Talk Elections

The candidate cities will be known in June, and the host on October 2, 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics

Rio de Janeiro

Chicago

Chicago

I'm ethnocentric when it comes to Olympic cities.

I'm pulling for Rio, but wouldn't be deceived if Prague, Madrid, or Chicago got them.

I'm neutral on Doha, but I staunchly oppose Baku.

With London 2012, I can't see Prague or Madrid getting it in 2016 unless none of the other candidates are suitable.

Baku has no chance for a multiplicity of reasons.

I doubt Tokyo will get it.

Chicago will get it if nether Rio nor Doha prove suitable.

I think the IOC will want to wait and see how Brazil handles the 2014 World Cup first.

Doha has the inside track.  Money won't be a problem and the IOC likes to think that sports can somehow solve political problems.

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As for what I think would be the best venue, probably Madrid, but as I said, no way it gets it.

I think Doha is the most likely unless protests cause serious problems at the Beijing Olympics, in which case they'll go with the much politically safer Rio. Chicago might stand a chance as well, but Tokyo, Madrid and Prague all have the region problem. (Although, after thinking about it, Vancouver is in 2010, so that might hurt Chicago.)

Baku or Doha. Would love to see an Olympic Games in the Middle East.

Chicago, obviously.


It's not unprecedented to have the games on the same continent in such a small timespan:

Atlanta 1996 Salt Lake City 2002
Los Angeles 1984 Calgary 1988

I'd like for it to be in Chicago, but Rio or Tokyo would be cool.

Rio would be cool.  Thats probably the favorite too since its never been in South America and thats a more stable area than the Middle East.

Chicago, maybe then I could see some of them. :P

Chicago!!!

Though Doha would be cool.

Baku? LOL.

Doha, because I have a cousin there. Though Prague'd also be nice.

Not Chicago...I'm hoping Philly (i can dream) gets another shot soon, and that wont happen with a chi-town selection.

I've always wanted an Istanbul games.

I'm split between Prague and Tokyo, but Chicago will win.

It does matter... given their current track record, they will probably pick Pyongyang.

They are practically obliged to hold it every 20 years or so in the US. Asian and European cities are out - the Olympics would have been too recent. Everyone who thinks that Rio has a chance doesn't know what he's speaking.

Chicago will probably win, but i'd prefer Rio. Both South America and Africa have never hosted the games, they should be given the chance too. The same is true for the middle east btw, but i don't think Doha has any chance.

No, they'd pick Baku to keep in line with their track record of holding them in great democracies.

Rio or Madrid

Go Chicago!

After thinking, I change my vote to Doha.

If by which you mean countries that routinely seek to invade their neighbors using minor territorial disputes as pretext, then yes.

Chicago of course, but I'm sure Doha would be great with all the money they like to spend on buildings these days.

Rio would be cool: it's about time for the games to be held in South America. Plus politically it's the safest choice.

I'd like to see them in Prague, but I doubt they'll be held in Europe twice in a row.

Chicago would be nice too, but the US has had them enough: other countries should hae a chance to host them.

Doha and Baku are both very very unlikely for a whole host of reasons.

The next few olympics are about 90% planned out. 2020 will go to Cape Town, which means 2016 and 2024 have to go to 'wealthy' countries. Chicago will win in 2016 because Europe, Australia and Asia can't; Europe will probably host the 2024 games (One of: Paris, Berlin, Madrid, Rome, Amsterdam, Moscow) and Asia in 2028 (Tokyo, Osaka, maybe Singapore or a Middle Eastern city)[although Asia and Europe might swap 2024 and 2028) and 2032 will be South America-Santiago, Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo or Rio de Jeneiro. 2036 Is the Middle East if it didnt have the Asian games of 2028(/4?), otherwise it will be East Asian; 2040 will be North America, and then it's open again, with 2044 going to Europe or Australia and Oceania, and then no-one can really predict.

Winter Olympics throw a curve-ball into the mix, but they're not THAT important.

Whilst unlikely to be entirely correct, the most likely progression is this:

2000-Sydney, Australia, Australia and Oceania
2004-Athens, Greece, Europe
2008-Beijing, PR China, Asia (East, South and Southeast)
2012-London, United Kingdom, Europe
2016-Chicago, United States of America, North America
2020-Cape Town, South Africa, Africa
2024-Berlin, Germany, Europe
2028-Tokyo, Japan, Asia (East, South and Southeast)
2032-Rio de Jeneiro, Brazil, Latin America
2036-Istanbul, Turkey, Asia (Middle East)
2040-Toronto, Canada, North America
2044-Melbourne, Australia, Australia and OCeania
2048-Paris, France, Europe

(but everything after 2032 is really just guesswork)

Istanbul is not in Asia and not in the Middle East.

How hot is it in in Doha during August?

...sometimes.

It is, in these terms, at least Middle Eastern. The Asia question is harder to answer; Turkey for the most part is in Asia, but Istanbul is not.

Very hot probably (like everywhere in the Middle East). It's only possible to hold the olympics there in winter imho. According to wikipedia it's 104 F on average from May to September.

Why?
Where did you get the information that Cape Town will be awarded the 2020 olympics? Don't you think the 2010 World Championships play a role in this?

Cape Town is the only African city with a realistic chance, and 2020 is the best chance for Cape Town-South Africa will (hopefully) have recently held a successful World Cup, Cape Town will be well on the way to the needed infrastructure (and that infrastructure that exists will not be too old to be used in the Olympics) and the IOC is desperate to hold a games in Africa within the next cycle or two. Add the fact that North America, Europe and Asia will all have been 'satisfied' in the most recent summer Olympiads, plus probably in the winter Olympiads also, and every factor points to 2020 being THE year for a host city from Africa or South America, and as I said before, this is Africa's best shot.

I'd say it's at least an 80% likelihood, dependent on only two variables: 1. Where the 2016 games are held (which the 2020 contest will heavily influence) and 2. The success of the 2010 soccer WC. The only other variable even conceivable is a better bid from South America or somewhere else in Africa (the latter very unlikely unless another South African city, the former probable) which will affect voting, although rather than award the games to another Global South city, it will just delay the inevitable South African games.

The Summer Olympics were held in September-October in Sydney. I imagine they could deal with them being in May in Doha.

Even May is quite hot in Doha, plus there is the humidity.

Hugh, 2024?

The Olympics aren't coming back to Berlin for a LONG time.

They haven't been held there for a long time and as bad the memories from Nazism were they can't last forever.

Germany is an olympic powerhouse. It will get one of the next three European games, I I think it'll be the first.

Can't see an American city getting the bid when it's announced in 2009.

So for time zone reasons, Rio.

Even if it does go to Germany (which isn't unlikely), it'd be someplace like Cologne or Bremen.

Cologne, Leipzig, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Bonn, Bremen-all possible, for sure; but Berlin is the most likely imho.

I hope it comes back to Montreal :) so we can show off our great Olympic wastebasket again. And maybe, if they're lucky, the roof won't collapse on them :).

The Big O. :) DIdn't they take off the roof a few years back?

It is, actually. The western side is in Europe, but cross the Bosphorus and you'll find yourself in Asia. Istanbul is (AFAIK) the only city in the world that is placed across two continents.



I think Stuttgart is more likely, since it has a history of hosting sports events like the world athletics championships. Failing that, Hamburg or Frankfurt. I would add Munich to the equation were it not for the fact that its Olympic stadium is rather outdated (though of course they can always build a new one), and the Allianz-Arena is a football-only venue as far as I'm aware.

Obviously the 9 people who voted for Rio have never been anywhere near it....

If it must be held in SA then Buenos Aires is the only choice.

Santiago, Chile could host it, too, and Rio has PanAm experience, but I do tend to agree that the games would be better in BsAs (or Santiago) than one of the Brazilian cities.

Doha would be interesting.

It's bad enough when the entire swimming schedule is being mucked about to fit in with US prime time... so (as much as I love the place) no Chi-town.

Santiago is another city that could hold the games, but I'm not sure if the infrastructure is there. There would definitely have to be a lot of work done that wouldn't necessarily need to be done in BA. Kind of like the work that was needed in Salt Lake or Atlanta

Santiago has very westernised parts and very poor parts. It had a very good transportation system that could easily be modified for an olympics when I was there (in 2006) but apparently there are some major problems with the bus element atm. Other than that, it has a few venues but nothing much of olympic quality. It would certainly need 2 new stadiums and an aquatics center at the least. Valparaiso and Vina del Mar would also likely hold some events; I could easily see all the rowing/kayaking/sailing etc events over there, and probablyy something like boxing or gymnastics. It's less than an hour from the city by bus.