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Title: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Tender Branson on December 05, 2008, 01:11:37 AM
In thinking about the 2010 Election for United States Senate suppose you had a choice between Republican Arlen Specter and Democrat Chris Matthews. If the election were held today would you vote for Republican Arlen Specter or Democrat Chris Matthews?

Specter - 46%
Matthews - 43%

Obama Approval Ratings:

73% Approve (51% strongly, 22% somewhat)
25% Disapprove (9% somewhat, 16% strongly)

Pennsylvania Survey of 500 Likely Voters - Conducted Dec. 2, 2008 - By Rasmussen Reports

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2010/election_2010_state_toplines/toplines_pennsylvania_senate_election_december_2_2008


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Aizen on December 05, 2008, 01:15:15 AM
aww yeah, we're totally going to get this seat.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Padfoot on December 05, 2008, 01:33:15 AM
aww yeah, we're totally going to get this seat.


23 months.  That's all I'm going to say.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 05, 2008, 11:30:24 AM
I'd rather have Specter than Matthews.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Franzl on December 05, 2008, 11:32:44 AM
Anybody that takes ANY poll seriously 23 months in advance and actually gives a s**t about it is pathetic.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 05, 2008, 12:44:01 PM
As I said elsewhere...

Good news for Specter from that Rasmussen poll - 68% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of him. Sure it should be higher for a Republican Senator but that rating surely isn't weak. The problem for him is that only 70% of Republicans said they'd vote for him in the General.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Lunar on December 05, 2008, 12:46:37 PM
I can see that Specter is getting huge swaths of the (D) vote (a must since registration has changed lately), but who will those (R)'s end up voting for?  Surely not Matthews

Lewis you gotta edit your links down in size :)


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 05, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
I can see that Specter is getting huge swaths of the (D) vote (a must since registration has changed lately), but who will those (R)'s end up voting for?  Surely not Matthews

I'm one of these Republicans caught in a really tough spot. It's pretty funny. I really never want to vote for Specter. I've even said that in a Specter vs. Schwartz matchup, I'd still write in someone.

I love saying that I'd consider voting for Matthews. When push comes to shove, I won't do it. There really is no way that I could. I'd either write in or...don't make me say it...

I think my latter option is what most of these undecided Republicans would do as well.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Beet on December 05, 2008, 12:58:04 PM
This is closer than I thought it'd be... Specter's age is probably hurting him. Still, he's one of the few moderate Republicans left and one of the few northeast Republican Senators left so I wouldn't exactly be ecstatic about Dems taking him out.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2008, 01:10:48 AM
By the way, it looks like Specter has already tried to keep us conservatives happy. My Mom got a mailer today about drilling and it provided a quote for Specter and his desire to open drilling in ANWR. Kind of funny since I'm about 90% sure he opposed that before.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 07, 2008, 01:45:26 AM
I can see that Specter is getting huge swaths of the (D) vote (a must since registration has changed lately), but who will those (R)'s end up voting for?  Surely not Matthews

I'm one of these Republicans caught in a really tough spot. It's pretty funny. I really never want to vote for Specter. I've even said that in a Specter vs. Schwartz matchup, I'd still write in someone.

I love saying that I'd consider voting for Matthews. When push comes to shove, I won't do it. There really is no way that I could. I'd either write in or...don't make me say it...

I think my latter option is what most of these undecided Republicans would do as well.

If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 07, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Then why does he hate her so much?


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Then why does he hate her so much?

Uh...ask him. That doesn't mean he can't hate her for other reasons.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 07, 2008, 04:18:14 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2008, 04:41:23 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 07, 2008, 08:41:42 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I don't see how either Specter or Clinton are liberals. Specter is pretty far-right as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 07, 2008, 11:20:12 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I don't see how either Specter or Clinton are liberals. Specter is pretty far-right as far as I'm concerned.

Ok, let opebo be opebo. It doesn't work for you.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 07, 2008, 11:21:14 PM
He's about as far-right as he is a liberal, at least in the American sense of the word.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Speed of Sound on December 07, 2008, 11:57:22 PM
I cannot with a straight face buy a poll that suggests that Chris Matthews can almost out name rec. Arlen Specter. That guy is the king of name rec. I don't care how blue PA trends, if the best we can do is Matthews, then its gonna be up to the Republicans to knock off Specter. or cancer


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 08, 2008, 01:56:17 AM
If all else fails, doesn't the CP run a full slate?


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 08, 2008, 02:03:50 AM
If all else fails, doesn't the CP run a full slate?

Usually but they're usually too right wing for me. I still wouldn't have voted for Jim Clymer in 2004.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Franzl on December 08, 2008, 02:14:06 AM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I'd still consider Specter to be pretty centrist. Standard Liberal definitely isn't true :)


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 08, 2008, 08:15:58 AM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I don't see how either Specter or Clinton are liberals. Specter is pretty far-right as far as I'm concerned.

Ok, let opebo be opebo. It doesn't work for you.

If I'm opebo, you must be Statesrights or something, dude. You can't seriously think that Specter is a "standard liberal", even going by the American standard.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 08, 2008, 08:17:59 AM
By the way, Matthews renewed his contract with NBC. This race isn't going to happen, folks.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Keystone Phil on December 08, 2008, 10:15:01 AM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I don't see how either Specter or Clinton are liberals. Specter is pretty far-right as far as I'm concerned.

Ok, let opebo be opebo. It doesn't work for you.

If I'm opebo, you must be Statesrights or something, dude. You can't seriously think that Specter is a "standard liberal", even going by the American standard.

Yes, I do. Meanwhile, the guy who wants me to think that I'm wrong doesn't even think that Hillary Clinton is a liberal. I guess Obama isn't either since they have an almost identical record.


Title: Re: PA-Rasmussen: Sen. Specter (R) in a tight race with Matthews (D)
Post by: Eraserhead on December 08, 2008, 07:29:22 PM
If I managed to vote for Hillary in '06, you can bring yourself to vote for Specter in '10, Phil.

You and Hillary have ideological similarities.

Not much more than you and Specter would have.

Specter is a pretty standard liberal. I'm a standard conservative. You are maybe slightly left of standard liberal. Same with Hillary.  :P

I don't see how either Specter or Clinton are liberals. Specter is pretty far-right as far as I'm concerned.

Ok, let opebo be opebo. It doesn't work for you.

If I'm opebo, you must be Statesrights or something, dude. You can't seriously think that Specter is a "standard liberal", even going by the American standard.

Yes, I do. Meanwhile, the guy who wants me to think that I'm wrong doesn't even think that Hillary Clinton is a liberal. I guess Obama isn't either since they have an almost identical record.

I don't consider Obama a liberal. He's very much a moderate with some center-right leanings. His cabinet picks are making this pretty obvious. I do give him credit for standing against the war on Iraq though, unlike Mrs. Clinton.

I hate to use this phrase, but I suppose we are going to have to agree to disagree here. What a surprise. ;)