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Election Archive => 2008 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls => Topic started by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 21, 2008, 11:09:33 AM



Title: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 21, 2008, 11:09:33 AM
**Exclusive**

Controlled excitement is building inside of Clinton's inner circle as closely guarded internal polling shows the former first lady with an 11-point lead in Pennsylvania!

Clinton is polling near to nearly 2 to 1 over Obama in many regions of the state, a top insider explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.

A strong coalition of middle-class and religious voters has all but secured a Clinton victory Tuesday, with headline-making margins, the campaign believes.

"It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how much," a senior campaign source said Monday morning.

When pressed if the dramatic internal polling numbers could somehow be flawed in a state as demographically complex as Pennsylvania, and with new voter registration surging to unseen levels, the campaign insider held firm.

"Senator Obama would be wise not to unpack his bags quite yet."

MORE

With less than 24 hours to go until the beginning of the end of primary season voting, Obama has handedly captured Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, but has failed to dominate suburban sprawl, the campaign's polling reveals.

An 11-point victory in Pennsylvania for Clinton would expand on margins scored in Ohio.

Clinton will quickly move to feverishly focus on Indiana starting Tuesday night, hoping to somehow convince superdelegates that she not only has superior stamina but has crucial swing state appeal.

Without superdelegate intervention, Clinton still faces impossible math to nomination.

Developing...

http://drudgereport.com/flashpa.htm


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: agcatter on April 21, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
This is BS for the following reasons:

1)  The last thing Hillary needs is to build expectations.  Raise the bar of expectations?  Absolutely not.

2)  An effort to suppress Obama turnout?  That makes no sense either.  Obamamaniacs can't wait to vote and will vote regardless.

Campaigns don't release their internals.  Someone has an agenda in putting this stuff out - perhaps an Obama mole in the Hillary campaign.  This doesn't pass the smell test.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Aizen on April 21, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
Yeah, that would be a bit odd to raise expectations like that. Although 11 points seems reasonable, that's a 55-44 win for Clinton.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Alcon on April 21, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
Clinton folks "categorically deny" this "obvious effort to raise our expectations by somebody" and say they didn't conduct a poll last night.

Which I suppose says unintentionally says something about how much $$$ they have.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: ChrisFromNJ on April 21, 2008, 12:20:57 PM
Drudge is scum. I wouldn't be surprised if he fabricated this poll himself.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Verily on April 21, 2008, 12:29:04 PM
Drudge is scum. I wouldn't be surprised if he fabricated this poll himself.

Maybe. I think an overzealous Clinton supporter is more likely to be the source.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: agcatter on April 21, 2008, 12:47:31 PM
It never made any sense.  Besides, as a daily reader of Drudge, he's really done a number on Hillary all the way back to the moment she announced.  One damning headline after another.  He obviously hates the woman.

Do you really think that after all that, the Hillary campaign is going to take Matt Drudge into their confidence?   


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on April 21, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Do you really think that after all that, the Hillary campaign is going to take Matt Drudge into their confidence?   

Bearing in mind how the campaign was run most of the time...


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: ChrisFromNJ on April 21, 2008, 01:11:24 PM
It never made any sense.  Besides, as a daily reader of Drudge, he's really done a number on Hillary all the way back to the moment she announced.  One damning headline after another.  He obviously hates the woman.

Do you really think that after all that, the Hillary campaign is going to take Matt Drudge into their confidence?   

Drudge hates Hillary. Yet if he had a choice, he would probably prefer this race to go on so the Republicans have more of a chance to win in November. Never trust a lying sack of sh**t like Drudge.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: WalterMitty on April 22, 2008, 10:06:27 AM
Clinton folks "categorically deny" this "obvious effort to raise our expectations by somebody" and say they didn't conduct a poll last night.

Which I suppose says unintentionally says something about how much $$$ they have.

you actually believe them?

what are they supposed to say, 'yeah, one of our staffers leaked polling data to drudge'

i wouldnt be surprised if her internals have her up by double digits.  on the other hand, i wouldnt be surprised if obama's internals show the race being a tossup.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Sam Spade on April 22, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
The campaign's own internals are normally accurate (unless they're missing something) - we never get these.  The campaign's own "released" internals are usually wishful thinking.


Title: Re: PAPrimD: Clinton Internals: Clinton up 11% in PA
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 22, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
The campaign's own internals are normally accurate (unless they're missing something) - we never get these.  The campaign's own "released" internals are usually wishful thinking.

Yeah, but I would not be shocked at all if she won by 11% or more. This will most likely mirror Ohio.