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General Politics => U.S. General Discussion => Topic started by: A18 on January 26, 2006, 02:08:19 PM



Title: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: A18 on January 26, 2006, 02:08:19 PM
Absolutely not. If this happens, the networks are going to pull out two minute or one minute segments they want to highlight, and give a horribly distorted view of the process.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Emsworth on January 26, 2006, 02:13:33 PM
Definitely not. The American People are already quite misinformed about the Supreme Court; their views would become even more distorted if they started listening to brief soundbites played on television.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: MODU on January 26, 2006, 02:53:29 PM


I vote no.  All it does is change the hearings from one of trying to gauge if the candidate is qualified for the position to one where the Congressmen grandstand and try to make political speeches.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Ebowed on January 26, 2006, 03:18:37 PM
No.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: nlm on January 26, 2006, 03:26:58 PM
Definitely not. The American People are already quite misinformed about the Supreme Court; their views would become even more distorted if they started listening to brief soundbites played on television.

Letting people see 30 second snips of something important would differ from the rest of American life how exactly? The American people are "allowed" to watch political attack ads; this would be more distorting how? People standing over the American public choosing what they are grown up enough to watch always smacks me wrong. If folks want to see the 30 second CNN version, well to bad for them; if they want the 4 hour CSPAN2 version, well maybe they need a life. But it would be their call.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: John Dibble on January 26, 2006, 03:31:52 PM
Definitely not. The American People are already quite misinformed about the Supreme Court; their views would become even more distorted if they started listening to brief soundbites played on television.

Letting people see 30 second snips of something important would differ from the rest of American life how exactly? The American people are "allowed" to watch political attack ads; this would be more distorting how? People standing over the American public choosing what they are grown up enough to watch always smacks me wrong. If folks want to see the 30 second CNN version, well to bad for them; if they want the 4 hour CSPAN2 version, well maybe they need a life.

That's his point - it isn't different. He doesn't want that mess to be extended to the Supreme Court.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Emsworth on January 26, 2006, 03:36:09 PM
Definitely not. The American People are already quite misinformed about the Supreme Court; their views would become even more distorted if they started listening to brief soundbites played on television.

Letting people see 30 second snips of something important would differ from the rest of American life how exactly? The American people are "allowed" to watch political attack ads; this would be more distorting how? People standing over the American public choosing what they are grown up enough to watch always smacks me wrong. If folks want to see the 30 second CNN version, well to bad for them; if they want the 4 hour CSPAN2 version, well maybe they need a life.

That's his point - it isn't different. He doesn't want that mess to be extended to the Supreme Court.
Exactly. It would lead to the judiciary becoming even more politicized, and less insulated from the public, than it is now.

Moreover, the very idea of televising a judicial proceeding strikes me as absurd. Some participants in the hearing might become more interested in acting for the cameras than in actually resolving a legal dispute.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: nlm on January 26, 2006, 03:48:04 PM
Definitely not. The American People are already quite misinformed about the Supreme Court; their views would become even more distorted if they started listening to brief soundbites played on television.

Letting people see 30 second snips of something important would differ from the rest of American life how exactly? The American people are "allowed" to watch political attack ads; this would be more distorting how? People standing over the American public choosing what they are grown up enough to watch always smacks me wrong. If folks want to see the 30 second CNN version, well to bad for them; if they want the 4 hour CSPAN2 version, well maybe they need a life.

That's his point - it isn't different. He doesn't want that mess to be extended to the Supreme Court.

I got that John, and was just poking a little fun at the whole "we are the wise big brother watching over the dumb American people" thing going on here.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: A18 on January 26, 2006, 05:45:12 PM
Oral arguments are typically one hour, not four, by the way.

I vote no.  All it does is change the hearings from one of trying to gauge if the candidate is qualified for the position to one where the Congressmen grandstand and try to make political speeches.

Uh, I'm not talking about confirmation hearings.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Beet on January 26, 2006, 05:48:20 PM
Absolutely not. If this happens, the networks are going to pull out two minute or one minute segments they want to highlight, and give a horribly distorted view of the process.

The networks already give a horribly distorted view of whatever they cover, so if they take up time distorting the way the court works, that'll just  prevent them from distorting something else. I don't see a net gain or loss here.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: A18 on January 26, 2006, 05:50:54 PM
It's true that they offer a distorted view of just about everything. But we shouldn't be giving them ammo to distort the judiciary process.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: ATFFL on January 26, 2006, 06:19:24 PM
They already run audio clips and will publish snippets from the proceedings.  Showing the actual arguments would be better.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Frodo on January 26, 2006, 06:21:39 PM
I'm glad to see the results of this poll don't break along partisan lines.....  :P



Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: MODU on January 26, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Oral arguments are typically one hour, not four, by the way.

I vote no.  All it does is change the hearings from one of trying to gauge if the candidate is qualified for the position to one where the Congressmen grandstand and try to make political speeches.

Uh, I'm not talking about confirmation hearings.

I know.  I think I phrased it a bit oddly. 


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: nlm on January 26, 2006, 11:04:26 PM
Oral arguments are typically one hour, not four, by the way.



Pre-game and post game coverage. it's the American way. Kidding.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Cubby on January 27, 2006, 01:44:10 AM
They should definetely not be televised


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: The Duke on January 27, 2006, 01:48:01 AM
I think they should.  People have such a distorted view of the SC partly because its so inaccesible.  If it were more accesible. people might have a better understanding of what goes on.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: Cubby on January 28, 2006, 02:52:17 AM
I think they should.  People have such a distorted view of the SC partly because its so inaccesible.  If it were more accesible. people might have a better understanding of what goes on.

Thats kind of a weak argument. Few people would watch the proceedings, those that would (like us) already understand how the court works. Anyway, the Supreme Court should just do its job, and not worry what people think about it, thats partly why Congress has become so corrupted.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: nlm on January 28, 2006, 11:27:13 AM
I think they should.  People have such a distorted view of the SC partly because its so inaccesible.  If it were more accesible. people might have a better understanding of what goes on.

Thats kind of a weak argument. Few people would watch the proceedings, those that would (like us) already understand how the court works. Anyway, the Supreme Court should just do its job, and not worry what people think about it, thats partly why Congress has become so corrupted.

Congress has become corrupt because it worries about what the people of this country think? Please explain why you believe Congress actually cares what the people of this nation think (at least in terms of opinions that they can not manipulate with TV ads and PAC money) and how that leads to corruption. Do you also believe that if we prevented TV coverage of the legislative branch at the highest level it would reduce congressional corruption? Or does this have more to do with the spin put on the coverage which is made possible by the ridiculous amount of money in our political system? Just asking.


Title: Re: Should Supreme Court proceedings be televised?
Post by: The Duke on January 28, 2006, 03:10:24 PM
I think they should.  People have such a distorted view of the SC partly because its so inaccesible.  If it were more accesible. people might have a better understanding of what goes on.

Thats kind of a weak argument. Few people would watch the proceedings, those that would (like us) already understand how the court works. Anyway, the Supreme Court should just do its job, and not worry what people think about it, thats partly why Congress has become so corrupted.

Congress is corrupt because they're on TV?  Hmmm, no.