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Title: Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 16, 2004, 09:06:45 pm
It's been classified as one and as not one.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: PBrunsel on July 16, 2004, 09:34:11 pm
Yes, it was given a star on the Confederate Flag by the CSA Government.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: 2,868,691 on July 16, 2004, 09:35:47 pm
nah. definitely not.
In fact, at a national academic team tournament in DC about a month ago, we were playing a team from Maryland and the moderator said "It's a matchup of two southern teams!"  We just laughed and said no.

On a side note, one of our alternates said the Maryland team was laughing before the game saying they could easily beat a Mississippi team.  But we were up 100-10 after the 1st quarter, and coasted to an easy victory, which made us 4-0.  It was so great :)


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: MHS2002 on July 16, 2004, 09:53:38 pm
Maryland is not a southern state. It should be grouped more with NJ, DE, etc. IMHO.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: tweed on July 16, 2004, 09:57:41 pm
No


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 16, 2004, 09:57:56 pm
Depends on what part.  Southeast of DC and the Eastern Shore, most definitely yes.  It's main population centers.. no.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 16, 2004, 10:03:34 pm
its is a southern state, or use to be. Now it is to liberal to be a southern state.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: True Federalist on July 16, 2004, 10:09:08 pm
Yes, it was given a star on the Confederate Flag by the CSA Government.
Wrong.  While there were Maryland Regiments in the CSArmy, Maryland got no star.  Besides the 11 states that succeeded in seceding (temporarily that is) the other two stars were for Kentucky and Missouri which Richmod claimed had seceeded as well.  Had the Confederacy been able to win a quick war, say by taking Washington, DC.  Maryland would have had a hard choice and may well have joined its fellow slave states in the CSA.  Another possibility would be for the state to be split as would have certainly have happened with Virginia and might have happened with Missouri.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: nclib on July 16, 2004, 10:40:03 pm
No--the majority of Marylanders live in the WDC-Balt. corridor, which is much more similar culturally and politically to the Northeast than the South.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: AuH2O on July 16, 2004, 10:44:12 pm
Well, Missouri and Kentucky did secede, but that's another issue.

Maryland did use to be quite Southern; it was a slave state back in the day. The citizens of Baltimore attacked the Union army as it marched South to DC in the opening weeks of the War.

But now it's like a crappy mix of NJ and Delaware.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: dazzleman on July 16, 2004, 11:15:08 pm
I guess it was a southern state at one time.  There was a big pro-segregation protest in Baltimore in 1954 as a result of the Brown vs. Board of Education decision.

But now it is too liberal to be a southern state.  It is really a mid-Atlantic state, like New Jersey and Delaware.

The differences between Maryland and Northern Virginia are striking, even though they are adjacent to each other.  Montgomery County, Maryland has the Rosa Parks Elementary School, while Fairfax County, Virginia has the Rebel Run and the Robery E. Lee Pike.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 01:14:58 am
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 01:32:00 am
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

I see at doctor at Johns Hopkins.  Some of the people have an accent similar to that of Philly, some are a Southern.  Very weird mix.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 02:27:18 am
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

I see at doctor at Johns Hopkins.  Some of the people have an accent similar to that of Philly, some are a Southern.  Very weird mix.

Some of the most pivotal political events in US History occured in Baltimore. The 1860 Convention. And the Convention where the Methodists split between Southern Methodists and all the rest. Their are a ton more examples.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 17, 2004, 09:20:26 am
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

Only 7 out of 24 counties went for Gore, but Gore won by 16% here. But since most people live in the Balt-DC corridor, the Democats almost always win. There are a lot from the Bronx, maybe that's why there seem to be more Yankee fans than Oriole fans.

I don't know if this has any relevance, but Maryland is in the ACC, made up mostly of Carolina schools, and not the Big East, which is made up mostly of NorthEast schools.  


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 11:48:56 am
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

Only 7 out of 24 counties went for Gore, but Gore won by 16% here. But since most people live in the Balt-DC corridor, the Democats almost always win. There are a lot from the Bronx, maybe that's why there seem to be more Yankee fans than Oriole fans.

I don't know if this has any relevance, but Maryland is in the ACC, made up mostly of Carolina schools, and not the Big East, which is made up mostly of NorthEast schools.  

In college footbal Maryland is considered a "southern" football school. They play like one too...you know...they're ..good .... ;) :) I would put any southern school up against any northern school anyday and bet all my money on the southern school to win the game. We take our football seriously here.

On the subject of the stars. Their is still great debate among historians as to whether the flag represents MD and KY or KY and MO. Mostly in the west it was considered MO and KY and in the eastern theatre it was considered MD and KY.  Historians still debate it..but I call the issue...tossup..you decide. Of course I believe one star does represent MD...but I have home state bias. ;)


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on July 17, 2004, 11:53:04 am
In case of doubt in classification, stick to the authorities...so, I usually treat as MD, DE, KY and OK as Southern, MO as Midwestern. But of course real life doesn't always fall into neat categories, and it's about as Northeastern as it's Southern.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 17, 2004, 01:17:23 pm
In case of doubt in classification, stick to the authorities...so, I usually treat as MD, DE, KY and OK as Southern, MO as Midwestern. But of course real life doesn't always fall into neat categories, and it's about as Northeastern as it's Southern.

MD and DE fit politcally better in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic than in the South. The Patomac is the Southern boundry, not the Mason-Dixon line.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Nation on July 17, 2004, 02:20:53 pm
South of Mason-Dixon, and plenty of awesome southern history (not the same, as, oh, say, mississippi, we're much better). No offense Harry. MD's a fine state. The Eastern Shore at least.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Nym90 on July 17, 2004, 02:22:23 pm
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

Only 7 out of 24 counties went for Gore, but Gore won by 16% here. But since most people live in the Balt-DC corridor, the Democats almost always win. There are a lot from the Bronx, maybe that's why there seem to be more Yankee fans than Oriole fans.

I don't know if this has any relevance, but Maryland is in the ACC, made up mostly of Carolina schools, and not the Big East, which is made up mostly of NorthEast schools.  

In college footbal Maryland is considered a "southern" football school. They play like one too...you know...they're ..good .... ;) :) I would put any southern school up against any northern school anyday and bet all my money on the southern school to win the game. We take our football seriously here.

On the subject of the stars. Their is still great debate among historians as to whether the flag represents MD and KY or KY and MO. Mostly in the west it was considered MO and KY and in the eastern theatre it was considered MD and KY.  Historians still debate it..but I call the issue...tossup..you decide. Of course I believe one star does represent MD...but I have home state bias. ;)

Hey, we take our football seriously here, too! :) The Big Ten inspires quite a bit of passion.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 17, 2004, 02:39:14 pm
Maryland is a southern state. We are really a mix. Marylanders are weird. Some of us you run into have a southern accent like we grew up in Alabama. Others sound like they grew up in the Bronx.

Only 7 out of 24 counties went for Gore, but Gore won by 16% here. But since most people live in the Balt-DC corridor, the Democats almost always win. There are a lot from the Bronx, maybe that's why there seem to be more Yankee fans than Oriole fans.

I don't know if this has any relevance, but Maryland is in the ACC, made up mostly of Carolina schools, and not the Big East, which is made up mostly of NorthEast schools.  

In college footbal Maryland is considered a "southern" football school. They play like one too...you know...they're ..good .... ;) :) I would put any southern school up against any northern school anyday and bet all my money on the southern school to win the game. We take our football seriously here.

On the subject of the stars. Their is still great debate among historians as to whether the flag represents MD and KY or KY and MO. Mostly in the west it was considered MO and KY and in the eastern theatre it was considered MD and KY.  Historians still debate it..but I call the issue...tossup..you decide. Of course I believe one star does represent MD...but I have home state bias. ;)

Hey, we take our football seriously here, too! :) The Big Ten inspires quite a bit of passion.

Yes, although not quite like the people in Alabama, South Carolina, and Mississippi do. In the Big Ten, in almost all cases except Iowa, there is a major in-state pro sports team. Not so in much of the SEC.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 03:19:12 pm
South of Mason-Dixon, and plenty of awesome southern history (not the same, as, oh, say, mississippi, we're much better). No offense Harry. MD's a fine state. The Eastern Shore at least.

Oh I wouldn't go that far. Maryland shares the same shame as Mississippi in many regards. MD was the last state to desegregate. (Not referring to the schools)


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 04:49:52 pm
Funny the Philly area is worthless for college football.  Our only good schools are in I-AA and they are Lehigh and Villanova.  Our lone I-A school is Penn State and they blow.  A lof of people are Notre Dame fans.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 04:54:05 pm
Funny the Philly area is worthless for college football.  Our only good schools are in I-AA and they are Lehigh and Villanova.  Our lone I-A school is Penn State and they blow.  A lof of people are Notre Dame fans.

I can not name one school north of the Mason Dixon line that is worth a flip with the exception of Pittsburgh. Rutgers and Temple! Two teams to be proud of!


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 04:56:16 pm
I forgot about Pitt.  Not one I care about of course.  i'm surprised were in the same state :P!  I hope they can afford Mark Recchi!  


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 05:48:15 pm
Temple blows even more.  They belong in I-AA with Villanova who btw they still ost to 23-20 last year.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 05:52:23 pm
Penn State is in the wrong conference. They are totally being dominated there. They need to be in the Big lEast. The Big lEast is rebuilding now that they lost Miami and VT.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 05:55:55 pm
PA is not a college football state and most of the Northeast corridor isn't either.  Most of us look to the midwest or South for teams we like.  You're rigth Penn State has to boot JoePa and move to the Big East and Temple (my alma mater) needs to drop to I-AA with Villanova.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on July 17, 2004, 05:59:25 pm
Well, like I said, we are not a college football state.  In fact the Philly metro area is a college basketball area.  Our Big 5 schools (Temple, St.Joe's, LaSalle, U of Penn, and Villanova) are nationally recognized.  My brother went ot St. Joe's and graduated in 2003 (guess the keynote speaker?).


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 06:11:02 pm
Guess what guys..you know what the ACC stands for?







All Criminal Conference......... :D


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 17, 2004, 07:52:26 pm
Penn State is in the wrong conference. They are totally being dominated there. They need to be in the Big lEast. The Big lEast is rebuilding now that they lost Miami and VT.

The Big LEAST is TOAST! Penn State would be foolish to jump to a LOSER!

In football, they are toast. In basketball, look out.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 17, 2004, 08:05:35 pm
Penn State is in the wrong conference. They are totally being dominated there. They need to be in the Big lEast. The Big lEast is rebuilding now that they lost Miami and VT.

The Big LEAST is TOAST! Penn State would be foolish to jump to a LOSER!

In football, they are toast. In basketball, look out.


I hope my Hokies beat your Terps this year! Terps are going down!!!! ;)


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Akno21 on July 17, 2004, 08:23:43 pm
Penn State is in the wrong conference. They are totally being dominated there. They need to be in the Big lEast. The Big lEast is rebuilding now that they lost Miami and VT.

The Big LEAST is TOAST! Penn State would be foolish to jump to a LOSER!

In football, they are toast. In basketball, look out.


I hope my Hokies beat your Terps this year! Terps are going down!!!! ;)

Just wait until basketball season.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: classical liberal on July 18, 2004, 12:51:13 am
Terps will beat the Hokies.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 18, 2004, 06:28:06 am
Terps will beat the Hokies.

In basketball yes. Football no. :)


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: muon2 on July 18, 2004, 06:10:46 pm
Depends on what part.  Southeast of DC and the Eastern Shore, most definitely yes.  It's main population centers.. no.

I'd add a third piece of the puzzle. The western panhandle is much more like northern WV and southwest PA.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: Nation on July 19, 2004, 12:42:50 am
Depends on what part.  Southeast of DC and the Eastern Shore, most definitely yes.  It's main population centers.. no.

I'd add a third piece of the puzzle. The western panhandle is much more like northern WV and southwest PA.

Definitely -- western Maryland is actually very nice, especially Washington County -- some nice lakes/hiking trails up there.


Title: Re:Maryland- What Reigon?
Post by: ?????????? on July 19, 2004, 09:12:22 am
Depends on what part.  Southeast of DC and the Eastern Shore, most definitely yes.  It's main population centers.. no.

I'd add a third piece of the puzzle. The western panhandle is much more like northern WV and southwest PA.

Definitely -- western Maryland is actually very nice, especially Washington County -- some nice lakes/hiking trails up there.

Ever been to Accident?