Talk Elections

This is a thread for everyone's prediction map on what would have happened if McCain was the republican nominee in 2000.  Here's mine:

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McCain 456 to Gore 82

I wouldn't go so far as to suggest a landslide, but you're right, McCain would have won easily. Here's how I think it would have played out:

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McCain 347 Gore 191

Why would McCain lose NJ but win PA, WI, and MI?

Mike---you used the old EV totals.

You mean the NEW EV totals, right? :)

I agree with Mike that it wouldn't have been as bad as you make it, but I agree with you that PA, MN and WI would definitely have gone for McCain.

Meh. ;)

Yes, but my map looks nicer. So ner. ;)

Nicer b/c of more red states, or what? ;)

Miami, Who would you have voted for?

Have you seen his quote?

McCain, unless he appointed a right-wing horror to the VP slot.

Well I was asking between Gore and McCain. I wasn't sure if he was a Gore fan or not.

I am a gore fan, I guess.  But I like McCain better :)

Who do you think would have been his VP nominee? I'd say Lamar Alexander or Elizabeth Dole.

<<Who do you think would have been his VP nominee?>>

Orrin Hatch, I guess.

McCain may have lost... his temper that is.  If he had flashed his temper during the election, it may have had a Dean Effect and resulted in a loss.

About your sig...


... the sheer prospect frightens and mortifies me to scales which are beyond human comprehension. ;)

My first reaction was, "He still exists?" That alone should assuage your fears.

Quayle is a nice guy... but John Kasich is the man!

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Why do all the conservatives at the board adore Kasich so much??  I don't understand.

A massacre. A bloodbath.  McCain-(Fred) Thompson, maybe?  I'm still pining for a Bush-McCain ticket this year.  I believe in miracles!

Probably someone either southern or Midwest-- Alexander, Fred Thompson (not Dole, IMO).  Maybe Engler or Ridge. Even worse for Gore--> McCain-Powell!  Man, a McCain nomination would have been freakin' awesome.

The thing is that McCain came off as fiesty and also could get a pass for it because of his Vietnam history.  

Quayle 2008... Starts with Q -- just like courage!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!  I like Kasich.  :)

McCain wouldn't run under Bush.

I couldn't add my prediction map (I don't know why) but here is my prediction. Gore would have won only in MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, MD, DC, IL and HI.

Why do you put Delaware before Maryland? I have understood that it is more conservative than Maryland with its Republican representative of House.

Miami. You are left liberal. How you can favour McCain?

I like McCain, he is a moderate and a straight-talker.

You go the Electoral College calculator Deluxe, copy that map and insert it with () after the adress.

I don't agree with everything he does, but I don't agree with everything Bush does, either.  I'd guess that McCain could win the presidency if it was a vote by Atlas Forum citizens.

I went to McCain's Senate office last September when I was in DC. He has a huge wall covered in photos of his family. I thought that was nice.

Bush v McCain was a Republican primary, McCain v Gore would be a general election.

That, and it's not quite the same electorate... ;)

No probably not, since McCain is much more moderate than Bush was.

no, McCain was the better candidate as he was more moderate, so Gore would have lost.

You don't deserve the right to post you bottom-feeding troll.

You are a troll.  you know you are a troll.  So, I am saying you don't deserve the right to post.

Well, I'm sure that you know what a troll is, but I'll tell you anyway.

A troll is a poster at a forum whose lone purpose is either to:

a. stir up strouble
b. be funny
c. pretend to be a member of the other political party, in order to make a satire of the other party.

You fit into category b, and maybe a little bit of c.  You may be a conservative making fun of the Deanies.  But your incessant posting on the subject of Howard Dean leads me (and everybody else) to believe that you are a troll.  

No, you said "Gore wouldn't be the popular winner" and I responded "No, probably not".

Mr. President,

On your first day here, you posted 55 times or so, the mark of a troll.

The strange thing is that he started out as a clear troll, but has become much less trolly since he got an avatar. Maybe it's Dr. Jekyll-Mr. Hyde thing... :)

He's just become a smarter troll.

Mr. President,

would you like to register at my forum?  Here's the link:

http://rainman2242.proboards25.com

We need members, see you there.

Are you feeling bad for not having a forum troll? :)

It isn't a message board without a troll.

You're feeding the troll. Starve the troll!

He's not even funny like John.

I know, he just annoyed us from the start with his "Dean for America' rants.

Let's not have favouritism! All trolls deserve some recognition for their work! :)

We'll erect a Troll Hall of Fame, eh? Make them charter members.

Exactly, great idea! :)

I don't dislike you because you like dean, I dislike you because you are a joke and you spray your crap all over the board.  

I done with you.

Is mr_president Democrat/Republican? He responds to pressure in much the same way...

He may be...his insults remind me of D/R.

This poll done by CNN on March 30, 2000, shows John McCain with a 59-35% lead on all Gore in a hypothetical race.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/28/cnn.poll/index.html

Yep. It would have been an early champagne-popping evening on Election Night 2000.

For the both of us. :)

John McCain 2008

MCCAIN LANDSLIDE Y'ALL

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/776491/McCainv.Gore.GIF

Is this a good map?  By the way, how do u get your maps on the pages w/o a link?

[ img ] link [ / img ] without all the spaces.

looks about right, very possible at least.

Here's my map:

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John McCain/Orrin Hatch: 346 Electoral Votes

Albert Gore/Joseph Leiberman: 192 Electoral Votes

I think Delaware and Maine could have gone to McCain. Otherwise, I agree.

McCain would definitely win Maine

I think McCain would have secured a subsantial victory, at least 10%.  But even if it's 5%, he still gets Wisconsin and Minnesota and probably Washington.

I thought Orrin hatch as VP would throw some support off in Maine.

I think Maine would have went McCain anyway. Worse case for McCain in Maine, he gets one of the electoral votes.

PB, are you kidding?  McCain is perfect for Maine, it like New Hampshire, and we know how popular he is in New Hamspshire.