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Title: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 08:29:40 pm
They're getting close to matching the check that Bill wrote for Hillary.

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Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:30:19 pm
I feel quite sick at both facts.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 06, 2008, 08:30:28 pm
Hahaha, smart on the Obama campaign.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 06, 2008, 08:31:03 pm
Why does the involvement of ordinary people in politics make you sick?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 08:31:25 pm
Plus the 2.2 Million from yeterday.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 08:32:00 pm
Plus the 2.2 Million from yeterday.

Oh, this might be including that.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:33:24 pm
Why does the involvement of ordinary people in politics make you sick?

Because this is not the involvement of ordinary people in politics. This is the domination of politics by Mammon.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 06, 2008, 08:34:00 pm
Why does the involvement of ordinary people in politics make you sick?

Because this is not the involvement of ordinary people in politics. This is the domination of politics by Mammon.
Mammon supplied by ordinary people...


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 08:35:25 pm
Taking advantage of Hillary's cash crunch is a smart move on the part of Obama's campaign - I've always said that her campaign relied on her being an inevitable juggernaut. Pointing out she has to use her personal money and that he has managed to raise almost as much in a day or two puts a serious dent in that image.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 08:35:47 pm
Just donated $20 bucks. :)


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: MarkWarner08 on February 06, 2008, 08:37:34 pm
Why does the involvement of ordinary people in politics make you sick?

Because this is not the involvement of ordinary people in politics. This is the domination of politics by Mammon.
Do you support government funded elections?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:38:18 pm
Why does the involvement of ordinary people in politics make you sick?

Because this is not the involvement of ordinary people in politics. This is the domination of politics by Mammon.
Mammon supplied by ordinary people...

I'm not sure how manipulating people's emotions in order to get at their wallets is a good thing.
Though a sociological study (a proper one, not a normal sociological study) of the sort of people who throw their money in the general direction of American politicians would be interesting to see.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:39:34 pm
Do you support government funded elections?

No. I support extremely strict spending caps.

The concern is how much money is spent rather than where it comes from (though after a certain point the two become hard to tell apart).


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 08:41:38 pm

Just did $25 myself. :)


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: 8 out of 11 is not deserved on February 06, 2008, 08:42:33 pm
$100 more just now


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Alcon on February 06, 2008, 08:45:38 pm
I'm tempted...


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:46:17 pm

Why? (serious question)


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 08:48:07 pm

Contempt of Hillary Clinton + likability of Barack Obama (and positions) = $$$


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: 8 out of 11 is not deserved on February 06, 2008, 08:50:02 pm
Here is why.  All the other politician's get their money from Lobbyists and PAC's.  Except for Obama.  Funded by people who want to see change


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 06, 2008, 08:54:42 pm

Contempt of Hillary Clinton + likability of Barack Obama (and positions) = $$$

But, as the title of this thread makes clear, he has rather a lot of money already. Why give even more?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Alcon on February 06, 2008, 08:55:15 pm

As much as I'm aware that I'm funding a uselessly capitalistic system of "democracy," I'm also aware that it isn't going away in my lifetime.

And I really don't particularly care for Hillary Clinton, and Obama is a decent man, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

I was thinking like $20 to increase his donor numbers more than anything, but I doubt I'll do it.  I'd like to keep 100% of my political donations jokingly spiteful, since I'm one-for-one on that.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 08:58:25 pm

Contempt of Hillary Clinton + likability of Barack Obama (and positions) = $$$

But, as the title of this thread makes clear, he has rather a lot of money already. Why give even more?

Contributing to the movement. I know kind of cheesy but I'm a sucker for this kind of stuff. Plus, I want to see Obama school Hillary in fund raising by even more than January.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 08:59:35 pm

Good... Gooood... Give in to the dark side.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: perdedor on February 06, 2008, 09:09:32 pm
This is hilarious, considering that Clinton's reasoning behind the cash injection was the financial edge of her opponent.  What this really shows is that, regardless of what she does, she can not compete financially with Barack Obama.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 09:37:40 pm
I can't think of any good way of responding to this in words, so I will give this picture instead:

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Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 09:48:31 pm
What was Ron Paul's record, because it's next.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 09:49:36 pm

I don't know, but you're gonna need to update your headline.  They've now crested $5.1 million.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 09:50:33 pm

I don't know, but you're gonna need to update your headline.  They've now crested $5.1 million.

Holy Sh!t


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 10:00:35 pm
So far since the Feb 5th contests:

Obama: 5.1 Million

Clinton: 1.3 million


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: MarkWarner08 on February 06, 2008, 10:01:32 pm
So far since the Feb 5th contests:

Obama: 5.1 Million

Clinton: 1.3 million
$1.3M is good news for Hillary.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Verily on February 06, 2008, 10:04:19 pm
$5.3M. What was Paul's record? Anything attainable?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 06, 2008, 10:05:14 pm
So, in 24 hours, Obama was able to cancel out Clinton's donation, which was about 10% of her networth? Awesome.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 10:06:55 pm
$5.3M. What was Paul's record? Anything attainable?

"Nearly $6 million"


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 10:07:44 pm

That looks easily breakable at this rate.  The man has literally raised like $400,000 in the last half hour.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 10:09:12 pm

That looks easily breakable at this rate.  The man has literally raised like $400,000 in the last half hour.

$900K in the last 100 minutes.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 10:11:56 pm
Up to 5.3 Million.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 10:13:23 pm
Over $1 million since I posted this thread.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 10:13:57 pm

Actually, almost 5.4 million now.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Bacon King on February 06, 2008, 10:15:24 pm
Ten dollars from me.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 10:16:25 pm
By the way, the media isn't ignoring Hillary's $5 million "loan" to her own campaign, and I'm certain this will hit the media outlets tomorrow adding to the pain.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Smash255 on February 06, 2008, 10:27:56 pm
$125 from me


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 10:29:08 pm
$5.5 million


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 10:29:53 pm
Something like $1.14 million in the last 2 hours.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Smash255 on February 06, 2008, 10:44:25 pm
$5.6  million and counting


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 10:46:24 pm
I think people would have called anyone crazy who claimed in July of 2007 that as of February 2008 Obama would be raising $30 million a month while Clinton would be having to reach into her own pocket to fund her campaign.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Aizen on February 06, 2008, 10:47:34 pm
hillary clinton more like hillary mittromneyclinton


you can't buy the election you stupid b*tchcracker


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Meeker on February 06, 2008, 10:48:24 pm
Is there some ticker we can watch the money roll in Ron Paul style?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 10:48:49 pm
I think people would have called anyone crazy who claimed in July of 2007 that as of February 2008 Obama would be raising $30 million a month while Clinton would be having to reach into her own pocket to fund her campaign.

I would have been one of them, too.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 06, 2008, 10:49:24 pm
hillary clinton more like hillary mittromneyclinton


you can't buy the election you stupid b*tchcracker

Sure you can, you just need $30 million a month like Obama is getting. ;D


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 10:49:27 pm
I think people would have called anyone crazy who claimed in July of 2007 that as of February 2008 Obama would be raising $30 million a month while Clinton would be having to reach into her own pocket to fund her campaign.

I would have been one of them, too.

As would I.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Smash255 on February 06, 2008, 10:51:05 pm
Is there some ticker we can watch the money roll in Ron Paul style?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/CGGpp

doesn't update after every donation, but does update a bit.  The whole site right now seems to be getting slammed right now, so it might be a little slow to load


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: gmo on February 06, 2008, 10:51:41 pm
Is Obama's campaign manager Jerry Lewis?  Do we need a tote board?

Obama's Kids Election Day Telethon  -  "If you can just spare a few dollars you could be us find a cure for partisanship.  So please pick up the phone.  Next up, the National Firefighters Associations with their check from their 'Fill the Boot for Barack' campaign!"


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 10:52:31 pm
Obama has surpassed 5.6 million


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 10:53:08 pm
Is there some ticker we can watch the money roll in Ron Paul style?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/CGGpp

doesn't update after every donation, but does update a bit.  The whole site right now seems to be getting slammed right now, so it might be a little slow to load

You mean the image I put in the first post of this thread?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Meeker on February 06, 2008, 10:58:11 pm
He's raising like $100,000 every 10 or 15 minutes. Wowza


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 06, 2008, 10:59:28 pm
$5.7 million now.

It's almost a sure thing that this number is going over $6 million before the night is done.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Angel of Death on February 06, 2008, 11:09:59 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 11:11:29 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.

Careful, she could be angling for the sympathy vote again.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 11:14:07 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.

Careful, she could be angling for the sympathy vote again.

I can see her pandering to poor people. See I'm poor just like you.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Verily on February 06, 2008, 11:15:22 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.

Careful, she could be angling for the sympathy vote again.

I can see her pandering to poor people. See I'm poor just like you.

Maybe she'll take out a sub-prime loan next :P


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Verily on February 06, 2008, 11:17:45 pm
$5.8M.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 06, 2008, 11:18:05 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.

Careful, she could be angling for the sympathy vote again.
"Hillary Clinton, a woman, is falling on hard times, like so many women across the county. Clinton, a woman, is being out-raised by a big, rich, penis-having man. I know women, women like me who is a woman, who also don't make as much money as their male co-workers. Won't you please help me, a woman, close the gap with the my sexist pig opponent, who has the support of sexist men across the country? With your help, I, a woman, can become President."


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 11:21:26 pm
Ron Paul raised 6.04 Million. BEAT HIM!!!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 06, 2008, 11:25:53 pm
The rate is slowing down.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Angel of Death on February 06, 2008, 11:28:06 pm
Hillary could be in real dire straits here. If the wheels of her campaign were to fall off due to financial problems, this would easily become the hugest collapse of all time, easily surpassing that of Rudy.

Careful, she could be angling for the sympathy vote again.

That would be too far-fetched even by her standards. Seriously, when this is over, people will wonder how she has managed to manage her campaign so horribly. If you intend to run mostly on being the "anointed crown princess", you're supposed to stay above the fray and try to grow a Teflon body in the process.

Bill is probably going to have to sleep on the couch until the heat death of the universe (if that wasn't already the case).

It also badly undermines the one important edge she had over Obama, namely how well she is perceived to be able to run the economy.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 11:28:34 pm
LOL@hillary

On Wednesday, she sent out an e-mail appeal to donors Wednesday seeking $3 million in three days an effort, that if successful, would match the fundraising rate Obama averaged for the entire month of January.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 06, 2008, 11:43:56 pm
5.9 Million


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Smash255 on February 06, 2008, 11:59:32 pm
BOOM $6.04 million & counting


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2008, 12:00:02 am

BARACK OBAMA RLOVEUTION


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: gmo on February 07, 2008, 12:01:27 am
Seriously, when this is over, people will wonder how she has managed to manage her campaign so horribly.
I have been wondering why Obama has destroyed Clinton in the caucus states.  I thought maybe she was just running on the inevitability things, looking to pile up delegates in the big races, and not worrying about the quibbling little details like building infrastructure across the country.  That seemed ridiculously cocky though.

Could there be a financial reason that we are seeing now?  But she had money earlier in the process.  Did Obama invest in a ground game and Clinton ... just blow it?  Seems peculiar.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2008, 12:02:52 am
Seriously, when this is over, people will wonder how she has managed to manage her campaign so horribly.
I have been wondering why Obama has destroyed Clinton in the caucus states.  I thought maybe she was just running on the inevitability things, looking to pile up delegates in the big races, and not worrying about the quibbling little details like building infrastructure across the country.  That seemed ridiculously cocky though.

Could there be a financial reason that we are seeing now?  But she had money earlier in the process.  Did Obama invest in a ground game and Clinton ... just blow it?  Seems peculiar.

Did Clinton even visit states like Idaho, Colorado, and Kansas?  I think she was basically just ignoring those, instead focusing on a "swing state strategy" like we saw from both people in 2004.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 07, 2008, 12:03:19 am
Obama beat the record set by Paul


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 07, 2008, 12:03:40 am
Seriously, when this is over, people will wonder how she has managed to manage her campaign so horribly.
I have been wondering why Obama has destroyed Clinton in the caucus states.  I thought maybe she was just running on the inevitability things, looking to pile up delegates in the big races, and not worrying about the quibbling little details like building infrastructure across the country.  That seemed ridiculously cocky though.

Could there be a financial reason that we are seeing now?  But she had money earlier in the process.  Did Obama invest in a ground game and Clinton ... just blow it?  Seems peculiar.
Also, I think that Clinton has run a stupidly expensive, consultant-heavy campaign. When these people, like Mark Penn, demand millions for their "service", while Obama, for that same money, was able to put up campaign offices in the caucus states.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Saff on February 07, 2008, 12:05:33 am
Could 10 million be a possibility?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2008, 12:06:40 am

Just today?  No.  It's slowing down quite a bit now.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 07, 2008, 12:07:01 am

Yea!! 10 million by saturday!!!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Aizen on February 07, 2008, 12:09:38 am
Will Clinton could spin this by saying it only took her a matter of seconds for her campaign funding to be increased by 5 million?


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 07, 2008, 12:09:57 am
$6.04 million, now breaking Ron Pauls record (although this is probably somewhat longer than 24 hours at this point). Next target: $8 million, break Clinton's $5 million loan PLUS her $3 million fundraising targer that she isn't saying how it's going (well, we only found out about last month's loan, she likes to keep everyone out of the loop).


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Smash255 on February 07, 2008, 12:11:50 am
$6.04 million, now breaking Ron Pauls record (although this is probably somewhat longer than 24 hours at this point). Next target: $8 million, break Clinton's $5 million loan PLUS her $3 million fundraising targer that she isn't saying how it's going (well, we only found out about last month's loan, she likes to keep everyone out of the loop).

the counter doesn't update right away so at this point we really can't say when exactly he cross the $6.04 million mark


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: ○∙◄☻tπ[╪AV┼cV└ on February 07, 2008, 12:13:02 am
$6.04 million, now breaking Ron Pauls record (although this is probably somewhat longer than 24 hours at this point). Next target: $8 million, break Clinton's $5 million loan PLUS her $3 million fundraising targer that she isn't saying how it's going (well, we only found out about last month's loan, she likes to keep everyone out of the loop).

the counter doesn't update right away so at this point we really can't say when exactly he cross the $6.04 million mark

It's now over $6.04 million. I think to have much more progress will have to wait for tomorrow.

EDIT: I spoke too soon, now over $6.1 million!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: The Mikado on February 07, 2008, 12:13:56 am
Do you support government funded elections?

No. I support extremely strict spending caps.

The concern is how much money is spent rather than where it comes from (though after a certain point the two become hard to tell apart).

Spending caps unconstitutional, Buckley v. Valeo.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Saff on February 07, 2008, 12:33:54 am
$6.04 million, now breaking Ron Pauls record (although this is probably somewhat longer than 24 hours at this point). Next target: $8 million, break Clinton's $5 million loan PLUS her $3 million fundraising targer that she isn't saying how it's going (well, we only found out about last month's loan, she likes to keep everyone out of the loop).

the counter doesn't update right away so at this point we really can't say when exactly he cross the $6.04 million mark

It's now over $6.04 million. I think to have much more progress will have to wait for tomorrow.

EDIT: I spoke too soon, now over $6.1 million!

Almost $6.2 DO ITTTTTTT!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lincoln Republican on February 07, 2008, 01:02:58 am
Perhaps fellow New Yorker Bloomberg could drop a cool $50 million into the Clinton for President coffers.  He could well afford it.

If Clinton becomes President, he would then be a sure bet for cabinet. 


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2008, 01:05:05 am
Perhaps fellow New Yorker Bloomberg could drop a cool $50 million into the Clinton for President coffers.  He could well afford it.

If Clinton becomes President, he would then be a sure bet for cabinet.

I support that idea wholeheartedly.  That would be a great way for Clinton to lose the nomination.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: MAS117 on February 07, 2008, 01:07:44 am
$6.27 million dollars in one day!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Verily on February 07, 2008, 01:22:09 am
Perhaps fellow New Yorker Bloomberg could drop a cool $50 million into the Clinton for President coffers.  He could well afford it.

If Clinton becomes President, he would then be a sure bet for cabinet.

I support that idea wholeheartedly.  That would be a great way for Clinton to lose the nomination.

If for no other reason than that it would be illegal (though of course it would harm her otherwise, too).


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2008, 01:26:14 am
It probably won't be study.  Fund raising tends to come in waves.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Verily on February 07, 2008, 01:28:36 am
It probably won't be study.  Fund raising tends to come in waves.

I, too, do not expect Obama to raise $180M over the course of February :P


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 07, 2008, 01:36:37 am
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton raises $3 million in the past 24 hours, and doubles her earlier call for $3 million over the next 72 hours to a whopping 6 million in the next 72 hours!

Sorry, Hill, been there, done that it seems. ;D


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Gabu on February 07, 2008, 01:44:41 am
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton raises $3 in the past 24 hours

Did she find some change on the ground? :D


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Lief 🐋 on February 07, 2008, 01:52:53 am
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton raises $3 in the past 24 hours

Did she find some change on the ground? :D
Fine, I'll type out the extra 7 letters. Jerks. :P


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Saff on February 07, 2008, 01:54:08 am
$6.4 mill....hes got the headline of media outlets across the country in the baggg


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Reignman on February 07, 2008, 01:55:01 am
The Spin War could not possibly be better for Obama right now.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Eraserhead on February 07, 2008, 01:59:40 am
Seriously, when this is over, people will wonder how she has managed to manage her campaign so horribly.
I have been wondering why Obama has destroyed Clinton in the caucus states.  I thought maybe she was just running on the inevitability things, looking to pile up delegates in the big races, and not worrying about the quibbling little details like building infrastructure across the country.  That seemed ridiculously cocky though.

Could there be a financial reason that we are seeing now?  But she had money earlier in the process.  Did Obama invest in a ground game and Clinton ... just blow it?  Seems peculiar.

Did Clinton even visit states like Idaho, Colorado, and Kansas?  I think she was basically just ignoring those, instead focusing on a "swing state strategy" like we saw from both people in 2004.

I think they did put some actual effort into Colorado, with both Clintons visiting the state.... but they pretty much ignord the other two you mentioned. I doubt they expected to be beat quite as badly as they were in them though.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 07, 2008, 07:13:58 am
This thread really is a wonderful example of American politics at its worst.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 07, 2008, 09:19:15 am
Just FYI, the ticker has passed $7 million.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Sam Spade on February 07, 2008, 10:28:57 am
A Clinton aide said they raised $4 million yesterday.  Just FYI.  Of course, as Mitt Romney found out, money don't buy votes.  We'll see in this situation...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clintons_4_million.html


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 07, 2008, 10:35:39 am
Obama's at 7.35 million now.

Anywho, Hillary raising $4 million is certainly good for her campaign, but the question is whether she can keep it up. That she had to loan $5 mil from her own purse probably encouraged her supporters to donate to try to make up for it, but it also energized the Obama supporters into donating as well. Even with a fundraising disadvantage Hillary can still be formidable, but again she has to at least get enough donations to stay competitive.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2008, 05:39:29 pm
A Clinton aide said they raised $4 million yesterday.  Just FYI.  Of course, as Mitt Romney found out, money don't buy votes.  We'll see in this situation...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clintons_4_million.html

It's now up to $7,000,000 + in 30 hours, exclusive of her $5 million.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 07, 2008, 05:42:29 pm
She spent the 5 Million on super tuesday contests. It came out after-the-fact.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2008, 05:43:59 pm
She spent the 5 Million on super tuesday contests. It came out after-the-fact.

Still exclusive of the $5 Million.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 07, 2008, 05:57:01 pm
Obama has at least raised over 8.5 Million since ST (Probably more than 9) If you factor in the MoveOn.org donations. 400k. since ST.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: J. J. on February 07, 2008, 06:03:23 pm
Obama has at least raised over 8.5 Million since ST (Probably more than 9) If you factor in the MoveOn.org donations. 400k. since ST.

It's not over, by a long shot.  Clinton's was just 30 hours.


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Flying Dog on February 07, 2008, 06:08:17 pm
I do have to give Clinton props if the claims are true. They only raised 1.5 million between Feb 1-4


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on February 07, 2008, 06:22:18 pm
...my dad is taller than your dad...


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Jens on February 07, 2008, 07:05:33 pm
:D spot on, Al!


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: John Dibble on February 07, 2008, 08:15:54 pm

...my dad is taller than your dad AND he pays his campaign staff... ;)


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Saff on February 07, 2008, 08:20:37 pm
As of Feb 7th....318,679 donors have donated so far. Their goal is to reach 500,000 by March 4th.....O_o


Title: Re: Obama campaign has raised $4.4 million today
Post by: Edgar Suit Larry on February 07, 2008, 08:42:34 pm
That's a lot of people. We are like an indestructable hive!!!