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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => Past Election What-ifs (US) => Topic started by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 05:35:43 PM



Title: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 05:35:43 PM
...that would create this map:

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democrat: 289 EVs
republican: 242 EVs

i have two tickets in mind.  i want to see who can come the closest in guessing.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 22, 2006, 06:10:57 PM
Stevenson/Kennedy
Taft/Stassen

?


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 09:02:15 PM

nope.  none of those names are on either of the two tickets.

think outside of the box.

HINT:  what or who could turn kansas to the democrats?


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Dr. Cynic on August 22, 2006, 09:23:28 PM
Were any of them candidates during the primary season of 1952?

Second Guess:

Kefauver/Symington

Warren/Rockefeller

?


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 22, 2006, 09:30:57 PM
Walter, in 1952, any credible Republican ticket would win.

This must be a pretty poor Republican ticket you are thinking of.

I know this is wrong, but......

How about

Democrat
House Speaker Sam Rayburn of Texas for President
A young Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota for Vice President

Rayburn is highly respected, and would sweep the south.  Rayburn could  conceivably be well liked in Kansas.
Humphrey would help in Minnesota and New England

Republican
Two former unsuccessful Vice Presidential nominees
Governor Earl Warren of California for President
Senator John Bricker of Ohio for Vice President

This ticket would sweep the west and Warren's brand of Republicanism would go over well in parts of the northeast.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 09:36:35 PM
earl warren is the republican nominee for president.

so far no one has mentioned any of the other 3 candidates.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 22, 2006, 09:57:01 PM
Is the Republican Vice Presidential nominee by chance Tom Dewey, which would make a reversal of the 1948 Republican ticket? 


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 22, 2006, 10:00:03 PM
Are you by chance thinking of Dwight Eisenhower himself running as a Democrat for President in 1952?

Eisenhower grew up in Kansas.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 10:00:46 PM
Is the Republican Vice Presidential nominee by chance Tom Dewey, which would make a reversal of the 1948 Republican ticket? 

yes!  you hit the nail on the head.

now try to guess the democrat ticket.  it is a bit tricky.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 10:01:19 PM
Are you by chance thinking of Dwight Eisenhower himself running as a Democrat for President in 1952?

Eisenhower grew up in Kansas.

yeah you got it.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 22, 2006, 10:12:52 PM
OK, the Democrat VP candidate remains a mystery.

Ike didn't persuade then Congressman Hugh Scott of Pennsylvania to jump ship, did he?  I'm sure not.

How about, Harry Truman himself, knowing he could not be re-elected President in 1952, ran as Ike's VP, and stayed in public office thanks to Ike's coat tails?


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 10:17:46 PM
OK, the Democrat VP candidate remains a mystery.

Ike didn't persuade then Congressman Hugh Scott of Pennsylvania to jump ship, did he?  I'm sure not.

How about, Harry Truman himself, knowing he could not be re-elected President in 1952, ran as Ike's VP, and stayed in public office thanks to Ike's coat tails?

the democrat vp was paul douglas of illinois.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: Lincoln Republican on August 22, 2006, 10:23:17 PM
A good pick for Eisenhower, a well established and respected Democrat.

But I have read that Truman briefly toyed with the idea of persuading Eisenhower to run as the Democrat Presidential nominee in 1952, with himself, Truman, as the VP candidate.

Have you ever heard of this temporary lapse into insanity of Truman's?


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: True Democrat on August 22, 2006, 10:33:06 PM
A good pick for Eisenhower, a well established and respected Democrat.

But I have read that Truman briefly toyed with the idea of persuading Eisenhower to run as the Democrat Presidential nominee in 1952, with himself, Truman, as the VP candidate.

Have you ever heard of this temporary lapse into insanity of Truman's?

That was 1948, not 1952.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: WalterMitty on August 22, 2006, 10:33:56 PM
A good pick for Eisenhower, a well established and respected Democrat.

But I have read that Truman briefly toyed with the idea of persuading Eisenhower to run as the Democrat Presidential nominee in 1952, with himself, Truman, as the VP candidate.

Have you ever heard of this temporary lapse into insanity of Truman's?

no, ive never heard that story.

i was always under the impression that truman didnt really care for eisenhower.

ive read that truman's first choice for president in 52 was chief justice fred vinson, who refused to run.


Title: Re: 1952: name the 2 tickets....
Post by: minionofmidas on August 26, 2006, 03:31:45 PM
...and died the following year.