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Title: Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 05:50:10 PM Polls are coming in within 10 minutes. I'll be briefing you guys with the info. :)
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 05:55:27 PM I've got a live stream of the national.
Cbc tv is better than I thought. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 05:59:22 PM I don't know. I thought I'd just keep the record. If I don't need to do this... I won't.
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 06:00:34 PM Nah, that would be good.
Especially since a canadian interpretation of the results would be good for us Yanks. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:03:24 PM Can you watch CBC TV thru CBC.com?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 06:05:35 PM yeah
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/index.html its on the rightside. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:08:48 PM Not working I'm afraid. I'll stay with the radio until 930 when CSPAN pciks up the coverage.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 06:18:16 PM Reports shall be heading in soon, as of right now the LPC is leading in 4 ridings...
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 06:19:29 PM One is St. Johns South...a traditional Tory seat...probably will go blue soon.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 06:23:14 PM I can't bieve the Libs are winning in St Johns..but only by 2 votes in St. Johns South ;)
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 06:24:14 PM St Johns North is conservative :)
*world is normal again* Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 06:26:31 PM Tories back ahead in both St. John's Seats.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:26:59 PM Bill Mathews wins in Random-Burin-St.George's Riding in NFLD.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:27:40 PM Bill Mathews wins in Random-Burin-St.George's Riding in NFLD. Yep. The Dez guy got all that attention too! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:32:02 PM Rex Barnes the Liberal Candidate has won in Bonavista-Exploits. But just to reiterate these are just incumbents winning thier seats. We still got a long way to go.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 06:35:27 PM Probably will be a Liberal "pickup" though...that by-election seat. Not a surprise though.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 06:35:45 PM The Conservative, Norman Doyle has won St. John's North.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 06:38:34 PM Humber-St.Barbe-Baie Verte - LPC Gerry Byrne has won.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:38:56 PM When do Ontario polls start to close?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 06:39:57 PM 9:30 EST
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 06:41:46 PM NDP winning Central Nova, NS!
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:43:35 PM Siege-the exact time the coverage goes on here. :)
NDP winning Central Nova, NS! It's early. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 06:44:18 PM Also-SIEGE-go on AIM. I want to talk to a Canadian through this whole thing. :)
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:44:39 PM That would also be Peter Mckay's riding if IIRC.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 06:44:40 PM Siege-the exact time the coverage goes on here. :) NDP winning Central Nova, NS! It's early. I love that orange! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 06:45:44 PM Alexa won't lose. I know it's early; I was just gald :D
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:51:18 PM CPC now leading in 4 Races. They now have ability to sqaure it all up.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:51:45 PM Alexa won't lose. I know it's early; I was just gald :D Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 06:57:40 PM Lawrence O'Brien has just been declared winner in Labrador.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 07:00:06 PM The conservatives have won Central Nova.
Maybe Martin's anti-NDP has worked-but to the conservatives' advantage? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 07:00:52 PM How do these numbers compare. Any trends?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:01:31 PM FINAL Newfoundland returns
5 LPC 2 CPC Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: struct310 on June 28, 2004, 07:06:30 PM this CBC coverage seems biased and sucks
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: ilikeverin on June 28, 2004, 07:06:35 PM Who should I be rooting for? :P
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:08:25 PM this CBC coverage seems biased and sucks Um... no. Just because the LPC is winning doesn't mean they're biased. Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: struct310 on June 28, 2004, 07:09:27 PM this CBC coverage seems biased and sucks Um... no. Just because the LPC is winning doesn't mean they're biased. Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 07:16:18 PM cbc sounds a whole lot like npr.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:19:30 PM Ya, since 2 Conservatives have complained about it favouring the Liberals, I'm going to take your observations with a grain of salt. Can you give any specific examples, maybe later... election.
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 07:20:50 PM Shrug. I don't think its that biased yet.
It does have a center left slant, but thats because America is a tad to the right. We'll see when the former-Alliance regions come up. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:21:19 PM FINAL PEI RESULTS
4 Liberals! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 07:23:05 PM when you click on location for cbc, does it matter what location you choose?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 07:27:56 PM When does Quebec close its polls?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:28:08 PM Just go to www.cbc.ca/canadavotes
All I can think of is that its to show local returns? Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 07:29:00 PM when you click on location for cbc, does it matter what location you choose? You get slammed with local crap the further west you go. I chose Toronto. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 07:32:27 PM i chose ottawa, and they can barely contain their glee with the liberal's strong showing.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:33:25 PM Don't forget Broadbent. NDP - Ottawa
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 07:42:53 PM what is the possible 'surprise' in montreal that al was refering to in another thread? paul martin losing his seat?
or was this one of al's 'kerry is going to win tennessee' ideas? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 07:44:00 PM I doubt it will be Martin. The liberals have a highly concentrated vote in a minority of Quebec Seats.
Perhaps one of the other liberals bites the dust? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: TommyC1776 on June 28, 2004, 07:51:51 PM Is this election an election for Canadian congress or Prime Minister?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 07:52:21 PM Actually both.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 07:52:35 PM the parliament selects the pm
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 07:54:06 PM the parliament selects the pm Thought the Governor-General selects the PM--usually the leader of the majority party...does it actually have to go to an yea/nay vote? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:55:30 PM Is this election an election for Canadian congress or Prime Minister? Congress?!?!? Parliament my friend. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 07:55:34 PM :rolls eyes:
I love canadian accents; especially BC and Nova Scotia. I was in the final 3 for a scholarship to go on a student exchange to Canada; 10 months in Quebec and 2 months in Nova Scotia. Shame I missed the scholarship, it would have been nice. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 07:56:53 PM Numbers are begining to trickle out of Quebec. If the Bloc can freeze out the Liberals, the Conservatives have a chance in Ontario.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 07:58:35 PM the guy is the alley is cool...
"Stanley cup for nerds" :D "It's very important the lesser of three evils wins" :D Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 07:58:40 PM Is anyone else listening to this "My Canada" commercial? Hilarious!
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 07:58:41 PM FINAL RESULTS
Nova Scotia Liberal - 6 Conservative - 3 NDP - 2 New Brunswick Liberal - 7 Conservative - 2 NDP - 1 Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 08:00:43 PM yeah i heard the 'my canada' commercial.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 08:01:12 PM Numbers are begining to trickle out of Quebec. If the Bloc can freeze out the Liberals, the Conservatives have a chance in Ontario. Libs should grab 20-25 seats in Quebec. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 08:02:14 PM Raynald Blais has defeated the Liberal Incumbent in the Quebec riding of Gaspésie-Iles-de-la-Madeleine.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: TommyC1776 on June 28, 2004, 08:02:39 PM Do the people vote for parliament and then parliment votes for a PM?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 08:03:38 PM yeah i heard the 'my canada' commercial. Wasn't it great? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 08:04:52 PM guy on the radio says the libs could ecilipse 64 seats in ontario, if things continue to go bad for the conservatives
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 08:05:50 PM guy on the radio says the libs could ecilipse 64 seats in ontario, if things continue to go bad for the conservatives ElectionPrediction has them getting 65. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: MarkDel on June 28, 2004, 08:07:13 PM So the Liberals are winning again in Canada? That's a damn shame. I grew up in Upstate New York and used to love visiting that country. But since Chretien became Prime Minister (now Martin) and they turned into a bastion of anti-US sentiment, I have engaged in a total boycott and have not been back since. If and when the Conservatives ever win power again, maybe I'll return, but I doubt it.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 08:08:25 PM do they do exit polls in canada?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 08:09:55 PM Maritime Canada is not indicitve of the rest of Canada. (Dammit)
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 08:13:23 PM 15 minutes until the real show begins.
hehe. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 08:14:36 PM 15 minutes until the real show begins. Yep. And CSPAN'S coverage starts. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 08:15:21 PM Indeed. It will be interesting how well the Bloc does now that they have gained a seat in Gasepie.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WalterMitty on June 28, 2004, 08:16:16 PM is cspan covering it, or are they going to show cbc coverage?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 28, 2004, 08:18:32 PM They will probobly air it off the CBC feed.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 08:18:34 PM This is going to be a BITCH for me to record, I'm keeping track of everything for my own benefit and for the Forum later.
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 08:36:41 PM 4 libs and an ndp-er in so far from the 'big swathe'
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 08:41:03 PM NDP equal with the Cons :D
Lbs 10, NDP 4so far in the swathe Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 08:46:17 PM LOL Marxist-Leninist lead in Mississaugu East - Cooksville!
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:01:02 PM The Liberals pretty muh only need another 15-20 seats to win minority. But they are early, of course
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:13:06 PM Current results:
LIB: 33 CON: 19 BQ: 5 NDP: 5 OTH: 0 LIB: 42.00% CON: 29.81% BQ: 3.07% NDP: 21.18% OTH: 3.94% Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:21:31 PM I am prepared to call the elction for the Libs, in a just minority government of about 140-145. With the NDP; you've got a government, Canada :)
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:21:55 PM Tony Clement is losing in his riding!
LIB 62 CON 38 BQ 33 NDP 10 OTH 0 LIB 40.28% CON 29.63% BQ 6.49% NDP 19.14% OTH 4.45% Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 09:22:23 PM I am prepared to call the elction for the Libs, in a just minority government of about 140-145. With the NDP; you've got a government, Canada :) DON'T JINX IT! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 09:22:57 PM Tony Clement is losing in his riding! LIB 62 CON 38 BQ 33 NDP 10 OTH 0 LIB 40.28% CON 29.63% BQ 6.49% NDP 19.14% OTH 4.45% That's my riding! Brampton West is for the left buddy! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:24:19 PM I called it 3 minutes before CBC :)
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 09:24:53 PM Well done.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:26:40 PM Well, it will only be 'well done' if I'm right about a LIB/NDP coalition. It wasn't hard to see the Libs would win a minority.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:29:15 PM Now I'm sorry I voted Liberal. I won't have any right to complain when this government screws up!
LIB 88 CON 52 BQ 42 NDP 12 Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 09:32:16 PM I was afraid when Paul Martin was behind :)
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:33:17 PM we're 7 ridings off a Lib/NDP government folks...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:34:09 PM My candidate won!
Mark Holland LIB 47.72% René Soetens CON 33.99% Kevin Modeste NDP 13.34% Karen MacDonald GRN 4.96% Nationwide: LIB 102 CON 62 BQ 47 NDP 14 Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:35:37 PM 4 ridings folks...
and I think the BQ would have to support the LIBs anyway; otherwise there'd be a national outcry. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:36:31 PM 2 ridings...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:37:12 PM 1 riding...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:37:48 PM Back to 3 ridings...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:38:58 PM The Conservatives did terrible in Ontario. I am very surprised that this election wasn't closer
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:39:41 PM 1 riding...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 09:40:06 PM 155 fior LIB/NDP!
YAY! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:41:46 PM LIB 110
CON 63 BQ 49 NDP 14 Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:43:30 PM The Conservatives are coming on strong in B.C. Maybe they can salvage something there.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: TommyC1776 on June 28, 2004, 09:47:01 PM I've been watching some of the election coverage and someone was saying MP. What's an MP?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:49:02 PM I've been watching some of the election coverage and someone was saying MP. What's an MP? Member of Parliament Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 09:56:51 PM TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!!
DAMN IT! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 28, 2004, 09:58:33 PM TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!! DAMN IT! YAY! Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 10:00:19 PM TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!! DAMN IT! YAY! Why are you yaying? The Conservatives are losing all of thier moderate MPs! PC is vanishing before our eyes. All that will be left are those hicks from Alberta. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on June 28, 2004, 10:02:17 PM Because people like him are not on our side.
I wonder if you still think the merger was a good idea :P Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 28, 2004, 10:03:39 PM How long do you think the minority government will last?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 10:07:05 PM Because people like him are not on our side. I wonder if you still think the merger was a good idea :P It was a terrible idea! All the remnants of our party is gone. I had to vote Liberal, which makes me very mad! I just couldn't vote for Harper's party. I feel better about it because I voted against a Dutch guy Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 10:07:09 PM There will be an election befroe the end of 2005, I'd say.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 10:08:07 PM How long do you think the minority government will last? A year or two, longer than was expected. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 10:09:24 PM If it was a minority govt held up by the BQ, it'd be tomorrow ;)
I think the NDP can work with the Libs for a year or so. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Beaver on June 28, 2004, 10:11:18 PM If it was a minority govt held up by the BQ, it'd be tomorrow ;) I think the NDP can work with the Libs for a year or so. I personally don't think the NDP and the Liberals will go together. We will find out soon enough though. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: The Duke on June 28, 2004, 10:16:56 PM Well, it looks like the Liberals will win then. I'd say the key was that voters didn't care much about the sponsorship scandal, and were more concerned about how Mr. Harper was too conservative on Charter issues. Wait, what the hell am I talking about?
Oh well, forget Canada. It is a silly place. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 28, 2004, 10:17:11 PM The NDP and Libs will work together for at least 3 years, unless the Liberals are very confident that they'll win a Majority. My predicition is this minority government will last 2-3 years.
Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on June 28, 2004, 10:32:27 PM If Jack Layton uses the word "Energy" one more time...... sheesh....
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on June 28, 2004, 10:39:35 PM And now he's switching from language to language... even though the NDP got like 5 votes in Quebec...
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 10:39:37 PM and 'change' :D
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: WMS on June 28, 2004, 10:40:45 PM TONY CLEMENT WAS DEFEATED!!! DAMN IT! YAY! Why are you yaying? The Conservatives are losing all of thier moderate MPs! PC is vanishing before our eyes. All that will be left are those hicks from Alberta. That is probably how the moderate Democrats in the U.S. felt in 1994 when the Republicans wiped out most of the Dem moderates, especially in the South, and left the party dominated by And on a Modified note: how will the presence of the anti-American leftist NDP in the government affect U.S.-Canadian relations? I predict things will get even chillier... Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on June 28, 2004, 10:43:10 PM *screams* Come on Belinda, you can do it! Pull through!
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: MarkDel on June 28, 2004, 11:06:05 PM Well, it looks like the Liberals will win then. I'd say the key was that voters didn't care much about the sponsorship scandal, and were more concerned about how Mr. Harper was too conservative on Charter issues. Wait, what the hell am I talking about? Oh well, forget Canada. It is a silly place. John Ford, It IS a silly place, but it wasn't always like that. In the 1970's and 1980's this was a wonderful country to visit. It's such a shame what it has become. They have gone from being America's little brother to being Europe's retarded cousin all over the course of two generations...so sad. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: The Duke on June 28, 2004, 11:09:23 PM They have gone from being America's little brother to being Europe's retarded cousin all over the course of two generations LOL. Then, cry out loud. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on June 28, 2004, 11:17:57 PM And now he's switching from language to language... even though the NDP got like 5 votes in Quebec... Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Platypus on June 28, 2004, 11:23:03 PM Notice Harper's 'fairy claps' for Martin? :)
and the booing. I've never heard Canadians boo before :shocked: Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 12:00:03 AM Noticed the Liberal-NDP combined number now sits at 155...
If I were Harper...I'd continue in a semi-campaign mode...keep the lines open to the BQ and see if they can eventually (at a good time for both) force a new election. Especially if the supposed coalition number falls behind the post. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 12:31:22 AM Barring any reversals on recount, 155+ for the LPC/NDP combination looks firm. The CBC website shows 154 firm ridingsright now and at least one of the others, Western Arctcic is a firm tossup between the LPC and the NDP. Still this is a parliament that could be brought down by a by-election or two even if the LPC and NDP don't want it. All it takes is one important bill (Clark learned that in 1979). The Liberals are a centrist party for Canada. Harper should continue to tour the country in quasi campaign mode...wait for something like a budget or regional devolution bill to come up...and try to siphon off some of the more conservative liberals...just enough to convince Martin he needs to hold another election. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 29, 2004, 12:38:21 AM Barring any reversals on recount, 155+ for the LPC/NDP combination looks firm. The CBC website shows 154 firm ridingsright now and at least one of the others, Western Arctcic is a firm tossup between the LPC and the NDP. Still this is a parliament that could be brought down by a by-election or two even if the LPC and NDP don't want it. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 12:44:59 AM And now for the bad news. The CPC has swept Saskatchewan as a result of the Child Porn slur. Proctor and Nystrom lost by a handful of votes each.
They go down as heros. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 12:46:10 AM Jean Crowder's won Nanaimo-Cowichan!!! The Dippers are back on the Island!! :D
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 12:53:06 AM Barring any reversals on recount, 155+ for the LPC/NDP combination looks firm. The CBC website shows 154 firm ridingsright now and at least one of the others, Western Arctcic is a firm tossup between the LPC and the NDP. Still this is a parliament that could be brought down by a by-election or two even if the LPC and NDP don't want it. Does the speaker need to be a sitting member of the house though? In the US house, techicnally he does not...remember something about this when dingell gave up his seat. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 29, 2004, 12:53:55 AM I think the Speaker of the House is the senior member of the Party in power.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 29, 2004, 12:55:32 AM Don't forget that the Conservatives and the other parties might wear down the liberals already tenuous hold on the Commons if they can win any By-elections that might result between now and the next election.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 12:55:40 AM Nathen Cullen has taken Skeena-Bulkley Valley! Yeeesssssss!!!!!!!!!
There's a really, really tight race in Vancouver Island North: incumbent CPC MP John Duncan (who had been expected to walk re-election) is leading by just 26 votes with 4 polls to come in. And in New Westminster-Coquitlam where a Dipper challenger leads the CPC incumbent by 75 votes with a few polls left to close Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 12:57:46 AM Would have liked to have seen the PC proportion of elected CPC members be larger.
Oh well. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 01:01:19 AM And technically as long as he reaches 155, it doesn't matter
308/2=154 Since 155 is 50% +1 seat The Opposition tops out at 153 so the speaker doesn't vote. Straight coalition line votes... 154-153, 1 present. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 29, 2004, 01:05:08 AM But things could change if the Sponsorship Scandal actually implicates Paul Martin. If it does, All bets are off as the Conservatives and the Bloc would introduce a motion of no confidence. Such a measure would make Jack Layton think twice about supporting Martin.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 01:25:42 AM As a general point I still think that the Dippers should have picked Blaikie as leader.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 01:32:06 AM Duncan's won. The CPC lead in the other undecided seat.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 01:41:40 AM LIB 135 0 135 36.71%
CON 99 0 99 29.61% BQ 54 0 54 12.41% NDP 19 0 19 15.68% NA 1 0 1 .13% OTH 0 0 0 5.46% Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 01:54:11 AM rut row...154...
and that NA might be a CPCer if his consitutents want him to be one. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 02:01:05 AM Quote Popular vote numbers tell the tale Last Updated Tue, 29 Jun 2004 02:44:58 EDT TORONTO - Predictions that voters would desert the Liberals in droves over the sponsorship scandal were proven wrong on election night, judging by the popular vote numbers. Though Paul Martin's party lost 41 seats compared to its showing in the 2000 election, picking up 135 seats this time, voter support dropped by only four percentage points. About 37 per cent of Canadians who voted today cast ballots for the Liberals, compared to almost 41 per cent four years ago. By comparison, the united-right Conservatives won the support of about 30 per cent of voters, compared to the 37.8 per cent who voted for either the Alliance or the Progressive Conservatives in 2000. That's down eight percentage points, though the party earned 99 seats. The New Democratic Party was the big winner of the night in terms of popular vote. Its number rose seven percentage points, to more than 15 per cent in 2004, as it took 19 seats. The Bloc Québécois gained 22 seats for a total of 54 as its support rose by 2 percentage points. The Green Party of Canada pulled down 3.5 per cent of the popular vote, attracting the votes of more than half a million Canadians, making it eligible for annual funding from the federal government. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 02:08:58 AM ()
Ed's baaaaaaaaack! :) Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 02:24:18 AM The following cabinet ministers lost their seats:
Stan Keyes Hélène Chalifour Scherrer Gar Knutson David Pratt Rey D. Pagtakhan Bob Speller Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: ilikeverin on June 29, 2004, 08:04:08 AM Should I be happy?
I think I should be happy. So here's a smiley face: :) Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Siege40 on June 29, 2004, 08:30:55 AM The Liberals may be Center-Left but they also want to govern, they'll work with the NDP.
And Canada has only gotten better since the 1970s. Outside of those dark days of Mulrooney. Besides, I'm Canadian, I think I'd know, and so would my family if things had become terrible. Siege Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 29, 2004, 09:46:56 AM ()
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 10:01:43 AM Great cartoon ;D Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 29, 2004, 10:12:12 AM Did Belinda Stronach win?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 10:13:51 AM Did Belinda Stronach win? Yes. By 702 votes. In a race she was expected by the media to walk. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: © tweed on June 29, 2004, 10:14:47 AM Yes. By 702 votes. In a race she was expected by the media to walk. Even odds she's the conservative leader in the next federal election? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 10:16:50 AM Yes. By 702 votes. In a race she was expected by the media to walk. Even odds she's the conservative leader in the next federal election? Depends when it's called... if Martin calls another one soon and wins a majority it'll be bye-bye Harper. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: TommyC1776 on June 29, 2004, 10:32:06 AM Is Paul Martin the new Prime Minister? By the way what does MP stand for?
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 10:42:04 AM Is Paul Martin the new Prime Minister? By the way what does MP stand for? Martin was PM before the election. He's just been re-elected. M.P stands for Member of Parliament. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: W in 2004 on June 29, 2004, 10:43:33 AM Current results: LIB: 33 CON: 19 BQ: 5 NDP: 5 OTH: 0 LIB: 42.00% CON: 29.81% BQ: 3.07% NDP: 21.18% OTH: 3.94% I never noticed it before, but the province of Ontario looks remarkably like a fish jumping out of the water. Hmm, maybe there is a hidden meaning in it. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 10:55:33 AM Interesting trend for you all to ponder: the Dippers did well out in the boondacks... even in ridings they were not targeting.
Take a look at these examples: In Madawaska-Restigouche, NB the NDP came second with 27.5% of the vote In Prince George-Peace River, BC they came second with 20% of the vote These are the sort of ridings that it was assumed that "Jack wouldn't play well" and neither were targeted at all. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Justin on June 29, 2004, 10:59:00 AM NDP/Liberal= 153 ( 154-1 seat for the Speaker)
Bloc/Conservative Opposistion 154 (153+1 Right of Center Independent) Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 11:01:59 AM NDP/Liberal= 153 ( 154-1 seat for the Speaker) Bloc/Conservative Opposistion 154 (153+1 Right of Center Independent) The BQ and the CPC are unlikely to co-operate in Opposition. It's not in either parties interest to do so. It's odd to see that the leader under the most pressure now is Harper... who'd of though that 2 weeks ago? Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: bullmoose88 on June 29, 2004, 12:27:55 PM NDP/Liberal= 153 ( 154-1 seat for the Speaker) Bloc/Conservative Opposistion 154 (153+1 Right of Center Independent) The BQ and the CPC are unlikely to co-operate in Opposition. It's not in either parties interest to do so. It's odd to see that the leader under the most pressure now is Harper... who'd of though that 2 weeks ago? But it is in their combined interest to give the government all the headaches they can. If the liberals try throwing a bill at the commons that deals with provincial powers or some budget that throws too much money Ontario's way...and they could be in for some trouble. Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 04:04:41 PM NDP/Liberal= 153 ( 154-1 seat for the Speaker) Bloc/Conservative Opposistion 154 (153+1 Right of Center Independent) The BQ and the CPC are unlikely to co-operate in Opposition. It's not in either parties interest to do so. It's odd to see that the leader under the most pressure now is Harper... who'd of though that 2 weeks ago? But it is in their combined interest to give the government all the headaches they can. If the liberals try throwing a bill at the commons that deals with provincial powers or some budget that throws too much money Ontario's way...and they could be in for some trouble. Yes and no. The last thing that Duceppe wants is to be linked with the CPC Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Trilobyte on June 29, 2004, 04:11:04 PM If the Liberals appoint a Tory as Speaker, then the Liberal-NDPs will hold a majority of the seats in Parliament.
Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on June 29, 2004, 04:21:33 PM If the Liberals appoint a Tory as Speaker, then the Liberal-NDPs will hold a majority of the seats in Parliament. Or a BQ MP ;D Title: Re:Canadian Election Results Post by: minionofmidas on June 30, 2004, 05:57:18 AM Would that work?
The Atlantic results look like a rerun of 2001...Didn't play out quite like that elsewhere... What an admirably balanced result, though... Glory Now, Dippers All! |