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Title: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 09, 2008, 07:25:58 PM
Well?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 09, 2008, 07:36:15 PM
Please stop talking about Bob Corker. Please.

Anyway, my vote would be for someone else (assuming he was running). If not, Jindal gets my support.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: SPC on November 09, 2008, 08:17:07 PM
My preferences:

1. Ron Paul-backed candidate
2. Bobby Jindal
3. Sarah Palin
4. Mitt Romney
5. Mike Huckabee


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Workers' Friend on November 09, 2008, 08:18:17 PM
Mike Huckabee.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: TomC on November 09, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
Palin


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 09, 2008, 08:51:24 PM
Romney


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 09, 2008, 09:33:48 PM
     Romney is the most tolerable of those candidates I guess.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 09, 2008, 10:03:52 PM
Since I am an Indy, in NC I can vote in the primary. Out of these Romney.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Daniel Z on November 09, 2008, 11:51:07 PM
If forced probably Romney or Corker.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Bacon King on November 09, 2008, 11:55:03 PM
Though I don't agree with Jindal much politically, he seems to be a very intelligent guy and quite a competent administrator.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 09, 2008, 11:57:12 PM
I guess out of these Romney, but I'd be undecided going into the debates between he and Obama.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Ronnie on November 10, 2008, 12:36:56 AM
I guess out of these Romney, but I'd be undecided going into the debates between he and Obama.

Well, you never know.  I probably agree with you, but if Obama sucks, I will likely be firmly in Romney's column.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: YRABNNRM on November 10, 2008, 12:53:02 AM
I'd say Thune is far more likely than Corker.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Lief 🗽 on November 10, 2008, 12:53:50 AM
Texas has open primaries, so I'd vote for Palin. :)


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 10, 2008, 12:55:06 AM
Texas has open primaries, so I'd vote for Palin. :)

ahhh! it's the revenge of Operation Chaos!


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 10, 2008, 12:55:18 AM
I guess out of these Romney, but I'd be undecided going into the debates between he and Obama.

Well, you never know.  I probably agree with you, but if Obama sucks, I will likely be firmly in Romney's column.

     Same here. I used to utterly detest Romney, but after seeing what else the GOP has to offer, I've warmed up a lot to him.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 10, 2008, 12:55:44 AM
I guess out of these Romney, but I'd be undecided going into the debates between he and Obama.

Well, you never know.  I probably agree with you, but if Obama sucks, I will likely be firmly in Romney's column.

Yeah. It all depends on how Obama does in his first term. In all honesty, I'm not expecting much.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Rowan on November 10, 2008, 10:35:48 AM
Newt Gingrich.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 10, 2008, 02:20:17 PM
I'm not a Republican but I quite like Mike Huckabee.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 10, 2008, 03:01:41 PM

I think Gingrich would be good if Obama has relatively high approval ratings and appears likely to be re-elected.  I wouldn't expect Gingrich to win but I think he would be good at bringing new Conservative ideas to the table, setting the GOP up for future gains and reminding the American people that there is another way to go. 


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Reaganfan on November 10, 2008, 05:38:21 PM
I voted Romney...but Huckabee, and Jindal would be up there.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 10, 2008, 05:48:35 PM
I'd say Thune is far more likely than Corker.

Yeah; I forgot about Thune :P


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Wall St. Wiz on November 10, 2008, 07:38:24 PM
Jindal...not even close


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Nixon in '80 on November 10, 2008, 07:58:11 PM
I really like Jindal, but it would depend what kind of campaign he ran... he's a bit too socially conservative for my taste, but if he didn't play that up too much and focused on the economy and foreign policy, I'd probably vote for him.

If not, Romney.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Daniel Adams on November 10, 2008, 08:01:39 PM
Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 10, 2008, 08:02:38 PM
Corker is the least odious of the choices I gave.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Nutmeg on November 10, 2008, 10:01:06 PM
Sad that Palin is the most ingenuous person on that list, excluding Corker (about whom I know next to nothing).

I likely will be voting in the R primary in 2012 if President Obama is de facto unopposed for renomination, so I might have to start looking into the R field.  In this poll I voted for the Huck.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: ?????????? on November 10, 2008, 10:13:04 PM
Can't vote in the primaries.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Boris on November 10, 2008, 10:27:55 PM
Romney is by far the most entertaining and smartest of the group. Except for maybe Jindal. You can tell he's smart as hell because of his skin color. He's certainly more likeable than Romney but Romney would seemingly have the better ability at making President Obama look silly in the debates (as recent campaigns have shown, the former trait is far more important). As for who is the most electable of this group, who knows?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Eraserhead on November 11, 2008, 03:01:17 PM
I'd say Thune is far more likely than Corker.

Thune would be a far more intelligent choice for the GOP than anyone listed here.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Nutmeg on November 11, 2008, 04:07:14 PM
Sad that Palin is the most ingenuous person on that list, excluding Corker (about whom I know next to nothing).
Clearly Corker is  not the only one you know nothing about.

You're right; Huck probably is more trustworthy than Palin.

However, if you're suggesting that Romney is ingenuous, I really have nothing to say to that.  He'd say anything to advance himself.  There are few politicians I have less respect for than Mitt Romney, save the perverts and felons.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Lunar on November 11, 2008, 04:22:01 PM
Might change my registration to vote for Palin, depending on whether she needs the boost on Super Tuesday.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Storebought on November 11, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
I voted for Jindal just to keep Romney from having the plurality of (Republican) votes. But in reality, I favor none of the above: Secession is starting to look good.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Nutmeg on November 11, 2008, 08:38:10 PM
Sad that Palin is the most ingenuous person on that list, excluding Corker (about whom I know next to nothing).
Clearly Corker is  not the only one you know nothing about.
You're right; Huck probably is more trustworthy than Palin.

However, if you're suggesting that Romney is ingenuous, I really have nothing to say to that.  He'd say anything to advance himself.  There are few politicians I have less respect for than Mitt Romney, save the perverts and felons.
And whose untruths is this based on?

My own personal interactions with the man as a first-in-the-nation voter.  Can you provide me any evidence to the contrary, to convince me that the nausea I felt after meeting him each time was the product of, say, something I'd eaten earlier?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: War on Want on November 11, 2008, 09:41:07 PM
Romney


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 11, 2008, 11:24:00 PM
However, if you're suggesting that Romney is ingenuous, I really have nothing to say to that.  He'd say anything to advance himself.  There are few politicians I have less respect for than Mitt Romney, save the perverts and felons.

Romney flipped on abortion.  What else did he do to make you consider him disreputable?  I'm not picking a fight, I really want to know.  This must be the fifth time I've asked this on this board, and I've yet to receive a real answer. 


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: jokerman on November 11, 2008, 11:36:35 PM
Huckabee's probably the closest thing the GOP has to creating some sort of working coalition right now.  The GOP needs to find a way to hold onto evangelicals while simultaneously attracting racial minorities (i.e. latinos).


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: © tweed on November 11, 2008, 11:38:26 PM
Huckabee's probably the closest thing the GOP has to creating some sort of working coalition right now.  The GOP needs to find a way to hold onto evangelicals while simultaneously attracting racial minorities (i.e. latinos).

he would get absolutely demolished in middle/upper income suburbs and urban areas.  if you think McCain losing DuPage was a telling development, wait to see what would happen to Huck.  I'm not buying that the Hispanics would flock to him either.  why?  because he likes Jesus too?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: jokerman on November 11, 2008, 11:49:24 PM
Huckabee's probably the closest thing the GOP has to creating some sort of working coalition right now.  The GOP needs to find a way to hold onto evangelicals while simultaneously attracting racial minorities (i.e. latinos).

he would get absolutely demolished in middle/upper income suburbs and urban areas.  if you think McCain losing DuPage was a telling development, wait to see what would happen to Huck.  I'm not buying that the Hispanics would flock to him either.  why?  because he likes Jesus too?
He epitomizes "compassionate conservatism," and thus at least stands more of a chance with hispanics than anyone else.  As far as upper/middle income suburbanites go, their voting values are more shallow than you think.  As soon as prosperity returns we'll see their traditional myopia set in, with a full return to commercialism and isolationism (and thus the GOP).


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Brandon H on November 11, 2008, 11:53:02 PM
If Jindal does run, what are the chances that he won't win all of Louisiana's delegates?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 11, 2008, 11:55:22 PM
He epitomizes "compassionate conservatism," and thus at least stands more of a chance with hispanics than anyone else.  As far as upper/middle income suburbanites go, their voting values are more shallow than you think.  As soon as prosperity returns we'll see their traditional myopia set in, with a full return to commercialism and isolationism (and thus the GOP).

After W, "compassionate conservatism" will never sell.  To anyone.  And suburbanites vote on 2 issues, national security and the economy.  Right now the only economic selling point Huckabee may have is the Fair Tax, which no one knows enough about to feel comfortable with, let alone vote for.  


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: paul718 on November 11, 2008, 11:56:06 PM
If Jindal does run, what are the chances that he won't win all of Louisiana's delegates?


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: Nutmeg on November 12, 2008, 03:01:34 AM
My own personal interactions with the man as a first-in-the-nation voter.  Can you provide me any evidence to the contrary, to convince me that the nausea I felt after meeting him each time was the product of, say, something I'd eaten earlier?
Not only is it ridiculous to think you are an expert judge of character based on stiff, repetitive, cordial, and brief meetings with a man, it's obviously a hyperbole and based on preconceived notions.  It's pretty hard to be as disgusted as you claim to be with someone whose job is to be charming and was successful with almost 5 million people.  Then comes the problem that you accused him of not being "ingenious", which is just absurd.  Romney is clearly a very, very intelligent man regardless of your political feelings towards him.

I met every candidate in both fields this year.  Only two I didn't like were Romney and Gravel.  Apparently meeting someone isn't a good way to judge them, though.  Shall we discern from television ads?

Number of votes received is hardly a measure of personal character.  Bill Clinton would, by that standard, be a most honorable man.

I never implied that Romney isn't intelligent.

However, if you're suggesting that Romney is ingenuous, I really have nothing to say to that.  He'd say anything to advance himself.  There are few politicians I have less respect for than Mitt Romney, save the perverts and felons.
Romney flipped on abortion.  What else did he do to make you consider him disreputable?  I'm not picking a fight, I really want to know.  This must be the fifth time I've asked this on this board, and I've yet to receive a real answer. 
You won't get an answer.  I've thoroughly refuted it literally 100 times, yet the same people keep coming back with mindless, baseless accusations.  Hating Romney is like a sad game to people here.  They try to one-up each other claiming they hate him more.  None of it is founded in reality or intellectually honest in any way.  It's sad, it's unfortunate, and it's very telling of the character and integrity of many forum members.

You're nearly as bad as that R-RI guy.

I'm going to vote against the jerk if he runs again in 2012, and it will be pleasing to do so.  Four years after convincing Massachusetts to vote for him, he went on the national stage to repeatedly trash his own state as well as New England in general in order to ingratiate himself with the Republican Party's southern and hard-right base.  Using an electorate that voted him into office as a pawn in a political campaign was enough to establish him as disingenuous in my mind.


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: dead0man on November 12, 2008, 06:39:54 AM
NOTA


Title: Re: Hypothetical 2012 GOP Primary
Post by: The Man From G.O.P. on November 12, 2008, 11:08:57 AM
I'd toss Romney and Jindal around, probably end up voting for Jindal. I'm starting to believe the 2012 Primaries are going to be between those two, trading Northern and Southern wins, making it a squeaker like the Democrats this year.