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Title: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: zorkpolitics on May 14, 2006, 02:49:44 PM
Just happened to notice that according to the 2004 results:
https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html
!05% of the registered voters in WY voted in 2004.  Besides fraud, is there an explanation for this?


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Sam Spade on May 14, 2006, 03:30:02 PM
No clue. 

Besides, I can find no reason why someone would want to commit fraud in Wyoming, because it's not like it would really matter.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: minionofmidas on May 14, 2006, 03:31:23 PM
Same day registration maybe?


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Alcon on May 14, 2006, 03:51:17 PM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Sam Spade on May 14, 2006, 03:53:23 PM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.

Well, then this explains it.  Next.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Republican Michigander on May 14, 2006, 05:54:46 PM
Another reason is that Wyoming is booming in population. A lot of Michiganders are moving there for work.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Alcon on May 14, 2006, 08:26:48 PM
Another reason is that Wyoming is booming in population. A lot of Michiganders are moving there for work.

Not really, although that would be a good explanation if it was true.  Wyoming's population growth between 2000 and 2004 was significantly below national average.

Besides, that doesn't have much to do with voting turnout (that wouldn't make the number of same-day registrations that high).


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on May 15, 2006, 11:35:29 AM
This question was asked before, and I said same day registration. I think someone disagreed though. I don't know what the option suggested was.

This has been known to occur in places with same day registration. In Nunavut's most recent territorial elections, I believe they had over 100% turnout.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 15, 2006, 12:31:14 PM
Blue Earth county had 122.8% turnout. I think we had the highest in the nation.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Bacon King on May 15, 2006, 04:44:54 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=28732.0


:P


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Max Power on May 15, 2006, 10:36:01 PM
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Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: KEmperor on May 17, 2006, 11:51:44 AM
Blue Earth county had 122.8% turnout. I think we had the highest in the nation.

Which makes areas with same day voting have these so called "turnout" stats useless. 


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: minionofmidas on May 18, 2006, 03:06:23 AM
Blue Earth county had 122.8% turnout. I think we had the highest in the nation.

Which makes areas with same day voting have these so called "turnout" stats useless. 
Not really ... it's meaning is just a different one than implied.

Which of course is actually a consequence of non-compulsory registration, not of same day voting.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: KEmperor on May 20, 2006, 09:59:07 AM
Blue Earth county had 122.8% turnout. I think we had the highest in the nation.

Which makes areas with same day voting have these so called "turnout" stats useless. 
Not really ... it's meaning is just a different one than implied.

Which of course is actually a consequence of non-compulsory registration, not of same day voting.

Yes, but I would say that the vast majority of the country uses the standard defination of the word, which makes numbers like "122% turnout" pointless when trying to compare turnout across the country.  You can't have "122%" turnout, the highest possible is 100%, meaning that everyone voted.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on May 20, 2006, 04:10:46 PM
Loving county, Texas also had greater than 100% turnout. Funny how the Republicans whine about voter fraud when its the Republican areas that exceed 100%.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Alcon on May 20, 2006, 05:31:33 PM
Loving county, Texas also had greater than 100% turnout. Funny how the Republicans whine about voter fraud when its the Republican areas that exceed 100%.

Not in 2004.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Yates on May 20, 2006, 07:07:28 PM
Loving county, Texas also had greater than 100% turnout. Funny how the Republicans whine about voter fraud when its the Republican areas that exceed 100%.

Not in 2004.

Does Loving County not have a mere 67 residents?


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: minionofmidas on May 21, 2006, 05:18:48 AM
Turnout in Loving was way down on 2000 - they attempted to clean the voter rolls - but it was still higher than the population.
Of course the extra votes are from people with ties to the region, mostly Loving natives, now living elsewhere. It's got some vicious local politics apparently (and amazingly) so people take care their relatives stay registered there to vote for them. Of course there's no way of proving these people voted elsewhere as well - some might have, some might not.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: minionofmidas on May 21, 2006, 06:38:29 AM
Just looked over census 2000 results for the county - the median age is 45. Though 13 residents are under 18, only 3 are 18-34 (there are no women aged 21-34), and one of them's a Mexican. (Of the county's 7 Hispanics, 5 live in a 5 person family household, one, a 61 or 62 year old male, lives alone - he's easy to identify because he's the county's only resident to claim two or more races - , and one apparently lives in a household with an Anglo householder.)
 


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: adam on May 25, 2006, 11:43:49 PM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.

Well, then this explains it.  Next.

Yep, because I really can't see a reason to fix Wyoming. That would be way too much insecurity. Even for the GOP.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Alcon on May 27, 2006, 05:25:19 PM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.

Well, then this explains it.  Next.

Yep, because I really can't see a reason to fix Wyoming. That would be way too much insecurity. Even for the GOP.

There is really only one state in the entire country without competitive elections whatsoever, and it isn't Wyoming, although Wyoming is somewhat close.  No good reason not to fix it either, I suppose?  It's better that than disaster the next time there is a competitive gubernatorial race (which may happen after Freudenthal retires).


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Nym90 on June 04, 2006, 06:17:31 PM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.

Well, then this explains it.  Next.

Yep, because I really can't see a reason to fix Wyoming. That would be way too much insecurity. Even for the GOP.

There is really only one state in the entire country without competitive elections whatsoever, and it isn't Wyoming, although Wyoming is somewhat close.  No good reason not to fix it either, I suppose?  It's better that than disaster the next time there is a competitive gubernatorial race (which may happen after Freudenthal retires).

Which state are you referring to? Idaho?

That would be my pick for the title of least competitive state; it's been a long time since Democrats came anywhere close to winning a Senate seat, House seat, the Governorship, or a Presidential race. The legislature is also overwhelmingly Republican. Idaho is probably overall the closest in the country to being a true one party state (other than the District of Columbia of course).

At least in Wyoming the Democrats won the governorship last time and have been reasonably competitive in the House race.


Title: Re: More than 100% of the registered voters voted in WY?
Post by: Alcon on June 05, 2006, 10:41:44 AM

That would be my guess.

There are six states - Idaho, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and Wyoming - with same-day registration.

Well, then this explains it.  Next.

Yep, because I really can't see a reason to fix Wyoming. That would be way too much insecurity. Even for the GOP.

There is really only one state in the entire country without competitive elections whatsoever, and it isn't Wyoming, although Wyoming is somewhat close.  No good reason not to fix it either, I suppose?  It's better that than disaster the next time there is a competitive gubernatorial race (which may happen after Freudenthal retires).

Which state are you referring to? Idaho?

That would be my pick for the title of least competitive state; it's been a long time since Democrats came anywhere close to winning a Senate seat, House seat, the Governorship, or a Presidential race. The legislature is also overwhelmingly Republican. Idaho is probably overall the closest in the country to being a true one party state (other than the District of Columbia of course).

At least in Wyoming the Democrats won the governorship last time and have been reasonably competitive in the House race.

Yeah, I was referring to Idaho.