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Title: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Tabled) Post by: OneJ on November 03, 2019, 11:18:01 PM Quote ACT TO ESTABLISH A LIVING WAGE A. HOURLY WAGE I. The hourly wage in Lincoln shall be no less than $12 an hour II. Any work over 8 hours on a given day shall count as overtime hours III. Any overtime pay shall be an hourly amount of time and a half or at least $18 B. IMPLEMENTATION II. This bill will take effect one week after being signed by the Governor Sponsor: S019 Status: Debating Bill 5.4 has been introduced to the floor and debate shall last no less than 72 hours. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: Pyro on November 04, 2019, 01:21:01 PM To note, this is the current statute regarding wages.
Quote Lincoln Fair Wages Act of 2018 (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=318880.msg6784531#msg6784531) Section 1: Committee Creation 1. This bill, if passed, establishes the Lincoln Wages Committee (LWC). 2. This committee shall consist of 10 NPCs appointed by the chancellor. A minimum of five members of the LWC must represent labor unions in five major, distinct industries. These union representatives must be selected by membership-wide straw polls. 3. The committee can be dissolved and reformed by the Chancellor if seen necessary, however the committee cannot be dissolved without prior consent from a simple majority of committee members. 4. This committee shall act independently of the executive and Council. Section 2: Jobs of the LWC 1. The LWC is to divide Lincoln into ranges according to cost of living in the area. This can be done in as many ranges an needed. 2. Each of these ranges shall be assigned a minimum wage according to the average cost of living in the range. 3. The committee must be able to mathematically prove that the minimum wage set for each range is enough to cover cost of living: this shall include all basic expenses such as housing, food, and health care needs. 4. Range boundaries and wages are to be submitted and implemented every four months. Section 3: Enactment 1. The LWC is to be formed as soon after the passage of this bill as possible. 2. Wage ranges are to take effect June, 22, 2018 and are to be updated every four months afterwards. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 04, 2019, 02:43:22 PM I thank the Senator for informing us that we have had some action on the issue. Just as a note, this bill will not repeal the Lincoln Fair Wages Act. Instead, this simply adds to the legislation. It sets a minimum at which wages can be set by the Lincoln Fair Wages Act. Also the Lincoln Fair Wages is unclear in the wages that will be set, and this bill provides some clarity on this issue. Also the Fair Wages Act, does not deal with overtime pay or establish a set working week. Also I would like to ask the GM Team, if the LWC has submitted any standards, if they have we can revise the bill accordingly, to make sure that there would be a wage hike.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 04, 2019, 05:01:10 PM This is only a step backwards. The Living Wage Committee is a clearly logical process of setting a fair minimum wage that takes into account the varying cost of living across the region of Lincoln. Repealing it for a flat $12 dollar minimum wage across the region is a big step backwards.
The Living Wage per various sources I could find in Lincoln would be between $15 and $20 dollars an hour depending on the state. So a flat minimum wage at any level would result in some workers having a large pay cut while others have their wage increased significantly. A single flat minimum wage for the entire region (and one that isn't even indexed to inflation) would be a large step backwards that would hurt most workers in Lincoln. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 04, 2019, 05:28:28 PM Reminder that this bill is an addition to the LWC and not a repeal
Anyways, I will propose an amendment either tomorrow or tonight, I appreciate the feedback from ASV Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 04, 2019, 06:38:49 PM Reminder that this bill is an addition to the LWC and not a repeal Anyways, I will propose an amendment either tomorrow or tonight, I appreciate the feedback from ASV This adds nothing to the living wage committee. The LWC is already setting minimum wages for the region that are already in excess of $12 hourly. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: Unconditional Surrender Truman on November 04, 2019, 06:40:31 PM Yeah, this would likely be a wage cut for many Lincolnians.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: fhtagn on November 04, 2019, 08:02:13 PM Also worth noting an important bit that was overlooked:
Quote III. Any overtime pay shall be an hourly amount of time and a half or at least $18 I bolded the bit that is a problem. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: Pragmatist_TNAG on November 05, 2019, 03:53:13 PM An amendment
Quote ACT TO ESTABLISH A LIVING WAGE A. HOURLY WAGE I. The hourly wage in Lincoln shall be no less than II. Any work over 8 hours on a given day shall count as overtime hours III. Any overtime pay shall be an hourly amount of time and a half or at least B. IMPLEMENTATION II. This bill will take effect one week after being signed by the Governor I appreciate any feedback Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 05, 2019, 03:56:44 PM That would still result in urban workers getting pay cuts while rural workers get a substantial pay increase. The very point of a living wage is that the minimum wage varies across the region depending on the local Cost of Living. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 06, 2019, 12:51:14 AM An amendment Quote ACT TO ESTABLISH A LIVING WAGE A. HOURLY WAGE I. The hourly wage in Lincoln shall be no less than II. Any work over 8 hours on a given day shall count as overtime hours III. Any overtime pay shall be an hourly amount of time and a half or at least B. IMPLEMENTATION II. This bill will take effect one week after being signed by the Governor I appreciate any feedback Friendly But I want to adjust it a bit to make it align with the Fair Wages Act, so I'll propose a slightly modified amendment Quote ACT TO ESTABLISH A LIVING WAGE A. HOURLY WAGE I. The hourly wage in Lincoln shall be no less than II. The exact minimum wage for any given location must be between $16 and $31 and will be determined by the Lincoln Wages Committee as outlined in the Lincoln Fair Wages Act (L. 10.3.3) III. IV. B. IMPLEMENTATION II. This bill will take effect one week after being signed by the Governor Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 06, 2019, 12:58:13 AM With this amendment this bill does nothing and is totally illogical. The Living Wage Commission will already be setting the living wage within that band, so what's the point of enacting this do-nothing legislation?
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: OneJ on November 06, 2019, 04:39:02 PM After thinking about this, I think it might be best to table this. Wasn't sure Lincoln had a minimum wage law before this though I vaguely remember something of the sort from some time ago and it seems to be the one Pyro posted.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 09, 2019, 11:34:32 PM I will propose another amendment
Quote ACT TO ESTABLISH A LIVING WAGE A. HOURLY WAGE I. The hourly wage in Lincoln shall be no less than II. The exact minimum wage for any given location must be between III. The minimum wage will be indexed to inflation VI. Overtime wage will be indexed to inflation. B. IMPLEMENTATION II. This bill will take effect one week after being signed by the Governor Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: AustralianSwingVoter on November 09, 2019, 11:54:47 PM Raising the numbers only makes it worse. Now the entire current living wage framework is rendered useless in favour of a vague meaningless minimum wage floor that is far too high even under the most optimistic of assumptions.
This entire legislation is pointless and really should be tabled or withdrawn already. Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: OneJ on November 10, 2019, 08:49:59 AM In that case, it's probably the best decision to table this.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 10, 2019, 11:01:09 AM I concur with the Speaker. We have tried to do a lot for this bill and in the end, it looks like it’s largely unworkable.
As such, I motion to table this bill Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: OneJ on November 10, 2019, 11:02:05 AM Councilors have 24 hours to object to the motion to table.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: OneJ on November 11, 2019, 06:10:24 PM The vote to table has now opened and councilors may vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN.
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: Pragmatist_TNAG on November 11, 2019, 08:53:26 PM Aye
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: S019 on November 11, 2019, 09:34:57 PM AYE
Title: Re: LC 5.4: Act to Establish a Living Wage (Debating) Post by: OneJ on November 12, 2019, 05:45:48 PM All three members have voted in favor of tabling so, therefore, it's finalized.
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