Talk Elections

Register to vote in the July 2-4 Atlas Fantasy election, by posting in this thread.

I register.

***retracted***

Here we go again...

I Register!

I figured the elections will be held the second to last weekend in the month before the President takes office......

So in February...June...and October.....and then the President takes office the first Saturday in March....July...and November....

That's 4 months apart....

Plus I think it's too early to be registering for something that takes place in the SUMMER. I mean....when will this close? You're going to keep it open for 4 months? Or will you close it in a week or two..leaving new members who sign up in late spring and early summer with no opprotunity to vote.....I think we're jumping the gun here......... :-\

by the way....I register.......I guess......

That was my thought.  Now that I think about it, shut down this thread.  Give Nym a chance to govern before he needs to worry about this crap again.  I retrct my registration.

I think we need to hold the Constituional Convention first....before anymore elections shall be held. That way we will all be reading from the same page....

LET NYM GOVERN!!!!!!!!!!  BOYCOTT THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!

LET NYM GOVERN!!!!!!!!!!  BOYCOTT THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!

Okay... I'd have to agree...

I also take back my registration.

We really should have a constitution before doing this kind of stuff.

I am so happy that such distinguish members accapt the need and the urgency for a constitutional convention

^^^ Retracted ^^^

im boycotting

I have no idea what is going on here.

hold on, you don't have to re-register if you already registered.

ok, then i wont register

What is going on here

Look, lets not worry about registering for the next election until it's actually close.

Okay, I'm confused after reading this thread.

So here's what I'm gonna do...

I register to vote in the next election (even though--having already registered to vote once--one shouldn't have to register twice) as long as that's what the point of this thread is all about.

Or.  If we are all waiting for a constitution until we register, then I'll retract my registration until then.  lol.

But when you start thinking about it....This entire fantasy election was based with the idea that George W. Bush was the most recent president before (now) Nym90.  That would imply that before Bush, there was Clinton, Bush(41), Reagan, etc.  Which also implies that we already have a constitution....which means there's absolutely no need to create a new one.

We've already set term limits for the atlas president.  We've already had voter registration (and we can allow newcomers to the fantasy elections to register as they arrive).  There's no need for anything more.  An "Atlas Constitutional Convention" thread(s) would just be more clutter; it would be WAY overboard.

Just my $0.02.

we did not set terms . it was a proposal merely discuss by 10-15 person.  let the people decide in an ACC

I support the last ...

if we are still registering, i will register!

I have called upon the president elect to make fewer threads, or call upon Dave to open a forum governance subset here.

This thing is all over the place and I ex[pect participation to suffer if you have to read through 5-10 different threads to keep up.

lets give Nym90 a little time to make some decisions and get things started.

Amen to that.

I register.

goooood idea

I register!

Do I need to register? If so then I register

Just so I don't forget it before the next elections:

I HEREBY REGISTER AS A CONSTITUTIONALIST
Lewis Trondheim
Bangalore, Oregon

I HEREBY REGISTER AS A CONSTITUTIONALIST

Dunn

I register as a PROGRESSIVE :)

Welcome

Oh no!  You're a Progressive now too?  :)

No, man!  Be a DEMOCRAT!

Does anyone have a list of everyone who has registered, and their states and parties?

peter bell, good job on the website thanks

I'm more left than you Dems ;)  If us Progressives don't have a candidate in July(?), then I'll vote Dem, of course ;D

'tis nice though, that you acknowlege me in this way :)

*evil laugh*

I fear you Progressives will do the same thing TR did in 1912, take reelection away from the incumbents and give it to the other party . . . :(

I register.

TR was suppose to be reps candidate, he won the primeries really but the bosses of the party played tricks upon him. and yeah, it cost them the elecrions.

This progressive crap is gonna screw us over bigtime.

Yes, that seems likely. You need to get the new members to register: Ben, HoopsCubs, Saratoga, etc.

why?

He expects potential Dem voters will be progressives instead and considering that Nym90 won with a margin of one vote with one Rep missing that he was in time to vote, and thus didn't bother and another one coming in jsut a little too late to vote and one Rep crossing over as well as one now progressive voting for him, prospects are now bleak for another Dem term. Basically. ;)

Quick!  RightWingNut!  Some Right Wing person!  Form another party!  j/k... j/k... ;)

Yes, the Progessive's likely will take away votes from you guys.  But I imagine there'll be a lot of Republicans crossing their fingers, hoping that another third party doesn't come along which might take away votes from them as well.

There's still a LOT of time between now and election time.  So there's enough time for more parties to come along...

I guess what I'm saying is, don't fret...yet.

TR took ftom the reps. LaFollettee too

Um..yeah, but you're not TR or LaFollette. From your early description this party appeared to be to the left of the Dems rather than to the right...

not really. well...on some issues yes I geuss

Do you have a platform somewhere?

why aren't you supporting my alternate vote system, fellow Democrats? Not only is it actually fairer then first past the post, it also negates the loss of votes to the PP, and also allows them to gain alot of votes they may otherwise not have recieved because people were scared of them "stealing" votes from a candidate. If this happens alot, as it well might do, the pP might actually be elected, otherwise they have no hope, so why aren't they supporting it too? The only party that has anything to lose is the Republicans, and only because the system is being made fairer.

Lol...you might have made this into a partisan issue with that post...will be intetresting to see how that plays out! :D

Do you suggest we both edit it out of our posts and change it to "supercalafrajilistic"? It is my custom useless post :)

The majority of voters are progressives and Dems, so it probably gives you a better chnce than otherwise...especially since the Reps probably wouldn't have accepted an out-landish system anyway... ;)

fair enough. Now to see if the water will let me shower :p

I support the introduction of the Aussie system into Atlas

I hear that 18 posts are necessary to register, which I have at present. Are there any further qualifications or constrictions?

Nope. :) I believe you jsut registered. :)

If I am free to register, then I register as an independent, at least for now. I am torn between the Progressive and Democratic parties, and will choose between the two soon. (Sorry, Republicans!)

yeah
at http://ukconstitution.net/progressive/  (http://ukconstitution.net/progressive/)

I declare my affiliation with the Progressive Party.

*cheers*

As the party chairman I would like to welcome you and to give you the member card #7

Thank you, Mr Chairman.

I know of five members besides me: yourself, Mr Bell, Mr Trondheim, Al and ilikeverin. Whom would the sixth member be, if I am the seventh?

there was a guy here Manuel Esteban, from Chile. he declered him self as one that want to join, had his name on Peter's site for the convention and disappeared. didn't post since. He is #6, hope he comes back.
 

WHAT! When did Al join you? :o

I don't think that Al is a member, but the others seem to think so. Maybe Al himself would like to give some clarification.

Considering the fact that he used to be a senator for the Democratic party and is a member of Nym90's cabinet. I'd certainly say that some clarification would be in order...

he was at our convention and considered a progressive-democrat ticket at WV

---Official Statement---

There was a possibility of the AFWVPP affiliating with the AFWVDP, but after disagreements over economic policy, the members of the AFWVDP rejected affiliation.

Al Realpolitik
Secretary of Labor
Chair AFUMW
Acting Chair AFWV Democrats

You never told us why... :)

I'll go ahead a re-register.

Should I register?

If so

I register as a democrat

Yes, at least I think so. ;)

A new GusNews poll show that 44% of registered voters declare themselves to be Republicans, 44% to Democrats and the new Progressive Party gets as many as 11% of voters behind them, surprisingly high for such a new party. Analysts believe that this is bad news for the Republicans, who had a clear lead in voter registration leading up to the election and lost the presidential election despite the majority of the voters being registered Republicans.

Huzzah!  Huzzah!  Huzzah! ;D

is that our new root?

:)

Even when i was missed because of study-requirement i would never forgot to register... so

I REGISTER

Manuel, did you not wanted to join the progressive (ex constitutional) party

read all about it in out thrad and forum

I have put a new list of the Registered voters on the Archive Site (http://ukconstitution.net/atlas/). Please tell me if I have made mistakes/omissions.

Esteban Manuel has yet to register a party, so I will assume him to be independent until told otherwise. JohnFKeneddy is registered during the chaotic period of registering which I think we annulled, if he wants to register still, just say so and I will put you on.

JFK's pretty active, I think we could count him in.

I, Christopher Michael, am now registered.

I agree JFK should be there

Me has a list too... :) I'll check if they correspond to each other. And I think anyone who has registered should count, since there's no good reason not to.

It appears Pete's list still doesn't include John F Kennedy. I consider him registered, but maybe he should just register again so nobody can complain should his vote decide an election.

I register under Michigan.

Siege40

Do you have a party affiliation?

No, not yet, I suppose it would be Progressive, but I need to learn more about their positions on issues before I can agree to them. They'll likely be my choice though.

Siege40

OK. I'll put you down as progressive in my register then. :) The prorgessive movement is apparently gaining steam. I THINK that they're the most leftist party here, so if I've read you right it should be your party.

Indeed, I'm a Socialist. Put I've noticed American politics to be slanted towards the right as compared to the equivalent parties in Canada. Therefore I'm always apprehensive. For example the Canadian Conservative Party (Canadian Republicans) want to invest more money in public healthcare! You can see why I might be a little weary of American parties. Maybe you guys aren't right, we're just really left. Who knows.

Siege40

I'm Swedish, so I know what you're talking about... :)

We've officially held one Convention so far, and are in the process of holding the second one. Here are some links:

-Policy adpoted at 1st Convention (http://www.ukconstitution.net/progressive/policy/Conv_01.html)
-Party Constitution (http://www.ukconstitution.net/progressive/Constitution.html)
-Party Forums (http://newprogressive.proboards25.com/)

The Convnention is being held in private, and more policy is being discussed there. To access it, one must become a member of the party - to do so, notify either "dunn" (Party Chairman) or "Peter Bell" (Party Secretary) at the Forums or on this board.

Yay! :)

Welcome our friens ftom Canada. Gus (a very respected forum member) is trying to spook you. We are social-democrat and by americans term liberals but we are not leftwing nuts. check our links.

Siege40 has indicated a desire to register as a Progressive - please see the Forum, and change his status to Progressive.

You might be liberals, but I am a leftwing nut. And due to a request in the Re: 5 Regions thread I am now listed under South Carolina. So, I'm a Canadian Progressive in South Carolina... ya I know.

Siege40

Siege40, the Chairman has declared you a member of the Party, and you may now participate in the Second Convention.

This Progressive movement is getting CRAZY.....all new members who come to the forum are urged to be a Progressive....

I can hear the Progressive's chanting now....."Be one of us....one of us......gooble gobble gooble gobble......one of us....one of us......gooble gobble gooble gobble.....one of us...one of us....gooble gobble gooble gobble"

Crazy you say? What's wrong with a Progressive movement? Could it be that you fear the Progressives will take Democratic votes? It seems to me that your implying that the Progressives used unfare methods to woo me into their camp, I can tell you that that's not true. I've been a Socialist for a long time.

Also if we were to start chants I'm sure we could come up with better than that one. It sounds like Zombie Turkeys to me. Not an appealing image.

Siege40

Siege, if you changed to Democrat, we'd openly welcome you :)

It's the chant used in South Park.....as well as the 1931 movie Freaks.....but I doubt you're familiar with either one.

And if you came to the Forum sooner....and read my earlier posts....you would know that I have NOTHING against the Progressive movement...they are the number one third party at the forum....and that's fine with me. I don't view them as a threat at all. And in fact I thought of joining them at one time....which I still may do...you never know.

But I do enjoy teasing them quite a bit. ;D

In fact, we are the only third party.

There's the reform party also, with 1 member

I think Justin...or someone.....formed the Reform Party...but I think he's the only member....lol..

And I was thinking of forming the Democratic-Republican party....but I think I'd be lucky to get 2 to 3 members.

Don't, man; we Dems are losing members and the GOP isnt!

LOL! Me? A Democrat... no. I make John Kerry look like a Compassionate Conservative. A democrat I am not. Sorry friend, I don't think so.

Siege40

Yeah...and that's another thing.....and Dave never responded to my Dem Rep avatars...which I guess is a snub....so don't worry....no Democratic-Republican party will be formed..

Then maybe you're along the lines of Dennis Kucinich, who is still a democrat

We will welcome you with open arms.

And to think....he joined a party that was formed by a Republican :)

Dunn was never a Republican... right?

Yeah....he never was.....but....although Dunn may have formed the Progressive Party here at the forum....it was President Theodore Roosevelt who formed it in real life in 1912. And of course we know that TR was a Republican.

It's not the same, silly ;D

Republicans back then stood for something different. They were more left then the Democrats for a period. It wasn't until the 1920s with the rise of extremism that the parties took on difinitive left-right characteristics. Or something like that.

Siege40

I was never a rep (but I admire TR and LaFollettee who was a rep too). Hey, Lincoln was a rep. It was a Grand Ol' Party.

The reform party dissolve after about 12 hours and justin came back to the right wing part of the GOP.

The fact that the dems started to put their titles in their forum names really speaks for itself

New GusNews poll:

Democrats: 45%

Republicans: 43%

Progressives: 12%

The progressives are constantly gaining steam...and until further information is received I will keep Esteban a Dem for my polls! ;)

DUNNews survey (with Esteban a dem):

dems: 44%
reps: 44%
pros: 12%

Hmmm...why?

21
21
6

It's 22-21-6 in MY register... :)

I have to check

GusNews demand that DUNNews reveal their methods to the public!

Plain old research and fiekd work!
what was your last data?

You mean my last registered persons, or what? JFK and Esteban are the 2 last registered Dems. They and Khgadial are the only ones to join after the election. And there's Demrepdan who switched back.

that was 3 days ago

Yes...?

Someone probably joined the Dems since.

is the list on the progressive party website updated and correct?

Was last time I chekced. Why?

yes, Esteban by your (and my) calaulation
but you have two more not one

Is Khgadial on your list?

yes

And JFK?

well with him I geuss you are right
:)

and he should be there (JFK register please)

He has registered.

ok

then 22-21-6
45%-43%-12%

DUNNews admits that GusNews was right all along. For those of you who want the correct calls from the beginning, tune into GusNews...YOUR channel for political up-dates... ;)

You are using my integrity for dirty ads
that's not like you Gus
;)
:)

The media world is harsh... ;)

I register, just in case I haven't already :p

Any chance we can see your list? I'll make my own otherwise, but it would be much easier if you could just post yours :)

We like to keep our methods secret...see how much there is to win from doing that? :) You can visits Pete's website it has all the info.

A new GusNews poll of adults show that 44.55% of those of voting age are registered to vote. A breakdown of party affiliation shows that 50% of Democrats, 61.76% of Republicans and 18.75% of indepentents/3rd party supporters are registered to vote. The survey also showed that of those old enough to vote, 40% are Democrats, 30.91% Republicans and the rest, 29.09% indepents, etc.

Oooh, I'm an adult! ;)

Yes, you can practice it here. :)

putting the progressive with all other independent is not serious . We have 100%! registered to vote. other independent non!

I'd like to register as a Progressive Democrat.

I don't know what the heck I'm doing though so somebody please explain.

We are having a fantasy political world including elections. you have to register to take a part (and have an avatar and minimum of 18 posts). we have the dems, reps and progressive parties (you can also register as independent(

Well since I had all these people telling me to register as a dem and all these others telling me to register as a Progressive I asked to register as a Progressive Democrat.  

Hey, dem's and progressive are supposed to be diplomatic right?

Gustaf
do we count that as 1/2 - 1/2 or independent?

CTGuy, just register as independent, and vote for whoever you'd like.

Where do I vote?

there were elections a few weeks ago
we are now working on a constitution that will arange elections and patterns for senate, sc, etc

CTGuy, if you are a democrat in life, you'd probably like to be a democrat here.

If you are an independent in soul you should be progressive

GusNews will count him as a Democrat, of course. :)

j/k...I'll count him as a Progresive Democrat, never mind what that is... :P

*hem hem*

Well I was an independent up until a few months ago when I decided to register as a democrat so I could vote in the primary (CT has closed primaries even though 44% of voters are independents).  So I am not sure if I would fit more with the democrats or progressives, I usually split my vote between the democrats and the greens.  LOL!

A brief look through the boards will make it obvious what party you want to be a part of . . .

You sound like a Progressive.

Nah, you're a democrat for sure.

I would like to welcome you to the Progressive Party, CTguy.
Just register at http://newprogressive.proboards25.com and Pete'll set your account so you can see the interesting half of the board.

Damn, you Progressives keep taking away voters from us. Why?!? You essentially believe in the exact same thing the Atlas Democrats do.

Yeah
Soulty is my kind of a GOP man

No we are not
and look at the way your party leaders and elected officials are behaving. It's not just about views y'know

We believe in them in a much more progressive way :)
Anyways, he hasn't registered at our forum yet, so you ca still hope...

of thisnation
You can join us too you know

The progressive are beginning to sound like a sect, aliens or the Ringwraiths. 'Join us, join us....'

We need three more members.

It wae merely  a response for vp falls

Nah, I'm like Gandalf trying to recruit Frodo; ya'll are like the Nazqul trying to take him.

now we are really offended

I register as an ind

Instead of creating a separate party, why not run for office with the Democrats, and change the system that way.

Are the Democrats currently doing any better?

No comment. :)

Sorry, you need 18 posts. And at least I would prefer if not all 18 comes in this thread, since the idea is really for people to engage in the forum first and THEN participate in the fantasy election.

I would like to register as a Progressive.

I register...

I register

You are registered.

NickG

A the party founder and chairman I more then wellcome you  and invited to our party forum


http://newprogressive.proboards25.com/ (http://newprogressive.proboards25.com/)

you have to have 18 posts for that

you are Mass, don't have to re-registered

WHY>?

the veep acting like a wheep

Why?  Because I AM a Progressive.  In real life, I almost always vote for Democrats because not doing so would increase the chance of the Republicans winning, but those considerations seem pretty trivial in a "fantasy" election where the winner has no actual power.

And if you are really concerned about Progressives taking votes away from Democrats: Harry, as a leader of the current administration, why don't you advocate implementing a voting system in the constitution that will eliminate that possibility, like instant-runoff?

NickG
check the progressive forum

Because we're trying to be somewhat like real life.

Registering.

...Oh, well I'll get there eventually. :D

I recon you register as a republican ? (nned to keep the records)

p.s you have a great nick for becomung a progressive

;)

Ok…hope I get his right…

I register…  

That IS right, you just registered. :)

Bullmoose, you are registered already, so that post was actually unnecessary. Once registered, always registered. :)

I don't know about that......especially if we're using registered voters as a basis of making the districts. I mean....what if a WHOLE bunch of people register....but then don't partake in the election...or even the Fantasy Election process. Then we will have districts based on a majority that isn't there to participate.

The way it usually works in real life......is if you register....and then fail to vote for four years or so....then your registration is no longer active. That's how I think it should be here......as long as you register....you don't have to register again.....AS LONG....as you vote in elections. If you fail to vote in two elections in a row...then you must register again to insure the people of the forum that you are SERIOUS about Fantasy Elections.

Agreed. :) Stil means that you technically don't have to reregsister.

Hmm I have 18 posts now, so can I register? Although I am not sure what party I would like to register with...

I would like to make that two *presidential* elections in a row.

Please register me.

You've just done it yourself.
I take it you're registering as a Republican? (Even though your moniker is taken from a different 20th-century party? :) )

Yes. You're now registered. It doesn't really matter what party preference you state, I mean you don't have to do that. But if you don't state one it's harder for us to know wha to count you as, considering that you have a Dem avatar...

Where can I get an introduction as to what to do? Sounds like a lot of fun.

You could go over ALL the old threads on this section...or AIM or e-mail someone who knows. I'd recommend the latter. :)

I register as an independent

Yay, a new indepoendent! :)

welcome

An independent mind you, not a progressive. :)

I registered, just making sure.

I welcome everybody Gus, not just progressive

I'll just be a democrat for now, then...

You are registered already, so don't worry. :)

Lol, I know, I was just kidding you. :)

Hi. I'm changing my party. Instead of being a democrat, I am part of THE JESUS CHRIST PARTY.

i register with the party jesus christ

you can not register with less then 18 posts

I think he already knows that....because I think "he" is Bgwah.....

Hello,

I would like to register as the Jesus Christ Party

Regards,
Rev. Matthew Webster II

1. you can not befor you post 18 times
2. I advice you to stop that cos dan will act and you'll be thrown out

"Dan will act," Matthew has done nothing wrong. He has done nothing but join a party that promotes love, is that so wrong?

This is getting out of hand.
I issue an official vice presidential injuction calling for a mortorium against people registering under the Jesus Christ party.

The Jesus Christ Party apologizes if it has upset anyone, but we feel we have done nothing wrong. If Saint Christopher and Rev. Matthew are not recognized as registered voters until they have 18 posts, that is fine, those are the rules. However, I feel "restricting" certain parties is very unAmerican! Jesus loves America, and doesn't want something like this to happen!

If these other members take part in the discussions and show themselves to be seperate identities, and they each have a substainial number of posts with founded insight, then I will of course lift the injunction.

I agree with the Vice President

I think Rev Matt did post a couple times out of this section, I don't think St Chris did though. Don't worry though, they've only been here for a day or less.

Oh, I have some questions about the game.

When is the next election for president? My understanding is that it is not for a while, but I don't know exactly when.

And, are there any other elections before that? And what are they for?

Is the JCP trying to nominate a candidates now

Jesus has already announced his candidacy for President with the JCP.

How old are you and your friends, "Jesus"?

Jesus is about 2004.
Saint Christopher is a legend, not a real saint, and therefore has no age.
I don't know about the others.

lol...thank you for lightening the mood, Lewis.

2008 really

There are conflicting theories on that.

most reserchers belive he was born 4bc (even though HE can not be born BC... ;)

Actually it's more like "most researchers believe 4 BC to be the most plausible date". And He must have been born BC, because BC is before Christ, Christ is a translation of Messiah, and Jesus has been born and the Messiah, as you will no doubt agree, has not yet come. :)

well you understood....
;)

I'm roughly 2000 years old.

Can someone answer my questions, though?

Would you shut the  up already, you are not funny by any stretch of the imagination.

I'll register

Eighteen posts are the requirement.

Second to last weekend and June.....and you will most likely not be participating in it.


The Senatorial elections should be held during the second to last weekend in April...which is April 23-25. You will probably not be involved in those elections either....because with your friends voting for you....or themselves....it is quite possible you can take a Western Regional Senate seat....as well as a Western District Senate seat.

What you're doing is not allowed at the Fantasy Elections....and that is inviting a bunch of people here just to vote for you....

I register.

I register as a Democrat.

OK. :)

I register

YOU ARE REGISTERED ALREADY!

Do you have to re-register if you registered for the last election?

no

So, it is my understanding that instead of having each state, we are dividing the nation into 5 or so "regions" or something? And each region will have a senator? And I also read something about a governor, is this true?

Does anyone have a complete list of everyone registered and to which party?

yes

Yes, I do, Peter Bell has one on his page that is open for everyone, and I think TheWildCard might have had one from the last election?

Peter's list noe is not updated
I think Gus and mine are but they do have a difference, so...

Whoever is interested would have to make a choice... *dramatic music!* :)

lol

truth is we need one reliable list

We already have one. Mine! :D

j/k... ;)

lol

i just wnat a list.  I don't care who's it is.

Can you AIM me?

List of registered voters:

Democrats:

1. Nym90

2. Al

3. Harry

4. Michael Z

5. Migrendel

6. MiamiU1027

7. Gustaf

8. Hughento

9. ShapeShifter

10. Ben

11. Immy

12. Mossy

13. Jtfdem

14. Demrepdan

15. Christopher Michael

16. Nclib

17. JohnFKennedy

18. MAS117

19. Of_this_nation

20. Beet

21. Khgadial

22. Esteban Manuel

23. EmergingDmajority1

24. Huckelberry Finn

Republicans

1. Supersoulty

2. Jravnsbo

3. YoungRepub

4. GWBFan

5. PD

6. Mr. Fresh

7. Zorkpolitics

8. Opebo

9. M

10. TomAtPitt

11. Justin

12. Reaganfan

13. Bullmoose88

14. DarthKosh

15. 9iron

16. TheWildCard

17. StevenNick99

18. Dazzleman

19. StatesRights

20. Agcat

21. NHPolitico

22. Bejkuy

Progessives

1. Dunn

2. Peter Bell

3. Emsworth

4. Lewis Trondheim

5. NickG

6. Ilikeeverin

7. Siege 40

Indepedents

1. Volk1

2. CTguy

Brought to you by...GusNews...the network that cares!

Thank you, sir.

Gustaf, you missed the Jesus Christ Party!

Gustaf-your list is almost complete, but Jesus legally registered, so he has to be included.

His alternate usernames, however, don't.

DUNNews list is coming up

I have a list with all the names on my whiteboard and I'm ticking them off on my census, just to see who is still active. Please post :)

List of registered voters:56 in all

22 reps

9Iron768       MI
Agcat             TX
Bejkuy           OR
BullMoose88  PA
Darth Kosh    PA
Dazzleman     CT
GWBFan        GA
Jravnsbo       MN
Justin            NH
M                   TX
Mr Fresh         ID
NHPolitico      NH
Opebo           MO
PD                  CA
Reaganfan     OH
Stevennick99  WA
Supersoulty     PA
TheWildCard   CA
TomAtPitt        PA
YoungRepub    NY
ZorkPolitics       NJ
Staterights        FL
         
24* demodrats

Beet                        MD
Christopher Michael MI
Demrepdan              IL
emergingDmajority1 NJ
Gustaf                      MN
Harry                       MS
Huckleberry Finn      NY
Hughento                 IA
Immy                        ID
Jtfdem                      MI
Kghadial                   IN
MAS117                     NJ
Miamiu1027              NY
Michael Z                  DC
Migrendel                 MA
Mossy                      OR
Nclib                        NC
Nym90                     MI
Of_thisnation          MD
Realpolitik (Al)          WV
Ben                          Mo
ShapeShifter            NY
JohnFKennedy          CA
Esteban Manuel       PA *



7 progressives

Dunn                       NY
Lewis Trondheim    OR
Peter Bell                MA
Emsworth                NJ
ILikeVerin               MN
NickG                       MD
Siege40                   ME

1 Jesuit

Jesus                        WA  #

2 Indepedents

Volk1                           NJ
CTguy                         CT

* officialy regisrtered as democrat, last known words: I would like to join the progressive. some theory that Miami abducted him ( :) )  
# registration under question for violation of rules

No! Other members of the JCP may not count because they have not reached 18 posts yet, but they are not the same person and Jesus.

Ah, yes you are correct. I do have Jesus as a ergistered voter, i jsut forgot about him. Who cares about the suckers anyway, but fair enough.

Well, I suppose I should register. I'll vote, but I don't have enough time to actually run for anything. :(

"I register as an Independent"

You are welcome.

Welcome, another independent is good news

Just remember an independent could vote any way, not just PP.

Welsome to the fantasy forum, WMS-I hope you enjoy the serenity ;)

I welcome anyone Hugh

I'm going to register

Thanks for the welcome! And as Lewis has figured out from other threads, I really *am* an Independent - my political beliefs don't fit any of the three established Forum political parties (let's not even talk about the fourth 'party', OK? ::) ). So who knows how I'd vote... :)

Duke Fan
another Final Four, geeee
What party should you registered under, you have been swithing them so please state the party (ind is good too)

Here you go, my Minnesotan friend.

Thank you again, supersoulty, for pulling this up for me.   With this post, I will reach the 18-post requirement for voter registration.  Therefore, I am officially registering at this time.  As a Democrat, if that matters.

Have you looked at the Progressive Party?  ;)

Hmmm, they look interesting.  This forum is just full of surprises....I'll stay registered as a Democrat for now, but I may vote for Progressives in the elections.

Welcome
and remember the progressive and the reps helped you:)
check our (progressive) forum.

the link

newprogressive.proboards25.com (http://newprogressive.proboards25.com)

register there and you can read the secure boards

I register as an Independent.

welcome

I register with the Jesus Party, the party who will win.

you can not until you have valid 18 posts and that does not include go jesus crap

What do you mean "go Jesus crap", most of your posts are go independent party.

no they are not
and It's my last warning to you

Hey guys,
please keep civil.  
Thanks,
Dave

I know have over 18 post and I registerd with the Jesus Christ Party.

I move to recognize Apostle!

God himself spoke
Isn't that enough apostel

I hereby change my party registration to the Progressive Party, the party who will win.  Go PP!

Sorry, that was my Apostle imitation, I promise not to do that anymore.  :)

I'm also changing my name to Fritz, in honor of the great former VP from the great state of Minnesota.  I decided I need something more original than my initials.

Thank You,
Fritz

JLD?

I also have decided to change my Party registration to Progressive due to the mistreat of me as a democratic member.

Maybe I will be treated with some more respect than name calling.

Registration

from: Democrat

to: Progressive

Its in my signature Dunn, to clear up any confusion.

I will NOT be changing my colors to green, though.

Cool, I just changed my color to Green.

why not the color though?

Shapeshifter, please come back!
I know there is a rift between you and another Democrat, but please, we need all of the support we can have! :(

I do post on other areas of this board, and I think real-life political identification is more imortant.

OK
fair enough

Dunn, Is anyone running for the North-East Region seat from the Progressive party?

Sorry VP Harry.

You guys got start organizing things. Can't have people with Democratic position attacking fellow Democrats because they disagree with him, or have something to complain about.

Have those accountable for pushing away those away from the party.

Welcome to the Progressive Party, Shapeshifter! No-one is running from our party in the Northeast region.

Cool, now you can run for the District two seat without any problems.

We have a deal not to run anyone except the two that are running. It's too late for that anyhow, the deadline was yesterday, You can run for governor though

What, no welcome-to-the-party for me?  No please-don't-leave-the-Democrats for me?

*sniff*

But is that part of the deal?

JLD, WELCOME!

Your action inspired me to join the right party.

I belive they will. And If not....

What are the function of a governor? I have no problem if I do not run for any senate seat.

1.  The "deal" pertains to who the party endorses.  The Parties can't make deals regarding who will run/who will not run, that is up to individuals.

2.  Shapeshifter was already registered to run for Senate before the filing deadline.  The only thing he has changed is his party registration.

I can always drop from the run.

However, why the deadline is so long before the actual race?

The filing deadline aside, I'm not sure if our new member is precluded from running under the deal. See here (http://users.boardnation.com/~afdnc/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=8). Now, the proposed sets of conditions included:

---
- No Progressive candidate for President
- No Democratic candidate for a Senate seat or Senate seats
- A non-binding expectation for Progressives to vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate, and similarly for the Democrats to vote for the Progressive candidate in the Senate district or districts. (This is non-binding because neither Party should force its voters to vote in a certain manner.)

(Emsworth)
----

1. Preference swapping in all Federal elections.
2. Support of Progressive candidate in one region or district, with no Democrat running-in return for no Progressives running in the three closest senate regions or districts
3. Sepearte parties-it is a bit confusinf to have the Progressive Democrats or Democratic Progressives...

(Hughento)

---

Neither of these precludes ShapeShifter from running. Of course, he would still have a Democratic opponent.

ShapeShifter said in the candidacy-declaration thread, "I declare my candidacy for the Senate." Others assumed that it was for the district seat, but it could have been for the regional seat. Therefore, there should be no filing deadline issue.

Yea. But will they let that fly.

Is there a way to resolve the issue of whether Jesus and Apostle are legitimate voters?  

As I see it, whether or not they are the same person, both of them are trolls and have used the forum only to troll and not to make a meaningful contribution to out discussion of politics.  

No matter how many posts they have, they should not be allowed to vote in our elections if their primary goals are to tear the forum down and not to build it up.

Regarding this, there are some rather sticky constitutional issues.  

Article V, Clause 4: "No one who has attained eighteen posts and have established an avatar from the United States for at least the time span of the election shall be denied the right to vote."

Amendment II, Section 2: "Every member of the forum shall have the right to vote if they have acquired eighteen posts and are registered with an avatar from the United States, and shall not be excluded from any election due to their nationality, race, religion, sex, sexual affiliation, or age. "

I have seen some discussion about changing this language to specify what constitutes valid postings.  IMO, writing language into the Constitution for the specific purpose of excluding Jesus and Apostle will be a very, very bad idea.  As the language is currently written, they cannot be excluded.  All that is mentioned is 18 posts, it does not say 18 high-quality posts or 18 posts that add something to the forum.  Nor should it.

Amendment II, Section 1: "No one shall exclude any person from an election or position on the basis of their political affiliation, whether it be in a federal or regional election."  Excluding anyone from running on the basis of membership in the Jesus Christ Party is therefore unconstitutional as well.

It simply amazes me that these multiple accounts originating from the same person have not been expelled by Dave.  I am sure he has been made aware of this situation (I have even notified him myself about it).  Obviously that is the most expedient resolution to this problem.

Constitutionally, then, here is how we can proceed:

Jesus and Apostle must be permitted to vote and run for office, having fulfilled the constitutional requirements for doing so.

In order for Apostle to actually get elected, Jesus will have to be very, very busy posting posts from Saint Christopher, Brother Ian, etc. to get them up to 18 posts.  Okay, let's assume he actually does this.  The Senate immediately expels Apostle, under the terms of Article I Section 4.  The Governor of the Wetern region would hopefully appoint the person who would have won absent all the Jesus votes.  This is somewhat unfair to Western region voters, but hopefully the Governor would do the right thing.

Whether or not Apostle gets elected to the Senate, the Supreme Court, once established and convened, will bring charges against Jesus, Apostle, and all other incarnations of this persona, the charge being creating multiple accounts in the forum.

I know this seems a long-winded way to proceed.  I hope that Dave will intervene, and make all this unnecessary.  But if the rule of law is going to prevail in the forum, as opposed to anarchy, I can see no other way.

I'd like to welcome both the new Progressives into the Party!  Woohoo!

I'd especially like to welcome Fritz, the other Minnesota Progressive still with a Dem avatar :)

Thanks Ilikeverin!

I'd imagine the reason Dave doesn't expel people for having multiple identies is that, for the most part, Dave doesn't moderate the Fantasty Election board.    On the other boards, having multiple identities doesn't serve much purpose, so it isn't really a problem.  Dave mostly makes sure there is no profanity and (lately) that the conversation is on-topic.

We have the responsibility to police ourselves in the  Fanatsy Election forum, and that means we can decide who is a legitimate voter, whether or not they are a legal poster on other boards.  If the Constitution indicates that everyone with 18 posts must be allowed to vote, I would support amending the Constitution.

In my mind, if a person is only on the forum for the purpose of trolling, they should not be voting in the elections whether or not they have 18 post that techically qualify as legitimate.

Prove that all members of the JCP are "one" person first. They aren't. Doing an IP check should confirm this.

No it can't, people can use different computers.

How would one person get access to TEN computers??? I could see maybe 2 or 3, but 10?

It's possible configure your computer to send out false IP's. There's nothing to lose in doing an IP check, heck, we know it would make cheating HARDER, and that's always a plus. Not everyone is going to be as obvious as JC here. However, IP check should not be the only test, obviously.

Oh...well..Jesus doesn't really know how to do that :-/

Jesus meets the requirements of the Constitution. Thus he is allowed to vote and hold office. Enough said. Typical of the Democrats to always want to change the constitution when it doesnt suit their thinking.

Jesus may, but apostle does NOT.

And why can't I.  I have the proper amount of legitament posts.  What other reason do you have.

as I have said, dan has changed the constitution draft so that you have to be a sensible and active poster. you don't fill those requirements. Also what the heck does "legitament" mean???

Legitimate meaning legal, lawful, valid,  justifiable.  Do you need any other words defined.  

I know what Legitimate means, you said "legitament".

I think that you might have also known that the Apostle made a typographical error.

my first instinct was what the hell is that word, then possibly legitimate but I was not sure.

And why am I not an active Poster.  Please elaborate, or have Dave send me a post exlpaining what i have not done.

Thanks.

Dave doesn't control this, speak to Dan, as far as I know it means people who make sensible and intelligent posts in the other forums and do not troll.

If you read my posts, most of them have nothing to do with The JCP of the Fantacy Elections

well it isn't up to me in the end, so try and convince dan or the supreme court when they are established.

Here's a report on the validity of apostle and his claims.  The majority of the post are on the fantasy elections board, and about 90% of those involve the JCP.

So far, here's all the data I've collected=

Posts out of F.E. board = 21 (43.75%)
Posts in the F.E. board = 27  (56.25%)

There will be more shortly (can you tell I like statistics?)!

Also, most of his posts seem to consist of one sentence... pratically monosyllabic grunts here at the Atlas forums.

The only reason i have more posts in the Fantasy Elections area is because i have to constantly defend my post (like now).  Also, i voiced my opions on each of the matters.  It shouldn't matter the size, but the opinion.

Having read of the "Apostle's" post.....I now see that he has made some...."legitimate" posts....therefore....he is an official registered voter......and one out of TWO members of the JC Party. Congratulations Jesus....you have 2 members....

THank you for noticing me.

PUH! *spits on the floor next to your shoe*

I should never had made my post :P

why?

I have more than 18 posts (barely), I register.

PBrunsel, welcome.  You need to indicate a party, we won't just automatically assume Republican....independent is ok...if you say Jesus Christ party you might get lynched.  :)

you can choose progressive you know ;)

You can always go with the Jesus Christ Party.  We accept all and love all.  We would welcome you, if you choose.

I will be a Republican. I do like the Progressives and the positive message of the Jesus Christ Party.

Thank you :)

Yes, thank you. You are registered

()

?????

Hmm, and what is this?

Is it too late to register?

it's never too late. you can allways register and if it's less then 10 days before an election you will not be able to vote. But You CAN register AND vote in the comung elections.
I rekon you register as a demodrat? some real life democrats with red avatar registered as progressives. Check this out:

//newprogressive.proboards25.com/index.cgi (http:////newprogressive.proboards25.com/index.cgi)

Dunn,

What about the anti-troll policy?

This guy is along time member and not a troll. If he wishes to register I do not see a problem. We are fighting the trolls but should welcome to the forum and the AF section any member who is not a troll

Were you actually around for the mr_president-era? ;)

I am not as vetern as you - please tell me what I should know

Well...click on his profile and elect to read all his posts and sscroll down to the first ones and see for yourself...we used to call him the leftist version of John back in those days. :)

I didn't know that but most his posts are pro Dean and unharmful (and Jhon is a registrerd voter). As long as there is no Senate we - as cabinet members - should decide. I will wait for dan's vote on that. I sat he can be register what do you say

Maybe so...I am all for John registering, but that's pure nostalgia...I mean, he's a harmless troll, after all. But I thought John never worker out how to register?

I guess Mr_president could be allowed to register, but I'd ahve to think about it. The same argument you used against Apostle could be used against him though.

reasonble enough

When I first joined the forum I was stupid with my posting, but I soon realised what this forum principal were and I changed my ways. My posting was stupid, but that was along time ago and I would like to leave that behind us now and start fresh. I am sorry for my actions back then and if I could take it back I would.

So I ask with your support, I would like to register.

Look at this:

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=12;action=display;threadid=259;start=msg6152#msg6152

you made three posts.  Consecutively.

Post 1. Who do you support for Australian Prime Minister?
Post 2. I support Mark Latham.
Post 3. Marck Latham...it's time for a change.

I am sorry for that and I won’t make excuses for my stupid behaviour back then but I have changed now and have stop that stupidly. I ashore you that I am not currently a troll. I have made derogatory statements about you, which now I realise were unnecessary. Now I would like to ask for your personal forgiveness and hope that we can have a new start.

I'll let the other members decide about you.

Fair enough. I am the naive sort of person willing to give everyone a new chance so I withdraw my protests.

I support Mr. President on the grounds that he is a fellow Southerner.

He used to have a NY avatar before, he just changed it now.

I say lets give him  a chance

Well, might as well register I guess.

I would like to register.

Everyone who is registering for the first time should declare what party they wish to register with: Democrat, Republican, Progressive, or Independent.  

We don't just automatically use your avatar color...I'm a Progressive but have a Dem avatar, fror instance.

exectly.
Please state your party (d, r, p, i)

I automataically use their avatar colour... :)

That was your problem! a dem-lean bias poll!!! ;) ;)

Seriously though, if someone has a Dem avatar I think it's reasonable to conclude that they are Dems until they join the Progressives. I think that's fair enough.

I know that, I was kidding

Yeah, I thought so. :)

I register as an independent

welcome

welcome

KEmperor and Nader
Please state your party (D,R,P,I) so I can update the records

Ian Edward MacDougall, Republican from New York.

must have 18 posts I think

you can not register my friend. Yoy to have 18 posts and not on the fantasy elections thread.
BUT  -  WELCOME TO THE FORUM

iron is right, you need 18 posts, sorry, just come back when you have them :)

Republican here, of course.

ok

I told you so... :)

:)

GusNews, one step ahead once again! ;)

It's a fact that people here are progressivrs with red avatar

Lol, yes I know. :)

But it's safe to go by people's avatars UNTIL they state their allegiance. IMO.

And are there any people with blue avatars in the progressives?

Nope. They are semi-marxists! :D

Sorry Dunn... ;)

no' green or red. YOU can be the first

And why in the name of all that is good would I want to be in a party with marxists?  LOL.

we are not

They're mostly Democrats who don't want to be Democrats...and have VERY FEW POSITIONS ON ISSUES (HINT, HINT...) ;)

55% are ex independents
44% are ex dems
as allways DUNNews bring you the corect numbers ;)

Lol...the independents are mostly people who were too far left to join the Dems in the first time... ;)

not true
I found the party and I am not that left.

No, not you, but Lewis and Siege are.

we (me too) on economics and green issues, but so is many of your democratic party friend. We got very similar resukts on some tests

Must... update... temporary... Progressive... homepage...

I think they would both not have voted for almost any Democratic candidate in US elections...that means pretty far to the left I think. There is nothing wrong with that, i'm just pointing out that if one thinks the Dems are too far left I doubt whether one would consider the PP. But I'll admit to not knowing that many of your stands yet. (HINT, HINT...)

you are register at out site
you didn't visit lately