Talk Elections

I'd say New Hampshire.

'Social liberal' does not exist.

I'd think Florida.

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New Hampshire. Definately. Nevada is actually pretty conservative socially, especially because of their growing hispanic population.

New Hampshire. Florida really isn't that liberal of a state.

I went Nevada, but NH close second.

New Hampshire. The Northeast is the only socially liberal inclined 'region' in the US.

Florida. Florida is no-longer a southern state. The state is full of northerners that has made Florida much more acceptable to change. Its borders are really next to Pennslyvania and Ohio not Georgia and Alabama.

Nah, Florida's increasingly Republican among young people.

N.H.

I would probably say New Hampshire.
I live in FL; it has become very republican (especially at the state level) in the past ten years and I don't see any sign of that going away.

Yeah. There's not even a state income tax.

NH's governor, senators, and representatives are all pro-life

Are they anti- gay unions?

I'm sure Sununu is, probably Craig Benson as well. I'm not sure about the others.

NH... NV sort of too.

I'd say NV

Bush didn't win Florida, remember :)

Hmmm.... "Live Free or Die" or legalized gambling & prostitutuion?  Close call :).

New Hampshire

Nevada.

New Hampshire :)

Do you want to take this outside, punk?

strictly true, but beyond that you can answer the question based on an assumed newspeak definition of 'social liberal.'  Read it as, which of the states, that Bush won, or likely will win this time, is the most likely to vote NO on an amendment to its constitution to ban gay marriage, or something like that.  That's probably the subtext here, anyway.

I vote for Nevada as well.

I'm pretty sure Nevada has already voted for one. Maybe I'm wrong on that one.

I know they voted recently against allowing for the use of 'medical marijuana.'  too bad.  and too bad about the gay thing too.  still, it's a fine place to hang out and waste a few thousand dollars.

A majority of New Hampshire REPUBLICANS are pro-choice. Can't say the same about Nevada now can we Mr. Alcon :)

Florida.

Florida is not very socially liberal. If you say it is then why did we pass the Parental Notification Amendment with almost 70% of the vote? The only thing liberal we've done recently is raise the minimum wage to 6.15 with forced increases every year. A terrible idea that was but I will laugh when it starts punishing the people that voted for it.

Florida is very socially liberal; the voters just don't know that. ;)

What's the most socially liberal Bush state now?!

Nevada!

Now, for the 2004 election, I'd say Iowa is the most socially liberal state.

For 2000. how about Mississippi, or maybe South Carolina. ;-)

Nevada. If the GOP runs Frist, Santorum, or any other very socially conservative candidate, Nevada won't even be a contest.

Has to be Nevada
-legal prostution
-legal gambling

jesus would turn in his grave

I'd have to say Nevada and Iowa, also.

The Parential Notification Amendment is hardly an extreme position. All but 6 states already have either parental notification or the more strict parential consent laws. Congress is about to potentiall make those remaining states cover parental notification under federal law, with a judicial bypass ability of course. This bill, which allows for a judicial bypass, passed with 65%, which is not all that out of line of national opinion.

Nevada followed by Colorado

New Hampshire

Nevada

Nevada. I thought Iowa was socially conservative?

Lmao...

WTF, that's the funniest sh*t ever posted

Jesus sure as hell doesn't have a grave.  He arose alive on the third day and 50 days later ascended to heaven.

I'm not sure "Jesus sure as hell" is an expression you want to be using, Preston.  ;)

Sounds about right. Most socially liberal swing state is Oregon, and the most socially liberal Kerry state is probably Massachusetts.

I think Vermont is more socially liberal.

I think they have a bit more of a social libertarian lean. It is the second most pro-gun state.

True.  Gun control is such an odd issue.  Theoretically, social conservatives should support gun control and vice-versa, but hte issue is opposite than what it should be.

Gun control should support conservatives?

I wouldn't call Oregon a swing state - a swing state would probably be one Bush won.  Remember, you have to adjust two points.  In a tie election, Kerry "would" have won Oregon by almost seven points - hardly a swing state.

More of these nonsensical uniform swings? Yeah, I don't pay much attention to them.

It's called partisan index.

Here's a partisan index of all states going back to 1968

http://www.mydd.com/balance

(I know I'm using MyDD, but it is correct)

OK, but you argue that a state that voted for a Democrat by 4 points (a decent margin) in a year where Republicans won by 2 points (a small margin) is a swing state.  That is a rather liberal definition of "swing state."

Why do so many of you put so much faith in this "sway" BS?  States and regions don't vote based on a national treand (since their colmination creates that trend, the view point is acctually counter-intuitive), they vote the way they vote for individual reasons, not because of some herd mentality.  If one state, or two states decind to "buck the trend" it is not nessesarily an indication of... anything.  Various factors go into these things.

Utah!

lol, naw, either Nevada or Florida. maybe Iowa

I'll go out on a limb and say my home-state of Ohio. There are a lot of social liberals around Ohio. Most of us are just staunch economic conservatives that vote accordingly.

I would say Ohio is one of the most libertarian states in the country.

This suprises me; I've always thought of Ohio as a populist leaning state.

I agree from what I've seen. Columbus and Yellow Springs areas are the only social liberal areas I can think of. The Cincy area (Tom Brinkman country) makes my county (Livingston) look almost liberal. Toledo/Cleveland/Akron/Youngstown is union country. The SE part of the state is like West Virginia. The Central/Western interior is like Indiana or West Michigan.

I don't live in Ohio though, so I'm only going on my impressions of my visits and what I've followed.

As for socially liberal Bush state, it's a tough call. I don't see where any socially liberal states voted for Bush. New Hampshire, Nevada, and Colorado have libertarian streaks, but I don't consider that liberal. They don't like government much, and I consider that more conservative in the 1994 sense. I'd have to go with Iowa. It's more moderate than anything else. 

Technically this question refers to 2000, not 2004, and of course Bush lost Iowa in 2000. As for the states Bush won in 2000, I would probably list the same ones you mentioned (NH, NV, CO), but yeah, none are really socially liberal, and NV and CO in particular have lots of socially conservative areas.

I spent most of my life in Cleveland, and I have to say that people there don't care too much for government regulation of personal choices and lifestyles. It is home to the rock and roll hall of fame after all :)

You see, you have two kinds of social liberals. You have the kind that are socially liberal in a sense that they really want to fight for their idea of freedom and really feel that social issues are pressing the country. then you have the social liberals that are in a sense that they just don't care what other people are doing.

Ohio is the latter.

Probably Nevada and then New Hampshire.  Florida is one of the most conservative states in the country, top 10.  Nevada everything is legal lol.  In New Hampshire, the ppl are conservative, but the laws are somewhat liberal so I would say Nevada.

2000: New Hampshire - only one of the Bush states that legalized same-sex marriage.
2004: Iowa - only one of the states Bush won that legalized same-sex marriage even though it was judges that required it. According to a recent poll, Iowa has one of if not the highest share of support for same-sex marriage.