Talk Elections

From Firstread:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/05/1646644.aspx


Unclear exactly how the question is worded.  I guess the way this blog post phrases it, it might have imply asked who Republicans want as their "new leader" rather than who they want as their 2012 presidential nominee, but it's a fairly similar question.  I guess we'll figure it out once the full poll comes out.

NOTA - Keystone Phil

I support Romney right now, there's a decent chance the economy will still be in the tank up to four years form now, he could be our response. Even if it weren't he's a classy and clever guy.

Listen, I'm all about hoping the country sees better days but I won't be supporting Obama in his re-election bid. I'm sad to see that you're already on board.

If the economy is the #1 issue...I could see myself strongly supporting Romney...but it's still early.

I bet Romney takes it. The GOP has thing for people who lost primaries in the past, unlike us Democrats.

Who tend to adore General election losers.

It's amazing how quickly Sarah Palin's stock has fallen.

33% is probably Romney's ceiling, lol.  it's all could could muster this time around despite having a monopoly on the money.

its still early?  you think?

Rudy '12

I strongly suspect that there's not enough room in the primary for both Huckabee and Palin.  I don't think Huckabee wants it anymore anyway.

It won't be any of those three....at least it better not.  Actually, it probably won't matter who the sacrificial lamb is.  Unless Obama totally funks up (which is possible), he'll win again in '12.

Lots of chatter about Bobby Jindal, and I would certainly support him. He's a very bright guy who is extremely articulate. Way too early though.. goodness... we've got plenty of time to worry about this!

I doubt Obama wins reelection, or even renomination. His Keynesianism won't cure the economic crisis, and his commitment to Georgia and Afghanistan will likely get us into another unpopular foreign conflict. That doesn't make for a good reelection campaign.

I would support Bobby Jindal for president.

What?

That's what I was thinking.  I can imagine many scenarios where Obama loses the Presidency in '12, but very few where he fails to get the nomination from his Party.  He'd need to be much worse than Bush and I don't think Obama has that in him.

Don't forget that there is still a primary opponent of his that came very close to winning and is still bitter about her loss.

Even "the evil one" isn't evil enough to try and pull that stunt.  Unless Obama totally screws the pooch, but I think he is smarter than that.  (barring any off the wall scenarios)

Palin 2012!

Good call.  Huckabee and Palin's supporters are pretty much one in the same, I suspect.  Let's see who else enters.  Jindal?

And Republicans don't? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon)
With the way this is going, how long until the "2012 Primary election polls" subforum is opened :)

I have trust problems with Romney, nearly of the magnitude I have with Obama.

True, but not this time, fellow.

I wouldn't underestimate her. it would be the first time a rela (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Kennedy)tive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Kennedy) of a former president  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kennedy) ran against the incum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_Johnson)bent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter) in the primary. And also, in the early states, if Hillary could convince most of John Edwards supporters to back her, she would win Iowa and New Hampshire and come close in South Carolina. That could give her enough momentum to be a serious threat for the nomination.

wouldn't?

Obama got a majority of the vote in South Carolina the first time, and his support will only grow unless he has a bad first term. If he does, I could see him being beatable since he's basically setting himself up for failure.

Since this is the second poll to have Romney up and can make a conjecture that Romney is the frontrunner right now but it is very early.


No Palin's and Hucks people are not one in the same. Many have said that 33% is Romney's ceiling. Whether it is or not I think that a much better arguement can be made that 20% is Huck's ceiling. Huck showed no strengh outside Evangelicals and southern ones at that. He showed no strenght among Western Cosnervatives even Evangelicals out there. While his hold on the South was not absolute as McCain won SC and TX. and Romney probably took a good 20% of the Southern vote(not counting post Romney contests). Palin causes problems for both Mitt and Huck. She takes Western votes from Romney and competes with Huck in the South. Meanwhile this is where timing comes in. Right now people are waiting to see who enters the race. If there is no Rudy or McCain type candidate Romney can lock up the Suburbs and the Northeast

Go Romney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huckabee's and Palin's supporters are pretty much one in the same?  What about all the talk radio listening "movement conservatives" who hated Huck almost as much as they hated McCain during the primaries?  I would imagine that many of them are OK with Palin.

Also, with regard to Jindal, I'm curious as to whether you think he will actually give up on running for a second term in order to run for president?  I mean, with the Louisiana governor's race being held in November 2011 and Iowa caucuses being held in January 2012, it would seem kind of impractical to be running in both.

Depends on the landscape.  If Obama has a good first term and has decent approval ratings, the field will be incredibly weak.... Thune, Jindal, etc. will wait for 2016

The problem is that we won't know whether Obama will be beatable in 2012 until *after* the GOP field takes shape.  See, for example, the 1992 election, in which all the big name Dems passed on the chance to run because Bush appeared to be unbeatable.

Fix'd

The GOP better hope Huckabee and Palin both run.  A vote split so neither sniffs the nomination would be in their best interests.

LOL.

Rudy Giuliani will spend the rest of his life exploiting the memory of the dead for personal gain.