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Title: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 07:41:36 pm
So we can see how many votes uncommited gets...


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: afleitch on January 15, 2008, 07:42:40 pm
I wonder if Uncommited will give a speech afterwards :)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 07:42:54 pm
...and how many Mike Gravel gets.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 07:43:59 pm
...and how many Mike Gravel gets.

And Kucinich and Dodd.

I wonder if Uncommited will give a speech afterwards :)

That would be awesome.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Great Again: Roy Moore's Handmaid's Tale on January 15, 2008, 07:45:34 pm
Gravel landslide.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2008, 08:03:50 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 08:04:36 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%

What?! I assume that's a typo...


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 08:04:55 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%

Please let it be true!!!!!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 08:05:00 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%


Surprise, surprise. Actually, given the extremely low turnout, it's very possible that Clinton ends up humiliated. (The black vote will be a substantial part of the overall result.) We shall see.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2008, 08:06:15 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%

What?! I assume that's a typo...

No, it's not a typo.  Remember, that's just the *black* voters.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 08:07:24 pm
On Fox News Channel, they're already talking about exit poll results.  They just said that among black voters voting in the Dem. primary, it was:

Uncommitted 69%
Clinton 25%

she's going to have a difficult time in SC then


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 08:09:21 pm
Is anyone else besides me thinking, that Uncommitted will win Detroit?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 08:10:40 pm
Yeah, but the black vote is pretty sizable in the Democratic Michigan primary...


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 08:10:57 pm
Is anyone else besides me thinking, that Uncommitted will win Detroit?

if the exit polls are anywhere close to correct there's no chance that it doesn't.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 08:12:09 pm
Is anyone else besides me thinking, that Uncommitted will win Detroit?

if the exit polls are anywhere close to correct there's no chance that it doesn't.

Does Michigan do things proportional by CD or proportional overall?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 08:13:27 pm
Is anyone else besides me thinking, that Uncommitted will win Detroit?

if the exit polls are anywhere close to correct there's no chance that it doesn't.

Does Michigan do things proportional by CD or proportional overall?
For the Republicans it is CD, not sure about the Democrats though.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 08:14:09 pm
Kucinich wont be allowed to join the debate in Nevada....I loled.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 08:14:36 pm
haha... I hope Uncommitted gives us a hilarious night.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 08:14:47 pm
Is anyone else besides me thinking, that Uncommitted will win Detroit?

if the exit polls are anywhere close to correct there's no chance that it doesn't.

Does Michigan do things proportional by CD or proportional overall?

with zero delegates it doesn't matter.  unless I'm misunderstanding what you're asking.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2008, 08:25:37 pm
ahahaha.

TOO CLOSE TO CALL!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 08:26:36 pm
ahahaha.

TOO CLOSE TO CALL!

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fox News just announced that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: agcatter on January 15, 2008, 08:27:10 pm
Holy sh**t!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 08:27:39 pm
HAHAHAH!

Awesome. ;D


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 08:29:28 pm
I can't wait to hear Uncommitted's Victory Speech!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 08:31:42 pm
Clinton 2,345 65%
 Uncommitted 1,000 28%
 Kucinich 181 5%
 Dodd 40 1%
 Gravel 17 1%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 08:33:08 pm
I can't wait to hear Uncommitted's Victory Speech!

we got the Silver!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 08:33:20 pm
Kucinich 181 5%

We are going to win this thing!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 08:34:39 pm
Clinton at 66% in Wayne County.  it's an extremely small fraction of the precincts, but if that continues, it makes that uncommitted rout of blacks as reported by the exit polls seem unlikely.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Flying Dog on January 15, 2008, 08:38:11 pm
Clinton at 66% in Wayne County.  it's an extremely small fraction of the precincts, but if that continues, it makes that uncommitted rout of blacks as reported by the exit polls seem unlikely.

Wayne county is kinda segregated, so it could be an all white precinct.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 08:40:13 pm
You know, even though only 2% is in, you'd think they would have called it by now. They call Kentucky, Indiana and Vermont immediately on general election night, and those states are much closer than you'd think Michigan would be. Unless Clinton is really screwed.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 08:40:36 pm
Perhaps it was just another exit poll snafu after all... I'd be happy if Clinton was just held under 65% anyway.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2008, 08:42:36 pm
You know, even though only 2% is in, you'd think they would have called it by now. They call Kentucky, Indiana and Vermont immediately on general election night, and those states are much closer than you'd think Michigan would be. Unless Clinton is really screwed.

After the 2000 debacle, didn't all the networks agree to not call any states until after the polls are closed statewide?  There are still some polls open in the central timezone.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Reluctant Republican on January 15, 2008, 08:45:26 pm
Uncommitted is apparently doing very well amongst Blacks according to Fox, so who knows, maybe it can pull a bit closer.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 08:45:46 pm
Clinton at 92% in Chippewa County. Weird.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 08:46:57 pm
Wooh!!!! Go Kucinich and Uncommitted!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 08:48:20 pm
Clinton at 92% in Chippewa County. Weird.

There seem to be some counties, particularly in the UP, where no Uncommitted votes were recorded at all. The campaign seems to have reached some areas and not others.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 08:48:27 pm
Clinton 15,227 62%
 Uncommitted 7,755 32%
 Kucinich 988 4%
 Dodd 237 1%
 Gravel 136 1%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 08:49:38 pm
Clinton at 92% in Chippewa County. Weird.

There seem to be some counties, particularly in the UP, where no Uncommitted votes were recorded at all. The campaign seems to have reached some areas and not others.

Still? Doesn't anyone there pay any attention to the news?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 08:49:43 pm
It might be a good night for Kucinich (by his standards at least).


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Scott Inman (D) OK Gov 2018 on January 15, 2008, 08:49:57 pm
Why was the Republican thread locked?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 08:50:01 pm
Clinton at 92% in Chippewa County. Weird.

There seem to be some counties, particularly in the UP, where no Uncommitted votes were recorded at all. The campaign seems to have reached some areas and not others.
I would say that in the UP not many would vote for Obama in a normal election. Edwards might even beat out Obama in most UP areas.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 08:52:55 pm
Clinton 19,857 62%
 Uncommitted 10,565 33%
 Kucinich 1,247 4%
 Dodd 309 1%
 Gravel 167 0%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 15, 2008, 08:53:17 pm
Why was the Republican thread locked?

I PMed Verily.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 08:56:07 pm
7% reporting:

Clinton 25,866 62%
 Uncommitted 13,524 33%
 Kucinich 1,574 4%
 Dodd 376 1%
 Gravel 209 0%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 08:56:14 pm
Clinton at 92% in Chippewa County. Weird.

There seem to be some counties, particularly in the UP, where no Uncommitted votes were recorded at all. The campaign seems to have reached some areas and not others.
I would say that in the UP not many would vote for Obama in a normal election. Edwards might even beat out Obama in most UP areas.

The latter, probably, but Obama would still have managed 15-20% in the UP counties (with Edwards at more like 20-25%). That doesn't account for the abnormally low Uncommitted votes there, only uninformed voters do.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:04:18 pm
I like that CNN calls the Republicans before the Democrats. ;D


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:04:55 pm
I like that CNN calls the Republicans before the Democrats. ;D
UNCOMITTED LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Sam Spade on January 15, 2008, 09:05:25 pm
At least now I can get something to eat.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 15, 2008, 09:05:29 pm
Clinton's at 62% and they still refuse to call it?

Do they know something that we don't?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:06:57 pm
Clinton's at 62% and they still refuse to call it?

Do they know something that we don't?
As it turns out Zombies ate all the other Hillary voters in the state.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 09:08:48 pm
Maybe they just don't see a need to call it.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 09:09:14 pm
Fox called it for Clinton but I still expect it to get a little closer and it's already closer than most people expected I think. :)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:09:29 pm
They just called it....
Oh well, we all knew it wouldn't last.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:09:55 pm
DAMN YOU CNN!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: TCash101 on January 15, 2008, 09:10:49 pm
Clinton's at 62% and they still refuse to call it?

Do they know something that we don't?

That we might turn off the TV if they call it?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 15, 2008, 09:15:08 pm
CNN's exit poll shows Clinton winning 47% of men and 58% of women.  They also have:

whites:
Clinton 61%
uncommitted 30%

blacks
uncommitted 70%
Clinton 26%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 09:17:09 pm
15% reporting

Clinton 52,219 61%
 Uncommitted 28,385 33%
 Kucinich 3,427 4%
 Dodd 696 1%
 Gravel 409 1%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 09:17:29 pm
CNN's exit poll shows Clinton winning 47% of men and 58% of women.  They also have:

whites:
Clinton 61%
uncommitted 30%

blacks
uncommitted 70%
Clinton 26%


It should get a lot closer then unless the exit polls were way off.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 09:19:16 pm
The CNN exit poll also suggests that the result would have been reasonably close with Obama and Edwards on the ballot:

Clinton: 45
Obama: 37
Edwards: 12
Kucinich: 2
Rchardson: 1

(Of course, this is skewed by turnout and a lack of campaigning by all involved.)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: cp on January 15, 2008, 09:20:40 pm
They just called it now.

Anything above 60% is a victory for Clinton. The polls only had her in the mid-50s and without Obama or Edwards on the ticket it's pretty much impossible for them to get any part of the news cycle to themselves.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 09:25:54 pm
Clinton 79,492 60%
 Uncommitted 44,810 34%
 Kucinich 5,416 4%
 Dodd 1,065 1%
 Gravel 644 1%

23% reporting


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 09:27:01 pm
As long as she continues to dip...im fine with the results. :)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 09:29:25 pm
Clinton 82,991 60%
 Uncommitted 46,946 34%
 Kucinich 5,586 4%
 Dodd 1,099 1%
 Gravel 669 1%

24% reporting


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:38:10 pm
UNCOMMITTED TAKES EMMET COUNTY!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:41:07 pm
UNCOMMITTED TAKES EMMET COUNTY!
UNCOMMITTED SURGE!!!!!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 09:43:13 pm
UNCOMMITTED TAKES EMMET COUNTY!

:D

But why Emmet County? I would have expected Wayne County, and maybe Washtenaw and Ingham Counties, but why Emmet?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:45:07 pm
UNCOMMITTED TAKES EMMET COUNTY!

:D

But why Emmet County? I would have expected Wayne County, and maybe Washtenaw and Ingham Counties, but why Emmet?
I think Ann Arbor is there, which has Michigan University. I think...


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 09:46:14 pm
No, Emmet County is at the far north end of the LP. Washtenaw County is Ann Arbor and UMich (and Ingham County is East Lansing, where MSU is).


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: War on Want on January 15, 2008, 09:46:39 pm
No, Emmet County is at the far north end of the LP. Washtenaw County is Ann Arbor (and Ingham County is East Lansing, where MSU is).
Oh. I got confused.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:47:25 pm
Emmet county is 95% white with a population of 35,000. No idea why uncommitted did so well there.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 09:48:23 pm
Uncommitted continues to move up...


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:49:19 pm
Clinton's below 60%!

Well, there goes my prediction. :P


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: JohnnyLongtorso on January 15, 2008, 09:49:55 pm
Poor Mike Gravel. He can't even finish above the dropped-out Chris Dodd.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 09:50:47 pm
Clinton's below 60%!

Well, there goes my prediction. :P

Getting very close to mine though! :)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 09:53:14 pm
Clinton 137,931 59%
 Uncommitted 84,532 36%
 Kucinich 9,994 4%
 Dodd 1,719 1%
 Gravel 1,066 0%

43% reporting


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 09:53:47 pm
Pretty sure im loving it currently.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 15, 2008, 09:58:39 pm
Pretty sad performance by Clinton.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 09:59:28 pm
I love me some Edwards.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 10:00:05 pm
Uncommitted leads Washtenaw County. Wayne County still looks very oddly unlike the exit poll, though the 34% may be almost exclusively white areas.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: MarkWarner08 on January 15, 2008, 10:01:20 pm
2/5 of Democrats have rejected Hillary Clinton when she was pitted against an eighty year old man and a dwarf. Not good news for Hilldawg.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: ottermax on January 15, 2008, 10:06:30 pm
One good thing is that they didn't even mention the results on the evening news for the Dems. If the media made much noise about it, people would probably take it the wrong way and think that Clinton had actually won sixty percent of the vote without understanding the background.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Trilobyte on January 15, 2008, 10:07:13 pm
Knew it. Everyone is reading the totally meaningless results as some kind of rejection of Hillary Clinton.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: MarkWarner08 on January 15, 2008, 10:09:01 pm
Hillary won only 26% of blacks. That augurs poorly for her SC performance.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 10:11:27 pm
Wayne County tightened substantially with the most recent 14% in (from something like 63-32 to 53-42), so it may in the end reflect the exit poll. Clinton has probably won Ingham County, unless East Lansing isn't in at all or something.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Flying Dog on January 15, 2008, 10:14:47 pm
If uncommitted gets above 40% I'll be happy.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on January 15, 2008, 10:22:36 pm
If only blacks had voted:

Uncommitted 70
Clinton 26

Now, that would have been Hillary-ious


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 10:24:57 pm
Clinton 208,061 58%
 Uncommitted 131,421 37%
 Kucinich 14,488 4%
 Dodd 2,526 1%
 Gravel 1,597 0%

65% reporting - I noticed she also lost Washtenaw Co. too.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 10:25:49 pm
Go uncommited Go!


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 10:27:00 pm
Clinton 208,061 58%
 Uncommitted 131,421 37%
 Kucinich 14,488 4%
 Dodd 2,526 1%
 Gravel 1,597 0%

65% reporting - I noticed she also lost Washtenaw Co. too.

Unless you know something I don't, Washtenaw is only 47% in, though Uncommitted does indeed lead.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: tweed on January 15, 2008, 10:32:16 pm
uncommitted leads in Emmet and Washtenaw Counties.  it's up to 44% in Wayne County.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 11:01:28 pm
Clinton 208,061 58%
 Uncommitted 131,421 37%
 Kucinich 14,488 4%
 Dodd 2,526 1%
 Gravel 1,597 0%

65% reporting - I noticed she also lost Washtenaw Co. too.

Unless you know something I don't, Washtenaw is only 47% in, though Uncommitted does indeed lead.

It was a big lead when I saw it.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 11:02:04 pm
Clinton 259,898 57%
 Uncommitted 175,707 38%
 Kucinich 17,701 4%
 Dodd 3,119 1%
 Gravel 1,919 0%

81% reporting


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 15, 2008, 11:02:35 pm
83% reporting, and Clinton's lead is down to 17%, 56-39.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 11:04:34 pm
If it hits 40% I will be VERY pleased.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 15, 2008, 11:05:45 pm
If it hits 40% I will be VERY pleased.

It may well; almost all of what's left is from counties where Uncommitted is over 40%.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2008, 11:18:19 pm
Not only that, but several counties (Dickinson, Houghton, Otsego and Wexford) are not reporting uncommitted returns.  They're all small, but might together be enough to bump it over 40% as it is.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Lief 🐋 on January 15, 2008, 11:19:36 pm
What's the deal with Clare and Kalkaska?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2008, 11:21:41 pm
What's the deal with Clare and Kalkaska?

It's pretty standard as election returns go.

In 2004, I believe there were a small handful of counties that hadn't reported by the next morning.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: villainsaff on January 15, 2008, 11:22:25 pm
Whats the website where we can see the returns?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on January 15, 2008, 11:23:42 pm
Apparently there were about 20 counties that had computer systems that wouldn't count Uncommitted.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 15, 2008, 11:33:33 pm
Apparently there were about 20 counties that had computer systems that wouldn't count Uncommitted.

Is that...legal?  Will it be fixed or are we going to not get full results from those counties (LAME)?

It's going to be a close race in Wayne County and for Undecided to break 40%.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 15, 2008, 11:40:06 pm
94% Reporting
      
Clinton   303,636                       55%
Uncommitted   217,374   40%
Kucinich   20,514    4%   
Dodd   3,595                           1%   
Gravel   2,237                           0%   


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on January 15, 2008, 11:40:57 pm
Wow, Clinton leads Uncommitted only 55-40. Not much of a win there.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 15, 2008, 11:55:59 pm
Clinton 306,395 55%
 Uncommitted 221,374 40%
 Kucinich 20,771 4%
 Dodd 3,626 1%
 Gravel 2,251 0%

94% reporting


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 16, 2008, 12:16:33 am
Apparently there were about 20 counties that had computer systems that wouldn't count Uncommitted.

Is that...legal?  Will it be fixed or are we going to not get full results from those counties (LAME)?

It's going to be a close race in Wayne County and for Undecided to break 40%.

I don't know if it's legal. I could see their results being thrown out if someone challenges them in court.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Meeker on January 16, 2008, 12:31:32 am
They say that they managed to fix it... in most of them... they think.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Beet on January 16, 2008, 12:34:45 am
Well it looks like the African-American vote went heavily for Obama after this past week's absurd racial drama, which ironically ended today.
Other than the race factor Clinton did better among lower income people, women, poorer people, married people, and older people.
The exit polls show Clinton still would have won had both Obama and Edwards been on the ballot though, 45-37 over Obama.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 16, 2008, 12:37:57 am
Washtenaw's all in; Uncommitted won 46-44. Surprisingly close race in Kent County (Grand Rapids) as well, though it's all in and voted for Clinton.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: CultureKing on January 16, 2008, 12:41:42 am
wow, Clinton lost two counties, Emmet and Washtenaw.

wow.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 16, 2008, 12:42:19 am
Well it looks like the African-American vote went heavily for Obama after this past week's absurd racial drama, which ironically ended today.
Other than the race factor Clinton did better among lower income people, women, poorer people, married people, and older people.
The exit polls show Clinton still would have won had both Obama and Edwards been on the ballot though, 45-37 over Obama.

...which means if Obama didn't anger people by pulling his name off the ballot and campaigned there he would have slaughtered her.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 16, 2008, 12:42:59 am
They say that they managed to fix it... in most of them... they think.

Democracy lives in America.

Mostly.

I think.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 16, 2008, 12:43:34 am
wow, Clinton lost two counties, Emmet and Washtenaw.

wow.

She may lose Wayne County, too, if the remaining 8% is from mostly black areas. (And there's always the chance one or both of the two sluggard counties went crazy the way Emmet did.)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 16, 2008, 12:47:18 am
They say that they managed to fix it... in most of them... they think.

Democracy lives in America.

Mostly.

I think.

Three counties did not fix it: Houghton, Otsego and Wexford. Democracy is in ill health.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 16, 2008, 12:49:02 am
Well, in looking at the results (I just got home), that's a surprise; for once I called a state correctly. :P  (Clinton 50% in Michigan)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 16, 2008, 12:51:43 am
50.3% Clinton in Wayne County.  Booo.

Looks like Uncommitted will narrowly miss 40%.

Kalkaska County is still out, a few precincts in Livingston County, and that's it.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Verily on January 16, 2008, 12:52:45 am
Clare County made its belated appearance as well; strongly for Clinton. All that's left now are Kalkaska County and a handful of votes from Livingston County.

I'm still wondering what happened in Emmet County.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 16, 2008, 12:53:55 am
Clare County made its belated appearance as well; strongly for Clinton.

Yeah, and Kalaska will secure Uncommitted <40%.  Probably will be pretty close on the GOP side.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 16, 2008, 01:10:27 am
50.3% Clinton in Wayne County.  Booo.

Looks like Uncommitted will narrowly miss 40%.

Kalkaska County is still out, a few precincts in Livingston County, and that's it.

As long as it rounds up, we are good.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Eraserhead on January 16, 2008, 01:16:06 am
Politico on Clinton's weak showing.



http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Michigan_results.html


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Јas on January 16, 2008, 05:04:14 am
Michigan Democratic Primary Results    

Precincts: 100%
Source: AP 

Candidate Votes %
Hillary Clinton  328,151 55%
Uncommitted  236,723 40%
Dennis Kucinich  21,708 4%
Chris Dodd  3,853 1%
Mike Gravel  2,363 0%


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 16, 2008, 05:14:18 am
Gravel broke 1% in some counties :)


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 16, 2008, 05:15:02 am
Gravel broke 1% in some counties :)

I still think that people should have backed him instead of "uncommitted". :P


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Bacon! 🔥 on January 16, 2008, 07:28:00 am
Wexford and Otsego look likme thy're still having the computer problem- no uncommited votes in either county.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Alcon on January 16, 2008, 10:17:46 am
So...

What's Emmet County about?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 16, 2008, 11:46:18 am
So...

What's Emmet County about?

Isn't it one of those filled with old rich Republicans? So presumably what Democrats there are are mostly in the service industry?

Just a guess and probably badly wrong.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Nym90 on January 18, 2008, 11:56:37 pm
So...

What's Emmet County about?

Isn't it one of those filled with old rich Republicans? So presumably what Democrats there are are mostly in the service industry?

Just a guess and probably badly wrong.

Actually pretty spot on in the demographics.

But yeah, it is odd to see it vote for Uncommitted when none of the other similar counties such as Grand Traverse did; although Grand Traverse has more industrial presence than Emmett, so that may be it.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 19, 2008, 12:32:00 am
Apparently there were about 20 counties that had computer systems that wouldn't count Uncommitted.

Is that...legal?  Will it be fixed or are we going to not get full results from those counties (LAME)?

It's going to be a close race in Wayne County and for Undecided to break 40%.

I don't know if it's legal. I could see their results being thrown out if someone challenges them in court.

No - it's absolutely NOT legal.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 19, 2008, 07:41:05 am
Actually pretty spot on in the demographics.

:)

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But yeah, it is odd to see it vote for Uncommitted when none of the other similar counties such as Grand Traverse did; although Grand Traverse has more industrial presence than Emmett, so that may be it.

Maybe there are more Catholics in Grand Traverse? Btw, any idea why Kucinich did so well in Leelanau and Benzie counties?


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on January 19, 2008, 07:43:33 am
Also odd; in Delta county more people voted uncommitted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Gabu on January 19, 2008, 07:47:01 am
Also odd; in Delta county more people voted uncommitted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.

I believe I heard that was a mistake and that the totals were reversed.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Nym90 on January 19, 2008, 10:50:03 pm
Also odd; in Delta county more people voted uncommitted in the GOP primary than the Democratic one.

What Gabu said.

Actually pretty spot on in the demographics.

:)

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But yeah, it is odd to see it vote for Uncommitted when none of the other similar counties such as Grand Traverse did; although Grand Traverse has more industrial presence than Emmett, so that may be it.

Maybe there are more Catholics in Grand Traverse? Btw, any idea why Kucinich did so well in Leelanau and Benzie counties?

Probably on Grand Traverse. As to Kucinich's success, no clue there.....both counties are pretty heavy tourist/recreational areas with service based economies, fairly wealthy/retired areas as to the residents themselves. Maybe just one of those cases of a low sample size resulting in odd results.


Title: Re: Official Michigan Democratic Primary Results Thread
Post by: Nym90 on January 19, 2008, 10:51:06 pm
Gravel broke 1% in some counties :)

I still think that people should have backed him instead of "uncommitted". :P

Hah. I considered it, but voted Uncommitted due to my desire for Obama to win.