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Election Archive => 2006 Senatorial Election Polls => Topic started by: Democratic Hawk on March 31, 2006, 08:03:46 PM



Title: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Democratic Hawk on March 31, 2006, 08:03:46 PM
I know Zogby is much derided around here but, neverthless:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash06.html?project=elections06-ft

Dave



Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: zorkpolitics on March 31, 2006, 11:27:47 PM
Although no fan of Zogby, I'm most surprised that Kohl is only up by 0.8%!
And why in the world isn't he polling RI or MT?



Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Sam Spade on March 31, 2006, 11:45:17 PM
Zogby = Horse s.hit


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Smash255 on April 01, 2006, 12:02:55 AM
Although no fan of Zogby, I'm most surprised that Kohl is only up by 0.8%!
And why in the world isn't he polling RI or MT?



Having trouble getting into his poll, but I think the WI poll is because for some reason beyond the realm of even normal stupidity he is only polling Kohl against Thompson someone who isn't even running.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Alcon on April 01, 2006, 12:55:31 AM
Although no fan of Zogby, I'm most surprised that Kohl is only up by 0.8%!

The first part of your sentence makes the second a non-sequitor.  :)

And why in the world isn't he polling RI or MT?

Again, see your first sentence.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 01, 2006, 02:02:26 AM
Washington - believable
Nevada - believable
Arizona - Kyl has to be up more than that
New Mexico - believable
Texas - believable
Minnesota - much as I'd like to believe it, I can't see Klobuchar being up by that much. She's certainly ahead though.
Missouri - believable but contradicting other polls
Tennessee - believeable
Florida - believable
Wisconsin - believable but pointless. Thompson is not running.
Michigan - believable
Ohio - a bit too strong for DeWine
Virginia - Allen should be doing better
New York - believable
Pennsylvania - believable
New Jersey - believable
Maryland - believable

Most are accurate, but those are the easy to predict ones, and the incorrect ones are so far off it makes you doubt the accuracy on a whole. In the end not really worth paying too much attention to.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2006, 02:06:50 AM
I'm most surprised that Kohl is only up by 0.8%!

Kohl is only up by 0.8% because Zogby, being retarded, polled him against Tommy Thompson, which is not happening.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2006, 02:12:29 AM

Don't you mean for Brown?  DeWine is down nearly 9 points in the poll.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Rococo4 on April 01, 2006, 03:13:13 AM

Don't you mean for Brown?  DeWine is down nearly 9 points in the poll.

I would hope that is what he meant......DeWine is probably holding on to a small lead right now.

Rememeber Zogby had Tenn. as a tossup for most of 2004.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Democratic Hawk on April 01, 2006, 12:44:52 PM
From Alcon :)

Arizona Kyl 47%, Pederson 42%
Florida Nelson 50%, Harris 38%
Maryland Cardin 49%, Steele 39%
Michigan Stabenow 51%, Butler 39%
Minnesota Klobuchar* 49%, Kennedy 41%
Missouri Talent 48%, McCaskill 45%
Nevada Ensign 48%, Goodman 40%
New Jersey Menendez 40%, Kean 40%
New Mexico Bingaman 50%, Pfeffer 31%
New York Clinton 54%, Spencer 33%
Ohio Brown* 46%, DeWine 37%
Pennsylvania Casey* 47%, Santorum 39%
Tennessee Byant 50%, Ford Jr. 42%
Texas Hutchinson 60%, Radnofsky 31%
Virginia Allen 49%, Webb 42%
Washington Cantwell 49%, McGavick 42%
Wisconsin Kohl 47%, Thompson 46%

Dave


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Sam Spade on April 01, 2006, 12:46:48 PM
I'm going to cut and paste my rant from the other thread, since it applies here also.

Here's the reason.  I can halfway trust his phone polls, because I'm sure he conducts phone polls like everyone else.

His internet polls derive from a self-selected group.  It is essentially those people who sign up for his polls on the Internet.  We can see the people this type of method will tend to favor and the type of people it won't.  His survey is full of those people who are super-interested in politics (typically partisans) and have Internet access and who also know who in the hell John Zogby is.  People it would leave out are those who not figured in this list.

I am actually one of those people who took this poll.  Not that I care about the results, mind you, but as you can see I fit the description perfectly.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on April 01, 2006, 02:40:59 PM
are these the internet polls and not phone ones?

I agree the internet ones are completely useless.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Sam Spade on April 01, 2006, 03:06:22 PM
are these the internet polls and not phone ones?

I agree the internet ones are completely useless.

They are the "internets" ones.

Anything that has Zogby Interactive in its name is an Internet poll.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Dave from Michigan on April 01, 2006, 03:14:52 PM
what thew hell, Butler most likely won't be the nominee 

Oakland county sheriff Michael Bouchard leads  Bulter and the other guy


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: ATFFL on April 01, 2006, 05:15:18 PM

Thou shalt not talk about horse droppings in such derogatory terms on my board, got it?


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Kevin on April 04, 2006, 06:47:07 PM
This can't be right!


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: Soaring Eagle on April 04, 2006, 07:54:11 PM
I agree. Too many of those aren't consistent with other polls we have been seeing.


Title: Re: Latest batch of Zogby-Wall Street Journal Senate polls
Post by: agcatter on April 04, 2006, 08:02:48 PM
Not the Zogby internet polls again.  Is Kerry still holding that small lead in Tennessee?