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Title: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Plankton5165 on December 10, 2019, 12:47:14 AM
I'd vote for the Democratic candidate. Whether it's Warren, Buttigieg, Gabbard, Biden, or Sanders.

Despite my party, IKR!


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: McGarnagle on December 10, 2019, 01:38:32 AM
I'll vote for the Democratic nominee, as long as it is not Bloomberg. I would prefer Sanders, and my second preference would be Warren. I was never thrilled with Biden and am increasingly souring on Buttigieg - but if they're the nominee, I'll vote for them.

If you're voting for the Democrat next year, why do you still have the Trump/Pence sign on your profile, if you don't mind my asking?


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Tartarus Sauce on December 10, 2019, 01:39:32 AM
I'd vote for the Democratic candidate. Whether it's Warren, Buttigieg, Gabbard, Biden, or Sanders.

Despite my party, IKR!

Then why do you have a Trump/Pence sign?

Anyway, I'd vote for the Democrat no matter who it happened to be.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Hammy on December 10, 2019, 02:00:08 AM
I'll vote for the Democratic nominee, as long as it is not Bloomberg. I would prefer Sanders, and my second preference would be Warren. I was never thrilled with Biden and am increasingly souring on Buttigieg - but if they're the nominee, I'll vote for them.


This, but flip Bloomberg and Biden--I can't in good conscience vote for any Democrat who desires the Republicans to maintain power and goes so far as campaigning for any in the Trump era as Biden did.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: ProudModerate2 on December 10, 2019, 02:12:49 AM
I'd vote for the Democratic candidate. Whether it's Warren, Buttigieg, Gabbard, Biden, or Sanders.

Assuming the Rep 2020 candidate is trump, I completely agree with you.
trump has become cancer to our nation. and all of its democratic institutions.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on December 10, 2019, 02:45:45 AM
I would vote for Biden or Sanders, but Trump can win, and should not be underestimated


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Penn_Quaker_Girl on December 10, 2019, 06:28:28 AM
I'd vote for Biden if I absolutely had to choose.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Queen Isuelt on December 10, 2019, 06:48:39 AM
I would vote for Trump unless Klobuchar was the nominee.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: gottsu on December 10, 2019, 07:17:33 AM
I am not a American citizen, so my "vote" will be purely in make-believe manner. 

I would vote for whoever becomes Democratic nominee.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Mercenary on December 10, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Ill vote against Trump. That means that the D nominee will be selected on my voting pamphlet, but its not really vote for them so much as a vote against Trump. If Yang or Gabbard magically wins the nomination then itd be a strong vote for the D candidate.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: jaichind on December 10, 2019, 07:51:28 AM
Trump


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: 😥 on December 10, 2019, 08:03:11 AM
Trump vs All Democrats, except Gabbard and Williamson: Democrat
Trump vs Williamson: Third party, between two in swing state - Williamson
Trump vs Gabbard: Third party, between two in swing state - Trump



Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Former President tack50 on December 10, 2019, 08:09:44 AM
I am not a American citizen, so my "vote" will be purely in make-believe manner. 

I would vote for whoever becomes Democratic nominee.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Skye on December 10, 2019, 08:13:38 AM
Probably not for Trump.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on December 10, 2019, 08:21:15 AM
I am not a American citizen, so my "vote" will be purely in make-believe manner. 

I would vote for whoever becomes Democratic nominee.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Lambsbread on December 10, 2019, 08:24:40 AM
the one with (D) next to their name


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Xing on December 10, 2019, 11:35:18 AM
The Democratic nominee, though my enthusiasm will vary greatly depending on who it is.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: GP270watch on December 10, 2019, 12:24:27 PM
 I'd hopefully be voting for Warren. Would hold my nose and vote for any of the other Democrats over Trump, even though I don't like any of them.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Orser67 on December 10, 2019, 01:32:45 PM
I'd almost certainly vote for the Democratic nominee, though if Bloomberg is the Dem nominee I might write in Obama.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: LAKISYLVANIA on December 10, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, Steyer, Yang, Gabbard, Booker: The Democrat
Klobuchar, Biden: Undecided, and probably an emotional Trump vote.
Bloomberg: Trump

In swing states of course because i would be tempted to vote third party in a non-swing state.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Beefalow and the Consumer on December 10, 2019, 01:59:16 PM
I would vote for Trump unless Klobuchar was the nominee.

What don't you like about Klobuchar?


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: BlueSwan on December 10, 2019, 02:04:25 PM
I am not a American citizen, so my "vote" will be purely in make-believe manner. 

I would vote for whoever becomes Democratic nominee.
Same.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Lambsbread on December 10, 2019, 02:24:49 PM
I would vote for Trump unless Klobuchar was the nominee.

What don't you like about Klobuchar?

I think the poster is saying the opposite; Klobuchar is the only Dem they would vote for over Trump


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Queen Isuelt on December 10, 2019, 03:03:06 PM
I would vote for Trump unless Klobuchar was the nominee.

What don't you like about Klobuchar?

I wish she was from Michigan or in the Republican Party. She’s incredibly smart, realistic and in politics for the right reason - to get shot done. She’s not disruptive and wants to make life better.

What makes her different to everyone else is she takes on issues like drug prices, immigration reform, infrastructure and sits down with people and finds out what can be agreed on. If you have 30 republican senators that say she’s one of the best democrats in Washington but the primary is to liberal for her to win it tells me this is the hard bit.

She’s very impressive when asked to go into detail on a range of issues which you can’t do on debates and stuff.

I think she has a great chance of getting the Des Moines register endorsement. (Watching her and Bernie pitch it was clear they were very impressed with her and gave up on Bernie)


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on December 10, 2019, 04:49:07 PM
Since I consider Donald Trump to be a clear and present danger to the future of American democracy, I will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is.  I'd have to grit my teeth for a couple of the current candidates, but thankfully they have no chance to win the nomination.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Beefalow and the Consumer on December 10, 2019, 05:12:33 PM
I would vote for Trump unless Klobuchar was the nominee.

What don't you like about Klobuchar?

I wish she was from Michigan or in the Republican Party. She’s incredibly smart, realistic and in politics for the right reason - to get shot done. She’s not disruptive and wants to make life better.

What makes her different to everyone else is she takes on issues like drug prices, immigration reform, infrastructure and sits down with people and finds out what can be agreed on. If you have 30 republican senators that say she’s one of the best democrats in Washington but the primary is to liberal for her to win it tells me this is the hard bit.

She’s very impressive when asked to go into detail on a range of issues which you can’t do on debates and stuff.

I think she has a great chance of getting the Des Moines register endorsement. (Watching her and Bernie pitch it was clear they were very impressed with her and gave up on Bernie)

I misread your comment, sorry.

I am impressed with Klobuchar, and I think she's one of the few candidates whom both the Democratic base and the Never-Trumpers can both stomach. She's like Biden without the creeping senility and... creeping.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Plankton5165 on December 10, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
I'd vote for the Democratic candidate. Whether it's Warren, Buttigieg, Gabbard, Biden, or Sanders.

Despite my party, IKR!

Then why do you have a Trump/Pence sign?
That was from 2016, when I really didn't want a Democrat to win, and I didn't even know the sign was there.

But in 2008, I was actually cheering for Obama, and in 2012, I didn't really seem to care who won, but if I had to pick one, I would've picked Obama.

In the last few weeks, I've called myself a swing voter. A battleground. I can always change my mind later. But the Democrats certainly have a chance of receiving my vote in 2020.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: TML on December 10, 2019, 05:51:32 PM
I'll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

However, there is only one candidate (Sanders) for whom I'd be willing to go the extra mile for, so if the nominee is him, I'll promote him among people I know and try to get them to vote for him as well; if the nominee is anyone else, I won't promote that person.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Senator-elect Spark on December 10, 2019, 05:53:21 PM
If the Dem nominee was Sanders or Pete I would probably vote Democratic. If it's anyone else, I'd vote for Trump again.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: morgankingsley on December 10, 2019, 06:16:41 PM
A unexcited Trump vote


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: pbrower2a on December 10, 2019, 06:25:01 PM
At this point I can hardly imagine anyone for whom I would vote for Trump over. Lyn LaRouche would have to return from the grave or David DuKKKe would have to slither into a nomination for me to vote for Trump.

If I were 33 instead of 63 I would consider emigration if Trump got re-elected.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: I Can Now Die Happy on December 10, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
I would proudly cast my first ever Presidential election vote for the greatest President of my lifetime and possibly the greatest this nation has ever seen - Donald John Trump, a fellow boy from Queens. I will hopefully contribute to his percentage in New York State jumping from 36.52% to over 40%. Sadly he will be casting his ballot down in Florida on that same day rather than closer to me. *sigh* I guess he's just too good for NYC now =(

Maybe there's still time to meet him one day? I have so many things I'd love to say to him!


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: SN2903 on December 10, 2019, 07:12:53 PM
Trump.
If Gabbard was the nominee I would lean towards her.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: SingingAnalyst on December 10, 2019, 07:23:50 PM
I guess I'd have to vote Democratic to compensate for all the Democrats who have moved to Mexico or Venezuela since Trump was elected.... wait, never mind....


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on December 10, 2019, 07:24:30 PM
Any Democrat.

And good for you for having principles, Plankton!


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on December 10, 2019, 07:58:33 PM
Bernie Sanders v Trump, no Biden, who isnt the right candidate


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Arizona Iced Tea on December 10, 2019, 09:38:35 PM
I would vote for Orange Man over anyone
But if he doesn't make it to 2020, then I will choose 3rd party (Vermin Supreme) or Sanders if he gets the Dem Nomination


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Starry Eyed Jagaloon on December 10, 2019, 09:59:33 PM
The Democrat (not evil)


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Gracile on December 10, 2019, 10:19:14 PM
Howie Hawkins tentatively.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: morgankingsley on December 10, 2019, 10:34:08 PM
Any Democrat.

And good for you for having principles, Plankton!

I was so confused when I saw his post because of his trump pence image until he explained himself


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: 538Electoral on December 10, 2019, 11:40:57 PM
Trump. As long as no recession or other major catastrophe happens, He has my vote.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin on December 11, 2019, 12:20:45 AM
The Democratic nominee, even if its Bloomberg or Gabbard.

Years of watching Republicans in actions has convinced me I need to vote tactically. Better someone sane, even if I disagree with them, than an incompetent and vile madman.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: TarHeelDem on December 11, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
Warren is my strong preference in the primary, but I will vote and canvass for whoever the Democratic nominee is in the general. Trump is the worst president in the history of the United States. The federal government's descent into authoritarianism over the past 3 years has terrified me. It has to end.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: MT Treasurer on December 11, 2019, 01:01:39 AM
PRES: Third party

SEN: Steve Daines (R) over any Democrat (Despite some disagreements, Daines is surprisingly good for a Republican Senator from MT, especially when it comes to the pro-life cause. Also, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer wouldn’t be a pretty thing.)

GOV: Genuinely undecided (Likely Gianforte (R) in the primary, but I could see myself voting for Cooney (D) in the GE. Definitely not Williams.)

Probably all the other Republicans down ballot.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: SuperCow on December 11, 2019, 07:32:53 AM
Trump, but I might consider Tulsi Gabbard since I live in Maryland and my vote doesn’t really matter here.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Progressive Pessimist on December 11, 2019, 06:37:52 PM
Any Democrat.

And good for you for having principles, Plankton!

I was so confused when I saw his post because of his trump pence image until he explained himself

I was too, they should consider changing that.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: redeagleofficial on December 11, 2019, 06:46:22 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: morgankingsley on December 11, 2019, 06:49:21 PM
If it makes people feel any better about my answer, I was originally going to write "stay home" but people always stress that voting for somebody is always better than staying home, so I just went with the option that I dislike the least


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on December 11, 2019, 08:48:34 PM
Just like I did in 2000 and 2016, with Gore and Hilary, I bit my tongue and voted for them over corruption,  I would do the same in 2020, with Biden, but it was easy to do with Hilary due to sympathy of her being a female.

Warren or Harris would of been much better nominees, but the Dem AA establishment went over AA Civil Rights leaders Sharpton and Oprah, who were open to Harris, and the likes of Carol Mosley-Braun  endorsed Biden, instead. If he loses, it's to their detriment,  but hopefully that wont happen


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: BP🌹 on December 11, 2019, 08:59:49 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Bojack Horseman on December 11, 2019, 09:06:35 PM
I will be checking the newly-reinstated straight ticket D box.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: redeagleofficial on December 11, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Dr Oz Lost Party! on December 11, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
If it was the primary, I'd vote for Biden... as for the general, the Democrat (duh).


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Libertas Vel Mors on December 12, 2019, 12:18:52 AM
Straight R


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: PSOL on December 12, 2019, 12:24:37 AM
If the D nominee is Sanders or possibly Warren, then I’m voting for whatever D ticket that could cause.

If not, 3rd party. I don’t believe in voting for a similar evil.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: FalloutBoy97 on December 12, 2019, 12:30:21 AM
I'd vote for any democrat over Trump besides Williamson (I'd vote 3rd party in that case). Gabbard would be a hard swallow but if we're going to have a President that brown noses dictators and wants to cede the world stage to Russia and Iran it might as well be someone who is moderately left of center on domestic issues. Straight ticket D downballot.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: MarkD on December 12, 2019, 09:14:03 AM
I'll vote Pete Buttigieg for the primary. I'll vote for him in November if he's the nominee. If not, I'll vote for an Evan McMullin-like 3rd party candidate.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: GeorgiaModerate on December 12, 2019, 11:22:26 AM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

This is possibly the most stupid post I have read in 11 years on this forum.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: morgankingsley on December 12, 2019, 04:59:52 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

This is possibly the most stupid post I have read in 11 years on this forum.

The thing with me was that I could barely even tell how half of that even connected to immigration once we got to pedophilia. I mean, the two don't really seem to tie together in my mind. Maybe there is a higher ratio of pedophiles by percentage among immigrants than I know? But otherwise, I just simply don't seem to get the comparison.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: It’s so Joever on December 12, 2019, 07:06:32 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.
Delete your account already.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Frodo on December 13, 2019, 12:58:38 AM
I'll vote for whoever we nominate, though my first preference will be Elizabeth Warren if she is still in the race by Super Tuesday (when Virginia gets its chance to vote). 


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Penn_Quaker_Girl on December 13, 2019, 07:33:15 AM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

You say that it doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, but your use of "the border" makes it seem as though you're referring to a specific demographic.

Probably just semantics on my part. 

So let me ask you, redeagle, by that thinking: does it bother you that my parents and I (as first and second generation immigrants from India) aren't onboard the Trump train or this rightward lurch that the GOP has taken while still generally disagreeing with ultra- progressive policies?


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Higgins on December 13, 2019, 09:59:36 AM
If the democratic nominee is Biden, than him. If anyone else, Trump.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: redeagleofficial on December 13, 2019, 02:51:14 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

You say that it doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, but your use of "the border" makes it seem as though you're referring to a specific demographic.

Probably just semantics on my part. 

So let me ask you, redeagle, by that thinking: does it bother you that my parents and I (as first and second generation immigrants from India) aren't onboard the Trump train or this rightward lurch that the GOP has taken while still generally disagreeing with ultra- progressive policies?


I don’t care what you are. Border means nothing. The GOP isn’t moving right though, it’s moved left and that’s the issue.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Penn_Quaker_Girl on December 13, 2019, 03:15:54 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

You say that it doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, but your use of "the border" makes it seem as though you're referring to a specific demographic.

Probably just semantics on my part. 

So let me ask you, redeagle, by that thinking: does it bother you that my parents and I (as first and second generation immigrants from India) aren't onboard the Trump train or this rightward lurch that the GOP has taken while still generally disagreeing with ultra- progressive policies?


I don’t care what you are. Border means nothing. The GOP isn’t moving right though, it’s moved left and that’s the issue.

In that case, what would a truly "right" GOP look like? Is there anybody close to that description in Congress right now?


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: redeagleofficial on December 13, 2019, 03:58:39 PM
Trump.  He can't fully save this country from the evils of immigration and cultural downfall, but he can save this country from globalism and people who are controlling it.  2024 we go to stage 2
You're supposed to limit your opposition to illegal immigration to have plausible deniability.

I don't want a million people a year coming here to vote for your left wing nonsense.  Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, it takes 4 generations for them to vote for the right, and has been that way for years.  Overwhelming the border will destroy this nation, as the left has trended to the left with still being able to win, giving us things like pedophilia and the drag queen story hour, a reduction of gun rights, abortion (now it's after birth abortion!), a rise in fascism (because it has become palatable in comparison to the nonsense to some weak minded individuals on the right), etc etc.  A strain on workers, even MLK/Cesar Chavez have noted this.  Our country's freedoms are changing too quickly and may soon be eroded.  It's terrible for me but you should be happy, and that's the full honest answer.

You say that it doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like, but your use of "the border" makes it seem as though you're referring to a specific demographic.

Probably just semantics on my part.  

So let me ask you, redeagle, by that thinking: does it bother you that my parents and I (as first and second generation immigrants from India) aren't onboard the Trump train or this rightward lurch that the GOP has taken while still generally disagreeing with ultra- progressive policies?


I don’t care what you are. Border means nothing. The GOP isn’t moving right though, it’s moved left and that’s the issue.

In that case, what would a truly "right" GOP look like? Is there anybody close to that description in Congress right now?

How the hell has it moved right?  Just because Trump is an idiot (at times) who can't control his big mouth does not mean it has moved right.  The dems wanted a wall in 2010.  Trump is cool with gay marriage and immigration at the HIGHEST NUMBERS which will ultimately be the death of the Republican Party as we know it.  You voted for HILLARY CLINTON.  Not even Johnson.  Not even McMuffin.  Not even Jill Stein, HILLARY CLINTON.  You don't have room to talk here.

Truly a right America (in my view) to get back to your original point:
1. A family system.  Women and men should follow traditional gender roles more often than not.  There are exceptions, but this has truly been the downfall of values.  Back then, men and women voted almost the same.  Feminism has led to women voting 20 points to the left of men, as dems have the upper end to push a leftward agenda.  Cut welfare and greater incentivize this plan through taxes.
2. A 50-year immigration moratorium in which we make English our official language and let immigrants assimilate.  This will ensure a more Republican Latino population and lead to less racial tensions due to multiculturalism.
3. I'm not too upset with gay marriage, but make it civil unions.  The trans/drag queen/pedo stuff is just around the corner if you do not draw a line in the sand somewhere.
4. An overturn of Roe v. Wade. You do not need to have after-birth abortions.  Another example of why conservatives and neocons haven't conserved anything.
5. No gun restrictions.  When you cure the culture, mass shootings die out.
6. No foreign aid or war.  I am a Zionist, part Jewish ethnically, love Israel, love that Trump moved the embassy, etc. but they do not need our help in the terms of 38 billion a year.  America first.
7. Privatize things like the TSA

For Congress, to answer the last part, sadly, nobody.  Pete D'Abrosca (running in NC-07) is a good start, but even as an Arab immigrant he is being smeared by the left machine as a White Nationalist bc he edgy-memed back in the day.  We need more people like him, probably with a more optical history on social media.  Even Steve King is too cucked on immigration despite him being a near open racist (possible controlled opposition?).  I'm still waiting for a candidate to address the family problem, I will actually give Andrew Yang credit for that.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 13, 2019, 05:17:19 PM
Pulling for Biden, but would consider Buttigeg.  Sanders and Warren would see me vote Trump.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: W on December 13, 2019, 09:51:35 PM
i live in new york so it does not matter. bernie or green party, maybe warren but her viability for this nomination has fallen off a cliff. if yang or gabbard magically gets it, sure i'd give them my vote.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 13, 2019, 10:04:32 PM
I will be checking the newly-reinstated straight ticket D box.

I found out they removed the straight-ticket voting option here in Texas.  I have a feeling this might help Texas Democrats gain better footing in the state instead of being subverted by a big name Republican at the top of the ballot.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Hermit For Peace on December 13, 2019, 10:06:40 PM
I would vote for Biden or Sanders, but Trump can win, and should not be underestimated

This is the reason Trump is going to go down in flames: the female voter.

There are more females than males who vote in elections now. And over 60% of females are not going to vote for trump.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are

https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likely-vote-women-or-men-3534271

Women are moving away from trump, and in my opinion, what is sealing the deal is how he treated Greta, a 16 yr old girl who he felt threatened by because of his glaring insecurities.

Mothers are not going to go for Trump bullying a small girl who is voicing her opinion to save the environment.

That was the turning point, where trump sealed his own fate. He's going down in flames!

You watch. Don't come between a mother and her child.



Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Hermit For Peace on December 13, 2019, 10:07:41 PM

If the election were held today I would vote for Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Libertas Vel Mors on December 13, 2019, 10:31:26 PM
I would vote for Biden or Sanders, but Trump can win, and should not be underestimated

This is the reason Trump is going to go down in flames: the female voter.

There are more females than males who vote in elections now. And over 60% of females are not going to vote for trump.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are

https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likely-vote-women-or-men-3534271

Women are moving away from trump, and in my opinion, what is sealing the deal is how he treated Greta, a 16 yr old girl who he felt threatened by because of his glaring insecurities.

Mothers are not going to go for Trump bullying a small girl who is voicing her opinion to save the environment.

That was the turning point, where trump sealed his own fate. He's going down in flames!

You watch. Don't come between a mother and her child.



This is incredibly, hilariously, stereotypically sexist. You go man.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: It’s so Joever on December 13, 2019, 10:38:28 PM
I would vote for Biden or Sanders, but Trump can win, and should not be underestimated

This is the reason Trump is going to go down in flames: the female voter.

There are more females than males who vote in elections now. And over 60% of females are not going to vote for trump.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are

https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likely-vote-women-or-men-3534271

Women are moving away from trump, and in my opinion, what is sealing the deal is how he treated Greta, a 16 yr old girl who he felt threatened by because of his glaring insecurities.

Mothers are not going to go for Trump bullying a small girl who is voicing her opinion to save the environment.

That was the turning point, where trump sealed his own fate. He's going down in flames!

You watch. Don't come between a mother and her child.



This is incredibly, hilariously, stereotypically sexist. You go man.
“Facts are sexist.”
-GOP snowflakes


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: redeagleofficial on December 13, 2019, 11:38:20 PM
I would vote for Biden or Sanders, but Trump can win, and should not be underestimated

This is the reason Trump is going to go down in flames: the female voter.

There are more females than males who vote in elections now. And over 60% of females are not going to vote for trump.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/447308-trumps-giant-gender-gap-62-percent-of-women-say-they-are

https://www.thoughtco.com/more-likely-vote-women-or-men-3534271

Women are moving away from trump, and in my opinion, what is sealing the deal is how he treated Greta, a 16 yr old girl who he felt threatened by because of his glaring insecurities.

Mothers are not going to go for Trump bullying a small girl who is voicing her opinion to save the environment.

That was the turning point, where trump sealed his own fate. He's going down in flames!

You watch. Don't come between a mother and her child.



This is incredibly, hilariously, stereotypically sexist. You go man.
“Facts are sexist.”
-GOP snowflakes

It's not sexist but it's not true


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on December 14, 2019, 02:45:43 AM
White women turned sharply against the GOP in many states in 2018, but they are the most fickle voting group so it doesn't mean much.


Title: Re: If the election was held today, how would you vote?
Post by: Tender Branson on December 14, 2019, 02:48:36 AM
D - no matter who gets nominated.

But my primary preference is Pete, Amy, Warren, Sanders ... gap ... the rest.