton have resigned over Monica Lewinsky? I always thought no (although he should perhaps have over other stuff).

As long as Trump is in the White House, it is.

Jerry Brown lost it by 14% to a flop of a candidate. +14 to -2 doesn't suggest much opportunity for Republicans who also lost an Assembly seat in the area.

LOL I could literally ask the same of you as those allegations remain UNPROVEN. If you went through my post history you would know I supported Al Franken resigning. Cut the partisan crap, because you look ridiculous.

I guess Orange County in 2018 was just a fluke, considering they voted for Newsom by .14%

Also, my Assembly district voted for Newsom by 3.5 points. I bet my Assemblymember, who won by 9 points, is shaking in her shoes

It might be competitive post-Trump (to be seen), but for now it is safe d. It ousted its republican by 10 points in 2018.

Also, f**k this scandal for making me encounter the term "throuple" in the wild. Was "ménage à trois" not trendy enough?

It was just reported that Rep. Hill’s attorneys have sent a cease and desist to the Daily Mail and are demanding they remove the nude pictures as they violate revenge porn laws.

He should have resigned for committing perjury, not for the affair itself.

The irony is the Republicans can't attack her over the nazi tattoo because then Trump will never be reelected. Half their support would disappear.

And so what?

Having an affair is not against the laws.

________________________________

Trump can cheat on Melania evey single day and that is perfectly within his rights. (Assuming that the other woman isn't a foreign spy trying to influence policy and extract information.)

It would be an interesting tabloid story, but that's about it.

Are we really saying here that Person A leaking nude photos of Person B is now somehow an awful thing on Person B's part and/or somehow their fault and that they should have to resign over it?


Republicans are literally just throwing around revenge pornography in an attempt to intimidate a member of Congress - who has done literally nothing wrong here - into resigning.

"If it's not illegal, it's not inappropriate to the dignity of a public servant" is a repellent argument. I say this as someone who (as of now) doesn't think Hill should resign.

If we're making people resign over affairs a good 25% of Congress at minimum should be gone.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/katie-hill-cease-and-desist-nude-photos-daily-mail_n_5db21ac7e4b0bc7f96fe62bf?ci

Nothing about red state. My guess? Its much easier to shut down news papers for libel or other sh**t in the UK than in the US. Not sure where the court case would be

Indeed it is, much, much easier.

This is literally the first time I've seen this phrase used in reference to someone other than Taylor Swift in years.

If Katie Hill was Kevin Hill, he would have been shown the door by now.  She should resign.

So it looks like my initial assessment of this was a bit off.

Based on learning that (a) there is no actual evidence of an affair with her finance director and (b) the other girl involved here was a campaign staffer, not a congressional staffer, I don’t really think Hill has much to apologize for.

I suppose hiring someone you’re secretly sleeping with onto your campaign staff isn’t ideal, but it’s quite a bit different that hiring them onto the government payroll.

I couldn’t care less if she had a consensual nonmonogamous relationship or smoked marijuana at some point in the past.  And the idea that she has a -Nazi tattoo- is laughably implausible.

Have you been spying on me?

What did Taylor Swift play the victim about recently? Last time I heard of her it was when she endorsed Democrat loser Phil Bredesen, which...makes me wonder if she's secret Atlas user, because that's what Atlas does on the reg.

Hmm....

Is Brett Kavanaugh a rapist with accusers who often can't even make their own claims under oath, when there's actually pictures of Katie Hill naked with staffers?

I was referring to Republican representatives in Congress (like members of the Freedom Caucus), not to you. Political partisans have a natural pull to the President of their own party. But many Congressional Republicans have been way overboard with how they've acted.

What an awful post.

This is really gross, and it's honestly sad that you don't see yourself as a victim when your own pictures were leaked.

Glad to see you don't believe abuse victims. You should feel really good about yourself!

You know he's lying, right? Or at least twisting things to cast his sad self in a better light.
"This happened to me too, and I didn't whinge like a leftist" is a common trope in the right-wing commentariat.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7609313/Katie-Hill-missed-flights-drinking-staffers-worry-partying-affecting-work.html

Another claim by dailymail.

She’s going to be President one day at this rate.

Apparently the conservatives are furious not only because she smoked weed, but because she smoked weed on 9/11. She should be President.

She denies having an affair with her legislative director (which, if proven true, would be a serious ethics violation). She admitted to her relationship with an aide, but that apparently predates her hire. A little more murky than the former case.

I haven't seen the photos in question, but out of curiosity, was the tattoo this symbol by any chance: https://www.google.com/search?q=independent+logo&rlz=1C1EJFC_enUS839US839&oq=independent+logo&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2056j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8. If so, it's a dumb white girl tattoo, not a neo-Nazi one, especially since I'm approximately the same age as her and know that she would have been in high school when Avril Lavigne, Quicksilver, Tony Hawk, and the skater boi/girl aesthetic were at the height of their popularity, and even non-skater kids might have gotten such a tattoo because they thought it looked cool or whatever.

Bolded and colored the important bit that you conveniently ignored.

As previously stated, she denies having an affair with her legislative director; the relationship with her aide predates Hill hiring her.

You'd have to ask a Taylor Swift hater.

Didn’t Bam Marjara sign to that label too?

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/27/rep-katie-hill-to-resign-amid-allegations-of-inappropriate-relationships-with-staffers-000301

Expected. Democrats should still be favored for the seat, though.

RIP hottest Congresswoman.

Tossup. She shouldn't be resigning, though; these photos are just revenge porn.

Who had Duncan Hunter outlasting Katie Hill?

Sad to see. Hopefully her replacement is as progressive.

Hopefully her district votes out her party in the special election.

This seat is rapidly trending blue. It won't be a competitive special election.

When will people learn to not get involved with their bosses or subordinates?  (Human nature being what it is, probably never.)  Even relationships with coworkers are usually a problem.  I've seen many office romances over the years, and most of them had unhappy and disruptive endings; although tbf, two of them did result in happy marriages.  And I've seen at least two people fired for having an affair with a subordinate.

(Insert sounds of hysterical laughter at a member of the party of Roy Moore, David Vitter, Blake Farenthold, Mark Foley, etc. casting stones about the other party's decadence and degeneracy.)

Wow, didn’t even last a full year. How many House members have had shorter terms than this?

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.

More Dems should be like Ralph Northam, grow a freaking backbone.

She posted them herself.

Northam had scandal after scandal down the line of succession though.

Why is this person still allowed to post that kind of garbage every day?

It's utterly embarrassing that Justin Fairfax is still the Lieutenant Governor of Virginia. He was accused by not one, but two women, of rape and/or sexual assault, and he is defiant as always, refusing to resign his position. Of course, we have Trump. I would ask this of Atlas Democrats, however: If you wish to hold Republican politicians to a high standard (and I'm not attacking you for that), why don't you hold your own politicians to the same? I would be all for Trump being turned out of office, if Justin Fairfax and others like him were.

You should be grateful I invited him to this board in the first place, along with getting Red Eagle to invite his thousands of fans, over two dozen of which have already joined.

Btw is this the 1st women to resign from congress in Scandal? Glass ceilings broken everyday.

You all want to talk about perverts while someone who has admitted to rape in the White House? Give me a damn break. The hypocrisy is stunning.

Everyone seems to think Caforio will be the Dem nominee but what about that volcanologist chick?

This seat is still going blue (atlas red), lol.

They don't have any good recruits in the district.

It was a great victory. One of the dems' rising stars has been neutralized by her own crazy actions.

Sad to see. A sexual relationship with a subordinate can be unfair to other employees, but it is not really that bad unless there is some abuse of power involved (e.g. Coercion). It is not inherently abuse. It should be up to the subordinate to determine whether they felt coerced.

The revenge porn aspect is a more egregious offense, IMO. The if the entire company of Gawker can go down for publishing that racist Hulk Hogan's pics, whichever website did this can be shut down to.

This is what passes for modern conservatism today.  A bunch of internet trolls who think that revenge porn and spousal abuse are a laughing matter.

Angela Underwood-Jacobs looks solid. She's a city councilwoman from Lancaster and the GOP really needs a black person in the house with Hurd leaving.

Your Governor is supposedly in the closet. Maybe it's time for someone to find some information about her personal life and release it. She could have done some inappropriate things with her power.

It actually doesn't include that much of the San Fernando Valley, but considering that everyone in Mississippi thinks every city in California is part of Hollywood I'll give you a pass.

If she ever has to resign (unlikely) she's only going to be replaced with a better republican (Ainsworth).

Seriously?! This is the level we're willing to sink to for the sake of tit-for-tat?! At least Hill was comfortable with people knowing she was bisexual, even if the revenge porn itself was still inexcusable.

I never said that poor behavior by some Republicans excused Hill's behavior; I don't condone it and believe resignation was the proper course of action.  I was simply calling out Nuke's hypocrisy for calling the Democrats decadent and degenerate even though it is clear that they have far from a corner on that market.

ETA: To clarify, what I don't condone is Hill having an affair with someone over whom she was in a position of authority.  I don't care about the other aspects of her relationships.

So much for that meme that "Scandals don't affect Democrats because LIBERAL MEDIA".     I saw a lot of Republicans posting stuff like that about this.

Nah. Might run but lagged *way* behind the other two in 2018. Wouldn’t rule out the possibility of someone none of us have heard of jumping in and running away with party backing — a lot of people will be hesitant to get behind Caforio after he lost twice in two consecutive cycles

As for Republicans: Mike Garcia is probably as solid of a recruit as they could expect — Hispanic former fighter pilot, could easily become a John James-esque cause celebre. Underwood-Jacobs isn’t doing so hot, to put it mildly. Everyone who wants Steve Knight to run should remember all the reasons he lost by more than any of the other CA incumbents

Not surprised, Democrats are held to a higher standard.

Which isn't a bad thing. We just need to hold Republicans to the same high standard. We shouldn't be trying to keep scummy politicians in office just because the Republicans do it.

Nice to see that the Republicans in this thread are setting society to a higher standard. I encourage them to go even further and never think about naked people and/or performing sexual actions ever again.

I'm sure there are other examples, but the one that springs to mind is Shelley Sekula Gibbs, who served for seven weeks.

https://history.house.gov/People/Detail/22589

May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

It literally was revenge porn that was posted about her.  She didn't do anything malicious or harmful (let alone illegal)

Destroyed where?

Tough luck, Katie. If you had a (R) next to your name, you'd immediately be considered a martyr and a rallying cry for Trump and the Republicans, who would deem the whole thing a witch hunt and an attempt by Democrats to steal a House seat. Democrats should hold this seat (Likely D at worst), but as others have said, Republicans clearly aren't the ones held to a higher standard.

Where?  In NC-9 and PA-12 the Democrats outperformed Trump's numbers.   In NC-3 the Republicans more or less just held their ground (in a very rural, safe R seat).

There literally hasn't been any special elections in truly competitive districts/states in 2019.

IIRC Loretta sanchez in the region only got like 38% of the vote against 5 Republicand and still lost an Orange county supervisor seat. The other major California special sd 1 saw ds only get 30% of the vote in a trump +15 district. California specials so far have been bad for Democrats

Christ, online leftists really exist in a delusional little bubble.

Does anyone think the former congressman Steve Knight will run for his seat back?

Good that she resigned, her conduct was clearly inappropriate in regards to the subordinate. While I would have preferred that they wait out for a full and comprehensive report from the House Ethics Committee, this is probably what would've occurred regardless.


Politically, this seat is a strong Lean D in the special. And I consider that extremely generous to Republicans, given Hill won by 9ish.

Jess Phoenix OUT:

https://twitter.com/AlexClearfield/status/1188610133707894785

Assemblywoman Christy Smith (D) is considering a run here:

https://twitter.com/cmarinucci/status/1188599178559029250

I'm not even going to address the cherry picking and spin in the above, except to note that you're forgetting the Wisconsin state Supreme Court election, in which 1.2 million votes were cast; it was a statewide election in what is a likely tipping point state next year.

Listing all special House elections in 2019 is pretty much the opposite of "cherry picking."

And Hagedorn won by 6k votes or 0.5%,  Trump won it by 0.77%.   

Losing a state supreme court race by decimal points is hardly getting destroyed. But keep on trolling.

I think Hill should have served out her term, not because "but Trump!" or that kind of whataboutism (Democrats should hold themselves to a high standard) but I don't believe that resignation was warranted here and this rewards a revenge porn campaign.

She should've served out her goddamned term and run for reelection in 2020. The voters can then decide if they want her back.

In the meanwhile, there is no evidence that Hill dated somebody from her congressional staff but everybody takes it as a given. I wonder why.

This is the real story here. If this story had been broken via the aide going to a mainstream news outlet about Hill's treatment of her, I would have leaned towards supporting Hill's ouster; however, as it stands, Hill resigning legitimizes revenge porn as a means of "reporting" on political scandals, and anybody who thinks it'll affect male and female politicians equally is delusional.

Where are all these Republicans on the impeachment thread?

Anyways, good riddance. Its unethical to have a relationship with your subordinates. And Calthrina, Conyers and Franken were both pushed out of the party after their allegations surfaced. Democrats do hold their own to a higher standard than Republicans.

She’s definitely a good fit here. Only wild card left is Bryan Caforio, but he could easily run for the Assembly seat she would be vacating.

The board of supervisors thing isn't surprising,  it's a non-partisan office for one thing, but more importantly Orange County still votes pretty Republican downballot.   There's only 1 Democrat on the 5 member board, and all the county-wide elected officials are still Republican too.

SD-1 is exactly the kind of district to trend to Republicans so that's not surprising either.

You are really stretching here.

1. This post was really hard to read

2. If there's one thing Southern California Democrats are terrible at, its voting in off-year elections (Turnout was 21% in March 2019 for the 3rd district vs 55% 5 months prior for the 4th district). I wouldn't be surprised if, had the 3rd district been on the November ballot, she'd have gotten north of 40%

Does anyone know the date in which her resignation goes into effect?

Get Duncan Hunter to resign next.

this is despicable

To be clear I think that Republicans and men should be held to the same standard.

All the GOP criminals and disgraces to congress and government, King/Hunter and the rest of the "best people" need to resign and prosecuted according to the nature of their crimes, of those who have committed them.

Wikipedia is already listing her as a former member of Congress.

Caforio would be the logical successor, but I understand that running a man here would be poor optics after the scandal.

FTFY

What evidence is there that these pics were private and then posted by her husband? IIRC, they were both posting these pics online (including on reddit) to solicit swinger hookups.

Regardless, the pics aren't even the scandal, just evidence toward the scandal of sleeping with subordinates. That she resigned and explicitly hinted toward further revelations in her statement implies truth to these and other unethical claims.

CA SOS Alex Padilla is considering jumping in:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1188636948627415040

That would be an idiotic tier move

Would a major state govt sacramento dem be a good fit here?

Californians hate their state govt. especially in recent months with the energy and gas issues.

Wouldn't be unprecedented. Garamendi went from Lt. Gov to Congress.

This is so dumb I wish she had just stayed in office

Wait, why did she resign? The D hacks in this thread told me she did nothing wrong. It was just a rigged witch hunt!

Tbf she might have just wanted to end the embarrassment for herself.
What's sh**tty is that lot a single reporter could reach out to the staffer or the husband

The silver lining to this is that Democrats can point to this (along with Conyers, Franken, etc.) as an example of their people having higher moral/ethical standards in the face of scandal, unlike their Republican counterparts.

You are correct when you say that Conyers and Franken were forced out, but what about Justin Fairfax? To say nothing of the fact that Franken's replacement was in large part guided by partisan considerations. Would he have been forced out if a Republican Governor were able to choose his replacement? That is a question that I've never been able to grapple with adequately.

Hypotheticals are irrelevant. You might as well be asking what if squares were circles, what would be different? Everything, of course.

Fairfax's continuance in office is a disgrace. At least Democrats actually take a stand on sexual assault. Come back to me when Republicans do that same.

Bill Clinton? If Democrats have always been consistent on this issue, they wouldn't have been so supportive of him back during the 1990s. Nor would they continue to excuse or ignore his behavior.

But at any rate, I'm not interested in arguing over this. I try to keep arguments to a minimum here after what happened during my first tenure here.

He probably literally will as in he's almost certainly going to be the next member of Congress to resign barring another scandal out of nowhere or him somehow being acquited.

Absolutely ****ing not.

Christy Smith, from what I've seen, seems to be a solid progressive who would represent in a similar (if not more progressive) way to Hill. She's especially strong wrt education.

Unfortunately, the DC establishment (Peace Be Unto Them), in their Enlightened Wisdom, will crown Padilla king if he runs, because resumes mean more than ideology or competence.

From what I know the DCCC seem to want Smith too.

Smith ran two competitive races for the Assembly seat that holds much of CA-25 and won the second time, plus she as on the Newhall School Board before that and was raised in Santa Clarita. That's the sort of candidate the DCCC is going to back.

Wow, blue avs cheering on the destruction of a woman at the hands of an abusive ex. And calling US the degenerates at the same time.

She defeated a Republican so automatically she's a villain who must be destroyed at any cost. Politics has gotten to the point where some want politicians they don't like destroyed personally.

You. Nuke. The sad person who made the porn comment.

I would certainly agree that what Trump and Moore have been accused of is horrendous, and far beyond what Hill has done. But it wasn't just a relationship with a staffer. Her behavior was in clear violation of the House's ethic rules, and having relationships with subordinates in the workplace, in such a manner, is an absolute "no-no". At any rate, she will be gone, and hopefully, will be succeeded by someone of much greater moral character.

She should have dug her heels in and stayed. Nobody cared.

I was reading somewhere about a typical Trump supporter who said they would support him no matter what he did - this man was rather honest - and it all came down to "because he takes no sh**t." People want someone who will fight. Too many people in our society crumble and cave, issue public apologies to no one in particular that are not accepted by their detractors, fold to critics upholding a hypocritical sense of morality. He is popular because, in his supporters' minds, he has the right enemies, he defies the right people, he is attacked in the "right" ways, and he, unlike they, gets away with it. This, I am convinced, is a great deal - perhaps the greater part - of Trump's appeal.

The resignation is really sad and unnecessary, I think. Others got away with way worse behavior. This one wasn't even that much of a big deal.

From the GOP, there is clearly a double standard. They're cheering a prez who bragged about assaulting women, but go crazy here. I wonder why? If she was a man and GOPer, they'd cheer him, too.

But that's because Trump is the champion of bad people who relish their own evil. While that has turned out to be a disturbingly large part of the electorate it's probably not a majority.

Well yeah as we've seen trying to replicate Trump's approach to scandals doesn't work with Democratic voters. These voters, or at least a good part of them, seem to hold politicians to a higher standard than Republicans do to their politicians. While some complain that there is an unfair difference in standards, Democrats should set a positive example and demand high standards, even if this is never replicated by Republicans it still improves the quality of office holders-Donald Trump wouldn't be a better person and President if Al Franken were still in office.

Good riddance!

IIRC, most Atlas (and national) Democrats were pretty quick to call for Fairfax’s resignation and were pretty pissed that he wasn’t impeached.  And Al Franken, John Conyers, Reuben Kihuen, Nate Boulton, Steve Loebsack, etc were all driven from office (and rightly so).  The only Democrat of note I can think of who has hung on after a #metoo scandal since the movement began is Fairfax.  The Republicans have defended and tried to rationalize supporting folks like Trump, Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, Jim Jordan, Steve Watkins, James Comer, etc.  Even Katie Hill just resigned while Scott DeJarlais remains in Congress without much comment from Republicans despite having repeatedly slept with patients, some of whom he pressures to get abortions.

I’m sorry, but there is simply nothing even remotely resembling equivalency about how the two parties have treated #metoo scandals.  The Democrats - while not perfect by any means - have generally wasted no time siding with the victims rather than the predators (Fairfax being a glaring and particularly egregious exception, but an exception all the same) who have sexually assaulted or harassed them whereas the Republicans have generally shown themselves to be perfectly willing to turn their backs on the victims if they think defending a sex predator will help their party cling to power.  This isn’t just my opinion, it’s a fact that has been demonstrated time and time again.

Oh please,  what Hill did was NOTHING compared to what Trump or Moore did, not even remotely comparable.  Nothing about her behavior violated any rules either, you're just making stuff up here.  

Just admit it,  Democrats are indeed held to a higher standard while Republicans are allowed to just skate by while doing disgusting things.  

We have a financial record of Duncan Hunter having an affair and here he is still running for office while Hill has to resign.  It's a two tiered system we have.

Mark Sanford goes and has a kid with a women in Argentina but he continues to serve in Congress until voted out in a primary for criticising Trump.  But a picture of Hill naked with a bong is too much.

If a Democratic snoop did this to a Republican pol, they would be doxxed by now.

To add to this long, long list I will point out that if you've EVER defended Donald Trump for grabbing women by the p[inks]y, you have ZERO standing to criticize Hill for anything she's done. My view on the matter is that while she's a victim of revenge porn and deserves sympathy, she displayed poor judgement by engaging in an affair with a subordinate, and therefore needs to resign.

This thread is a good reminder of why I left here in the first place. Hence, I will say nothing more about this matter.

According to Hill, relationship ended well before the campaign started.

And in any case, this isn’t the reason for the resignation. She was forced to resign because of revenge porn, which is an absolutely horrifying and revolting precedent.

Very sad to see her resign after having her name dragged through the mud, her personal life exposed, and no due process through a completed ethics committee investigation. All while the occupant of the White House has admitted to committing sexual assault, high crimes AND misdemeanors, incites white nationalist violence, and ignores the rule of law for his own personal game. Wonder what the difference between those two people is.


Why don't you just leave again then? Half of the posts I read from you are "THIS IS WHY I LEFT IN THE FIRST PLACE".

So when is Duncan Hunter resigning for using campaign funds on extramarital affairs with lobbyists and congressional staff?

Soon, hopefully.

When he's convicted no doubt, do probably pretty soon.

Knight considering to run again:


Source: https://scvnews.com/2019/10/27/knight-more-than-considering-run-for-hills-seat/

The GOP needs to be able to do better than running Knight again to have a shot at winning the seat.

Likely D... closer to safe if she’s the nominee.

If Jess Phoenix had ran and won, Hill's replacement would be even hotter.

Christy Smith though is actually kind of good looking, though much older:

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I'm glad you're focusing on what's really important.

Not that attractiveness or lack there of says anything about qualifications for public office. In the end, credentials, accomplishments and personality should matter. And only these.

Bold of you to turn this thread into a discussion about the "hotness" of prospective candidates in a special election to replace a representative who resigned in part due to revenge porn.

is it really an Atlas thread without BRTD making tone deaf sexist comments?

This entire thread is irrefutable proof that sexism thrives in American politics.

I just wanted to say, that as political scandals go, this is the first time where I felt 100% sympathetic to the politician.

I mean, the ethical concern with the relationship with the campaign staffer is real, but a fine or reprimand would have been sufficient. Her career was destroyed by an abusive ex.

He should go to prison, and she should run again in a couple years.

They both suck. He sucks for leaking the pictures obviously, she sucks for leading on a pretty vulnerable young staffer and dumping her when the relationship became inconvenient and also having unauthorized affairs.

I think the resignation is an overreaction. Even if you find the story questionable (I don't care about private stuff of politicians as long as they don't actually abuse or beat someone), it shouldn't be reason to give up a seat. Too bad!

I believe she was forced out by Democratic leadership out of fear the seat could flip back to the GOP if she ran again.

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Democratic Assemblywoman Christy Smith is running. She’s the only Democrat to represent part of this seat in the legislature and probably starts as the favorite

What are the chances Kenny heslep faces charges

Newsom definitely schedules for 3/3. No doubt about it

Smith should resign ASAP so the AD38 special can also be held on that day.

I'm not leaving again. And you are grossly distorting the content of my posts. I've moved on from the "dark times", and I'm not going to replay them.

IMO she was forced out by DCCC leadership because they became worried she’d lose if she ran again. She probably would have still won anyway but by a rather narrow margin. She’s might’ve dragged Cisneros and Rouda down, though. That’s probably why she had to go.

George Papadapolous to run for the seat

https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1188594051097907200

Stay classy, George.

Yeah, I'm sure if Republicans run a Trump lackey the district will snap back into being Titanium R.

Who cares what a corrupt Drumpf hack and indicted crock has to say?

Papadopoulos has a campaign site. He's running. He's the type of candidate that will get just enough of the GOP vote to win a second slot in the runoff, but then is DOA because he can't unite the types of voters the GOP would need in this seat. Especially if Newsom can get this to coencide with the Dem primary.

So in summary, it's further proof the California GOP are in the depths of a death spiral.

The California GOP isn't in a death spiral -- it's basically dead.

If someone reaches 50% there will be no runoff.

You think that Smith will be the only notable Democrat to run?

No their's still some blood left in it's veins. If it was dead, OC and the Imperial valley Clinton seats would be all blue rather than slowly flipping. There's still some local dudes like Faulconer they can point to. But it's very likely by 2021 we will be having a funeral service, with the new district lines confirming the facts we learned this decade. The only people left to turn out the  lights will be the South Valley and rural hinterland republicans - aka the crazies.

Yeah the state should be evacuated by the remaining Republicans, it's clear it's a lost cause at this point and has been entirely subsumed as a fiefdom of the Democratic Party.

Yes. Phoenix said no. Caforio failed twice, plus he no longer lives in the district. There are no other Democratic state legislators in the district other than Henry Stern, and he lives too far away. The LA County Commission seat is also still R-held, because it hasn’t been up since 2016. And at the end of the day, I don’t think Padilla will get in.

Interesting
https://twitter.com/alexthomasdc/status/1189368513330327552

Not surprising. It was only a matter of time before one of those NRCC fools got into legal trouble given all the questionable content they post on social media.

Pure Brain Genius from Alabama.

Come to think of it, I think that used to describe another state...

The NRCC allied themselves with an abusive husband to blackmail his ex-wife, a sitting congresswoman, using revenge porn.
Every time I think Republicans have hit rock bottom they always find a way to surprise me.

This was tweeted BEFORE the Hill story broke...

https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1184992848489238529?s=20

So let me get this straight. The NRCC basically conspired to commit a sex crime?

Katie Hill should sue the NRCC into bankruptcy.

The police should be involved at this point.

Should honestly rescind her resignation.

No, she really, really shouldn’t.

She really, really should. She shouldn’t give into the right’s smear campaign.

When the media reports on a republican's scandal, it's "good journalism."
When the media reports on a democrat's scandal, it's a "smear campaign," and they should be sued.

The only scandal here is that NRCC aided and abetted Hill's husband in committing a crime.

And of course this will be papered over by the media that wants you to think that it is liberal.

We can all agree revenge porn is evil, disgusting, and abhorrent, but that wasn't the scandal here. The problem is Hill having a relationship with her employee, which is not okay.

Again, there is no evidence that Hill had a relationship with a congressional staffer.
The only one saying that is her husband and I think we can agree that his credibility is suspect, to say the least.

Alex Padilla OUT:

https://twitter.com/nathanlgonzales/status/1189585877879721987

This news pretty much ensures Christy Smith's frontrunner status on the Democratic side.

Reporting on a scandal isn’t a crime. Distributing naked photos of someone against their will is a crime. It’s pretty simple.

Context matters.   Everything points to this not being a true "scandal" against Hill,  rather just blatant sexism and revenge porn put out by an ex.

I really don't see how Hill did anything wrong.

If I were her, I'd have shut my mouth, not quit, and let the police investigate.

We wouldn't have a Congress without elected Reps sleeping around, I suppose.  Especially with staffers and campaign hangers-on.  Let the police investigate the revenge porn, let Katie Hill rescind her resignation (if that's possible), and let the voters have the last word.  Let the Ethics Committee properly investigate and discipline her for any ethical violations she may have committed.

But let's not forget to recognize that Katie Hill is a stupid idiot with an absurd lack of judgement and a shortage of self-control.  Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, but I somehow think that an elected officials ought to have a bit more personal restraint than Hill has displayed.  The revenge porn needs to be punished, but Hill was stupid enough to voluntarily put herself in the position she put herself in.

Your usual reminder that the person who wrote this is a Trump supporter.

I mean, I agree with everything in the quoted paragraph and I’m not a Trump supporter :P

So what's wrong with the quoted paragraph?  What part of that paragraph is in question?

Steve Knight is officially in for the special election:

https://twitter.com/allymutnick/status/1193244354040741888

https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1194722882489683969

Nope. Nooooope. Big Nope. NOOOOOPPPPE. No. NO. Nope. NOPE

No. Oh god. No. Please no. Oh god. No No No.

Pretty sure its a joke, guys.

Edit: ....I swear to god if this isnt a joke....

I'm guessing it's a joke. If it isn't, that's even more hilarious.

Ilhan Omar endorsement imminent.

As a regular viewer of TYT, I'm really hoping this is fake, which I think it is. I have always maintained that I don't think Cenk Uygur will ever run for anything.

Thanks, I hate it.

https://twitter.com/ChristyforCA25/status/1194751228250488832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etf...

She wasted no time with this one.

Excuse me?

Carpetbagging is always a better attack than "Too extreme," and I expect it to be used to the fullest on Pada and Cenk if he runs. Carpetbagging attacks allowed Knight to keep the  seat back in 2016. But this asshole should not even b this close to govt. 

oh god GO AWAY

I think he'd still win against a republican in the runoff, California suburbanites are just that deranged.

fdck u cenk

Ugh, just what this race didn’t need. Another idiot.


Thanks for the inspiration

California 25 years ago was more solidly GOP than Alabama lol

I hope they are that partisan but I don't share your optimism for Democrats in that unlikely scenario. However I do think this race is Likely D, there is some potential for a weird result as it's a special election but this district is pretty tough for Republicans to win now.

Oh cheese and rice...CENK UYGUR?!  The Armenian Genocide denier?!

#DefeatTheJusticeDemocrats

Is there a residency requirement for this district? Public records indicate that Uygur’s home is in the 37th district instead of the 25th.

I'd consider voting for a relatively sane Republican over Cenk Uygur. Fortunately for the Democratic House majority, the Republicans here like Cernovich and Papadopoulos are also freaks.

? In 1992, Clinton easily won CA and lost AL

I was talking about Congressional and State level

And Cenk Uygur 25 years ago was a Republican, so he'd still have the upper hand even then!

I'd thought this was a joke. Oh well. Cenk has my full and total endorsement.

And in 1996 Loretta Sanchez defeated Bob Dornan in Orange County.

Yeah, unless you have very high name i.d, carpetbagging wont get you very far. Cenk wont win unless his primary opponents drop out.

Edit: Although even i'd support a moderate Republican over him.

I will endorse any Republican, even if s/he is Trumpy, over ANY Justice Democrat.

Has the pedophile conceded yet?

In any case, Uyger can colossally  off.

https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1195141951919542272

Oh no, its real. He's not even a resident, lives 2 hours away. But this is the darkest timeline so it's going to be Cenk vs Pada isn't it.

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Its real Ana is just interviewing him right now about it

This is going to be fun to watch!

That's not even a good picture.

We are truly in bizarro world.

Hahahaa oh man. Stranger than fiction.

GO OFF QUEEN

if cenk somehow pulled it off and made it to the runoff i might support the republican in the special and hope to see him lose, and then throw out the republican in the general later that year.

Anyways, I got your back Smith! Go kick his @$$!

No. No. God no. Oh god please no. No No no.

This really is the cursed timeline.

Uygur's endorsed candidate for senate got 2% last year.
Here is hoping that he does as well.

Unironically based. Cenk for Congress = GOP gang

Oh please not Cenk. This dude needs to go down in flames.

I mean, that's 2% more than I want him to get :P

https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1195201238846959617
https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks/status/1195157951390072833
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1195211992585269249
Full interview here:


The interview begins at 2:25:48

Man, Yang keeps proving that horseshoe theory is actually applicable at times. 

Fck that...

Grifters gonna grift.

I'd wager almost none of the donations are coming from within the district.

Jesus. Only in California

Knight v Cenk when haha

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1195389130026430464
https://twitter.com/JoeSestak/status/1195393297235267585
https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1195451006047289344
https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1195502712978198528
The special election will take place on March 3, 2020. runoff will take place on May 12 if no one gets a majority.

Source: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/470693-california-governor-sets-special-election-to-replace-katie-hill

Wtf is wrong with people

What happened to Peter Daou? He was a lightning rod for Berniecrats due to his unwavering support for Clinton and other establishment Democrats up until early this year, and suddenly he has become a rose twitter hero who doesn't miss a chance to trash his former allies.

We are witnessing a full-blown attempt by misogynistic creeps from the right and left (well, """left""") to rob women of a seat they won fair and square in 2018. Luckily, I'm confident that Christy Smith will trounce the degenerates.

Grift is a hell of a drug

Lol I think this is gonna be a Cenk vs Smith runoff theirs too many credible republican candidates running

Does Cenk know how to smile or is his sooper-serious Tucker Carlson-lite camera stare all he has?

There is no such thing as a "women's seat".

Cenk needs to be defeated because he's a scuzzy grifter, not for any bean-counting reasons.

Hill gets triggered by Khanna's endorsement of Uygur

https://twitter.com/KatieHill4CA/status/1195371054039912449

She happily let her cuck husband take pictures of her and post them in r/wifesharing, she also conviently blames her husband for abuse, and divorces him around the time he found out she was cheating.

But sure "sexism" is the problem here.

Khanna is such a fraud. He unseated Honda running to his right and now he cozies up with the alt-left crowd.

It's official: Steve Knight is running again in CA-25:
https://twitter.com/CATargetBot/status/1196576402708918272?s=20

endorsed

From what I've heard from people in the community, the Khanna/Honda race in 2016 was less about ideology and more about corruption and ethics. I thought he'd turn rightward (and thought he was running to the right like you did before hearing from friends who had boots on the ground in Khanna's district), but he's proven himself to be progressive enough. I'm glad to be wrong here.


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Daou isn't running for office, AFAIK.
And his turnaround is just bizarre. Today he was attacking Pelosi and House Democrats because they hold impeachment hearings instead of impeaching Trump right now because "we have seen enough and already know Trump is guilty".

Peter Daou has always been fairly far-left and has a history of fighting for progressive causes. He lost faith in the establishment due to the constant triangulation seen in the past 25 years. The guy genuinely believes in the far-left causes - he just happens to be very loyal to the Clintons (notice how his criticisms of the Clintons/other people he's worked with have been much less fervent than his attacks on Pelosi).

Daou previously explored a primary run against Nadler, actually, but is now apparently an advisor to another challenger's campaign.

Steve Knight is not a good candidate.   He never was popular in his district and only won originally in 2014 a quirky top two race that ended up being RvR

I honestly think even Cenk Uygur would beat him in a top two runoff.

So you admit that all the attacks against him by Berniecrats as a corporate sellout and a squishy moderate were a bunch of bull.
Nice.

I'm not familiar enough with his tweets in the 2016 era to decide if the attacks were in defense or unprovoked. I originally thought his switch wasn't genuine because of the whole Verrit thing with one article that said Bernie helped elect Trump, and then I explored his actual background and beliefs. I'm not sure if this is some sort of strange gotcha monent or something else but it's fairly obvious Daou is a good guy.

If you're asking if it's possible to be a progressive without being a Bernie supporter, then yes. He has always believed in a leftist vision (especially wrt foreign policy) - at the time, he just believed that it could be done in the current structures of the Democratic Party.

Ah I see the bro is up to his normal act when someone he likes is called out.  Really dude, this all you can do?  Thought you had more in you, but like always you seem to disappoint.

Nah. I just think it's funny that you've actually called it racist yourself to assume a POC is grifting, but gladly accused a POC who's to your left of faking his "leftward turn" for attention and money. There's the completely unfounded accusation of ignoring "the white candidate doing the same thing", but considering my last take wrt 2020, I've proven that wrong.

Oh right, I forgot. The only marginalized people that get your allyship are the people you support.