Talk Elections

I would say Guliani/Allen v. Clinton/Bayh.

I like that matchup.  Seems very probable on the Dem side.  The hardest part of that happening would be Rudi getting th Republican nomination - very difficult for him to do that.  If he did however, Hillary would have no chance.  On the other hand, she has no chance in the general anyway.

Clinton WILL NOT win the nomination.  Maybe in the dreams of some liberal feminist hippie, but certainly not in reality.  I would think that the voters in the Democratic primaries wouldn't be that stupid.

Allen v. Warner
McCain v. Warner

It's impossible to say now, but if the primaries were starting tomorrow, I'd guess Allen/Huckabee v. Warner/someone good we aren't thinking about.

But of course, if you were asked who the most likely nominee for the Dems was last time around, you would've found Dean and Clark well above Kerry on most lists.

Disagree. This party has nominated 1 President in the past quarter of a century. "Smart" and "Democratic Primary Voter" are mutually exclusive terms.

Clinton has the money and her husband, who is rather popular among Democrats. She'll be able to rack up superdelegates easily and should win enough states to win the nomination. Unless Clinton manages to drastically alter her image or runs an amazing Democratic Convention, she has little chance of winning the general election, however.

She also has a failed socialist health care bill, she was one to stand up and shout over violent video games, she still arse's about in a pro-war manner, not to mention that she has been trying to keep Bill muffled for some time now. I just don't think the Democrats like her, money can't make 'bitch' go away.

She's too conservative to get the liberal feminist hippies.

Feingold vs. McCain

The Republicans, finally, reward John McCain with the Presidential nomination.  McCain wins a hard fought nomination battle with the other major contenders, George Allen, Mitt Romney, and Rudy Giuliani.

McCain picks rival George Allen for Vice President.  Allen is perceived by much of the country as Presidential material, this pick goes the furthest in uniting the party, and the choice of Allen pleases the conservative Republican base.

The Democrats opt for the only previously successful formula they have had for electing a President in a generation, choosing a southern Governor, Mark Warner.  Warner impresses Democratic primary voters, and is seen as new and refreshing.  Warner defeats the other major rivals for the nomination, Hillary Clinton, Russ Feingold, and Evan Bayh.  Clinton fades during the primary campaign season, as many voters are turned off by her shrillness.

Warner picks rival Russ Feingold for Vice President.  Feingold is charismatic and a strong campaigner, and is liberal enough to appeal to the Democratic liberal base, and to act as a balance to Warner's more moderate image.

Republican
John McCain (AZ)/George Allen (VA)

Democrat
Mark Warner (VA)/Russ Feingold (WI)  

Romney v. Gore

I honestly believe Gore is going to change his mind.

Just like he did in 2004? It just isn't going to happen, no means no...he is happy with the Global Warming thing he does and wont toss it away to lose yet another election.

I'll go out on a limb and say:

Giuliani/Romney vs. Bayh/Feingold

Edwards / Warner vs. McCain /  Allen

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I agree with this scenario. 

John McCain v. Hillary Clinton is clearly the most likely right now.

Maybe you forgot who they nominated in 2004.

I doubt anyone will remember Hillarycare (although I hope they do) in 2008. The pro-war stuff may have an impact, however, with the liberal base, who will probably side with Feingold. Money itself is extremely important in the primary phase, but less important in the general. I'm going to make a prediction here: Hillary will outfinance all other democratic candidates easily.

I sure hope Clinton doesn't win the nomination, but ultimately, I think she'll prevail. Let's hope that New Hampshirans and Iowans are smart enough to see that she doesn't though.

I agree with Boss Tweed that McCain vs. Clinton is looking likely.

Gore never said that he was going to run in 2004. It was simply assumed that he would considering how close he got to winning in 2000.

That's what I said. Everyone was so sure Gore was going to change his mind in 2004...

McCain-Graham vs. Warner-Richardson

That's a bit of an odd call. Care to explain?

Warner-Feingold v. McCain-Allen

Most likely for the Democrats: Warner/Feingold

Most likely for the Republicans: Allen/Romney

govs. Warner and Romney would make for an interesting campaign.  I think may just vote in the primaries in '08, and if I do, and they're running, I'd consider voting for those one of those two, depending on which primary I decided to vote in. 

I honestly have no clue who would win the republican nomination, but for the dems i definitely believe bayh has it, unless Gore jumps in.  i thought it was obvious he was not going to run in 04 just because rematches don't usually go well for the challenger in presidential races, but i think there is a chance in 08.  that is an election he could win. 

Guliani will never win the Republican nomination.  Every MS Republican hates his guts.  The base will never go for a pro-choice, pro-gay New Englander, and if he somehow did get the nomination, a third-party candidate would siphon off a bunch of votes, or else his base would just stay some.
In short, even Hillary would beat him easily.  Warner wins in a landslide.

This thread is very funny in hindsight.

I know right?

"Hillary will NEVAR win the general election!"

Lol. In hindsight we can see that basically any serious Democrat other then John Edwards would win in 2008.

Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin