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Title: Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 04, 2004, 11:26:50 PM
OK, let's say in the future there's a civil war, and the country is split up into many smaller ones. This is a map:

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The rulers of the new nations are:

Northwest - StevenNick
Southwest - Brambila
Midwest (all the red from Michigan to the Dakotas and Nebaraska) - BRTD
Indiana and Kentucky (ignore the fact that Kentucky borders Missouri with the same color) - bandit73
Southcentral (gray area from Texas to Missouri) - jmfcst
Southeast (red from Florida to Tennessee) - StatesRights
blue from Ohio to NC - Josh22
DC, Maryland and Delaware - RightWingNut
Pennsylvania and NJ - Keystone Phil
Northeast - migrendel

since there was just a civil war, it is VERY unstable. So what happens now?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 04, 2004, 11:42:26 PM
StevenNick and Brambila will join together..
Me and keystone phil will join together...
jmfcst and statesright will join together...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: The Duke on August 04, 2004, 11:49:11 PM
You swapped me out and Brambila in.

I guess what happens is that I lead the Camp Pendelton Marines to victory in a revolt against Brambila's government.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 04, 2004, 11:49:28 PM
I'll go into detail, later...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 04, 2004, 11:52:02 PM
Certainly Rightwingnut wouldn't last long as leader of MD and DC!

I'd organize a coup against him and then try to reunite us with New England.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 04, 2004, 11:54:46 PM
Certainly Rightwingnut wouldn't last long as leader of MD and DC!

I'd organize a coup against him and then try to reunite us with New England.

You'd have to get through Keystone Phil's area though. that's a messy war.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 04, 2004, 11:56:03 PM
You swapped me out and Brambila in.

I guess what happens is that I lead the Camp Pendelton Marines to victory in a revolt against Brambila's government.

I figured he'd be more interesting. But let's say he gets annoyed you aren't taking enough action socially, so he has a coup.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 04, 2004, 11:57:31 PM
I think a new war would break out in the middle of the nation.

The Kentucky/Tennessee border would be pretty bloody, border skirmishes between bandit and States' forces all the time. Same with the border between me and jmfcst. Me and bandit would probably ally...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 05, 2004, 12:01:43 AM
Certainly Rightwingnut wouldn't last long as leader of MD and DC!

I'd organize a coup against him and then try to reunite us with New England.

You'd have to get through Keystone Phil's area though. that's a messy war.

We'd fight our way up the NJ Turnpike and just ignore PA.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ijohn57s on August 05, 2004, 12:03:24 AM
I'd organize a militia and support States in his clashes against Bandit.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:04:59 AM
Migrendel might give you some support. North NJ would be insanely militarized, so would NYC. Probably would have troops on every street corner.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 05, 2004, 12:12:21 AM
Migrendel might give you some support. North NJ would be insanely militarized, so would NYC. Probably would have troops on every street corner.

Excellent...we'll meet up with his forces in Princeton.

Now almost surrounded by "Red" states, I expect an uprising against Phil in the streets of Philadelphia, leading the creation of the self-governing "Philadelphia commune" secretly run by a cabal of Boston brahmins.

Phil pleads for help from Josh's army, who responds by immediately seizing the four Western counties of Maryland in preparation for a siege on Baltimore.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:17:26 AM
Great Civil war

After the United States splits up, StevenNick and Brambia unite the West once again. They pull every man they have and start to march east to Better Dead Then Red's nation.

Better Dead Then Red hears about this, and takes action ASP. He gets his army together and starts to march west, to meet them. But what Steven and Brambia don't know is that Better Dead Then Red had a branch of his army head south to circle around behind them.

While this war is unfolds, Jmfcst and StatesRights set up meetings to try to join the South. They agreed to unite. Now the only thing left is to get Josh to join them. So they fly to Greensboro, NC, where Josh is running the show. When they got there, Josh meets then and welcomes them into his home.

For hours they talked about uniting, but Josh was to hard headed to join them. So Jmfcst and StatesRights left very angry at Josh.  

When they got back to Dallas, TX, the new capital of the South. They talk about how they are going to get Josh's nation. So they came up with the only thing they could think of, to go to war with Josh.

{More to come}

The map--
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Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 12:35:31 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:42:28 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

no, you'd just have more difficulty occupying Philly, although it would no doubt spawn lots of guerillas if NickG's forces came around. I can already see Handzus the rebel leader.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 12:45:39 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

 I can already see Handzus the rebel leader.

Now that would be an interesting scenario.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
I wonder what would happen if you captured him? execute him the same way Stalin executed rebels? that sounds more along the lines of StatesRights or Brambila though.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 12:50:24 AM
with the way you two fight if you captured him you'd probably execute him the same way Stalin executed rebels.

Execution, BRTD? Alittle extreme don't you think?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:50:41 AM
BRTD and the West's army meets up in Lincoln, NE.  The war starts, and a bloody and rough one it is.  For 3 hours it is none stop killing.  When BRTD 2nd half of the army comes in from the West. The west's army pulls out and heads towards MT and WY. BRTD see that he can take over them two states so he makes his move, and takes them states.

At the very same time, in Dallas. Jmfcst and States, gets their army ready for war. Josh still not knowing what is going to happen in the near future.

So he flies to PA and meets with Keystone Phil, in a hiding army bases, just made.  While there they makes plans to unite and attack Right wing nut. So they get an army together and head towards MD.

As soon as Right nut hears about this, he phones Mignedel and ask him for help. He agrees, and they make an army and set a base up in rural NY.  They plan to march south and attack from the North.

{More to come}

Map--
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Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:51:38 AM
no one is reading my posts.. oh well, i'm having fun :D


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:53:34 AM
with the way you two fight if you captured him you'd probably execute him the same way Stalin executed rebels.

Execution, BRTD? Alittle extreme don't you think?

well if we're talking about rebels who knows. But I edited it because even if you would execute people I don't see using the Stalin method.

for the record he would hang them, but instead of a noose stick a hook in the back of their necks, which would usually take around 3 hours. Most of them were Nazi sympathizers though.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:53:58 AM
no one is reading my posts.. oh well, i'm having fun :D

I am.

I don't really see RWN siding with migrendel though, and in fact his government would probably collapse very quickly due to how laissez-faire it would be.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:54:55 AM

Oh, what do you think?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:55:30 AM

see edit.

btw, by controlling ND, I control most of the country's nukes :D

of course I'd dispose of most of them, considering my ideology.

i'm also wondering what Tweed would do. Go up into upstate NY and then try to sneak into Phil's nation?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:56:53 AM

see edit.

btw, by controlling ND, I control most of the country's nukes :D

of course I'd dispose of most of them, considering my ideology.

Well I have keep the nukes in mind. I say he joins the army :D


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 12:59:28 AM
you know there isn't really anywhere Tweed would be happy. Closest is probably RWN's nation.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 12:59:32 AM


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 01:00:17 AM
you know there isn't really anywhere Tweed would be happy. Closest is probably RWN's nation.

yep.. but i have big plans for him...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 01:06:13 AM
i'm going to bed. Have to wait until tomorrow to finds what happens. It is going to be BIG and might make things turn out very messy. :D


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 01:12:27 AM
I kind of wonder what Lunar would do. nclib would probably be leading partisan raids against Josh's government.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TheWildCard on August 05, 2004, 02:02:17 AM
I'd encourage a revolt to re-instate Democracy(probably with the help of Ford's Marines) and hopefully find some way to become the south-west's first President. :p


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 03:15:32 AM
I am done with the next part, just to tired to type and make the maps tonight. Lets just say, the Mine and Keystone nation and the southern nation goes under major events.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 10:12:59 AM
As the war dies down in the West, one is about to break out in the East. Nclib is very upset on how things are going in his nation. So he sets up a meeting with Josh. So Josh flies to Durham for the meeting.

Meanwhile, back in PA Keystone Phil is going over the plans and looking over his speech to make to the public. Suddenly three shots were heard. Keystone Phil falls to the ground. He is taken to the hospital, where he dies a few hours later.

When Josh hears this very sad news, he asks nclib to help him out with leading the nation. Nclib gladly says yes, and the two of them start making plans.


Bandit and BRTD, join there nations together.  BRTD sets up a date for the Midwest very first election.

States hears what happens to Keystone Phil and that Josh is now working with nclib. This just makes states go crazy. While states is marching towards NC with the army, jmfcst stayed back in Dallas.

The West see that they can attack the South, because there army is thousands of miles away.  So they march to Dallas and start to destroys everything.  

Jmfcst was killed in one of the bombs set off in Dallas. The West takes over TX, OK, KS.  When States hears about this, he stops marching toward NC and go back to FL and looks for another person to help him.

{more to come}

Map--
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Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 11:03:33 AM
After our great and respected leader Keystone Phil dies, I will take political leadership of the Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia.  The CPFM’s goal is to ensure economic, religious, and other freedoms are not infringed upon by foreign powers and that Pennsylvania will always be a constitutional, democratic republic.  We will fight to the death to keep the Keystone state free from tyrannical rule.  We also want apprehend and punish the assassins who murdered our great leader, Keystone Phil.  Our militia is composed of hunters, Pennsylvania National Guard Members, and other freedom loving citizens.  The CPFM military leadership is provided by a high ranking National Guard member.  We are armed with hunting rifles, and PA National Guard weapons.  Our greatest weapon is our willingness to die for our cause.  Live free or die!  We will never forget our leader Keystone Phil.  We will never forget what he stood for.  We will never forget that he dedicated his life to fighting for the best interests of Pennsylvanians and that he saw the best in us and believed in us.  WE WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT HE DIED FOR!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:17:35 AM
After our great and respected leader Keystone Phil dies,

:o you're already planning what happens after I die?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 11:33:53 AM
After our great and respected leader Keystone Phil dies,

:o you're already planning what happens after I die?

Yea you get shot :D


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:35:32 AM

Whoa whoa wait! When did this happen?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 11:36:43 AM

If you would read my posts i have been posting, then you would know :P


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:37:22 AM

Nevermind, I found it. :'(


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: PBrunsel on August 05, 2004, 12:54:01 PM
I lead the "Army of Herbert Hoover" to overthrow the Communist Government of BRTD.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: 7,052,770 on August 05, 2004, 01:06:08 PM
....well darn, I guess I'm not involved in this at all . . . I suppose I'm statesright's left hand man or something


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 01:11:57 PM
....well darn, I guess I'm not involved in this at all . . . I suppose I'm statesright's left hand man or something

I can see you leading the resistance against him.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 01:21:00 PM
As a political leader in central Pennsylvania, I would like to begin talks with you, regional President Josh22.  I propose that Pennsylvania legally join your federation of states.  For the Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia to abandon claims to the Pennsylvania government, certain conditions must be met.  I propose that we begin talks on an official treaty.  I realize that eventually your military could destroy the militia, but we could cause incredible destruction to your military forces.  I believe it is better that we work together to defeat our common enemies, so that one day the people of Pennsylvania and the people of your nation may live in peace.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 01:24:12 PM
As a political leader in central Pennsylvania, I would like to begin talks with you, regional President Josh22.  I propose that Pennsylvania legally join your federation of states.  For the Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia to abandon claims to the Pennsylvania government, certain conditions must be met.  I propose that we begin talks on an official treaty.

Wait! Who is protecting Southeast PA from Handzus!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 01:29:12 PM
The Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia is stretched thin already, but I will ask the General of the CPFM about the feasibility of protecting Philadelphia.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 01:40:15 PM
I'm writing a story. So it will go how I want it too :P  And I am not the Presdient... I have just running the show :D


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 01:42:01 PM
Currently the CPFM is protecting an area in central Pennsylvania from Lancaster County in the southeast to Bradford County in the northeast and from to Somerset County in the southwest to Warren County in the northwest.  These boundaries extend from southern to northern Pennsylvania.  The military leadership of the CPFM has deemed that it would spread our forces too thinly if we extended the area of protection beyond these boundaries.    


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 01:45:13 PM
I'm writing a story. So it will go how I want it too :P  And I am not the Presdient... I have just running the show :D

But Josh22 wouldn’t it be more fun if Keystone Phil and I could play the game with you?  I want to help you conquer the world.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 01:49:25 PM
I'm writing a story. So it will go how I want it too :P  And I am not the Presdient... I have just running the show :D

But Josh22 wouldn’t it be more fun if Keystone Phil and I could play the game with you?  I want to help you conquer the world.

Well that is hard to do, when im writing a story. I might put you in the story.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 01:56:42 PM
I'm writing a story. So it will go how I want it too :P  And I am not the Presdient... I have just running the show :D

But Josh22 wouldn’t it be more fun if Keystone Phil and I could play the game with you?  I want to help you conquer the world.

Well that is hard to do, when im writing a story. I might put you in the story.


You can be the master of the outcomes of the battles and other things, but why can’t you incorporate my actions into your story.  You can make me win or loose a battle, but if I lead the militia into combat you could acknowledge that in your story.  I would like my actions to be acknowledged in the story, but you and only you may decide their outcomes.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 02:32:26 PM
The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--
()


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 02:41:42 PM
If the following treaty is signed by the President of North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, and New Jersey, Josh22; it will become active law of the state of Pennsylvania.  The forces of the Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia will be at the command of President Josh22.  The CPFM hopes that it can serve Josh22 as its new commander.  The leadership of the CPFM suggests that the CPFM be used to attack Premier Migrendel’s Socialist Peoples Republic of New England or Bandit73’s Marxist Monarchy in Kentucky.      
       

The following are some ideas for a treaty that would legally join Josh22’s mid-Atlantic republic with the republic of Pennsylvania.  First I would like to say that any treaty must be ratified by the people of Pennsylvania.  The state of Pennsylvania would agree to enter into a treaty that made Pennsylvania a member of a federation or a confederation.  Power should be divided between the national and state governments or the state governments should be supreme.  Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, economic freedom should be preserved.  Pennsylvania’s citizens and businesses should not be taxed by the national government for more than a total of 35% of their income, and their economic choices should not be unduly regulated.  Pennsylvanians should be allowed to freely trade with non-communist countries that are not enemies of their national government.  Because Pennsylvania will only join a federation or confederation, it should be governed by a Governor who is elected by the people of Pennsylvania and a legislature that is also elected by the people of Pennsylvania.  Pennsylvania should be allowed to maintain a State Guard for the defense of citizens.  This treaty will make the constitution of Josh22’s country sovereign law.  All powers not delegated to his country’s national government in its constitution shall be reserved for the state of Pennsylvania and its people.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 05, 2004, 02:48:28 PM
The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--
()

That was quick.  The war is over?  I wanted more blood and guts.  How did the war end?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 02:51:29 PM
The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--
()

That was quick.  The war is over?  I wanted more blood and guts.  How did the war end?

I will post that later, but right now I have to get ready.  I am going to school, for cross country.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: © tweed on August 05, 2004, 05:35:06 PM
As to those wondering what I would do, I would try to take over Suffolk and Nassau counties, as well as Brooklyn and Queens.

If you give me that, I'll leave you all alone.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 07:11:07 PM
The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--
()

any nation set up by me would not use the Electoral College.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 07:12:13 PM
The Mid-west election

This is the first election after the war. BRTD is the likely candidate to win. He is running on the Red Party. The Red party is a left wing party, who wants to stop all war. And destroy all nukes they have.

There is another candidate too, PBrunsel. He is running on the Hoover Party. The HP is a right wing party who wants to join the West and make one big nation. And keep the nukes.

BRTD was head by a lot when the election started. But it quickly went down, after people found out how he stood on issues.

With two days until the election, the polls show that 51% of the nation wants BRTD and 48% wants PBrunsel.

And this is the out come of the election...

Green- PBrunsel(Hoover party)
Dark Red- Better Red Then Dead (Red Party)

Map--
()

any nation set up by me would not use the Electoral College.

Well this is the only way i could think of.. :D  But I'll remember that for other elections.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 07:42:00 PM
Also if the West continued their aggression to us and the Hoover Party supported them I'd ban them as a terrorist front.

But I'd probably use some parlimentary system. So parliment would have 101 seats except third parties would draw more. As it is my party would most likely win and Texasgurl would be Prime Minister.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 07:51:34 PM
here's a breakdown of the parlimentary elections:

Reds - 45% (46 seats)
Hoover Party - 37% (37 seats)
Foundation of Democracy - 16% (16 seats)
United Workers - 2% (2 seats)

The Foundation of Democracy is a center-center right party which supports our sovereignty and opposes Western agression but is opposed to most of my far left economic policies.

The United Workers are a fringe left faction who want unleash our nuclear arsenal on the west and south.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 07:54:45 PM
here's a breakdown of the parlimentary elections:

Reds - 45% (46 seats)
Hoover Party - 37% (37 seats)
Foundation of Democracy - 16% (16 seats)
United Workers - 2% (2 seats)

The Foundation of Democracy is a center-center right party which supports our sovereignty and opposes Western agression but is opposed to most of my far left economic policies.

The United Workers are a fringe left faction who want unleash our nuclear arsenal on the west and south.

Sounds good to me...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ijohn57s on August 05, 2004, 08:01:05 PM

Maybe we can clone you, Phil. :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 09:09:00 PM

NO! I'm totally opposed to cloning!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ijohn57s on August 05, 2004, 09:18:22 PM

I am too, but I didn't want to see you go down like that. Maybe we could use cryogenics instead. :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ilikeverin on August 05, 2004, 10:17:45 PM
I would probably be a far left member of the Foundation of Democracy, or form my own party.

:)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 10:23:06 PM
I would probably be a far left member of the Foundation of Democracy, or form my own party.

:)

I'd appoint you governor of Minnesota.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 10:24:01 PM
I would, try to unite the nation again.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ilikeverin on August 05, 2004, 10:42:36 PM
I would probably be a far left member of the Foundation of Democracy, or form my own party.

:)

I'd appoint you governor of Minnesota.

Okie dokie.  Note I wouldn't support a lot of your laws, but I'd certainly support some.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 05, 2004, 11:01:39 PM
To refine my storyline centering around the MD/DC/DE state.  (Arbitrarily starting the story in January 2020).

Year 2020
January - Following the Civil War, RightWingNut seizes control of Maryland, Delaware, and DC, forming the Free Kingdom of Chesapeake.  RWN established a tentative peace with Josh in the South and Keystone Phil in the North, agreeing on boundaries free trade among their states.

February – RightWingNut, in an attempt to create a laissez-faire state, lays off one million government employees in DC and Maryland.  Within days, business in DC is stalled by riots and protesters, lead by MichaelZ.  For two weeks, anarchy reigns in Washington, Rockville, and Bethesda.

March - Two rebel leader emerge in Maryland: Beet, a Baltimore moderate who promises free elections and restoration of essential government services, and NickG who promises not only reemployment of all those fired, but a massive public works program and an aggressive stance toward neighboring leaders Phil and Josh.  In DC, organizer MichaelZ is able to calm the rioting and harness its power into a massive march on the White House.  Protestors surround and stake out RWN’s residence; while the daily lives of Chesapeakans slowly resume, government business remains at a standstill.

April – After a month-long siege of the White House and fearing a violent coup by MichaelZ, RWN abdicates power to Beet, who forms a provisional government in Baltimore.  Beet plans stop-gap elections for October, and promises a democratic constitution will be completed within a year.  RWN goes into exile in Newport News, Virginia, under the protection of Josh.

May – Elections to the 100-seat Chesapeake Senate, which will also function as a constitutional convention, are set for October 2.

June through August – During the summer campaign, Beet’s United Bay Centrists and NickG’s Progressive Party run close in the polls.  NickG promises to unite Chesapeake with Migrendal’s People’s Republic of New England, and take a tough stand against Phil and Josh.  Beet plans to keep Chesapeake independent and work with Phil and Josh when convenient.  MichaelZ remains mum as to a possible candidacy.   The conservative Free People’s Party also campaigns, but most voters worry they are only a stalking horse for a take-over by Keystone Phil.

September – Beet’s UBC narrowly leads the poll, but many Chesapeakans, especially those in DC, fear being surrounded by two strident social conservatives.  Sensing a growing need for a strategic alliance with Migrendal, MichaelZ joins the Progressive Party, runs for Senate, and endorses NickG’s campaign for President.  The Progressive Party leaps into the lead.

October 2 – Election results:
Maryland (75 Seats) -  Progressive 36, UBC 29, FPP 10
District of Columbia (15 Seats) – Progressive 11, UBC 2, Independent 2
Delaware (10 Seats) – UBC 4, FPP 4, Progressive 3
Nick G is elected Prime Minister.  However, he quietly scuttles the planned constitutional convention, moves the capital back to Washington, and doubles the troop presence in DC and on the Keystone border.  He declares the state the “Democratic Republic of Chesapeake”.  

November – In protest of the abandoned constitutional convention, Beet resigns from the Senate.  NickG flies to Boston for a two-week summit with Premier Migrendal.   The two leaders agree to coordinate defenses against Phil, but worry that uniting their Republics may be impractical without geographic continuity.  Rumors of more ambitious military plans abound, but nothing specific is leaked.

December – Beet, disappointed by the lack of a constitution but still a patriotric Chesapeakan, accepts an appointment as Chancellor of the Naval Academy in Annapolis.  As military build-up continues along the Keystone border, spies and partisans of Appalachia slowly infiltrate into Western Maryland.   In New England, reserve units are called up for duty in New York City and Stamford, Connecticut.

December 31 – A regiment of the Chesapeake Army crosses the Delaware Memorial Bridge.  The Garden State War has begun....

()


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 05, 2004, 11:05:03 PM
To refine my storyline centering around the MD/DC/DE state.  (Arbitrarily starting the story in January 2020).

Year 2020
January - Following the Civil War, RightWingNut seizes control of Maryland, Delaware, and DC, forming the Free Kingdom of Chesapeake.  RWN established a tentative peace with Josh in the South and Keystone Phil in the North, agreeing on boundaries free trade among their states.

February – RightWingNut, in an attempt to create a laissez-faire state, lays off one million government employees in DC and Maryland.  Within days, business in DC is stalled by riots and protesters, lead by MichaelZ.  For two weeks, anarchy reigns in Washington, Rockville, and Bethesda.

March - Two rebel leader emerge in Maryland: Beet, a Baltimore moderate who promises free elections and restoration of essential government services, and NickG who promises not only reemployment of all those fired, but a massive public works program and an aggressive stance toward neighboring leaders Phil and Josh.  In DC, organizer MichaelZ is able to calm the rioting and harness its power into a massive march on the White House.  Protestors surround and stake out RWN’s residence; while the daily lives of Chesapeakans slowly resume, government business remains at a standstill.

April – After a month-long siege of the White House and fearing a violent coup by MichaelZ, RWN abdicates power to Beet, who forms a provisional government in Baltimore.  Beet plans stop-gap elections for October, and promises a democratic constitution will be completed within a year.  RWN goes into exile in Newport News, Virginia, under the protection of Josh.

May – Elections to the 100-seat Chesapeake Senate, which will also function as a constitutional convention, are set for October 2.

June through August – During the summer campaign, Beet’s United Bay Centrists and NickG’s Progressive Party run close in the polls.  NickG promises to unite Chesapeake with Migrendal’s People’s Republic of New England, and take a tough stand against Phil and Josh.  Beet plans to keep Chesapeake independent and work with Phil and Josh when convenient.  MichaelZ remains mum as to a possible candidacy.   The conservative Free People’s Party also campaigns, but most voters worry they are only a stalking horse for a take-over by Keystone Phil.

September – Beet’s UBC narrowly leads the poll, but many Chesapeakans, especially those in DC, fear being surrounded by two strident social conservatives.  Sensing a growing need for a strategic alliance with Migrendal, MichaelZ joins the Progressive Party, runs for Senate, and endorses NickG’s campaign for President.  The Progressive Party leaps into the lead.

October 2 – Election results:
Maryland (75 Seats) -  Progressive 36, UBC 29, FPP 10
District of Columbia (15 Seats) – Progressive 11, UBC 2, Independent 2
Delaware (10 Seats) – UBC 4, FPP 4, Progressive 3
Nick G is elected Prime Minister.  However, he quietly scuttles the planned constitutional convention, moves the capital back to Washington, and doubles the troop presence in DC on the Keystone border.  He declares the state the “Democratic Republic of Chesapeake”.  

November – In protest of the abandoned constitutional convention, Beet resigns from the Senate.  NickG flies to Boston for a two-week summit with Premier Migrendal.   The two leaders agree to coordinate defenses against Phil, but worry that uniting their Republics may be impractical without geographic continuity.  Rumors of more ambitious military plans abound, but nothing specific is leaked.

December – Beet, disappointed by the lack of a constitution but still a patriotric Chesapeakan, accepts an appointment as Chancellor of the Naval Academy in Annapolis.  As military build-up continues along the Keystone border, spies and partisans of Appalachia slowly infiltrate into Western Maryland.   In New England, reserve units are called up for duty in New York City and Stamford, Connecticut.

December 31 – A regiment of the Chesapeake Army crosses the Delaware Memorial Bridge.  The Garden State War has begun....

()

very good.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:07:03 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 05, 2004, 11:08:20 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:09:27 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 05, 2004, 11:12:22 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. :)

Yes, I think my inclinations may be less violent than Josh's...notice that RWN merely went into "exile".  Of course, this also leaves open the possibility of a comeback. ;)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ijohn57s on August 05, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. :)

Maybe if you act fast, you can change history! :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 11:20:23 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. :)

despite numerous assasination attempts, and repeated attacks on government and military installations by Marxist insurgents which intelligence later discovers is receiving funds and weapons from The United Socialist States of the Midwest... :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:21:25 PM
Why am I still listed as the leader of the Keystone Republic? I thought there was an "incident" that ended my leadership.

I think Josh and I are running parallel timelines...mine just started, his is much more advanced.

Oh, ok. Well hey atleast I'm still a leader...and alive. :)

despite numerous assasination attempts, and repeated attacks on government and military installations by Marxist insurgents which intelligence later discovers is receiving funds and weapons from The United Socialist States of the Midwest... :)

BRTD trying to "get rid" of a conservative like myself? No way! I never saw that coming.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 05, 2004, 11:23:04 PM
Handzus is a modern day Che Guevera.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 05, 2004, 11:29:40 PM

I think there may come a day where I actually run against him for elected office. I mean, we have the same elected officials for everything except State House. Districts will change over time but we're still in the same area of the city. Who knows, maybe a Keystone Phil vs. Handzus for PA Governor. Who knows...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ijohn57s on August 05, 2004, 11:32:49 PM

I think there may come a day where I actually run against him for elected office. I mean, we have the same elected officials for everything except State House. Districts will change over time but we're still in the same area of the city. Who knows, maybe a Keystone Phil vs. Handzus for PA Governor. Who knows...

I cast my support behind Phil.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ?????????? on August 06, 2004, 01:23:12 AM
I would not try to destroy Harry. I would team with him and invade Bandits nation and have him hung as well as all his goons.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 02:20:59 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

Not if I can help it!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 06, 2004, 02:23:25 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

Not if I can help it!

haha, I was right. You'd be the rebel leader. The new Che Guevara. And of course you'd have some bases and training camps based in The United Socialist States of the Midwest.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 02:25:33 AM
Keystone Phil, I would banish you and NixonNow to Potter County, PA, then separate a good chunk of eastern PA and New Jersey and have that as a nation.  I would laso be open to a merge with greater MD, DE, and New England and call it "Amtrakia" for the Amtrakl Corridor!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 06, 2004, 02:27:52 AM
I would not try to destroy Harry. I would team with him and invade Bandits nation and have him hung as well as all his goons.

bandit would tell everyone that you would force all schoolkids to wear school uniforms, and they'd put up massive resistance against you.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 02:31:00 AM
Pennsylvania and NJ become new nations and I'm the leader. Interesting. I'll admit my views would not be very favorable in most of Philadelphia however Northeast Philly would accept my views. My guess is that Philadelphia divides with NE Philly still part of the PA - NJ nation and the rest of Philadelphia independent.

Not if I can help it!

haha, I was right. You'd be the rebel leader. The new Che Guevara.

Yep. Exactly why Handzus wouldn't be that sucessful.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:00:28 PM
Bucks County Seceeds from Keystone...calls itself...The Penn Federation.

Bullmoose88 seeks an alliance with Handzus and Gov Nick.

The army of the delaware splits and marches into Mercer County...and occupies it, unopposed and supported by an overwhelming majority of the people. The second half marches into Burlington county and takes the county.

The army of the neshaminy is seen moving down I-95 south towards philadelphia.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:04:04 PM
Bucks County Seceeds from Keystone...calls itself...The Penn Federation.

Bullmoose88 seeks an alliance with Handzus and Gov Nick.


Yeah like I didn't see that coming :P


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:06:37 PM
Bullmoose proves he has a sense of humor...shelling of the Franklin Mills Mall ensues.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:07:13 PM
Bullmoose proves he has a sense of humor...shelling of the Franklin Mills Mall ensues.

WHOA! You're getting close to my base! This is not good...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:11:08 PM
Suicidal Midgets with C4 strapped to them march down Knights Road and Roosevelt Blvd.

Operation Little Guy with a Big Punch ready to get underway.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:14:21 PM
Suicidal Midgets with C4 strapped to them march down Knights Road and Roosevelt Blvd.

Operation Little Guy with a Big Punch ready to get underway.

:( this is not good...my troops are going to have to form a blockade of some sorts.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:17:39 PM
The midgets have encircled NE Philadelphia.

This element of the division is backed up by a bears with lazers on their heads and small armored personel (read VW Beetles with tank turrets) carriers stuffed with 50 clowns each.

(Yeah...the circus was in town...drafted em all into the army...the real force is still shelling FMM)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 06, 2004, 01:19:46 PM
*Josh drinking a ICE COLD CHERRY COKE in his house in Greensboro*


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home. on August 06, 2004, 01:19:54 PM
Y'all have WAY too much time on your hands!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 06, 2004, 01:21:38 PM
Y'all have WAY too much time on your hands!

I know, I need to get a car.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 01:37:59 PM
The midgets have encircled NE Philadelphia.

This element of the division is backed up by a bears with lazers on their heads and small armored personel (read VW Beetles with tank turrets) carriers stuffed with 50 clowns each.

(Yeah...the circus was in town...drafted em all into the army...the real force is still shelling FMM)

Don't forget the fact I'm already in there behind the lines with a massive guerilla force commanded by Gen. Joe Torsella :P


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:38:48 PM
The midgets have encircled NE Philadelphia.

This element of the division is backed up by a bears with lazers on their heads and small armored personel (read VW Beetles with tank turrets) carriers stuffed with 50 clowns each.

(Yeah...the circus was in town...drafted em all into the army...the real force is still shelling FMM)

Don't forget the fact I'm already in there behind the lines with a massive guerilla force commanded by Gen. Joe Torsella :P

Torsella isn't exactly a guerilla leader, wouldn't you agree Handzus?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:40:01 PM
But with a detachment from my circus maximus division...

...he can be a gorrilla leader...

So bad...I know.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 01:40:23 PM
The midgets have encircled NE Philadelphia.

This element of the division is backed up by a bears with lazers on their heads and small armored personel (read VW Beetles with tank turrets) carriers stuffed with 50 clowns each.

(Yeah...the circus was in town...drafted em all into the army...the real force is still shelling FMM)

Don't forget the fact I'm already in there behind the lines with a massive guerilla force commanded by Gen. Joe Torsella :P

Torsella isn't exactly a guerilla leader, wouldn't you agree Handzus?

Yes, but he does have a lot of supppoters.  I'll go with Gen. John 'Doc' Dougherty.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:41:29 PM
The midgets have encircled NE Philadelphia.

This element of the division is backed up by a bears with lazers on their heads and small armored personel (read VW Beetles with tank turrets) carriers stuffed with 50 clowns each.

(Yeah...the circus was in town...drafted em all into the army...the real force is still shelling FMM)

Don't forget the fact I'm already in there behind the lines with a massive guerilla force commanded by Gen. Joe Torsella :P

Torsella isn't exactly a guerilla leader, wouldn't you agree Handzus?
 I'll go with Gen. John 'Doc' Dougherty.

Oh boy. I wonder what Mr. Katz is doing. Maybe he can help defend the city...


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:43:18 PM
Torresdale has been reduced to rubble.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:43:55 PM
Handzus' block excluded if he lives there.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:47:51 PM
Torresdale has been reduced to rubble.

Ok this is getting out of hand. GovNickG's scenario is better :P Atleast my base is still entacted when he tells the story.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TheWildCard on August 06, 2004, 01:49:32 PM
Ah I see what kind of thread this is turning out to be.

Because of the inactivity of our leader Brambila I will now seize control of the South West as its President General!

As President General of the South-West my first order of bussiness is to take all of the North-West... Starting now!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 01:51:48 PM
All I want Phil to do...(You live in Torresdale?) is to cede Northamption, Montogomery and Jersey (mercer and atlantic counties North) to the Penn Federation.

I will still level the Franklin Mills Mall though.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 01:56:33 PM
All I want Phil to do...(You live in Torresdale?) is to cede Northamption, Montogomery and Jersey (mercer and atlantic counties North) to the Penn Federation.


But you're destroying the Northeast!


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 01:58:18 PM
Handzus' block excluded if he lives there.

Please spare a lot of us.  Keep KeystonePhil cooped up with John Perzel in his little fort.  It's possible.  Funny, Torrsedale isn't that conservative.  KeystonePhil would fit in Fox Chase quite nicely though.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 06, 2004, 02:02:13 PM
Only FMM...

Give me the counties I want, and North Jersey...Its not like you want that anyway...(Besides...I've got Giants Stadium to bulldoze).


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 02:04:08 PM

Actually this is an area were Bush did pretty well. We are a conservative area (probably not as conservative as Fox Chase though)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 02:06:54 PM
It's funny Fox Chase is by far the most conservative area in NE Philly and places like Pine Valley and Bustleton Gore did fairly well.  Some parts of Bustleton Gore won over 75%.  I wonder why Fox Chase is so sconservative?    


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Keystone Phil on August 06, 2004, 02:11:26 PM
It's funny Fox Chase is by far the most conservative area in NE Philly and places like Pine Valley and Bustleton Gore did fairly well.  Some parts of Bustleton Gore won over 75%.

The reason why that happens is the fact that most Republicans in these areas don't get out and vote (it's ashame but true). Gore could get 75% in an area but that might be because of a 20% turnout. Let's say there is an area of Pine Valley that is 55% Republican and Gore get's 75% of the vote in the 2000 election. Do you really think he received many Republican votes? No. It's just that the Republicans don't turn out. Hopefully that will begin to change.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: TeePee4Prez on August 06, 2004, 02:13:57 PM
One thing I've noticed, Pine Valley has a lot of highly paid city workers.  They know who's buttering their bread.  Fox Chase on the other hand has a lot of churches and most people are more business-minded.  A lot of contractors live there for some reasson or another.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 06, 2004, 05:47:31 PM
The Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia would like to make its territorial boundaries known.  Currently the CPFM is protecting an area in central Pennsylvania from Lancaster County in the southeast to Bradford County in the northeast and from to Somerset County in the southwest to Warren County in the northwest.  These boundaries extend from southern to northern Pennsylvania.  The eastern boundary is Lancaster, Lebanon, Dauphin, Northumberland, Montour, Lycoming, Sullivan, and Bradford.  Any movement of troops across this line by anyone other than Keystone Phil will be seen as an act of war.  We are currently investigating the possibility that 5 captured prisoners have ties to rebel leader Handzus26.  If these rebel scouts have ties to Handzus26, there will be retribution.  The CPFM would like to offer political asylum to the strangely still living Keystone Phil.  We will provide food and shelter for you and your forces.  We will not however dissolve our organization.  The CPFM was formed on the premise that our leader was assassinated.  The leadership of the CPFM will not abdicate to the Keystone government because it believes that the Keystone Armed Forces are currently unable to guard a larger area than they already are.  The Central Pennsylvania Republic and the Central Pennsylvania Freedom Militia realizes that compared to other nations its military equipment is less capable, but our determination to fight and possibly die for our ideals is second to none.  We would like to make peace with the surrounding nations, but if instead we are confronted with hostility, we will give our lives for your destruction.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fmr. Gov. NickG on August 06, 2004, 06:20:38 PM
The next six months of my time line.  I've seen a lot of interesting ideas for Pennsylvania, but I probably can't incorporate any of them until next year.

Year 2021 – The Garden State War
Part I


January– Advancing Chesapeake armies fight their way up the sporadically defending South New Jersey Turnpike.   Trailing armies skirmish with Keystone forces just West of Philadelphia of Philadelphia.

February – With Phil’s Philadelphia army distracted to the west, the advancing Chesapeake force conquers Camden, NJ.  They are greeted as liberators by partisans of Philadephia’s dissident leader Handzus.

March – Migrendal’s army crosses the George Washington Bridge, beginning the second front of the Garden State War.   Phil’s armies in East Brunswick march north to meet their New England foes.  Meanwhile, Cumberland, MD, a small town in Chesapeake’s westernmost county, votes to secede from the Republic and affiliate with Appalachia.  Chesapeake intelligence indicates that Cumberland’s mayor, elected in October 2020, had personal ties to Josh before the Civil War.  

April – Hagerstown, a larger city in Western MD infiltrated by Appalachian partisans, also votes to secede from Chesapeake.  With his armies elsewhere occupied, NickG largely ignores the vote.  RightWingNut emerges from exile in Newport News, VA promise to restore the Kingdom of Chesapeake.  He quickly recuits a sizeable citizen’s militia.  The Chesapeake Navy, reconstituted under the command of Adm. Beet, ships out to provide support along the coast of Southern New Jersey.

May – Beet’s navy overcomes a small defensive outpost in Atlantic City, NJ.  The casinos do record business, and each sailor is comped a luxurious hotel suite.  Appalachian armies march out of Fort Royal, VA toward the Maryland border.  Salisbury, MD, on the eastern shore, secedes from Chesapeake to join Appalachia.  Salisbury, although not yet influenced by Appalachian saboteurs, was rumored to be the retreat for many loyalist of RightWingNut following the coup of April 2020.  NickG is concerned, but his military is spread to thin to respond.

()

June – Delayed for months by traffic in the Lincoln Tunnel, New England armies finally conquer Jersey City on their way south to Newark.   RightWingNut’s militia begins to march North, gathering new recruits at every stop.   Forces of Phil and NickG prepare for a climactic battle in Trenton.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 06, 2004, 06:37:30 PM
You should include what is taking place in the West and South in you story.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 06, 2004, 08:00:22 PM
Here is some information about the forces of the CPFM.  The CPFM currently utilizes some of the defense assets of the former Pennsylvania National Guard.  In the time leading up to the Second U.S. Civil War, the PA National Guard was not well maintained.  During the economic crisis of the 20 teens, U.S. military and state National Guard budgets were heavily cut.  State governments, including Pennsylvania’s, could barely provide basic entitlements, like the Senior Citizens Recreation Fund and cosmetic surgery for canines, let alone fund less important programs like defense.  Some in government proposed dissolving the National Guards.  In the end, the decision was left to the states.  Pennsylvania, under the leadership of a Republican governor chose to maintain a small National Guard.  While they used outdated weapons from the last century, they were well trained.  The National Guard again became an issue in the 2018 Pennsylvania election, State Senator and businessman Keystone Phil faced Philadelphia Councilman Handzus26.  Keystone Phil proposed an economic stimulus package that would strengthen Pennsylvania’s faltering economy and increased funding for the National Guard.  Handzus26 favored government subsidized entertainment to keep the youth and senior citizens out of trouble and the abolition of the National Guard.  Keystone Phil won the election by 5%.  He became the first republican gubernatorial candidate to win certain sections of Philadelphia since who knows how long.  As Keystone Phil began to turn the Pennsylvania economy around, the civil war broke out in 2020.  This brings us to the present.  The CPFM possesses tanks, Humvees, APC’s (armored personal carriers), and mobile surface to air missile defense systems.  As for our air force, we have F-15 Eagles, F-16 Falcons, and A-10 Thunderbolts.  The CPFM does not currently maintain a navy.  As is obvious, these last century weapons are outdated.  The U.S. Military possesses far superior weapons to which the CPFM has no access.  The CPFM believes that it may be confronted with these superior weapons in combat.  Another problem for the CPFM is that it has limited petroleum reserves.  Because U.S. currency is all but worthless the CPFM has little to trade for much needed fuel.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: © tweed on August 06, 2004, 10:43:13 PM
Can I have Long Island?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 07, 2004, 12:56:56 AM
Willow Grove Naval Air Station is now under my control

Strike package of F/A-18s is fueling on the tarmac.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 07, 2004, 01:02:36 AM
If Nick G and Phil do not remove their troops from the province of Mercer (Trenton), I will be forced to launch a massive airstrike that will make God's own thunder look weak.

Do not violate the sovereign territory of the Penn Federation.

>P

A detachment of the Army of the Neshaminy has sped down I-95 into South Philadelphia and split into 2 divisions, intentions unknown.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 07, 2004, 01:13:20 AM
Observers in Camden New Jersey have notice smoke billowing out of the smokestacks of the USS New Jersey, a World War II battleship last used in the 1991 Gulf War.

Some said the ship was moving at a speed of 10 knots, north along the delaware river.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Platypus on August 07, 2004, 01:54:25 AM
The Front for Oceanic Freedom fedration (F-OFF)has seen the breakdown of the USA as a way to liberate their American Samoa, Guamian and Hawaiian brothers. A force of 10,000 F-OFFers is ude to land on Kaui in any moment. American Samoa and Huam have already been occupied, and a fleet of F-OFF ships are surrounding the Hawaiian islands.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 07, 2004, 08:34:38 AM
The intelligence gathering services of CPFM have discovered that Keystone Phil is alive!  The reports that said that he was assinated are incorrect.  It appears that these reports are propaganda spread by Handzus26.  It is believed that Handzus26 held the local Philadelphia news stations hostage and forced them to spread the disinformation.  How this development will influence the current politic situation is still to be determined.  The Keystone Armed Forces still maintain control over Philadelphia and Chester County.  The leadership of the Central Pennsylvania Republic suggests that the Keystone Republic, the Central Pennsylvania Republic, and the Penn Federation join forces to defeat our common enemies.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Fritz on August 07, 2004, 09:42:58 AM
Good lord, its amazing what goes on in this place when I'm gone for a week.....  :D

BRTD, do I get any kind of position in your government?


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 07, 2004, 01:26:23 PM
you can be in my cabinet.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: © tweed on August 07, 2004, 01:35:23 PM
As to those wondering what I would do, I would try to take over Suffolk and Nassau counties, as well as Brooklyn and Queens.

If you give me that, I'll leave you all alone.



Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 07, 2004, 04:35:28 PM
As to those wondering what I would do, I would try to take over Suffolk and Nassau counties, as well as Brooklyn and Queens.

If you give me that, I'll leave you all alone.


Sure.  It is fine with me, but Premier Migrendel might have a problem with it because it is a part of his Socialist People’s Republic of New England.  I suggest you start a rebellion.  


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: © tweed on August 07, 2004, 07:25:33 PM
If Migrendel doesn't havea  descision by the 17th I will rebel.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ilikeverin on August 07, 2004, 08:19:08 PM
BRTD: I suggest we propose alliances (or peace or something) with the Penn Federation and the F-OFF and a 'Strong Super-Alliance of Communistic Happy Cheeriness' with SPR of New England :)


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ?????????? on August 07, 2004, 08:27:14 PM
My government would send aid to Boss Tweed. I would have his army armed and well supplied to overthrow Premier Migrendel.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 07, 2004, 08:31:30 PM
The Penn Federation would send some airsupport.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Platypus on August 07, 2004, 10:32:10 PM
F-OFF has completely captured Hawaii, and it has proclaimed it's independence under new ruler, Hugh. He has depanded all former american nations recognise Hawaiian independence, and also their claim over the Alutes.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 07, 2004, 10:34:38 PM
The Penn Federation gives diplomatic recognition and asks for an exchange of ambassadors


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 08, 2004, 01:43:08 PM
F-OFF has completely captured Hawaii, and it has proclaimed it's independence under new ruler, Hugh. He has depanded all former american nations recognise Hawaiian independence, and also their claim over the Alutes.

I suspect Brambila will see this as an act of war since Hawaii is part of his nation.  Hopefully NickG will write more of the story soon and incorporate our actions into it.  
The Central Pennsylvania Republic will recognize the F-OFF as a sovereign nation if the F-OFF recognizes the sovereignty of the CPR.  If Ruler Hugh recognizes the CPR, the CPR wishes to exchange ambassadors.  The CPR wishes to know the official title of Ruler Hugh and what form of government the F-OFF has.  These actions of the CPR are not to be construed as any form of hostility toward Brambila’s nation.  The recognition of the F-OFF is not an endorsement of the Hugh government.  It is simply acknowledging the reality that Brambila no longer controls the islands of the Pacific.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 08, 2004, 01:51:56 PM
My government would send aid to Boss Tweed. I would have his army armed and well supplied to overthrow Premier Migrendel.

I agree that we must overthrow Premier Migrendel.  What do you think about an alliance, States Rights?  I know the forces of the CPFM are comparatively weak, but we believe that the Socialist People’s Republic of New England poses a threat to us.  The Central Pennsylvania Republic would support Boss Tweed’s efforts to proclaim independence for Long Island New York.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: W in 2004 on August 08, 2004, 02:02:10 PM
Bullmoose88, the CPR would like to make peace with the Penn Federation.  The CPR will make peace with the Penn Federation on the condition that the Penn Federation will not try to take Philadelphia and Chester County from Keystone Phil.  The CPR believes that the CPR, Penn Federation, and the Keystone Republic should work together to defeat Premier Migrendel’s Socialist Peoples Republic of New England.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: ilikeverin on August 08, 2004, 02:03:09 PM
Bullmoose is more likely to support Migrendel than you.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: Platypus on August 08, 2004, 10:21:47 PM
As F-OFF has no stake in mainlamd USA, we are preparted to recognise all current states in the former USA. We will ahppily trade ambassadors with every leader excluding Brambila, until he gives up his claim oin Hawaii and the Alutes.

We are an international confederation, incorporating Australia, PNG, Vanuatu, Palau, The Solomons, Fiji, Tonga, Tuvalu, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, New Zealand, Samoa, Kiribati, Nauru and Tokelau. Our leader is elected every three years, and there are no term limits. Hugh, R-AU, is in his second term.

We have liberated Hawaii into our confederation, and will make it a dependency for the next three years, when it can choose to become an independent nation within the confederation or remain a dependency. We also believe that former US states that border the pacific, as they have some copastal pacific islands, ought to be able to choose whether to stay under the right wing dictator Brambila or join as independent nation in F-OFF.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: bullmoose88 on August 08, 2004, 11:47:55 PM
The Penn Federation Agrees to the stipulations of the central PA republic.


Title: Re:Atlasia in the future
Post by: © tweed on August 15, 2004, 07:54:49 AM
I guess this thing dropped dead.