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Title: west va vs. virginia
Post by: WalterMitty on March 26, 2008, 10:45:21 AM
option 1 (sane)


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: exopolitician on March 26, 2008, 10:46:59 AM
I wont pick either, since this poll was made up just to degrate those who think Obama has a decent shot at Virginia and because you dont think so, makes them insane.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: jesmo on March 26, 2008, 10:47:37 AM
Clinton winning WV is far more likely to happen. Obama will lose 45 of the 50 states, Clinton will win 42 of the 50.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: elcorazon on March 26, 2008, 10:48:37 AM
clinton has nearly no shot in w.va.  obama has some chance in va.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 26, 2008, 10:50:54 AM
Clinton winning WV is a much surer thing that Virginia flipping to Obama. In fact, she'll win WV if she's the nominee. That is a Democratic state locally. They just disagreed with Kerry on social issues  and gun laws. The Clinton's are viewed very favorably there. Obama's race will inhibit him from breaking 40% in WV.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 26, 2008, 10:55:47 AM
Option one, of course.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Joe Republic on March 26, 2008, 10:57:21 AM
Clinton winning WV is far more likely to happen. Obama will lose 45 of the 50 states, Clinton will win 42 of the 50.

You're still here?  Hmm... that's interesting...


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Sam Spade on March 26, 2008, 11:07:20 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: WalterMitty on March 26, 2008, 11:14:12 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.

well you can bet your ass on one thing.

if obama doesnt win va...it will be because of 'racism'.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: ChrisFromNJ on March 26, 2008, 11:30:33 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.

well you can bet your ass on one thing.

if obama doesnt win va...it will be because of 'racism'.

Who has said that?


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Brittain33 on March 26, 2008, 11:32:21 AM

Eh, if Obama does well in NoVa but gets trounced in Appalachia and the Southside, it will be said and with good reason.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: TomC on March 26, 2008, 11:46:46 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.

well you can bet your ass on one thing.

if obama doesnt win va...it will be because of 'racism'.

Who has said that?

Some Obama supporter somewhere said it, so we all must believe it because we are mindless vessels of the obamassiah.

OR

Some unnamed Clinton supporters are princesses who prefer to insult people in broad strokes rather than directly, so that when the insult is returned, "they" can say "People are personally attacking me." "All you little obama supporters" isn't a personal insult. It's an easy way to avoid direct confrontation.

Chris, if you want to debate a Hillary hack, stick with someone with a blue avatar. They've at least got the balls to address the people they disagree with.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: jesmo on March 26, 2008, 11:48:49 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.

well you can bet your ass on one thing.

if obama doesnt win va...it will be because of 'racism'.

Who has said that?

Some Obama supporter somewhere said it, so we all must believe it because we are mindless vessels of the obamassiah. (Of course anyone who says anything negative about Hillary is completely

OR

Some unnamed Clinton supporters are princesses who prefer to insult people in broad strokes rather than directly, so that when the insult is returned, "they" can say "People are personally attacking me." "All you little obama supporters" isn't a personal insult. It's an easy way to avoid direct confrontation.

Chris, if you want to debate a Hillary hack, stick with someone with a blue avatar. They've at least got the balls to address the people they disagree with.

I may not have a blue avatar, but I would be a Republican if it wasn't for two crucial issues. So Obamaniacs are welcome to debate with me. I am a Hillary Hack!


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: exopolitician on March 26, 2008, 11:52:37 AM
Naturally, I would choose the state that only voted Republican three times in between 1932-2000 to the state that hasn't voted Democrat since 1964 (and has voted Republican to the popular vote since 1948), but I'm not really normal.

well you can bet your ass on one thing.

if obama doesnt win va...it will be because of 'racism'.

Who has said that?

Some Obama supporter somewhere said it, so we all must believe it because we are mindless vessels of the obamassiah. (Of course anyone who says anything negative about Hillary is completely

OR

Some unnamed Clinton supporters are princesses who prefer to insult people in broad strokes rather than directly, so that when the insult is returned, "they" can say "People are personally attacking me." "All you little obama supporters" isn't a personal insult. It's an easy way to avoid direct confrontation.

Chris, if you want to debate a Hillary hack, stick with someone with a blue avatar. They've at least got the balls to address the people they disagree with.

I may not have a blue avatar, but I would be a Republican if it wasn't for two crucial issues. So Obamaniacs are welcome to debate with me. I am a Hillary Hack!

Im kinda curious how you think Clinton is going to be able to carry 42 of the 50 states in the General Election. I honestly dont know if you are being serious or just being ridiculously obnoxious.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: © tweed on March 26, 2008, 02:37:04 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: elcorazon on March 26, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election
no way.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: © tweed on March 26, 2008, 06:01:51 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election
no way.

uh-huh...  McCain is an awful fit for the state...  the main reason Obama won't win it is because he is a negro


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Daniel Adams on March 26, 2008, 06:59:36 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election
no way.
Yes, she would. Hillary has very strong support in West Virginia not only for the primary, but for the general as well. In elections where economic issues are very important West Virginia has a tendency to go Democratic (see 1988, 1992) and in 2008 the Democrats will definitely use the fear of recession in their campaign. Obama won't win WV because he doesn't appeal to working-class Democrats, which make up most of the WV Dem electorate, but Clinton doesn't have this problem. The few general election polls from West Virginia have Clinton defeating or tied with McCain, while Obama trails the GOP candidate.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on March 26, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
Tweed's right, but this poll is kind of pointless.


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 26, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election
no way.

uh-huh...  McCain is an awful fit for the state...  the main reason Obama won't win it is because he is a negro

Obama isn't a negro.

(and in any case a candidate like him would have some difficulties there even without his darkish tan)


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: © tweed on March 26, 2008, 08:38:10 PM
Clinton would win WV in anything vaguely resembling a 50-50 election
no way.

uh-huh...  McCain is an awful fit for the state...  the main reason Obama won't win it is because he is a negro

Obama isn't a negro.

he plays one on TV


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Lunar on March 26, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
What has the (white) female vote in WV looked like in the last few elections?


Title: Re: west va vs. virginia
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 26, 2008, 08:40:09 PM
Clinton wins WV at about 75%
Obama wins VA at about 35%