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Title: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 24, 2004, 11:26:22 am
Had to get those off my chest, and couldn't find the old thread... :(

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

A blowout that could have been even better. Kerry/Clarke v Bush/Cheney. PV was 54-46 to myself. I won Kansas by a margin of 13 points, 56-43.


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 24, 2004, 11:50:28 am
Ran as Gore/Clark v Bush/Cheney. Was very close until the final days. I hit him with a power 3 scandal which he immiediately spun away. With only a day or so left I wrecked his base completely digging into the South opening up leads in NC, VA and TX. The tossups in those final days were: New Mecixo, New Jersey, Texas, Georgia, Minnesota, Ohio, Lousiana and Arkansas. I won 5 of those.

In total, I won the PV 53-47 and the EV 419-119.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on September 24, 2004, 12:07:55 pm
I won every state plus DC as a custom candidate once. I think I was running against Ralph Nader, though.

When is the new PF version coming out?


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on September 24, 2004, 12:38:32 pm
Ran as Bush/Cheney against Kerry/Edwards in 2004. Won 314 to 224.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on September 25, 2004, 10:31:36 am

When is the new PF version coming out?
The homepage for President Forever was updated Thursday, the new report now says that primaries will not be out for several weeks.


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: DA on September 26, 2004, 04:43:47 am
I hadn't updated mine for a while, I couldn't believe all that the've added.
Best. Shareware. Ever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 05, 2004, 04:37:00 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Clark/Kerry v Bush/Cheney.

I ran out of funds in the final days... :(

Losing Texas by a mere point was rough...I also lost South Carolina and Mississippi by very narrow margins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 05, 2004, 07:25:55 pm
my best ever game was this. In 1996 I smoked Dole with 55% of the vote, Perot taking about 11%:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=0&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


I also did this as Mondale:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=1984&ev_c=1&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;21;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=2;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on October 05, 2004, 09:52:09 pm
That's an accomplishment for Mondale. I mean, only losing 42 states?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 05, 2004, 10:15:38 pm
I just did this as Hillary Clinton/Obama vs. DeLay/Owens in the 2008 scenario "A New Direction". Oh yeah, did I just whoop his ass:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=0&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

And with no scandals on DeLay, and one on me. I just kept slamming his integrity.

I also got over 70% in NJ, over 60% in VA, CT, MA, MD, DE, WA, TN, NM, ME, IL, RI, NY and WV, and almost 60% in PA, NC, OH, MO, OR, NH, CO. And DeLay only won Kansas, North Dakota and South Carolina by less than 3 points. 56% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 05, 2004, 10:18:46 pm
And for the record, all of these are with Dynamism off.

Also, here's one that I made. It's a ridiculous scenario that I never thought had any chance of happening, I just did it because it'd be easy and thought I would start small in making them. I want to try an Edwards vs. Santorum one in 2012 sometime. Try it out: http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/150733-J7EH/DeanTheIndependent-2004.zip


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 07, 2004, 03:32:03 am
Kerry/Dean 446 vs. Bush/Cheney 92

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Closest GOP state:
Georgia by 1.5%

Closest DEM state:
Maryland  by 1.2%

This was a good one-I won Texas and Utah ;) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 08, 2004, 11:28:42 pm
I said that I wouldn't play as anyone but Dean until I won with him.

I pulled it off. However I lost the popular vote 51/48.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 08, 2004, 11:34:46 pm
Did anyone try my independent Dean scenario?

I know it's not really much different from the typical 2004, but I just wanted to start with something easy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 08, 2004, 11:38:32 pm
I tried it, but Dean wasn't powerful enough IMHO. It was still really good :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 10, 2004, 09:41:55 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 10, 2004, 11:58:24 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

One of my better results ever.

Edwards/Clark v Bush/Cheney.

One of the keys to this win were huge debate wins which meant a lot of momentum on issue familiarity. I won the pv 53-47. No scandals in the campaign at all.

Closest states:

Minnesota, Edwards 51-49

Wisconsin: Edwards 51-49

South Carolina: 51-48

Kansas: 51-48

California: 51-48

Best for Edwards:

DC: 86%

Maine: 72% (!)

West Virginia: 64%

Mississippi: 63% (!!)

Oregon: 62%

Best for Bush:

North Dakota: 72%

WYoming: 66%

Idaho: 66%

Utah: 65%

Montana: 64%





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 10, 2004, 12:03:13 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.

Kerry won OK and KS and Powell won NY and CA?

Why do you people use dynamism?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 2,868,691 on October 10, 2004, 02:48:10 pm
(http://www.freewebs.com/expansionist/election.PNG)
I played the UNA 2004 scenario as Stockwell Day/Bill Frist against Gore/Lieberman and won 420-191.  53% of the PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 10, 2004, 03:49:05 pm
Man, it sure is easy to beat Tom DeLay.

I just did this as Russ Feingold:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&ME=1;2;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NE=2;2;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 12, 2004, 01:55:55 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I tried to do a game that would be similar to the actual race. So, Kerry/Edwards v Bush/Cheney for starters.

Then I let Kerry run on Military Intervention, Public Health Care and Leadership. I also researched PHC. I focused more on the battlegrounds than I usually do as well. The result was pretty good, as you can see above... ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on October 12, 2004, 05:40:22 pm
Call me dumb, but how do I generate these maps? I have my best result that I want to post. I have it memorized pretty well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 13, 2004, 04:20:28 am
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on October 13, 2004, 06:57:54 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap1.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

McCain/Scarborough- 53%(66,688,735) 433 EVs
Gore/Kerry- 39%(49,288824) 105 EVs
Buchanan/Foster- 2%(2,726,293)
Nader/LaDuke- 3%(4,744,990)

I won most states by large margins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 13, 2004, 08:42:42 pm
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 04:42:08 pm
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.

Yeah, I know that, but as you yourself point out it isn't classifiable. I started doing free trade a while, since that sort of encompasses out-sourcing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 04:49:20 pm
Ran the race again, this time made it even more realistic, with Bush going more for news spinning and ground game, Kerry more for endorsments and barnstorming, etc. I also included the other candidates.

This one was really tight, Bush led in the EC throughout the entire campaign whereas the PV was tied.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

PV: Kerry won the 2-party vote 50.2-49.8

EV: Kerry won 280-258

Closest states were Nevada, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Maryland, Virginia, Vermont, North Carolina, West Virginia and Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on October 15, 2004, 05:52:53 pm
Indiana won by Kerry... in my dreams *sniff*


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 06:28:54 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Kerry: 51.09%, 274

Bush:  48.91%, 264


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 16, 2004, 07:39:44 pm
Removed dynamism for those last games, btw.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Kerry won the PV 52-48 and the EV 311-227.

Bush was lucky winning a lot of squeakers...New Hampshire, Georgia, West Virginia and Colorado for instance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 17, 2004, 12:50:01 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

PV: Kerry wins 51-49

EV: Kerry wins 347-191


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 17, 2004, 01:16:47 pm
I'm getting mad at you Gustaf. Why can't you ever seem to win Minnesota?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 17, 2004, 01:47:59 pm
(http://C:\Documents and Settings\Jacob Nichols\My Documents\My Pictures\McCainGore2000.png)

2000 McCain/Gore
McCain 275 50.1%
Gore    263  49.9%

Tossups were:
NC 51.0/49.0
TN 50.2/49.8
MO 50.4/49.6
IA 50.1/49.9

I ran out of money in the last week and he sprung 3 big scandals, but I won all the debates and rode issue familiarity.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 17, 2004, 06:05:20 pm
Try the 2008 scenario A New Direction and run Hagel against Edwards if you want a close race. Can't get much closer than it usually does.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 17, 2004, 06:34:11 pm
here's my latest game of it. I won the popular vote 51-48:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on October 18, 2004, 01:47:16 pm
hey gusaf...play me vs you...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on October 18, 2004, 04:13:36 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Pataki/Owens 53%(66,593466) 369
Edwards/Obama 46%(58,440,220) 169

Using the 2008 A New Direction scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 19, 2004, 04:56:58 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Here you go, BRTD. ;)

Another one of those real-life-like matchups...Bush sprung a medium scandal on Kerry and won the 2nd debate...I'm suprised Kerry actually managed to get as close as he did in the end. The tossups in the end were CA, OH, WV, MN and NV I think. The closest states were WI, NV and OH.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Bush on October 19, 2004, 07:43:00 pm
 How do you play this game? Were do you find it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on October 19, 2004, 08:33:41 pm
How do you play this game? Were do you find it?

Google search result for "President Forever" should get you there. You need to pay $12 to buy the game so it is completable - it is worth it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 20, 2004, 12:01:41 am
just played 2004 using Gustaf's set up, with Personal Tax as Kerry's third theme. This is what happened:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Thank Nader for Connecticut, he took 65,296 votes allowing Bush to win it by 119. Next closest state was Nevada, I took it by 1418 votes, with Nader getting 28362 and Badnarik getting 39098.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on October 20, 2004, 03:34:25 pm
My best win ever as General Wesley Clark:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Clark/Vilsack: 483

Bush/Cheney: 55

Nolan/Millay: 0 (But, somehow, 4,321,987 popular votes)

Wesley Clark has to be the best Democrat in the 2004 Scenario.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 20, 2004, 04:37:53 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Kerry ran with free trade/Kerry as his 3rd theme. Bush ran on Leadership/Bush, Integrity/Attacking Kerry and Terrorism/Bush.

PV:

Kerry: 48.52%

Bush: 46.24%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Redefeatbush04 on October 22, 2004, 09:40:25 pm
Fine, since the map won't appear:
Changes from 2000 ....

Dem to Rep

Wisconsin
Iowa
Michigan
New Mexico


Rep to Dem

New Hampshire
West Virginia
Florida (dem to dem)
Missouri
Colorado


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 22, 2004, 11:15:41 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 23, 2004, 01:19:30 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN

That's interesting.  Gore actually won his home state in that scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 24, 2004, 12:16:08 am
Feingold/Richardson sinks Pataki/Owens. Oh yeah:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Popular vote 52/47

closest state: Arizona (Pataki by 0.5%)

Interesting state: Washington. Was Pataki up by 7 at one point, voted for Feingold by 21. That scandal I unleashed on him the last week sure had an effect.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 24, 2004, 12:50:43 am
Off the 2020 scenario. As Gavin Newsom I won an electoral landslide but only 33% of the popular vote against Todd Staples, Matt Gonzalez, and Michael Badnarik:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=4;3;5&AZ=3;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=3;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=4;5;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Gonzalez = Green, Badnarik = gray


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 24, 2004, 03:17:15 pm
Joke game
Kucinich v Bush v Nolan v Nader
Bush      52 497
Kucinich 38    41
Nader      9 
Nolan       1

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Maine had a 137 vote margin so I guess ME-2 went for Bush.

Major tossups were MA 48.0
                                      47.8
                                 NY 46.9
                                      46.7


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Redefeatbush04 on October 25, 2004, 05:16:16 pm
I finally got it, and have played two games. First as Kerry/Lieberman against Bush/Cheney (lost.....barely), and once as Ross Perot in 92 and did decent (I won Alaska by only 19 votes!!!)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on October 30, 2004, 11:56:21 am
Lots of people talked about the only way for a 3rd party person to win/get any states was for them to be like Perot and have lots of money.  This is true!

Before election map:
(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/7150/bkbn1_b4election.png)

Overall map:
(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/3737/bkbn1_overall.png)

As you can see, Kerry almost won, but, of course, it went to the House where Bush won :(

% maps:
(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/4829/bkbn1_dem.png)

(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/1585/bkbn1_rep.png)

(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/523/bkbn1_indep.png)

(http://img27.exs.cx/img27/4300/bkbn1_liber.png)

(Whoops, that's Libertarian % not Democratic %)

(Yes, I did run ads in all states at the end)

(IIRC Colorado was the closest state w/~32-31-32-2 (D-R-I-L) or some such)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 30, 2004, 05:24:43 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&ev_p=0&AL=3;10;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=1;5;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;14;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=3;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=3;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=3;3;5)

Roy Moore v. John Edwards 2008
w/Moore as an actual third party canidate.

Heartbreakers in AR, LA, MS, GA, MT, OK, & SC
all lost by 2% or less


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 31, 2004, 03:16:24 pm
here's an interesting 1968.

the good news: I won
the bad news: I lost Minnesota

that's right, I lost Minnesota as HUMPHREY. Talk about a hollow victory.

More weirdness: look at Alaska and Hawaii. And Utah :)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&ev_p=1&AL=3;10;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;14;5&GA=3;12;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;9;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=3;10;5&ME=2;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=3;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;25;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Nixon 41, Humphrey 45, Wallace 12


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on October 31, 2004, 03:36:02 pm
Why would Minnesota vote against its own god (Humphrey)? I mean they have enough malls and universities named after him there that he doesn't even need to campaign...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 31, 2004, 03:40:06 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&ev_p=0&AL=3;10;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=1;5;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;14;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=3;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=3;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=3;3;5

Fix this now!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&ev_p=0&AL=3;10;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=1;5;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;14;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=3;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=3;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=3;3;5)

Modify this now :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on October 31, 2004, 08:55:27 pm
can anyone top this as LaFollette in 1924?

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1924&ev_p=1&AL=1;12;5&AZ=1;3;5&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;13;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;6;5&GA=1;14;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=2;29;5&IN=1;15;5&IA=2;13;5&KS=2;10;5&KY=2;13;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;6;5&MD=1;8;5&MA=2;18;5&MI=2;15;5&MN=2;12;5&MS=1;10;5&MO=1;18;5&MT=3;4;5&NE=2;8;5&NV=3;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;14;5&NM=2;3;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=1;12;5&ND=3;5;5&OH=2;24;5&OK=1;10;5&OR=2;5;5&PA=2;38;5&RI=2;5;5&SC=1;9;5&SD=2;5;5&TN=1;12;5&TX=1;20;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;4;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=3;7;5&WV=2;8;5&WI=3;13;5&WY=2;3;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on November 04, 2004, 09:37:06 pm
This was a weird one...

I was doing great and going for a landslide, but started losing some states. However, in the end, I got a pretty good EV victory while losing the PV.

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

On the New Direction scenario...Feingold/Frist/Cobb/Ventura.

Notice that the map is quite boring...much like 2000 except for NM going Republican and NH going Democrat. Oh, and one other state changed hands, too. ;)

CA was darn close which accounts for my PV loss. I won it by 13,862 votes - 45.9% to 45.8%.

Nationwide:

Frist 47% (59,392,857)
Feingold 46% (57,593,205)
Cobb 3% (3,875,403)
Ventura 3% (3,860,813)

I also am proud to say I won Texas by 8.6. Cobb got an amazing 7.9% there, too.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on November 07, 2004, 12:54:53 am
I actually won as Carter in 1980! Guess I should thank Anderson for that power 9 scandal. :) . He hit Reagan with another power 6 scandal, but right afterwords I got hit with one later. Luckily mine was spun out after only one turn, and Reagan's continued for quite awhile. Then I drawed all the debates, and Reagan was sunk.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Carter 49 Reagan 44 Anderson 6

closet state: Pennsylvania. I took it by only 0.1%, less than 4000 votes. NJ was also fairly close (only 0.5% margin).

Now if only that was the actual result. Things would be so much better now. sigh...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Christopher on November 07, 2004, 11:34:26 am
 Hmmm...welll I won 1980 with Reagan in every state and damn near won D.C. with like 43% of the vote!

 Another goodie was when we (me and my buddy) won a majority with Ross Perrot in 92 by like 3 votes! It was hard though!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on November 07, 2004, 09:38:18 pm
I once won as Carter in 1980 with something like 500 EVs :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 09, 2004, 05:42:03 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 09, 2004, 06:39:08 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.

Wish that would have happened in really life.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 10, 2004, 04:02:13 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

As an experiment I tried to create the worse possible Democratic ticket and run it as good as I could against the best possible Republican ticket. I decided on Powell/Rice v Sharpton/Lieberman. I won with SHarpton, but only narrowly after winning the debates. PV was Sharpton roughly 51-48...so this was sort of the reversed of the real result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 23, 2004, 06:14:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Dean/Gephardt v Bush/Cheney, me running Dean. I included Nader and Browne too. No dynamism.

I kicked ass, basically. And with a positive campaign only and one debate tied. No idea how it happened really. Dean won the PV 51-45 and Bush was lucky to get away with as many EVs as he did.

Closest states were:

VA: Bush by 0

AR: Bush by 0

WV: Bush by 1

TN: Dean by 1

I'm very proud of coming within 3 points in Texas and 2 points in Georgia. :)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on December 16, 2004, 09:16:31 pm
Josh22/Amos vs. Fritz

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Fritz: 55,368,787 votes (44%) 250 EVs
Josh: 49,802,006 votes (39%) 288 EVs
Anderson (my super independent): 19,716,817 votes (15%) 0 EVs

Heaps of close states that Josh narrowly one; also Anderson stole from both sides.

States with neither Josh nor Fritz over 50%

Josh wins

Hawaii (43.1% to 40.3%)
California (39.7% to 39.5%)
Nevada (42.8% to 35.6%)
Utah (45.8% to 44.0%)
Montana (45.8% to 44.4%)
Colorado (41.3% to 40.2%)
Nebraska (46.6% to 44.0%)
Kansas (Josh 38.7%, Anderson 37.2%, Fritz 24.0%)
Louisiana (44.4% to 43.5%)
Arkansas (44.4% to 33.9%)
Missouri (36.6% to 35.6%)
Wisconsin (44.3% to 29.2%)
Florida (44.0% to 41.1%)
Georgia (47.2% to 36.6%)
Connecticut (42.6% to 36.1%)
New Hampshire (48.1% to 29.6%)

Fritz wins
North Dakota (47.3% to 44.2%)
Ohio (46.9% to 34.4%)
Tennessee (48.8% to 31.3%)
Maryland (Anderson's Home State) (45.2% to 30.8%)
Pennsylvania (38.1% to 37.0%)
New Jersey (44.8% to 28.4%)
Vermont (48.5% to 32.5%)

CLOSEST STATES

California, Josh by 0.2%
Louisiana, Josh by 0.9%
Missouri, Josh by 1.0%
Colorado, Josh by 1.1%
Pennsylvania, Fritz by 1.1%
Montana, Josh by 1.4%
Utah, Josh by 1.8%
Nebraska, Josh by 2.6%
Hawaii, Josh by 2.8%
Florida, Josh by 2.9%

All but 1 won by Josh.

This was TIGHT, but Josh did better on the last day I suppose. Fritz spent it with his VP in CA, Josh spent it in Colorado with his VP in Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on December 16, 2004, 09:20:15 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.

It's funny looking back at the preprogrammed numbers for this election and seeing what the authors assumed the situation in states like West Virginia and Vermont was.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 14, 2005, 12:37:28 pm
It's funny looking back at the preprogrammed numbers for this election and seeing what the authors assumed the situation in states like West Virginia and Vermont was.

Very true. Moreover, it's interesting to look at their gauge of the candidates. I'm beginnign to change these around now. What do you think the real stats should be? I lowered Kerry's charisma and leadership one step each. I also lowered Edwards debating skill to 3 and his charisma to 4. (5-5 there was just way out there...)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 14, 2005, 03:19:18 pm
I won comfortably as Carter, playing without Anderson though.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 20, 2005, 10:14:45 am
Played a standard left v a standard right candidate (I was the libertarian flip-flopping numerous times and otherwise doing nothing) to see how it would turn out. The result:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

James Right/Colin Powell: 51% of the vote and 264 electoral votes

John Left/Joseph Lieberman: 48% of the vote and 274 electoral votes

Closest state was New Hampshire which Left won by about 3 points. The first debate was a draw, the 2nd Left won and the 3rd RIght won. Left won strictly due to campaigning in the right states though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on March 20, 2005, 02:01:49 pm
I really need to install this game on my home comp.

My previous comp sucked ass and would freeze up if I ran it, so I installed it in my student files at school. I can only play it on the school computers then, but that's OK because I have to use for them a bunch of other things anyway. But it'd more convenient to have it on this one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 23, 2005, 04:50:56 pm
My new best as Wallace in 1968:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;3&CA=2;40;4&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;14;4&GA=3;12;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;4&IN=3;13;5&IA=2;9;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=3;9;4&LA=3;10;4&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;6&MO=2;12;4&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;4&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;4&NC=3;13;3&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;26;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;29;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=3;8;3&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;3&TX=3;25;4&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;4&WA=1;9;4&WV=1;7;4&WI=2;12;4&WY=2;3;5)

Hubert Humphrey/Ted Kennedy: 212 Electoral Votes

Richard Nixon/Ronald Reagan: 202

George Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay: 124

Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 23, 2005, 07:52:55 pm
Is there a way to get scenerios other than 2004, 1992, 1980, and 1960, the ones that come with the original game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 23, 2005, 08:26:05 pm
Is there a way to get scenerios other than 2004, 1992, 1980, and 1960, the ones that come with the original game?

Download them from here http://www.80soft.com/pforever/scenarios/index.htm

if this is what you looking for that is. The site has been very nicely organized to say the least.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 25, 2005, 12:09:05 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;4&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

This is my best result ever with Kerry/Edwards v Bush/Cheney v Nader/Camejo v Badnarik/someone

I changed the candidates to make the game closer to real life, lowering Kerry's charisma to 2 and his leadership to 3 as well as Bush's issue knowledge to 2. I also lowered Nader's leadership to 2 his charisma to 1 and something else too (Nader is way overrated in the game, he got about 0.5% in the real election and constantly gets about 4% in the game).

I tied Bush in the popular vote of the old confederacy and won the national popular vote by about 10 points or 12 million votes, 52-42 with Nader at 3% and Badnarik at 1%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 25, 2005, 06:02:50 pm
Using the "New Frontiers - 1960", "Goldwater vs LBJ - II - 1964" and "1968mm" scenarios available on 80soft.com I just played the three U.S. presidential elections of the 1960ies. I always took the role of the Democratic candidate.




1960: Kennedy smashes Nixon.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;6&CA=2;32;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=2;3;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;27;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;10;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;11;5&MS=3;8;6&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;4;6&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;32;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=1;24;6&UT=2;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

John F. Kennedy
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 302

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 227

Harry Byrd
Popular Vote: 1%
Electoral Vote: 8



1964: Johnson wins... but with a rather "weak" electoral result (I mean, for Johnson).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;10;5&AK=1;3;7&AZ=1;5;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;14;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;9;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;6&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;4&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;4&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=2;29;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;25;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;4&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;6&WI=1;12;6&WY=2;3;5)

Lyndon B. Johnson
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 359

Barry Goldwater
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 179




1968: In a rather dirty race for the presidency, both Humphrey and Nixon suffered some major scandals, leading to a suprisingly good result for Wallace and no majority in the Electoral College (Congress picked Hubert Humphrey in the end).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;14;3&GA=3;12;3&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;3&IA=1;9;4&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;3&LA=3;10;5&ME=2;4;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;4&MO=1;12;3&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=2;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;25;4&UT=2;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;6&WV=3;7;4&WI=1;12;6&WY=1;3;5)

Hubert Humphrey
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 250

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 207

George Wallace
Popular Vote: 16%
Electoral Vote: 82


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 25, 2005, 08:00:49 pm
Playing as Harry vs. PBrunsel, Nation, and Hughento.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

276-262 PB win. I gave myself and PB a very limited budget and gave Nation and Hugh huge amounts of cash

I needed 2,031 votes in Vermont, (where Nation was within 3,000 of winning) and 30,812 in New Hampshire (where Hugh beat me).

National results:

PB: 37%
Harry: 36%
Nation: 14%
Hugh: 11%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on March 25, 2005, 10:22:01 pm
Kennedy v. Nixon v. Byrd-1960 Game Scenario

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;10;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;4&CA=1;40;6&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;14;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=1;4;7&IL=1;26;6&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;9;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=3;10;4&ME=2;4;5&MD=2;10;6&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;7&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;7&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;4;6&OH=2;26;5&OK=3;8;4&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;25;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;4&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;7)

Kennedy 281 49%
Nixon      230 44%
Byrd          26   6%

I gave Byrd 1,500,000 and put dynamism on.  Byrd got 2nd in AL and VA.


Title: Biggest Choke
Post by: Polkergeist on March 26, 2005, 02:01:39 am
I was playing the US+British Isles Scenario as Tony Blair against Colin Powell. He just has no stamina.....

2 days before
(http://i141.exs.cx/img141/6489/2daysb6gi.jpg)

Blair 441 53%
Powell 100 41%
?  114  6%

then election night

(http://img87.exs.cx/img87/6148/biggestchokeb3mf.jpg)

Blair 291 50% (won popular vote by 1 million out of 131 million)
Powell 364 49%

This is what happens when you stick to barnstorming


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 26, 2005, 05:29:53 am
I´m through with the 70ies.




1972: McGovern loses D.C., but wins Mississippi and some other conservative states.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=2;3;6&FL=2;17;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;6&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=2;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;25;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;8&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 309

George McGovern
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 229




1976 with a rather 2000ish result (see Popular & Electoral Vote):

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 271

James Carter
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 267


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 26, 2005, 07:34:10 am
And now the 80ies...




1980: Carter wins a second term by capturing the South and narrowly winning Reagan´s homestate (California results: Carter 42.9%, Reagan 42.8%, Anderson 7.4%, Clark 6.9%).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;6&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;4&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;4&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

James Carter
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 297

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 241

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 5%
Electoral Vote: 0




1984: Mondale gets humiliated by Reagan... but at least not so bad than in real history.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=1;36;6&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;23;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;6)

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 405

Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 133




1988: Dukakis defeats Bush.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1988&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=1;47;6&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;21;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;10;4&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Michael Dukakis
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 276

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 262




I think I´ll take a break now... ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 26, 2005, 11:04:07 am
After a President Forever marathon I´m finally through with all elections from 1960 to 2004.




1992: Bascially the same problem I had in 1968. Both major candidates leaked so many scandals that the third party candidate scores big, leading to no electoral majority. Elections was decided by Congress (in favor of Clinton).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;54;3&CO=1;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;3&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;3&IL=2;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=3;3;4&OH=1;21;5&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=3;4;3&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;3&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=2;2;3&ME1=2;1;3&ME2=2;1;3&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

William Clinton
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 256

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 252

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 30




1996: Clinton landslide.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;8;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;21;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bill Clinton
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 393

Robert Dole
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 145

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 8%
Electoral Vote: 0




2000: Gore landslide.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;6&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;6&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Albert Gore
Popular Vote: 54%
Electoral Vote: 396

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 142




2004: Kerry landslide.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;4&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

John Kerry
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 408

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 130

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 27, 2005, 07:57:09 pm
Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.

You rebel you :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on March 28, 2005, 05:25:49 pm
Here's my results from the 2020 scenario:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;10;3&AR=1;6;3&CA=1;55;3&CO=1;9;3&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;27;3&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;3&IL=1;21;4&IN=1;11;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=1;17;3&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;6;4&MO=1;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;5;3&NH=0;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;31;3&NC=1;15;3&ND=2;3;3&OH=2;20;3&OK=1;7;3&OR=0;7;4&PA=2;21;4&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=1;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=1;34;3&UT=2;5;3&VT=0;3;4&VA=2;13;3&WA=0;11;3&WV=1;5;3&WI=2;10;4&WY=1;3;3&ME=0;2;3&ME1=0;1;3&ME2=0;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Stephanie Herseth/Michael Garcia-32% 343 EV
J.C. Watts/Melissa Hart-29% 163 EV
Matt Gonzalez/John Eder-19% 25 EV (Washington, Oregon, Vermont and Maine)
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot-17% 7 EV (Alaska and New Hampshire)

Arizona and Rhode Island should also be >20%.

The two closest states were Florida and North Carolina in which I won both by around 7,000 votes


I played the scenario again using Bob Casey (for some reason I started out 9 points behind in the polls
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)
Melissa Hart/Adam Putnam-48% 279 EVs
Bob Casey Jr/Barack Obama-51% 259 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:17:38 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

I was playing as Edwards/Gephardt.

I won all the debates, and only lost the PV 46-45.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 10:51:59 am
The resluts of a 2020 race between Governor Jim Nussle of Iowa and Senator Barack Obama with a throw in Michael Badnarik.



(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=0;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Jim Nussle/George P. Bush: 436

Barack Obama/Chelsea Clinton: 98

Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot: 4


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 am
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 30, 2005, 12:07:04 pm
Am I such a brilliant player or is the 1972 scenario just so easy to win?

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=2;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;6&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;6&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6)

George McGovern
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 323

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 215


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 02:24:38 pm
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 03:42:46 pm
Playing as McGovern, lost 240-298

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;6&AR=1;6;6&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=2;3;7&FL=2;17;7&GA=2;12;7&HI=2;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=1;9;6&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;7&MO=1;12;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;6&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;7&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;7&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;6&TX=2;26;6&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;12;6&WA=1;9;5&WV=2;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on March 30, 2005, 06:03:51 pm
Playing as Goldwater (the scenario gave me a lot of money)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;10;7&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;40;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=3;3;3&FL=2;14;7&GA=2;12;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;6&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;7&ME=2;4;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;9&MO=2;12;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;17;5&NM=2;4;6&NY=2;43;5&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;4;7&OH=1;26;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;4;7&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;25;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;7&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Goldwater--58% 461 EVs
Johnson--41%  75 EVs

For whatever reason, DC wasn't included in this scenario.

My strategy was basically to use my money and bombard the entire nation with ads (all positive, except for my first one, which backfired in one day, but nevertheless hurt Johnson a lot).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 30, 2005, 08:57:48 pm
Intresting Result.

George W. Bush vs. John Kerry vs. myself vs. Michael Badnarik with regionalism and dynamism turned off.

Kerry was it with a wave of big scandels, power 5-9, and I did well in debates against Bush, for some reason it had me, a third party candidate debating the President. I changed the how established party to 5 though.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;10;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;27;3&GA=2;15;4&HI=0;4;3&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;3&IN=2;11;4&IA=2;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;3&MD=2;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;17;3&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;6;4&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;5;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;31;3&NC=2;15;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;20;3&OK=2;7;4&OR=2;7;3&PA=0;21;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;3&WA=2;11;3&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;10;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=0;2;3&ME1=0;1;3&ME2=0;1;3&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush- 36% PV- 348 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 161 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 29 EVs
Badnarik- 1% PV- 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 30, 2005, 10:38:05 pm
I played this were every party was on an equal playing field. Each had a 5 in established and each had $100,000,000 in funds to begin with.

The match up was Bush vs. Kerry vs. Myself vs. Badnarik. Same as above in the settings. Huge scandel against Bush in the last week led to a huge rise in both my and Badnarik's vote. A small Kerry scandel in the last two weeks also hurt him.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;3&CA=0;55;3&CO=2;9;3&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=0;27;3&GA=2;15;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;4&IN=2;11;3&IA=0;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=0;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=0;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;4&MN=0;10;3&MS=2;6;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;5;3&NH=0;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=0;5;3&NY=1;31;4&NC=1;15;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;20;3&OK=2;7;3&OR=0;7;3&PA=0;21;3&RI=0;4;3&SC=0;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;34;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=0;3;4&VA=0;13;3&WA=0;11;3&WV=0;5;3&WI=0;10;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=0;2;3&ME1=0;1;3&ME2=0;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bush- 30% PV- 171 EVs
Kerry- 33% PV- 155 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 212 EVs
Badnarik- 6% PV- 0 EVs

Best States:

Bush: Idaho- 55.3%
Kerry- New York- 43.8%
Wixted- Vermont- 40.3%
Badnarik- Nevada- 18.5%

Worst State:

Bush: Rhode Island- 21.9%
Kerry: Idaho- 20.1%
Wixted: Nevada- 16.8%
Badnarik: Maryland- 0.0% (389)

 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 04:52:01 am
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 31, 2005, 05:07:01 am
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on March 31, 2005, 05:09:23 am
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.

I noticed this too. It isn´t such a problem when you´re playing with McGovern and both states/districts are yours in the end.

Of course, your EV number is messed up when you lose D.C., er, I mean Washington.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:41:05 am
Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?

Yep, pretty much.

Wasn't even close, either; Bush got 58.5% in New York and 56 something in Illinois.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:56:47 am
Longley (myself) vs. Bush (vs. Nader vs. Badnarik):

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;4&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;4&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;7&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Longley: 430 EVs (56% PV)
Bush: 108 EVs (37% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Massachussetts (70.9%)
Bush: Louisiana (59.0%)
Nader: Vermont (19.4%)
Badnarik: North Dakota (6.0%)

Worst states:

Longley: Alaska (28.5%)
Bush: Rhode Island (22.6%)
Nader: Georgia (1.0%)
Badnarik: New Jersey (0.0%)

Top three closest states:

1. Colorado (Longley wins, 47.4-47.3)
2. Maryland (Longley wins, 49.3-48.5)
3. Utah (Bush wins, 47.6-45.2)


Yeah, uh, I think my strategy kinda worked. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HamRadioRocks on March 31, 2005, 09:10:02 am
Why do these simulations give such strange results that we haven't seen in real life (except maybe for 1976)?  If a few political junkies can do so well in unexpected places, why can't real presidential campaigns do so?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 09:51:09 am
How the hell can the same candidate get 49% in Maryland and 45% in Utah?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 10:57:03 am
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1988&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;10;5&WV=2;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 31, 2005, 11:17:31 am
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1988&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;10;5&WV=2;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.

The most unrealistic scenarios, in my mind, are the downloaded ones. Personally it seems that the scenarios that came with the game always give semi-accurate results while the scenarios made by random people are usually much further off. Could be because they over-estimated one candidate, or just didn't adjust everything to co-ordinate with the new scenario, or they just don't know much about election history.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 12:24:07 pm
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.

The most unrealistic scenarios, in my mind, are the downloaded ones. Personally it seems that the scenarios that came with the game always give semi-accurate results while the scenarios made by random people are usually much further off. Could be because they over-estimated one candidate, or just didn't adjust everything to co-ordinate with the new scenario, or they just don't know much about election history.

Are there any that come with the game aside from 60, 80, 92, and 04? Maybe I have an outdated version.

It's not that bad outside of Texas and Louisiana, and the only reason I won Louisiana was that Duke got 6 percent there, which enabled me to sneak by by 1.5. I also focused a lot on Texas, but against a Texan, I shouldn't have won it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 01:34:11 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 01:35:37 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 02:42:40 pm
I WON!

Playing as Al Gore, I beat George W. Bush 295-243. I won the PV 48-43, Nader got 7.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Best State:
Gore: New Jersey, 59.2
Bush: Idaho, 63.7
Nader: Vermont, 28.9
Browne: Montana, 3.6

Close:
West Virginia, .1
Minnesota, 0.6
Nevada, 1.3

Actually realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:46:28 pm
How the hell can the same candidate get 49% in Maryland and 45% in Utah?

Got me.  Maybe the gigantic scandal I launched on Bush a week and a half before the election was that he hated Mormons or something.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 31, 2005, 06:12:49 pm
WHEE! :)

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1.  I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

Here's how it turned out:

(http://tinyurl.com/5yl9j)

PV (B-K-N): 44% (55,847,756)- 44% (55,532,221)- 11% (14,011,201)
EV (B-K-N): 249-289-0

THE swing state: Texas.  Final tally: Kerry: 35.9%, Bush: 34.3%, Nader: 29.6%.

Kerry % map:
(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/9549/bknnndemvote9za.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Bush % map:
(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/9156/bknnnrepvote2io.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Nader % map:
(http://img108.exs.cx/img108/1600/bknnnindvote8tz.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best states:
Kerry: Michigan, 66.6%
Bush: Idaho & North Dakota, 74.2%
Nader: Texas, 29.6% (he also got, 29.4% and 2nd place in Alabama)

Worst states:
Kerry: Utah, 19.3%
Bush: New Hampshire, 27.9%
Nader: Missouri, .5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 06:48:16 pm

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1.  I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

I remember one time I was playing the 1932 scenario as Hoover.  About a week and a half before the election, it was neck-and-neck.  I thought to look at my platform and was like "wtf this platform sucks" so I completely changed it without thinking about what would happen and subsequently lost all but two states. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 31, 2005, 08:34:13 pm

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1. I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

I remember one time I was playing the 1932 scenario as Hoover. About a week and a half before the election, it was neck-and-neck. I thought to look at my platform and was like "wtf this platform sucks" so I completely changed it without thinking about what would happen and subsequently lost all but two states. :D

LOL ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 08:58:15 pm
Playing as Mondale.

392-146 Reagan wins, he won the PV 55-44.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=2;8;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;24;5&IN=2;12;6&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=1;9;6&LA=2;10;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;16;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;10;5&WV=2;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;6)

Question, which is more important to winning a debate, issue knowledge or debate skill?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 12:15:58 am
Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot (me):

My entire campaign was based around sabotaging Bush's campaign.  I did absolutely no personal campaigning whatsoever and made every single one of my speeches and ads into attacks on Bush.  All of my scandal research was against Bush.

The results:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;3&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;3&IL=1;22;5&IN=3;12;3&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;3&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=1;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;6&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=2;3;3&VA=1;13;3&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;3&WY=3;3;5&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Clinton: 417 EVs (46% PV)
Bush: 64 EVs (28% PV)
Perot: 57 EVs (24% PV)

Best states:

Clinton: Arkansas (63.6%)
Bush: Oklahoma (44.3%)
Perot: Utah (56.4%)

Worst states:

Clinton: Utah (21.2%)
Bush: Massachussetts (14.1%)
Perot: Louisiana (11.7%)

Top three closest states:

1. North Dakota (Bush wins over Perot, 34.1-33.6)
2. New Mexico (Bush wins over Clinton, 37.4-36.8)
3. Virginia (Clinton wins over Bush, 38.5-37.2)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 01:13:16 am
The 1984 scenario is officially screwed up, as I was hit by a power 9 scandal in the last week of the campaign and lost every single state except for Minnesota, New York, and... uh...

...

Texas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 01, 2005, 10:17:24 am
The 1984 scenario is officially screwed up, as I was hit by a power 9 scandal in the last week of the campaign and lost every single state except for Minnesota, New York, and... uh...

...

Texas.

I won Texas playing as Dukakis against Bush I, it's not that odd, for President Forever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 01, 2005, 12:42:10 pm
1992 Bush v. Clinton v. Perot v. Marrou (me)
 
(http://img118.exs.cx/img118/5357/19927gy.png)

Bush     33% 252
Clinton  38% 261
Perot     22%  19
Marrou   4%      3

Montana was 35.4% Marrou, 25.5% Perot, 23.5% Clinton

I came within 6 in Alaska and 7 in North Dakota and if Imageshack will start working, I'll post the screenshot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2005, 01:01:21 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 01, 2005, 01:02:55 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.

Did Santorum?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2005, 05:04:06 pm
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.

Did Santorum?

Take stands against wasteful spending? I'm sure he did a lot more than Specter. I'm not going to have this turn into an argument about who stands up to pork. I just pointed out a reason why he's a RINO and someone who stood up to it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 01, 2005, 05:33:21 pm
2004 Bush v. Kerry

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;7&CT=2;7;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=2;3;5&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;7&HI=2;4;6&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;6&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;7&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Kerry collapses under a weight of ads and scandals.  DC was decided by a thousand votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 06:49:56 pm
What the hell, as Dean again I hit Bush with a power 9 scandal a week before the election and won Oklahoma, Indiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Tennessee because of it, but I CANNOT WIN NEW YORK

WHY CAN I NOT WIN NEW YORK

I LOST THE ELECTION BECAUSE I DID NOT WIN NEW YORK

AAAAAARG

PS: I just noticed something else: I somehow won the PV 54-45, yet lost in the electoral college 253-285.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 02, 2005, 02:07:14 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Lost 312-226, playing as Gore/Landreu vs. McCain/Ridge, 2000.

Lost PV 49-40-7. The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 02, 2005, 03:11:20 pm
Here's 1912...I played as TR.  Coming into the home stretch, it looked as if I'd win the popular vote but it would be very close to whether I received enough EVs...however, Wilson was hit with 2 major scandals and Taft with 1, plus on the last day of the campaign, I ran 4 ads in all50 states, which threw states I wasn't even competitive in (mostly in the South) into my column:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nini2287/1912.png)

Roosevelt-42% 399 EV
Wilson-19%  86 EV
Debs-18% 26 EV
Taft-20% 20 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 03, 2005, 05:11:39 am
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney :D

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Kucinich
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 371

Bush
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 167


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 05:23:54 am
Mondale (me) vs. Reagan:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;6&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;36;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

Mondale: 294 EVs (49% PV)
Reagan: 244 EVs (50% PV)

Best states:

Mondale: Illinois (58.3%)
Reagan: Wisconsin (66.0%)

Worst states:

Mondale: Wisconsin (34.0%)
Reagan: Illinois (41.6%)

Closest states:

1. North Dakota (Mondale wins 50.02-49.98 - 135 votes!)
2. Pennsylvania (Mondale wins 50.1-49.8)
3. Texas (Mondale wins 50.2-49.7)


Reagan was leading in the electoral college 535-3 a week before the election, but he collapsed just enough under a power 3 scandal that I spun over and over and over again and under 3 ads running in all 50 states for the last 4 days that Mondale was able to eke out razor-thin victories in enough states to win the election.

I can now die a happy man now that I've finally won as Mondale. :)

Notable facts:

1. I managed to win while losing the home states of both Mondale and Ferraro - of course, I did compensate by winning the home state of Bush!

2. I lost the PV while winning the EV by a greater margin than Bush did in 2000.

3. I had a momentum of +993 (!) on the last day of the election.

4. One of my strategies that I may try again in light of this success was to grit my teeth and endure the loss of my base by completely changing my platform at the start of the campaign to make every single one of my stances rated as +1.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 06:18:47 am
Okay, Howard Dean again.

I hit Bush with a power 12 scandal that got augmented to power 14 a week before the election and it sat there at that level the entire time.  Meanwhile, I ran four power 5 ads for four days before the election.

I lost in the electoral college by nearly 200 electoral votes.

I have come to the conclusion that winning as Howard Dean against George W. Bush is physically impossible.

BUT I WON NEW YORK THIS TIME SO THE JOKE IS ON BUSH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 03, 2005, 08:37:42 am
I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. ;)

To answer someone's question, debate skill is more important than issue knowledge for winning the debate, but issue knowledge matters for how much of a boost you get. Also, I think being above 50 in EP matters more than you'd think.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 06:07:56 pm
I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. ;)

Fine, be that way. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 03, 2005, 06:14:20 pm
A scandal on Gore got to 22 at one point, and that's why McCain won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on April 03, 2005, 09:08:25 pm
I just won a tight game playing as myself vs. Colin Wixted. The swing states were California, Arizona, Hawaii, Wisconsin and Cnnecticut, but all the fopcus was on CA and TX. In the end, we each won one of them-I got CA and he got TX. I also got AZ and WI, but he got HI and CT. Either way, I won with something like 290 :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 04, 2005, 12:34:58 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Dean/Gephardt v Bush/Cheney v Nader v Badnarik

PV: Dean-Bush-Nader-Badnarik was 50-42-5-1

EV: Dean wins 297-241.

Best states:

Bush: Idaho 62.9%
Dean: Illinois 61.2%
Nader: Alaska 13.4%
Badnarik: California: 6.9%

Worse states:
Bush: Hawaii 30.6%
Dean: Alaska 28.6%
Nader: Missouri 1.2%
Badnarik: Mississippi 0% (23 votes)

Closest states:
Florida, where Bush won by 1.2%, 48.3% v 47.1% with Nader getting the rest.

This was an interesting election. I only got one power 5 ad throughout the entire campaign, hit Bush with two medium scandals (power 6) whereas I got hit by a power 9 scandal. I also started out about 150 EVs behind. But I managed to win despite this, somehow. I didn't take the lead until 1 day before the election. I have to admit Gabu that it was harder playing Dean than I remembered, he started out 3% behind and it became as bad as 5% before I turned it around.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 04, 2005, 03:27:11 pm
Oh, all right, I'll try Dean again. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on April 04, 2005, 03:29:04 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=3;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;3&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;3&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;6&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 05, 2005, 03:59:51 am
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 05, 2005, 03:40:54 pm
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 05, 2005, 03:51:24 pm
Man, dynamism produces weird results:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;6&CT=2;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

This is myself playing as Al Sharpton/Dick Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

Sharpton--55%  337 EV
Bush--44% 201 EV

Closest States
Iowa--Sharpton wins by about 1,700 votes
New Mexico--Sharpton wins by about 2,700 votes
Wyoming-Bush wins by about 2,700 votes

Best Bush states
North Dakota--66.1%
Connecticut--60.4%
Florida--58.3%
Ohio--58.1%
Wisconsin--57.2%

Best Sharpton states
DC--88.8%
New Jersey-71.7%
Illinois--71.3%
Rhode Island--67.7%
New York-65.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 05, 2005, 04:58:20 pm
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. :)

Screw that, I won Montana, the Dakotas, and Texas as Mondale. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 05, 2005, 05:41:18 pm
I WIN

Dean (me) vs. Bush:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Dean: 274 EVs (54% PV)
Bush: 264 EVs (45% PV)

Best states - Dean:

1. Massachussetts (70.6%)
2. New York (69.4%)
3. Maine (66.4%)

Best states - Bush:

1. Idaho (64.4%)
2. Alabama (59.5%)
3. Utah (59.2%)

Closest states:

1. Oklahoma (Bush wins 50.23-49.77)
2. North Dakota (Bush wins 50.24-49.76)
3. Mississippi (Dean wins 50.4-49.5)

Closest election I've had yet.  The only states I could have lost and still won the election were Delaware, Vermont, Rhode Island, or Maine.

PS: No, I don't know how I won the Carolinas and Mississippi while losing Minnesota and Pennsylvania. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 05, 2005, 07:26:26 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=3;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;3&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;3&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;6&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.

That's nothing compared to a result I got [I don't know when]!

(http://img131.exs.cx/img131/8082/1992perotmap0yx.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img131.exs.cx/img131/8320/1992perotperotp2jx.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img131.exs.cx/img131/7200/1992perotplaces9au.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 02:53:06 pm
Gotta Love Dynamism: Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Edwards vs. Wixted/McCain

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;3&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;3&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=3;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=3;7;3&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=3;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=1;8;5&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;3&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;3&WV=1;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush- 31% PV- 131 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 87 EVs
Wixted- 35% PV- 320 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 57.2%
Kerry: Oklahoma 52.4%
Wixted: Delaware 48.0%

Worst State (Not Including DC):

Bush: Maryland 21.8%
Kerry: Alaska 17.0%
Wixted: Virginia 14.8%

Closest States:

New Mexico (37.3% Bush-25.1% Kerry-37.4% Wixted) Wixted Win By 1,268 Votes
Connecticut (22.3% Bush-38.9 Kerry-38.7% Wixted) Kerry Win By 3,323 Votes
Georgia (37.7% Bush-24.0% Kerry-38.1% Wixted) Wixted Win By 13,376 Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 02:54:02 pm
Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 06, 2005, 02:55:42 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=2;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Argh! Came very close to winning CA with Perot.

PV was Bush 33% Clinton 34% and Perot 31%

I'm gonna keep trying...I think it's possible to win with Perot, if you have a little luck.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 06, 2005, 04:49:19 pm
Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?

Just paint and the Atlas key :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 06, 2005, 05:21:02 pm
THE REVENGE OF THE THIRD PARTIES! :D

Just for fun, I ripped off Colin's idea and made myself an independent in 2004 and gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Bush vs. Kerry vs. Longley vs. Badnarik:

(http://img86.exs.cx/img86/4006/thirdpartyrevenge3sb.png)

Bush: 243 EVs (32% PV)
Kerry: 162 EVs (30% PV)
Longley: 130 EVs (27% PV)
Badnarik: 3 EVs (9% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Washington (42.5%)
Bush: Vermont (49.3%) (?!??!!?)
Longley: Nebraska (49.3%)
Badnarik: South Dakota (29.4%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Utah (16.4%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.3%)
Longley: Missouri (15.9%)
Badnarik: New Mexico (0.0% - 343 votes)

Closest states:

1. South Dakota (Badnarik wins over Bush, 29.4-29.3)
2. Ohio (Bush wins over Longley, 28.5-28.2)
3. Colorado (Longley wins over Bush, 34.5-32.2)

After a gigantic scandal on Kerry about three and a half weeks before the election, Bush was well in the lead and Badnarik and I were hardly even on the radar.  At first it looked like he would go towards near-landslide victory, but then, well...

(http://img72.exs.cx/img72/6213/scandals7oz.jpg)

(http://img72.exs.cx/img72/5085/scandals24og.jpg)

I surged with a momentum of roughly +700 to take tons of states away from Bush and throw other states to Kerry, and, as a result, throw the election to the House.

Badnarik got up just enough momentum to take South Dakota, as well, a feat that I'm sure will make John Dibble proud of him. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 06, 2005, 06:35:08 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=3;54;3&CO=1;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=2;3;3&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;5&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=3;7;5&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=3;11;5&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;6&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;4)

Phew! This one was close...:

Bush: 36 963 395 (33%) 185 EVs
Clinton: 36 812 267 (33%) 127 EVs
Perot: 35 816 774 (33%) 226 EVs

Best states:
Bush: Georgia, 52.9%
Clinton: Arkansas, 51.7%
Perot: Wyoming 64.6%

Worse states:
Bush: Vermont, 14.1%
Clinton: Utah, 11%
Perot: Alabama, 9.2%

Closest states:
Florida, Bush-Perot-Clinton 34.4%-33.3%-32.2%
California: Perot-Clinton 37.6%-36.8%
Colorado: Clinton-Bush 36.7%-35.9%

New York, Illinois and Iowa were also very close.

If I hadn't spent all my money in the first two weeks I might have won this one. :( Still, I'm very pleased. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 06, 2005, 07:19:47 pm
Who won in the house Gustaf?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 07:23:01 pm
Party by Party Results for my last race.

(http://img101.exs.cx/img101/8812/independentmap5ew.png)

(http://img101.exs.cx/img101/3771/republicanmap5so.png)

(http://img101.exs.cx/img101/1227/democraticmap7ox.png)

I did worst in the Interior West, parts of the South, parts of the Mid-Atlantic, and parts of the Midwest. The Republican did worst in the Pacific West, Upper Midwest, Upper South, Florida and the Northeast. The Democrat worst areas were the West, the South and the Upper Northeast.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 06, 2005, 07:56:07 pm
SamSpade/Ebowed (me): 280
Andrew/John Ford: 258

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

It was a real nailbiter, only winning California 50.5-49.4, Colorado 50.5-49.4, Missouri 50.4-49.5, and I lost the PV 50-49. I got a late scandal on Andrew, that was what put me over the top.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 08:42:06 am
Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 12:41:20 pm
Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario.  I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 07:44:10 pm
Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 07:45:21 pm
What happens when Kerry runs against a perfect (all-around 5) extreme leftist candidate, using my super-long campaign scenario:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;3&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;6&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;4&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 09:39:37 pm
Badnarik

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game :P

Er, I haven't a clue what game you're playing in that case. :P  Badnarik came with the 2004 scenario I have...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 08, 2005, 09:47:31 pm
I think there was an update with him in it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 10:32:33 pm
Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;6&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=2;3;4&FL=2;10;4&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;3;5&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;27;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;10;5&KS=1;8;5&KY=1;10;5&LA=1;10;6&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;6&MA=1;16;6&MI=2;20;4&MN=1;11;6&MS=1;8;5&MO=1;13;6&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;6;5&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=1;4;6&OH=1;25;4&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;24;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;8;7&WI=1;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Kennedy: 438 EVs (55% PV)
Nixon: 99 EVs (41% PV)

Best states:

Kennedy: Rhode Island (79.8%)
Nixon: Tennessee (55.0%)

Worst states:

Kennedy: Tennessee (42.5%)
Nixon: Louisiana (16.3%)

Closest states:

1. Ohio (Kennedy wins, 49.4-49.3)
2. Indiana (Nixon wins, 49.4-48.7)
3. Idaho (Kennedy wins, 47.8-46.6)

I think that this is what you call the Big Mo':

2 days to go:

(http://img105.exs.cx/img105/3432/bigmo19km.jpg)

1 day to go:

(http://img105.exs.cx/img105/9620/bigmo25vm.jpg)

:D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 09, 2005, 01:44:37 am
Kerry (me) vs. Bush vs. Nader vs. Badnarik:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;3&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;4&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;3&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;3&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;4&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;3&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;3&SD=1;3;3&TN=1;11;4&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Kerry: 468 EVs (47% PV)
Bush: 70 EVs (33% PV)
Nader: 0 EVs (4% PV)
Badnarik: 0 EVs (13% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Rhode Island (74.7%)
Bush: Idaho (51.2%)
Nader: Alaska (13.6%)
Badnarik: Nevada (31.9%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Alaska (25.9%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.0%)
Nader: Idaho (0.2%)
Badnarik: Rhode Island (0.2%)

Closest states:

1. Utah (Bush wins over Kerry, 47.2-46.2)
2. Georgia (Kerry wins over Bush, 48.9-47.6)
3. Iowa (Kerry wins over Bush, 38.4-36.8 )

Now that's what I call a landslide - Kerry had won the election by 9:00 PM! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 09, 2005, 04:05:45 am
Being very bored, I decided to run myself against opebo, Mike Naso, and John Dibble, and given both myself and Dibble $2 billion and Naso and opebo $0 to see what would happen.  Basically, my strategy was to do absolutely nothing but spin news, run two ads at a time in all 50 states for the entire duration of the campaign, and research scandals on Naso and opebo.  Party establishment of Dibble and I were 1; the others were 5.

The result:

(http://img104.exs.cx/img104/1980/landslide6rz.png)

Longley: 521 EVs (43% PV)
Dibble: 11 EVs (14% PV)
Naso: 3 EVs (22% PV)
opebo: 3 EVs (19% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Montana (55.8%)
Dibble: Indiana (33.9%)
Naso: Alaska (46.3%)
opebo: New York (40.2%)

NOTE: I don't usually mention DC because it's horribly boring, but it should be noted that opebo won DC with only 56.4%.

Worst states:

Longley: Indiana (28.8%)
Dibble: California (1.9%)
Naso: Rhode Island (7.1%)
opebo: Wyoming (0.0% - 6 votes!!!!!!!!)

Closest states:

1. Alaska (Naso wins over Longley, 46.3-44.7)
2. Indiana (Dibble wins over Naso, 33.9-31.2)
3. Oklahoma (Longley wins over Dibble, 34.2-30.7)

Just for fun, here's a screenshot of the absolutely hilarious Wyoming result:

(http://img85.exs.cx/img85/7784/wyoming8qb.jpg)

and a very similar Utah result:

(http://img85.exs.cx/img85/6865/utah4bf.jpg)

and just for kicks, here's the PV bar with the pictures I used for each character. :)

(http://img85.exs.cx/img85/6729/pvbar9sy.jpg)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 09, 2005, 01:42:19 pm
I gave Perot a try...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;4&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=3;4;3&ID=3;4;4&IL=2;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;3&MA=3;12;5&MI=1;18;3&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=1;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=2;33;3&NC=2;14;5&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;7;5&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;5&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;5&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Clinton got socked with 3-4 scandals, while Bush and I were ok scandal-wise.  Clinton won one debate, another was a tie, and I (Perot) triumphed in third debate.

Bush--36% 246 EV
Clinton--27% 83 EV
Perot--33% 209 EV
Marrou--2% 0 EV

Best states
Bush--North Carolina 59.3%
Clinton--DC 53.5%/Rhode Island 48.3%
Perot--Oregon 53.6%

Closest states:
Colorado-Perot 39.2%/Bush 38.9%
Montana-Clinton 40.7%/Perot 39.4%
New York-Bush 37.6%/Clinton 36.8%
Michigan--Clinton 35.6%/Perot 34.1%/Bush 30.2%

Despite his poor performance, the House picked Bill Clinton for President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on April 09, 2005, 07:09:43 pm
(http://xs21.xs.to/pics/05125/absolute.png)
This is my best all time result. I won several times as Perot, Nader, Anderson, etc. The best result in PM Forever, however, I won as Layton with 180 seats and I won my D.C. Council scenario with Ralph Nader once.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on April 09, 2005, 10:16:26 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;7&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=1;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=1;7;4&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;4&NM=1;4;4&NY=1;41;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;5&PA=2;27;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

1980 Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson

Carter 51% (51,308,126 votes) 343 EVs
Reagan 41% (42,024,861 votes) 195 EVs
Anderson 7% (7,098,525 votes) 0 EVs

Closest States

Carter

New Mexico by 0.1% (297 votes)
Wisconsin by 0.8%
Maryland by 0.8%
California by 0.8%
Kansas by 1.8%

Reagan closest states

Pennsylvania by 1.8%
New Jersey by 3%


Best states

Carter-Alabama (74.9%)
Reagan-Idaho (66.9%)
Anderson-Arizona (25.1%)

It was a good game, overall. We each had a major scandal but I pressed ard on soviet aggression and inflation, and got there in the end.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 10, 2005, 07:04:07 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=3;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;3&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=1;12;3&IA=1;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;3&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=1;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

My 3rd attempt with Perot...this one went badly, I chrushed Bush in the beginning but Clinton managed to capitalize on it despite being hit with several scandals.

I beat Bush in the electoral college, at least. :)

Oh, and Jake, the house always picks Clinton in the 1992 scenario, I think. Just like they always pick Bush in the 2004 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 10, 2005, 10:12:03 am
YAY!

1976: Carter landslide. Ford got hit by two scandals a week before the election (one of them had a power of 10 or 11, if I recall correctly) and I spun them as long as I could.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;6;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;4&CT=2;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=1;10;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=2;21;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;6&NM=1;4;6&NY=1;41;6&NC=1;13;6&ND=1;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;4;4&TN=1;10;6&TX=1;26;6&UT=2;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;9;6&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

Carter
Popular Vote: 56%
Electoral Vote: 434

Ford
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 104

McCarthy
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 10, 2005, 10:50:29 am
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;23;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Reagan
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 294

Mondale
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 244


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on April 10, 2005, 10:58:30 am
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

did you have dynamism on?

It's not that hard to alter scenarios you know, fixing 1972 shouldn't be too hard.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 04:07:02 pm
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 10, 2005, 07:46:44 pm
Mondale (me) vs. Reagan:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;6&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;36;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)


You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 07:49:08 pm
Mondale (me) vs. Reagan:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;6&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;36;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)


You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. ???

Dynamism does some strange things.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on April 10, 2005, 08:41:00 pm
Just played a good 1860 game.   I was Bell and did worse than historically.  Some minor scandals throughout on every candidate but me, Lincoln won the debates.  I was close in a number of states througout (NC, TN, MD, LA, GA) but ended up with only two (KY and VI).  No one recived a mjority, so Congrees picked Douglas.

Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Lincoln- 28%, 64 electoral votes
Douglas- 27%, 97 electoral votes
Breckenridge- 26%, 115 electoral votes
Bell 17%, 27 electoral votes

Changes for History

Lincoln loses Oregon, California, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

Douglas gains Oregon, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire.

Breckenridge gains Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and California

Bell loses Tennessee.

Best States:
Lincoln: Vermont, 74.1%
Douglas: Michigan, 52.4%
Breckenridge: Texas, 75.4%
Bell: Virginia, 47.9%

Worst States:
Lincoln: Florida, 0% (20)
Douglas: Texas, 0.1%
Breckenridge: Illinois, 0.5%
Bell: Illinois 0% (231)

Closest States:
Oregon: Douglas voer Breckenridge 42.0 to 41.8
Maine: Lincoln over Douglas 45.2 to 44.6
New Jersey: Douglas over Lincoln 49.6 to 48.5


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 10:49:57 pm
Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Given that the EV Calculator feature only goes back to 1896, the easiest way would probably be to save a copy of the map on this page (http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/pe1860.html) to your hard drive and then use MS Paint to repaint the states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 11, 2005, 06:28:29 pm
Playing as Mondale

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=2;8;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=1;12;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;24;5&IN=1;12;6&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;6&LA=2;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;36;5&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;10;5&WV=2;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;6)

451-87

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;6&GA=1;12;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;6&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;6&LA=2;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;36;5&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;23;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;10;5&WV=2;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;6)

313-225, giving me an extra 5%. Was pretty close toward the end, lost PV 53-46.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 12, 2005, 06:04:24 am
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. :)

Okay, thanks. Perhaps I will try it... as soon as I have the time for it. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 12, 2005, 12:17:57 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=3;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;3&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=1;7;3&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;3&WA=3;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=3;2;3&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;3&NE3=2;1;4)

Almost managed to get Clinton in the end this time, but somehow the scandal on him just wouldn't stick. :(

Bush: 29%, 143 EVs
Clinton: 38%, 244 EVs
Perot: 31%, 151 EVs

I came very close in several states, especially Alaska, Oregon, Kansas and Missouri. Clinton's win in Kansas was due to the fact that I demolished Bush there with negative campaigning (27.5% in Kansas for a Republican...ouch).

Once again, Vermont was Bush's weakest state giving him an abysmal 14.7%. In DC Bush got only 5.7%. For Clinton it was South Dakota, 16.7%. My worse was Alabama where I got 12%. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 12, 2005, 01:43:53 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=3;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=3;54;5&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;4&GA=1;13;5&HI=3;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;5&IN=3;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;5&MI=1;18;3&MN=3;10;4&MS=3;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;5&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=3;33;4&NC=3;14;5&ND=3;3;6&OH=1;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;6&SC=3;8;5&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;6&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Hehe...I got bored and decided to play with dynamism on. Had forgot how easy that makes it...I had a constant of 13% until it was like 2 weeks left (I had too little support to participate in the first two debates). I then surged 8 points to 21%, won the third debate. Clinton had been hit with scandals previously and was pretty much out at this stage, Bush was the leading candidate. I got a power 9 scandal on him, another power 9 scandal came along on him. These two got spun for the rest of the campaign, lowering his momentum to about -400 with Clinton at -100 and me at about +75. In the last poll I had gained 8% and 216 EVs getting me to 31% and 256 EVs. On election day it was a blow-out. Clinton and Bush both lost about 50 EVs each from the day before the election to election day.

Perot: 44%, 370 EVs
Clinton: 29%, 107 EVs
Bush: 26%, 61 EVs

Best states:
Perot: Washington, 67.3%
Clinton: Arkansas, 64.5% (this is the only time it's not DC!)
Bush: Louisiana, 50.7%

Worse states:
Perot: Arkansas, 14.7%
Clinton: Utah, 11.1%
Bush: Massachusetts, 12.7% (DC, 4.6%)

Closest states:
Iowa: CLinton beats Perot 39%-36.8%
Virginia: Bush beats Perot 42.8%-40.6%

I'd like to have it noted that I lost DC to Clinton 41.8%-53.4%, which I consider to be very good. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 12, 2005, 04:17:22 pm
Quiz: What election and what kind of scenario is this supposed to be? ;)
Hint: A rather exotic one. :D


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;5&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;22;4&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;8&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;3&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;7&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=1;3;6&OH=2;21;4&OK=1;8;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;4&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;4&TX=1;32;5&UT=2;5;3&VT=3;3;7&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;7&WI=1;11;4&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;9)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on April 13, 2005, 08:17:24 pm
I tried to see how much of a blowout against Mondale I could get as Reagan:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;8&AK=2;3;8&AZ=2;10;8&AR=2;6;7&CA=2;55;7&CO=2;9;8&CT=2;7;8&DE=2;3;8&DC=2;3;6&FL=2;27;8&GA=2;15;8&HI=2;4;8&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;7&IN=2;11;8&IA=2;7;7&KS=2;6;8&KY=2;8;9&LA=2;9;9&MD=2;10;8&MA=2;12;7&MI=2;17;8&MN=2;10;8&MS=2;6;8&MO=2;11;8&MT=2;3;9&NV=2;5;8&NH=2;4;8&NJ=2;15;9&NM=2;5;9&NY=2;31;8&NC=2;15;9&ND=2;3;9&OH=2;20;9&OK=2;7;9&OR=2;7;8&PA=2;21;8&RI=2;4;8&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;3;9&TN=2;11;9&TX=2;34;8&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;8&VA=2;13;9&WA=2;11;9&WV=2;5;9&WI=2;10;9&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;7&ME1=2;1;7&ME2=2;1;7&NE=2;2;9&NE1=2;1;9&NE2=2;1;9&NE3=2;1;9)

Electoral Vote
Reagan: 538
Mondale: 0

Popular Vote
Reagan: 86% (85,970,677)
Mondale: 13% (13,735,135)

Best States
Reagan - Utah
Reagan:  100.0% (642,728)
Mondale:  0.0% (1) !!!

Mondale - Washington, D.C.
Reagan:  61.9% (173,790)
Mondale:  38.0%  !!! (106,716)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 13, 2005, 09:06:47 pm
In my 1996 Scenario "The Contract With America" (I have yet to submit it to P4E) I ran Stormin' Norman Schwarzkoph against President Clinton and threw Perot in as a funny factor. I did quite well playing as H. Ross:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Norman Schwarzkoph/Arlen Specter: 266 Electoral Votes; 40% of the popular vote

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 251 Electoral Votes; 41% of the popular vote

H. Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 21 Electoral Votes; 16% of the popular vote

Harry Browne/Jo Jorgensen: 0 Electoral Votes; 0% of the popular vote (over a million popular votes though)

The Republican Dominated House elected Stormin' Norman.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on April 15, 2005, 11:39:27 am
Ford v. Carter 1976

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6)

Gerald Ford/ Bod Dole: 313 EV   52% PV

Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 225 EV  47% PV

Interesting race.  I was Ford.  Started out barely ahead, then I slumped quite a bit near the mid point (at one point I was down 5% in the polls and had only about 220 EV's) then started to gain momentum again by consentrating on the states where Carter was way ahead but there were a number of undecideds (Alabama, Maryland, California and New York were the big ones).  Came back to win by a sizable margin, but it really could have went either way in the final week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 20, 2005, 11:06:27 pm
Man, dynamism makes it too easy, myself (McGovern) vs. Nixon

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=1;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;7&IN=1;13;6&IA=1;8;7&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;7&MO=1;12;6&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;5;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;41;5&NC=1;13;8&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;7&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;8&SC=1;8;7&SD=1;4;5&TN=1;10;7&TX=1;26;7&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;12;7&WA=1;9;7&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7)

I ran a good (power 5 or 6) ad against Nixon in the beginning, followed up with ads of my own.  We tied one debate and Nixon won the other.  With a week to go, Nixon got hit with two major scandals and I got hit with one, but mine was spun down quickly.

McGovern/Schriver--61% 455 EV
Nixon/Agnew--38% 83 EV

Best McGovern states:
D.C.:  86.0%
Rhode Island:  81.5%
North Carolina (!):  80.6%
Washington:  79.0%
Ohio:   78.4%

Best Nixon states:
Idaho:  60.2%
New York:  56.7%
Alaska:  55.5%
Arkansas:  54.4%
North Dakota:  52.9%

Closest State:
Delaware:  McGovern wins 50.0-49.9  (131346 to 131124)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 22, 2005, 11:01:45 am
I actually succeeded in winning a electoral majority in 1992.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;3&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;3&MI=1;18;3&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;3&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=3;5;3&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;3&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

Clinton
Popular Vote: 42%
Electoral Vote: 286

Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 237

Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 15


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2005, 11:57:23 am
Re: Mondale:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;21;5&GA=2;12;4&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=2;20;4&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;36;6&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;23;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;6&WA=2;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=1;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5)

Reagan v Mondale

PV was Mondale 54-45, EV 375-163

Best states:
Mondale:
Rhode Island: 69.8%
New York: 66.7%
New Mexico: 66.1%
Minnesota: 64.2%
Oregon: 63.2%
New Jersey: 62%
Virginia: 61.5%
Massachusetts: 60.5%

Reagan:
Alaska: 61.6%
Utah: 61.3%
Idaho: 59.8%

Worse states:
The converse...this was a two-man race.

Closest states:
Michigan, Reagan by 0.3% (12 309 votes)
Wyoming, Mondale by 1.5% (3 208 votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2005, 11:58:23 am
Mondale-Reagan was easier than I had anticipated...Reagan led throughout the campaign but I swung it to myself in the end. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 05:05:57 am
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;4&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=2;1;6)

Running myself with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s against Bush. PV I won 54-41, EV 427-111.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 27, 2005, 06:16:30 am
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;4&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=2;1;6)

Running myself with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s against Bush. PV I won 54-41, EV 427-111.

could you run me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 11:05:36 am
Ok, who do you wanna run against what are your stats and so on?

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=1;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;3&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=3;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=2;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;3&WA=3;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=3;11;3&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Sooner or later I will win as Perot. :P

Without dynamism it's pretty hard though...PV was Clinton-Bush-Perot 34-33-32. Funny how the EV and PV were reversed; I won the EV before Bush with Clinton last, 226-194-118.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 12:04:58 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=2;3;3&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=3;12;3&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;5&PA=3;23;5&RI=3;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;3&WA=3;11;5&WV=1;5;3&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;4)

This one was darn close! :( I got 34% of the PV and 248 EVs. Bush got 33% and 100 EVs, Clinton 31% and 190 EVs. (Clinton got Illinois, California and New York, but that was pretty much it for him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 02:16:04 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;3&CT=2;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=3;12;5&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;4&NJ=3;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;5&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;6&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;6&VA=1;13;3&WA=3;11;6&WV=1;5;3&WI=2;11;5&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Ok, this was just too much...

Perot: 268 EVs, 37% (41 359 273 votes)

Clinton: 126 EVs, 31% (34 380 877 votes)

Bush: 144 EVs, 30% (33 771 318 votes)

Deciding state: Connecticut where the results were:
Bush: 40.1% (580 679)
Perot: 39.3% (568 060)
Clinton: 20.4% (294 719)

I was 1300 votes from winning! :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 27, 2005, 03:01:05 pm
Ok, who do you wanna run against what are your stats and so on?  Anything 1992 I guess...



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on April 29, 2005, 03:23:42 pm
Ah, good ol' Dynamism:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;6&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;6&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 01, 2005, 06:41:29 pm
I finally did it. As Hoover I beat FDR in the 1932 Scenario! :D

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1932&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;11;8&AZ=1;3;6&AR=1;9;8&CA=1;22;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;7;7&GA=1;12;9&ID=1;4;5&IL=2;29;5&IN=2;14;5&IA=2;11;5&KS=2;9;5&KY=1;11;5&LA=1;10;9&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;8;6&MA=2;17;5&MI=2;19;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=1;9;9&MO=1;15;6&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;7;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;4&NM=1;3;6&NY=2;47;5&NC=1;13;6&ND=1;4;6&OH=2;26;4&OK=1;11;7&OR=1;5;5&PA=2;36;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;9&SD=1;4;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;23;8&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;11;6&WA=1;8;5&WV=2;8;5&WI=1;12;6&WY=1;3;5)

 Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis: 269 Electoral; 52% (74,874,084) popular

 Franklin Roosevelt/John N. Gardner: 262 Electoral; 42% (60,989,298) popular

Norman Thomas/Thomas Maurer: 0 Electoral; 3% (4,446,080) popular

William Foster/James Ford: 0 Electoral, 1% (2,398,905) popular votes

Thank God for Norman Thomas. His 7.8% in New York gave me the state and the election by 1,788 votes!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 03, 2005, 02:56:38 pm
I may now have the strangest map ever:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

This was a 2008 scenario with made up candidates, I was playing as a moderate libertarian-esque Democrat from NY against a populist conservative candidate from AR.

For a bit in this game, the Republican had 8-point leads in MA and IL and I had leads in ND and NE.

Close states (less than 5%)
Wyoming Dem +2.7
Georgia Dem +1.7
Iowa Dem +0.7
Missouri GOP +1.7
Kansas GOP +1.9
Hawaii GOP +2.5
Utah GOP +2.9


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 06, 2005, 06:45:25 am
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=2;10;4&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

I decided to run the Swedish PM against Bush and loaded his stats and platform as best I could. The result:

Persson/Nuder: 54% and 425 EVs
Bush/Cheney: 40% and 113 EVs
Nader/Camejo: 3%
Badnarik: 1%

I started out 41%-45% though and it got to 41%-46% before I turned it around.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 06, 2005, 09:24:15 am
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;6&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;7&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;8)

Bush/Cheney (me) v Clark/Edwards, no others.

Bush: 62% (77 088 439 votes) and 508 EVs
Clark: 37% (47 133 202 votes) and 30 EVs

Best states:
Bush:
Wyoming: 80.1%
Idaho: 79.2%
Utah: 78.1%

Clark:
Florida: 53.7%
Delaware: 47.1%
Iowa: 46.5%

(DC was 59-41 to Clark)

Closest states were Clark's 3 best. ;)

I broke 60% in both the northwest (WA and OR) and upper New England (ME, VT, NH) as well as in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 07, 2005, 09:19:01 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1988&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;47;5&CO=1;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;8;7&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;7&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;5;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;36;6&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;6&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;25;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;7&TX=1;29;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;10;6&WV=1;6;7&WI=1;11;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6)

Dukakis: 60%, 522 EVs
Bush: 37%: 16 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 07, 2005, 12:21:18 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1988&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;47;5&CO=1;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;8;7&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;7&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;5;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;36;6&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;23;6&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;25;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;7&TX=1;29;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;10;6&WV=1;6;7&WI=1;11;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6)

Dukakis: 60%, 522 EVs
Bush: 37%: 16 EVs

Wow, I´m impressed. ;)



Finally, I have succeeded in building up enough Mondale-mentum to win the 1984 election. :D

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;23;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;25;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;29;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 288

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 250


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 08, 2005, 04:33:11 pm
I slaughtered Johnson as Goldwater in 1964 through two highly successful negative ads and three major scandals.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;10;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;5;8&AR=2;6;7&CA=2;40;6&CO=2;6;7&CT=2;8;7&DE=2;3;6&DC=3;3;9&FL=2;14;8&GA=2;12;8&HI=2;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;26;7&IN=2;13;7&IA=2;9;7&KS=2;7;7&KY=2;9;7&LA=2;10;8&ME=2;4;7&MD=2;10;7&MA=2;14;7&MI=2;21;7&MN=2;10;7&MS=2;7;9&MO=2;12;7&MT=2;4;7&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;3;7&NH=2;4;7&NJ=2;17;7&NM=2;4;7&NY=2;43;7&NC=2;13;7&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;26;7&OK=2;8;7&OR=2;6;7&PA=2;29;7&RI=2;4;8&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;4;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;25;7&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;7&VA=2;12;7&WA=2;9;7&WV=1;7;5&WI=2;12;7&WY=2;3;7)

Best 5 Goldwater states:
1-Mississippi  94.5%
2-Louisiana 82.9%
3-Georgia 82.8%
4-South Carolina 82.6%
5-Florida 80.3%

Best 5 Johnson states:
1-West Virginia 53.0%
2-California 32.5%
3-Rhode Island 31.4%
4-Delaware 30.2%
5-Alabama-30.1% (only because I ran less ads here, since the state was already locked up)

For whatever reason, DC was not included in this scenario.  I also won the PV 75-24


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 09, 2005, 11:42:11 am
No, this has nothing to do with Perot... this was the "The Driver - 2012" scenario, played in the standard configuration with Whitman.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;4&AK=3;3;5&AZ=3;8;5&AR=2;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=3;12;3&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=3;10;3&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;5&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;5&VA=1;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;3&WI=3;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)


Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 311

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 174

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 26%
Electoral Vote: 53

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 09, 2005, 01:34:32 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;10;8&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;5;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;14;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;6&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;7&ME=2;4;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;9&MO=2;12;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;6&NY=2;43;6&NC=2;13;7&ND=2;4;6&OH=2;26;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;29;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;7&SD=2;4;7&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;25;6&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;6&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;7)

Goldwater v LBJ -I

GOldwater: 61% and 485 EVs
LBJ: 38% and 51 EVs

Best states:
Goldwater:
 Mississippi: 94.1%
Alabama: 84.3%
The Carolinas: 74.6% in both
Lousiana: 74.5%

LBJ:
West Virginia: 61.4%
Hawaii: 52.8%
California: 50.4%

Funny how easy this was...

And, Old EUrope, the DUkais scenario is pretty easy to win, Dukakis is heavily favoured. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 09, 2005, 09:14:12 pm
Just a weird election over all...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Me/Denny Hastert v. Gore/Clark

Close Ones!
-Lost New York by 60,000 votes
-Won Oregon by 5,000 votes
-Won Connecticut by 12,000 votes
-Won Pennsylvania by less than 200,000 votes

That's Just Messed Up!
-Gore wins Arizona by nearly 200,000 votes and loses New Mexico by around 13,000.
-Nearly winning New York, overcoming an 11 point deficit in only two weeks of work.
-Gore takes 48.5% of the vote in Kansas.

Triumphful <Deleted>-Kickings!
-California, 62.1-37.9
-Ohio, 60.5-39.4
-Michigan, 57.4-42.5
-Taking Illinois by about 80,000 votes after never seeing it go red all game with six weeks of effort.

Final Score
Me 423, 54%
Gore 115, 45%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 09, 2005, 09:24:02 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Did you have dynamism on?  That's the only way I can account for Gore winning Arizona but not Tennessee. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 09, 2005, 10:21:48 pm
Nope, I never play with dynamism.

That's what makes it so weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 10, 2005, 11:27:12 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;6&GA=2;13;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;4&MI=2;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;33;4&NC=2;14;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;32;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;8)

Max Power's scenario

Bush/Cheney: 58%, 73 089 508 votes and 535 EVs
Gore/Kerry: 34%, 43 320 418 votes and 3 EVs
Nader: 3%
Buchanan: 2%

Best states:

Bush:
Nebraska: 71%
Idaho: 69.3%
Utah: 68.4%

Gore:
Rhode Island: 42.6%
Massachussetts: 42.6%
New York: 42%

Worse states:
Massachussetts: 49.6%
New YOrk: 49.9%
Rhode Island: 50.8%

DC was Gore 56.5% Bush 36%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 10, 2005, 05:03:38 pm
Back with myself as an Independent.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;5&GA=3;13;3&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;3&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;4&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;3&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;13;4&WA=3;11;3&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush- 163 EVs 37% PV
Kerry- 190 EVs 34% PV
Wixted- 185 EVs 27% PV

Best States (excluding DC):

Bush: Idaho 63.5%
Kerry: Illinois 51.8%
Wixted: Vermont 47.5%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Oregon 23.7%
Kerry: Utah 18.6%
Wixted: Texas 15.5%

(http://img145.echo.cx/img145/3038/republicanmap39cc.png)

(http://img145.echo.cx/img145/2333/democraticmap39lx.png)

(http://img145.echo.cx/img145/5604/independentmap37xd.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 10, 2005, 06:35:08 pm
Played as Perot in 1992 and won!!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=3;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;3&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;3&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;5&MA=3;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=3;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;5&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Bush- 137 EVs 34% PV
Clinton- 130 EVs 31% PV
Perot- 271 EVs 33% PV

Best State (excluding DC):

Bush: Wyoming 58.7%
Clinton: Arkansas 60.3%
Perot: Texas 49.5%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Iowa and Rhode Island 13.1%
Clinton: Arizona 12.4%
Perot: Tennessee 9.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 11, 2005, 04:56:52 pm
Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Lieberman vs. Wixted/McCain

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=3;6;5&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;4&MD=3;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;3&WV=3;5;4&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=2;2;3&ME1=2;1;3&ME2=2;1;3&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Bush: 37% PV 229 EVs
Kerry: 31% PV 92 EVs
Wixted: 30% 217 EVs

Best State (excluding DC):

Bush: Montana 60.3%
Kerry: Michigan 57.2%
Wixted: Kansas 50.1%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Rhode Island 19.0%
Kerry: Idaho 17.8%
Wixted: Tennessee 16.1%

DC Results:

Bush: 14.6%
Kerry: 58%
Wixted: 27.3%

Closest State:

Vermont: 1051 votes seperating Wixted and Kerry. 24.8-37.7-37.3


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 13, 2005, 11:48:37 am
I just wanted to post an odd map... this is the "Liberal States of America - 2008" scenario, played with Dean. And don´t ask me why Indiana is part of the Liberal States.

Colours:
Red - Dean
Green - Nader
Light Blue (California) - Kerry
Dark Blue - Blue, eh, I mean, Red States ("Conservative States of America")


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;9&AK=2;3;9&AZ=2;8;9&AR=2;6;9&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;9&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;9&GA=2;13;9&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;9&IL=1;22;4&IN=3;12;3&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;9&KY=2;8;9&LA=2;9;9&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;9&MO=2;11;9&MT=2;3;9&NV=2;4;9&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=2;5;9&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;9&ND=2;3;9&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;9&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;9&SD=2;3;9&TN=2;11;9&TX=2;32;9&UT=2;5;9&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;9&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;9&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;9&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;9&NE1=2;1;9&NE2=2;1;9&NE3=2;1;9)


Howard Dean (Socialist)
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 128

Ralph Nader (Green)
Popular Vote: 26%
Electoral Vote: 107

John Kerry (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 23%
Electoral Vote: 55

Arnold Schwarzenegger (Republican)
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 0

Election was tied, Congress chose John Kerry (and this is now called "democracy"...).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 13, 2005, 03:51:57 pm
Colin Wixted (stats taken from Jake's contest)/Bob Ehrlick vs. Kerry/Edwards

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

Wixted: 317 EVs 51% PV
Kerry: 221 EVs 48% PV

Best State (excluding DC)":

Wixted: Idaho 69.7%
Kerry: Washington 60.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 13, 2005, 04:11:06 pm
Colin Wixted (stats taken from Jake's contest)/Bob Ehrlick vs. Kerry/Edwards

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

Wixted: 317 EVs 51% PV
Kerry: 221 EVs 48% PV

Best State (excluding DC)":

Wixted: Idaho 69.7%
Kerry: Washington 60.3%

That's one of the most actually possible results President Forever has come out with.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 14, 2005, 06:21:51 am
1912, played with Roosevelt:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;12;4&AZ=3;3;5&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;4&CO=3;6;4&CT=3;7;4&DE=2;3;4&FL=1;6;4&GA=1;14;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;29;3&IN=1;15;3&IA=3;13;4&KS=3;10;3&KY=3;13;3&LA=1;10;4&ME=3;6;3&MD=3;8;4&MA=3;18;3&MI=3;15;3&MN=3;12;4&MS=1;10;4&MO=1;18;3&MT=3;4;4&NE=3;8;4&NV=2;3;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;14;3&NM=3;3;3&NY=1;45;3&NC=1;12;4&ND=3;5;4&OH=3;24;3&OK=2;10;3&OR=3;5;4&PA=3;38;3&RI=1;5;5&SC=1;9;5&SD=3;5;3&TN=1;12;4&TX=1;20;3&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;4;4&VA=1;12;4&WA=3;7;4&WV=3;8;5&WI=3;13;3&WY=3;3;4)


Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 30%
Electoral Vote: 280

Wilson
Popular Vote: 29%
Electoral Vote: 223

Taft
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 28

Debs
Popular Vote: 16%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 14, 2005, 02:02:30 pm
I won as Taft, easily defeating TR, Wilson, and debs:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;12;4&AZ=1;3;4&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;3&CO=3;6;3&CT=2;7;3&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;6;3&GA=1;14;7&ID=2;4;3&IL=2;29;3&IN=1;15;4&IA=2;13;3&KS=2;10;3&KY=3;13;4&LA=1;10;7&ME=2;6;3&MD=2;8;4&MA=1;18;3&MI=3;15;3&MN=2;12;3&MS=2;10;8&MO=2;18;4&MT=2;4;3&NE=2;8;4&NV=1;3;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;14;4&NM=3;3;4&NY=2;45;4&NC=1;12;5&ND=1;5;3&OH=2;24;4&OK=2;10;4&OR=2;5;3&PA=2;38;3&RI=2;5;3&SC=2;9;9&SD=2;5;5&TN=1;12;5&TX=1;20;7&UT=2;4;3&VT=2;4;3&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;7;3&WV=3;8;4&WI=2;13;4&WY=1;3;3)

William Taft (R): 35% of the Pop. Vote; 331 Electoral Votes

Woodrow Wilson: 27% of the Pop. Vote; 142 Electoral Votes

Theodore Roosevelt: 23% of the Pop. Vote; 58 Electoral Votes

Eugene Debs: 13% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 14, 2005, 04:01:28 pm
South Carolina :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 14, 2005, 05:05:21 pm
South Carolina :o

Debs, Wilson, and Roosevelt split the vote! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 14, 2005, 10:27:12 pm
South Carolina :o

Debs, Wilson, and Roosevelt split the vote! :D

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;4&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;5&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;6&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;6&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;7&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;7&NM=3;5;7&NY=3;33;7&NC=3;14;7&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;7&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;8&PA=3;23;8&RI=3;4;8&SC=3;8;7&SD=3;3;6&TN=3;11;7&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;8&VA=3;13;8&WA=3;11;8&WV=3;5;8&WI=3;11;8&WY=3;3;7&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 15, 2005, 12:16:41 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;10;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;5;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;40;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=2;3;8&FL=2;14;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;6&LA=2;10;5&ME=1;4;6&MD=2;10;6&MA=1;14;7&MI=2;21;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;7;8&MO=2;12;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;43;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;26;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;29;6&RI=1;4;8&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;25;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;6&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;5)[/img]

Reverse '64 landslide in Goldwater's favor!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on May 15, 2005, 12:44:59 am
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

This is without dynamism, by the way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 02:04:26 am
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

This is without dynamism, by the way.

Out of curiosity, what was the strategy? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 02:11:21 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;10;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;5;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;40;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=2;3;8&FL=2;14;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;6&LA=2;10;5&ME=1;4;6&MD=2;10;6&MA=1;14;7&MI=2;21;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;7;8&MO=2;12;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;43;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;26;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;29;6&RI=1;4;8&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;25;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;6&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;5)[/img]

Reverse '64 landslide in Goldwater's favor!

He lost Arizona???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 02:13:59 pm
South Carolina :o

Debs, Wilson, and Roosevelt split the vote! :D

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;4&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;5&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;6&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;6&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;7&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;7&NM=3;5;7&NY=3;33;7&NC=3;14;7&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;7&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;8&PA=3;23;8&RI=3;4;8&SC=3;8;7&SD=3;3;6&TN=3;11;7&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;8&VA=3;13;8&WA=3;11;8&WV=3;5;8&WI=3;11;8&WY=3;3;7&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)

BTW, I am going to post my re-election result when I ran for the D and R endorsements, got the R, and faced a general campaign against Barbara Boxer (D) and Ed Thompson (L).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 03:13:09 pm
Alvarez/Lieberman (I/R-CA) v. Boxer/Obama (D-CA) and Thompson/Johnson (L-WI):

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;9&AK=3;3;8&AZ=3;8;9&AR=3;6;9&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;8&CT=3;8;6&DE=3;3;6&DC=3;3;9&FL=3;25;9&GA=3;13;9&HI=3;4;6&ID=3;4;9&IL=3;22;7&IN=3;12;9&IA=3;7;8&KS=3;6;9&KY=3;8;9&LA=3;9;9&MD=3;10;8&MA=3;12;7&MI=3;18;9&MN=3;10;9&MS=3;7;9&MO=3;11;9&MT=3;3;9&NV=3;4;9&NH=3;4;9&NJ=3;15;9&NM=3;5;9&NY=3;33;9&NC=3;14;9&ND=3;3;9&OH=3;21;8&OK=3;8;9&OR=3;7;9&PA=3;23;9&RI=3;4;9&SC=3;8;9&SD=3;3;9&TN=3;11;9&TX=3;32;9&UT=3;5;9&VT=3;3;9&VA=3;13;9&WA=3;11;9&WV=3;5;9&WI=3;11;9&WY=3;3;9&ME=3;2;8&ME1=3;1;8&ME2=3;1;8&NE=3;2;9&NE1=3;1;9&NE2=3;1;9&NE3=3;1;9)

Electoral College
Alvarez - 538
Boxer - 0
Thompson - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 86% (101,961,641)
Boxer - 7% (8,953,626)
Thompson - 6% (6,634,886)

Best States
Alvarez: Pennsylvania - 96.3% (4,926,042) I hope I won PA-13! ;)
Boxer: California - 45.8% (6,485,430) Boxer is more popular than me in our homestate, I guess
Thompson: Utah - 8.6% (80,249) Utah is definately Libertarian-land ;)

Worst States
Alvarez: California - 48.3% (6,852,940)
Boxer: Montana - 0.0% (13) If you look at just Kerry states, then New Hampshire is Boxer's worst with just 44 votes!
Thompson: D.C. - 0.0% (82) Other than this, Thompson got at least 3.5% in every state.

Closer Look at Homestates:
California (Boxer and Alvarez)
Alvarez - 48.3% (6,852,940)
Boxer - 45.8% (6,485,430) Boxer campaigned here for the last 10
Thompson - 5.7% (810,477)

Connecticut (Lieberman)
Alvarez - 68.1% (969,939)
Boxer - 26.0% (369,882)
Thompson - 5.8% (82,196)

Illinois (Obama)
Alvarez - 76.5% (3,979,212)
Boxer - 17.2% (892,060)
Thompson - 6.2% (323,737)

Wisconsin (Thompson)
Alvarez - 93.6% (2,112,554)
Thompson - 5.8% (130,636)
Boxer - 0.5% (10,313)

New Mexico (Johnson)
Alvarez - 93.6% (709,919)
Thompson - 6.3% (48,158)
Boxer - 0.0% (210)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on May 15, 2005, 03:15:47 pm
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

This is without dynamism, by the way.

Out of curiosity, what was the strategy? :D

Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 03:19:16 pm
Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.

That isn't odd, that is what everybody does! ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 04:33:19 pm
Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.

That isn't odd, that is what everybody does! ;)

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I do.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 15, 2005, 05:24:16 pm
Just to annoy the heck out of Phil I ran Phil Breseden (who I played as) against Rick Santorum in the "Ultimate-2008" Scenario.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Phil Breseden/Russ Feingold: 52% of the Pop. Vote; 380 Electoral Votes

Rick Santorum/John Thune: 43% of Pop. Vote; 158 Electoral Votes

Jim Gorman/Barry Hess: 3% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

I'll give ya' one thing though, this scenario is biased against the Santorum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 15, 2005, 05:42:51 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1964&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;10;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;5;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;40;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=2;3;8&FL=2;14;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;6&LA=2;10;5&ME=1;4;6&MD=2;10;6&MA=1;14;7&MI=2;21;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;7;8&MO=2;12;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;43;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;26;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;29;6&RI=1;4;8&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;25;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;7;6&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;5)[/img]

Reverse '64 landslide in Goldwater's favor!

He lost Arizona???

Yeah I know and he won Texas...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 07:00:31 pm
Jim Thune

Is he at all related to Senator John Thune?  Playing 2004 as Bush:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;7&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;7&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;7&UT=2;5;8&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;8&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;9)

Electoral College
Bush - 523
Kerry - 15

Popular Vote
Bush - 63% (74,076,777)
Kerry - 36% (43,286,327)

Best States (not including D.C., which still was a pitiful 76.8-23.1 Kerry)
Bush:  Utah- 84.8% (788,823)
Kerry: Massachusetts- 51.1% (1,350,171)

Worst States (not including D.C., which still was a pitiful 76.8-23.1 Kerry)
Bush:  Massachusetts 48.9% (1,291,968)
Kerry: Utah - 15.1% (140,509) If you look at just real Kerry 2004 states, then New Hampshire is Kerry's worst with just 36.6%!

Closest Bush State: New Mexico
Bush: 55.2% (420,447)
Kerry: 44.7% (341,064)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 15, 2005, 07:32:05 pm
South Carolina :o

Debs, Wilson, and Roosevelt split the vote! :D

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;4&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;5&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;6&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;6&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;7&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;7&NM=3;5;7&NY=3;33;7&NC=3;14;7&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;7&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;8&PA=3;23;8&RI=3;4;8&SC=3;8;7&SD=3;3;6&TN=3;11;7&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;8&VA=3;13;8&WA=3;11;8&WV=3;5;8&WI=3;11;8&WY=3;3;7&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)

BTW, I am going to post my re-election result when I ran for the D and R endorsements, got the R, and faced a general campaign against Barbara Boxer (D) and Ed Thompson (L).

King what scenario did you use and what was your strategy? I have been playing as an independent for a long time and I can never seem to crack 35% of the vote. What scenario did you use and how did you win so big? Even with dynasmism on I can never seem to get over 40%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 15, 2005, 07:44:38 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;8&AZ=2;10;8&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;7&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;6&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;7&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;7&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6&NE=2;2;8&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;8)

Electoral College
McCain (me) - 535
Kerry - 3

Popular Vote
McCain (me) - 71.1%
Kerry - 28.8%

Best States (including D.C.)
McCain - Utah - 91.3%
Kerry - D.C. - 51.4%

Closest State (including D.C.)
D.C. - Kerry - 51.4%, McCain - 48.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 11:48:52 pm
Kerry (me) vs. Bush vs. Nader vs. Badnarik:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;3&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;3&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;4&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;4&NE1=1;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=1;1;4)

Kerry: 522 EVs (51% PV)
Bush: 16 EVs (30% PV)
Nader: 0 EVs (6% PV)
Badnarik: 0 EVs (11% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Massachusetts (71.6%)
Bush: South Dakota (44.8%)
Nader: Connecticut (18.0%)
Badnarik: California (32.9%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Washington (34.7%) (yes, his worst state was one he won)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.7%)
Nader: Tennessee (2.6%)
Badnarik: West Virginia (0.0% - 188 votes)

Closest states:

1. Wisconsin (Bush wins over Kerry, 40.6-39.5)
2. South Dakota (Bush wins over Kerry, 44.8-43.7)
3. California (Kerry wins over Badnarik, 35.9-32.9)

The massive Badnarik vote was mainly because we both got hit with pretty bad scandals and for quite a while we both had massive negative momentum - I just had less negative momentum than Bush did.  Badnarik was actually ahead in California for a moment, although my massive barrage of ads at the end won it back.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on May 16, 2005, 05:51:36 pm
I won as Taft, easily defeating TR, Wilson, and debs:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;12;4&AZ=1;3;4&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;3&CO=3;6;3&CT=2;7;3&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;6;3&GA=1;14;7&ID=2;4;3&IL=2;29;3&IN=1;15;4&IA=2;13;3&KS=2;10;3&KY=3;13;4&LA=1;10;7&ME=2;6;3&MD=2;8;4&MA=1;18;3&MI=3;15;3&MN=2;12;3&MS=2;10;8&MO=2;18;4&MT=2;4;3&NE=2;8;4&NV=1;3;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;14;4&NM=3;3;4&NY=2;45;4&NC=1;12;5&ND=1;5;3&OH=2;24;4&OK=2;10;4&OR=2;5;3&PA=2;38;3&RI=2;5;3&SC=2;9;9&SD=2;5;5&TN=1;12;5&TX=1;20;7&UT=2;4;3&VT=2;4;3&VA=2;12;6&WA=2;7;3&WV=3;8;4&WI=2;13;4&WY=1;3;3)

William Taft (R): 35% of the Pop. Vote; 331 Electoral Votes

Woodrow Wilson: 27% of the Pop. Vote; 142 Electoral Votes

Theodore Roosevelt: 23% of the Pop. Vote; 58 Electoral Votes

Eugene Debs: 13% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

That's nothing ;) Once, I won the entire solid south as Taft :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 16, 2005, 07:36:01 pm
Best result ever as an independent: Bush vs. Kerry vs. Wixted vs. Nolan

(http://img190.echo.cx/img190/5964/resultsmap8kh.png)

Bush: 26% PV 119 EVs
Kerry: 24% PV 21 EVs
Wixted: 32% 356 EVs
Nolan: 16% PV 42 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Utah 44.9%
Kerry: New Mexico 49.5%
Wixted: Oregon 46.2%
Nolan: Marland 35.6%

Worst State:

Bush: New York 18.1%
Kerry: Alaska 15.6%
Wixted: New Mexico 13.7%
Nolan: Oregon and Kentucky 8.0%

DC Results:

Bush: 9.2%
Kerry: 47.1%
Wixted: 30.6%
Nolan: 12.9%

Tennessee Results (Craziest State):

Bush: 29.3%
Kerry: 22.2%
Wixted: 19.3%
Nolan: 29.0%

More maps soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 16, 2005, 08:04:46 pm
1912 as Taft

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;12;6&AZ=2;3;6&AR=2;9;6&CA=3;13;6&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=2;6;6&GA=1;14;6&ID=1;4;6&IL=1;29;6&IN=1;15;6&IA=1;13;6&KS=1;10;6&KY=3;13;3&LA=1;10;6&ME=1;6;6&MD=1;8;6&MA=1;18;6&MI=1;15;6&MN=1;12;6&MS=1;10;6&MO=1;18;6&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;8;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;14;6&NM=1;3;6&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;12;6&ND=1;5;6&OH=1;24;6&OK=1;10;6&OR=1;5;6&PA=1;38;6&RI=1;5;6&SC=1;9;6&SD=1;5;6&TN=1;12;6&TX=1;20;6&UT=1;4;6&VT=1;4;6&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;7;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;13;6&WY=1;3;6)

RED Taft 469 EVs 39% 22,506,061
BLUE Wilson 36 EVs 22% 12,890,639
Dark Green TR 13 EVs 20% 11,677,588
Light Green Debs 13 EVs 17% 10,203,660


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on May 16, 2005, 08:13:12 pm

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;12;6&AZ=2;3;6&AR=2;9;6&CA=3;13;6&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=2;6;6&GA=1;14;6&ID=1;4;6&IL=1;29;6&IN=1;15;6&IA=1;13;6&KS=1;10;6&KY=3;13;3&LA=1;10;6&ME=1;6;6&MD=1;8;6&MA=1;18;6&MI=1;15;6&MN=1;12;6&MS=1;10;6&MO=1;18;6&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;8;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;14;6&NM=1;3;6&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;12;6&ND=1;5;6&OH=1;24;6&OK=1;10;6&OR=1;5;6&PA=1;38;6&RI=1;5;6&SC=1;9;6&SD=1;5;6&TN=1;12;6&TX=1;20;6&UT=1;4;6&VT=1;4;6&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;7;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;13;6&WY=1;3;6)

Light Green Debs 13 EVs 17% 10,203,660


Bandit would be proud. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 16, 2005, 09:18:28 pm

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;12;6&AZ=2;3;6&AR=2;9;6&CA=3;13;6&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=2;6;6&GA=1;14;6&ID=1;4;6&IL=1;29;6&IN=1;15;6&IA=1;13;6&KS=1;10;6&KY=3;13;3&LA=1;10;6&ME=1;6;6&MD=1;8;6&MA=1;18;6&MI=1;15;6&MN=1;12;6&MS=1;10;6&MO=1;18;6&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;8;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;14;6&NM=1;3;6&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;12;6&ND=1;5;6&OH=1;24;6&OK=1;10;6&OR=1;5;6&PA=1;38;6&RI=1;5;6&SC=1;9;6&SD=1;5;6&TN=1;12;6&TX=1;20;6&UT=1;4;6&VT=1;4;6&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;7;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;13;6&WY=1;3;6)

Light Green Debs 13 EVs 17% 10,203,660


Bandit would be proud. :)

Not as proud as how he would be with what I just got:

Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs (me):

(http://img47.echo.cx/img47/2089/1912results3li.gif)

Wilson: 176 EVs (25% PV)
Roosevelt: 152 EVs (25% PV)
Taft: 146 EVs (26% PV)
Debs: 57 EVs (23% PV)

Best states:

Wilson: Arkansas (44.5%)
Roosevelt: Washington (40.2%)
Taft: Utah (56.6%)
Debs: South Dakota (39.8%)

Worst states:

Wilson: Montana (8.9%)
Roosevelt: Utah (4.8%)
Taft: Texas (6.9%)
Debs: Colorado (7.9%)

Closest states:

1. Oregon (Taft wins over Roosevelt, 31.0-30.8 )
2. Wisconsin (Taft wins over Wilson, 31.2-30.9)
3. Indiana (Wilson wins over Taft, 33.0-32.4)

I basically did absolutely nothing the entire time except for making ads and fundraising to put out as many ads as possible.  I also was successful in unearthing power 9 scandals on both Wilson and Roosevelt, who were for the longest time by far the frontrunners.  Taft picked up some of the slack, and I picked up the rest, successfully winning 4 states for Debs and nearly winning him the popular vote. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 17, 2005, 04:18:41 pm
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney again:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;4&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;4&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Kucinich
PV: 53%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 41%
EV: 141


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 17, 2005, 08:31:50 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;34;7&UT=2;5;8&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6&NE=2;2;8&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;8)

Bush (me) vs. Kerry

Electoral Vote
Bush - 531
Kerry - 7

Popular Vote
Bush - 67.1%
Kerry - 32.8%

Best States
Bush - Utah - 87.4%
Kerry - Rhode  Island - 52.7%

Closest States
Bush - Massacheusetts - 50.9%
Kerry - Rhode Island - 51.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 17, 2005, 10:20:52 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1952&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;5&AZ=1;4;6&AR=1;8;7&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;27;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;10;5&LA=1;10;6&ME=1;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;11;6&MS=1;8;7&MO=2;13;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;45;5&NC=1;14;7&ND=1;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;4;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;24;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;12;6&WY=1;3;5)

Myself (Stevenson) vs. Eisenhower

Stevenson--360 EV 54%
Top States:
North Carolina 73.8%
Mississippi 73.6%
Arkansas 70.0%
New Jersey 68.8%

Eisenhower--171 EV 45%
Top States:
Vermont 61.6%
Ohio 58.2%
Texas 57.4%
Indiana 57.3%

Close states:
Rhode Island (Stevenson wins 50.1-49.8, or 1044 votes)
Nevada (Eisenhower wins 51.3-48.6, or about 3300 votes)
Illinois (Stevenson wins 50.4-49.5, or about 30000 votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 01:27:33 am
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 18, 2005, 08:36:57 am
I'm disappointed every time I get below 55%...I post every time I play, so my results here aren't the best of the best. If you want to win big you need to produce a lot of negative momentum for your opponent. Hold attack-speeches - they almost always make the papers (more frequently than the positive ones) and can have a good effect early on on your opponent's momentum. Never touch an issue if it isn't at least on medium, preferably on high or very high.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 18, 2005, 03:28:32 pm
Party by party results for the election above:

(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/288/thirdpartyrepmap5ed.png)

(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/8996/thirdpartydemmap0nn.png)

(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/1997/thirdpartyindmap3ym.png)

(http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5232/thirdpartylibmap4hp.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 18, 2005, 03:37:37 pm
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.

I use leadership ads in the last seven days. Usually four of them running in every state for a week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 07:59:33 pm
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.

I use leadership ads in the last seven days. Usually four of them running in every state for a week.

How do you afford running four ads in every state for a week?  The money I have in the 2004 scenario only lasts three days.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 18, 2005, 08:33:46 pm
All I do during the campaign is fundraise and win the endorsement money. Running the ads is enough to gain enormous momentum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 09:00:43 pm
All I do during the campaign is fundraise and win the endorsement money. Running the ads is enough to gain enormous momentum.

Hmm, I may try that, just to see what happens.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 18, 2005, 10:51:49 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;4&CA=1;40;5&CO=3;6;4&CT=1;8;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;14;5&GA=3;12;5&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=3;13;4&IA=3;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=3;9;3&LA=3;10;6&ME=2;4;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=2;14;4&MI=3;21;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;7&MO=3;12;4&MT=3;4;5&NE=1;5;4&NV=1;3;6&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;17;4&NM=1;4;6&NY=1;43;4&NC=3;13;4&ND=1;4;5&OH=3;26;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=3;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;4&TX=3;25;6&UT=3;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=3;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=3;7;6&WI=2;12;4&WY=3;3;4)

I won as George Wallace!

Nixon--31% PV 61 EV
Humphrey--36% PV 208 EV
Wallace--31% (about 500000 more votes than Nixon) 270 EV

Nixon's best states:
Idaho-59.5%
Arizona-57.6%
South Dakota-57.0%
Maine-52.6%
Oklahoma-51.6%

Humphrey's best states:
Nevada--66.8%
DC--63.5%
Connecticut--60.6%
New Mexico--60.4%
Alaska-60.0%

Wallace's best states:
Mississippi--71.1%
Louisiana--68.3%
West Virginia--67.2%
Alabama--67.2%
Texas--65.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 11:06:12 pm
I'm disappointed every time I get below 55%...I post every time I play, so my results here aren't the best of the best. If you want to win big you need to produce a lot of negative momentum for your opponent. Hold attack-speeches - they almost always make the papers (more frequently than the positive ones) and can have a good effect early on on your opponent's momentum. Never touch an issue if it isn't at least on medium, preferably on high or very high.

Actually, I found my problem: I was playing with two other people.  Once I made it only me and Bush, I won with 60% of the vote. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 20, 2005, 11:26:26 am
My new personal record with the 1976 scenario:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;6&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;17;6&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=1;26;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)


Carter
Popular Vote: 55%
Electoral Vote: 462

Ford
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 76


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 20, 2005, 01:03:12 pm
Obviously, my strategy didn't work:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;7&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;7&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

P.G. Talbott (R): 229, 49%
John Kerry (D): 309, 50%

The PV was actually really close...I was ahead until Kerry won Washington, actually...

Overall, the campaign didn't do so well...bounced back in the last few days (from down 6 in the polls), taking states like Louisiana, Missouri, Hawaii...but it was just too late.

States decided within 5:

Florida: 51.2-48.7
Pennsylvania: 51.2-48.7
New York: 52.3-47.6

Flip those three states, and I win.


Not my best day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 20, 2005, 07:12:25 pm
Take 2:

Was down by nine points a week before the election.  Mississippi was a swing state.  Wyoming was looking shaky.  Damned Power 6 scandal just sat there for a couple weeks and wouldn't go away.  And then came the ad blitz.

And here was the final result:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=1;15;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;7&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

P.G. Talbott (R-NY): 280, 51%
John Kerry (D-MA): 258, 48%

My unexpected win in VA handed me the election.

Closest states:
Maryland: 50.5-49.4 (Kerry camped out here the last couple days)
Rhode Island: 50.5-49.4
California: 50.8-49.1 (I camped out here the last couple days)
Hawaii: 51.5-48.4
Virginia: 51.9-48.0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 21, 2005, 05:03:16 am
1980 election:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=1;7;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;4&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;6&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;6&NC=1;13;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)


Carter
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 444

Reagan
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 94

Anderson
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0

Clark
Popular Vote: 1%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 21, 2005, 10:27:53 am
And now 1992:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=1;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;11;4&WY=1;3;4&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)


Clinton
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 486

Bush
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 52

Perot
Popular Vote: 12%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 21, 2005, 12:05:55 pm
My best record as Kerry (who I did not support, for the record).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;7&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

I spent a whole lot of time fundraising, got over $100,000,000 near the end.  I camped out in Texas for a while, and had Edwards go all over.

I made a last minute run at Utah, and got it so close - 50.0% to 49.9%.

Anyways

Electoral Vote
Kerry - 518
Bush - 20

Popular Vote
Kerry - 65%
Bush - 34%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on May 21, 2005, 04:02:44 pm
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney again:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;4&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;4&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Kucinich
PV: 53%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 41%
EV: 141
That just about explains why I wouldn't waste the money to buy this game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 22, 2005, 01:32:18 am
That just about explains why I wouldn't waste the money to buy this game.

But half the fun of the game is attempting to make incredibly impossible results.  Realistic results are boring.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 22, 2005, 09:50:38 am
Here we have a rather, uh, colorful result. I played the "Rising Stars - 2020" scenario with Gonzalez (Green).


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;6&AK=2;3;3&AZ=3;8;6&AR=2;6;3&CA=3;54;6&CO=3;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;6&GA=2;13;3&HI=3;4;6&ID=2;4;3&IL=1;22;6&IN=3;12;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;9&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;6&MA=3;12;6&MI=3;18;6&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=3;33;6&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;3&OH=2;21;9&OK=2;8;3&OR=3;7;6&PA=2;23;3&RI=3;4;6&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;3&VT=3;3;6&VA=2;13;3&WA=3;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=3;11;6&WY=2;3;3&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)


Red = Democratic
Dark Blue = Republican
Light Blue = Libertarian
Green = Well, Green ;)


Michael Badnarik / Diana Devot (Libertarian)
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 224

Matt Gonzalez / John Eder (Green)
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 199

Stephanie Herseth / Harold Ford, Jr. (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 24%
Electoral Vote: 88

George P. Bush / Adam Putnam (Republican)
Popular Vote: 24%
Electoral Vote: 27


The election was tied and decided by Congress in favor of Gonzalez.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 22, 2005, 07:52:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;6&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;33;4&NC=2;14;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;4&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;5&TX=3;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=3;3;4&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

1992
Bush/Quayle (myself)--47% 433 EV
Clinton/Gore--29% 70 EV
Perot/Stockdale--22% 35 EV

I might have made it an electoral sweep (outside of WV and DC) but I was socked by two major scandals (one reached power 11) with about 2 weeks to go.

Best states:
Bush--North Dakota 65.0%
Clinton--West Virginia 50.0% (DC-61.3%
Perot--Wyoming 45.0%

Worst states:
Bush--California 34.1% (I was actually leading most of the way) (DC-31.2%)
Clinton--Utah 9.7%
Perot--Tennessee 4.3%

States within 5%:
Texas-Perot over Bush (42.4%-41.4%)
Arkansas-Bush over Clinton (48.1%-46.3%)
New York-Bush over Perot (42.5%-38.4%)
Utah--Bush over Perot (47.5%-42.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 23, 2005, 10:33:57 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=1;8;3&CT=2;8;3&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=2;22;4&IN=3;12;3&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;3&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;5&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;5&NJ=3;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;5&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;5&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;6&TN=2;11;3&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;6&WV=2;5;3&WI=3;11;5&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;4)

I finally did it! :D
(Without dynamism, spies or fog of war but with economy)

Perot/Stockdale: 41.2%, 45 161 274 votes, 334 EVs

Bush/Quayle: 29.7%, 32 578 468 votes, 150 EVs

Clinton/Gore: 29.1%, 31 845 576 votes, 54 EVs

Best states:

Perot:

Utah: 64.7%
South Dakota: 63.1%
Oklahoma: 62.8%
Texas: 62.1%
Washington: 60.6%

Bush:

Alabama: 53.4%
Virginia: 49.9%
Mississippi: 48.4%
North Carolina: 47.4%
Arkansas: 45%

Clinton:

Arkansas; 42.4%
Maryland: 39.3%
Georgia: 38.4%
Colorado: 37.6%
Hawaii: 37.3%

Worse states:

Perot:

Alabama: 12.2%
Arkansas: 12.4%
Hawaii: 18.3%
Georgia: 18.3%
Kentucky: 21.1%

Bush:

Rhode Island: 13.9%
Massachusetts: 14%
Vermont: 14.9%
Maine: 15.6%
Missouri: 16.1%

Clinton:

Utah: 13.1%
North Dakota: 14.5%
Alaska: 15.2%
Wyoming: 17%
Oklahoma: 17.1%

Closest states:

Tennessee: Bush v Clinton, 34.6% v 34%
Colorado: Clinton v Perot, 37.6% v 36.6%
Arizona: Bush v Perot, 37.1% v 36%
Arkansas: Bush v Clinton, 45% v 42.4%

DC was
Clinton: 68.5%
Perot: 26.5%
Bush: 4.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 23, 2005, 10:55:41 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Josh, here's your game:

Craddock/McCain: 50%, 270 EVs

Kerry/Edwards: 48%, 268 EVs

Badnarik/Nolan (me), 0% (400 000 votes)

The state results were pretty much along the same lines as the real 2004 results. Generally though, no states were close, witht the sole exception of West Virginia which Craddock won by 631 votes, 49% and 399 815 votes v 48.9% and 399 186 votes. Badnarik got 1.9% or 15 760 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on May 23, 2005, 04:18:41 pm
Wow, won CT but lost TN, oh well, thanks for running me. Feel free to run me in other races.. maybe some against you or whatever


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 25, 2005, 10:26:25 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nini2287/c9d49eb7.png)

This is the 1860 election:
Stephen Douglas (myself/blue)-35% PV 146 EV
John Breckenridge (red)-25% PV 122 EV
John Bell (green)-20% PV 29 EV
Abraham Lincoln (yellow)-18% PV 6 EV

Best states
Douglas:
1) Michigan 76.4%
2) Rhode Island 71.2%
3) New Jersey 70.2%
4) Minnesota 69.7%
5) Illinois 64.4%

Breckenridge:
1) Texas 59.7%
2) Mississippi 57.1%
3) South Carolina 55.2%
4) Florida 53.7%
5) Arkansas 52.2%

Bell:
1) Maryland 48.0%
2) Lousiana 47.6%
3) Tennessee 46.9%
4) North Carolina 45.7% (he lost the state)
5) Virginia 44.5% (he lost the state)

Lincoln:
1) Vermont 44.7% (he lost the state, but was leading until I shot up 45 points in the polls the last week)
2) Connecticut 43.4%
3) Ohio 38.6% (lost state)
4) New York 36.3% (lost state)
5) Wisconsin 36.0% (lost state)

Worst States:
Douglas:
1) Texas 2.3%
2) Mississippi 4.0%
3) Florida 4.2%
4) Maryland 4.4%
5) Virginia 5.0%

Breckenridge:
1) Michigan 0.3%
2) Ohio 2.0%
3) Wisconsin 2.1%
3) New York 2.1%
5) Massachusetts 2.7%

Bell:
1) Wisconsin 0.0% (108 votes)
2) Minnesota 0.3%
3) New Jersey 0.6%
4) Rhode Island 0.7%
5) New York 1.0%

Lincoln:
1) Kentucky 0.0% (35 votes)
2) Arkansas 0.0% (47 votes)
2) Virginia 0.0% (47 votes)
4) Mississippi 0.0% (62 votes)
5) North Carolina 0.0% (187 votes)

Close States (Less than 5%)
Delaware-Bell defeats Breckenridge defeats Douglas (32.2%-31.6%-26.3%)
Tennessee-Bell defeats Breckenridge (46.9%-45.5%)
Maryland-Bell defeats Breckenridge (48.0%-46.3%)
North Carolina-Breckenridge defeats Bell (48.2%-45.7%)
Louisiana-Bell defeats Breckenridge (47.6%-43.6%)
California-Breckenridge defeats Douglas (33.7%-29.2%)

...forgot to add, Congress elected me President!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 28, 2005, 11:19:15 am
2020--Rising Stars

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nini2287/2020.png)

Melissa Hart-29% 261 EV
Bob Casey (me)-33% 251 EV
Matt Gonzalez-19% 14 EV
Michael Badnarik-17% 12 EV

Best states

Hart:
Utah 48.3%
Wisconsin 48.2%
Kentucky 47.9%
Tennessee 46.6%
North Carolina 45.7%

Casey:
DC 65.2%
Ohio 45.2%
Illinois 44.4%
New Hampshire 40.5%
Arizona 40.4%

Gonzalez:
Oregon 42.8%
Hawaii 37.1%
California 35.3%
Vermont 33.2%
Maine 31.4%

Badnarik:
Wyoming 40.4%
Montana 38.2%
Alaska 35.4%
New Hampshire 32.6%
North Dakota 32.4%

Worst States

Hart:
Hawaii 15.0%
California 15.0%
Maine 15.8%
Arizona 16.7%
Oregon 17.5%

Casey:
Alaska 16.4%
Oklahoma 20.5%
Georgia 22.7%
Alabama 23.2%
Arkansas 23.5%

Gonzalez:
Montana 3.7%
Georgia 4.8%
Utah 6.1%
South Dakota 6.7%
Nebraska 6.9%

Badnarik:
DC 3.8%
Oregon 4.1%
Vermont 6.9%
Wisconsin 7.0%
Hawaii 8.4%

Close states (<5%)
Washington-Hart defeats Casey (34.1-33.9)
Maine-Gonzalez defeats Casey (31.4-31.1)
Virginia-Casey defeats Hart (33.3-32.9) (I wasn't even close-pulled this one with last second ad blitz)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Casey/Hart (33.2-31.5-28.2)
Iowa-Hart defeats Casey (41.0-39.1)
North Dakota-Badnarik defeats Casey (32.4-30.3)
Pennsylvania-Hart defeats Casey (39.7-37.6)
Connecticut-Casey defeats Gonzalez (30.8-28.5)
Michigan-Hart defeats Badnarik/Casey (29.4-25.4-24.9)
Hawaii-Casey defeats Gonzalez (39.3-37.1)
California-Casey defeats Gonzalez (35.3-31.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Hart (35.3-31.2)
Idaho-Casey defeats Badnarik (34.9-30.0)

And the House decided to vote for Hart to win the election :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 03:48:04 pm
1992:

Bush v. Clinton v. Talbott v. Marrou

Clinton got hard hit with some ridiculously large scandals early, and was essentially knocked out of the race.

Final Polls:

Bush 35 - Talbott 28 - Clinton 19 - Marrou 4 - Undecided 12

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;3&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;6&ID=3;4;4&IL=2;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;3&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=2;33;4&NC=3;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;7;4&PA=2;23;3&RI=3;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Talbott 270 - Bush 265 - Clinton 3

Talbott with a (rather) secure lead in the electoral vote despite being down 7 in the popular vote--the only "swing" for Talbott is California, which he holds securely over Clinton.

However, due to the collapse of the regular party system, things are still very much up in the air.  There are a lot of undecided voters (12%) going into election day--"Undecided" actually has the lead in two states (DC--why it's D+30, and PA--where Undecided has a 14-point lead over Bush--it should actually be D+20...)

Election Results will be up momentarily...




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 03:59:05 pm
Well, no big surprises (as usual).

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;6&HI=2;4;7&ID=3;4;4&IL=2;22;4&IN=2;12;5&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;5&NY=2;33;5&NC=3;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;6&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;32;5&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Clinton gained back most of the undecideds in DC...but, thanks to a strong showing by Marrou (who placed 3rd, above Talbott) still only got 64.6% of the vote.

Which means that the strongest state for any candidate in this election was not DC...but Hawaii.  70.6% for Bush.

Final PV Results:
Bush: 46,149,947 (42%): 265 EV
Talbott: 35,268,795 (32%): 270 EV  --WINNER
Clinton: 23,750,972 (21%): 3 EV
Marrou: 4,672,448 (4%).

Despite losing the PV by 10 points, Talbott somehow wins the election.

Perot does well in his states--Bush does much better in his.  The fact that there is only one state won with less than 30% of the vote (MO) in a three-way race like this is telling.

The only reasonably close state that Talbott won (within 7) was Delaware:
Talbott 42.9 - Bush 39.5 - Clinton 17.3 - Marrou 0.1

If Bush had won here, the EV count would have been 268-267-3...with Clinton winning in the House despite polling only slightly better than Perot did in the real election.  Now that would have been a sight to see.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 30, 2005, 04:16:25 pm
Cool Erc. What is this for? Who's Talbott? What scenario is this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 04:22:25 pm
Cool Erc. What is this for? Who's Talbott? What scenario is this?

Just the regular 1992 scenario, with Talbott (Representative from New York, see the PF Contest thread for his stats [essentially, he's me]) substituted for Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 31, 2005, 02:29:08 pm
Rising Stars 2020

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nini2287/genusmap.png)

Hesreth/Obama (me)--38% 349 EV
Bush/Staples--25% 100 EV
Gonzalez/Eder--18% 41 EV
Badnarik/Default VP-forget name--17% 48 EV

Best states

Herseth:
DC 73.3%
Illinois 56.7%
Delaware 55.4%
Iowa 49.2%
California 48.0%

Bush:
Pennsylvania 40.7%
New York 39.9%
Wisconsin 38.2%
Georgia 37.7%
Florida 36.6%

Gonzalez
Oregon 51.1%
Washington 41.9%
Maine 41.3%
New Jersey 37.0%
Hawaii 34.7%

Badnarik
New Hampshire 48.4%
Wyoming 45.7%
Utah 43.4%
Nebraska 41.8%
Montana 38.1%

Close states (within 5)
Georgia-Bush defeats Hesreth (37.7-37.2)
Idaho-Bush defeats Barnarik defeats Herseth (32.6-31.9-29.4)
Ohio-Bush defeats Herseth (35.5-34.5)
New York-Herseth defeats Bush (40.3-39.3)
Alabama-Badnarik defeats Bush (30.6-29.1)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Badnarik (31.6-30.0)
South Carolina-Badnarik defeats Bush (35.6-33.4)
West Virginia-Herseth defeats Bush (40.2-37.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Herseth (35.2-31.8)
Colorado-Herseth defeats Bush (34.1-29.9)
Louisiana-Bush defeats Herseth (29.9-25.4)
Florida-Bush defeats Herseth (36.6-31.9)
Pennsylvania-Bush defeats Herseth (40.7-36.8)
Montana-Badnarik defeats Bush (38.1-33.3)
Minnesota-Herseth defeats Gonzalez (32.0-27.0)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 01, 2005, 04:35:28 pm
1992 without Perot:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;8;6&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;54;7&CO=1;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;5&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;22;6&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;4;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;33;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;21;6&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;23;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;32;4&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Clinton
Popular Vote: 61%
Electoral Vote: 503

Bush
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 35


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 03, 2005, 09:14:23 am
Alternate 1992: Pat Buchanan vs. Paul Tsongas (me) vs. Ross Perot


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;54;5&CO=3;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;25;4&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;22;4&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=3;11;5&MT=3;3;5&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;6&ND=3;3;4&OH=1;21;5&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=3;23;5&RI=3;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=3;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=3;11;5&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;3&NE1=3;1;3&NE2=3;1;3&NE3=3;1;3)


Tsongas (D)
PV: 41%
EV: 300

Perot (I)
PV: 31%
EV: 238

Buchanan (R)
PV: 25%
EV: 0


Title: Bush v. Clark, Pt I
Post by: ilikeverin on June 03, 2005, 04:15:42 pm
I've been using the 'make lots of ads and then deploy them the week before the election' strategy.  Except I've also been researching strategies.

Let's just say this: Whee! ;D

(Note: I use Dynamism, because it's fun)

Monday, November 1st's polls have revealed some interesting phenomena (percentages listed Clark (Clark Change)-Bush (Bush Change)-Nolan (Nolan Change))

CA: 57 (+11)-39 (-3)-3 (+2)
NM: 52 (+12)-45 (-11)-1 (0)
KS: 53 (+18)-42 (-7)-4 (+2)
MO: 53 (+12)-44 (-11)-2 (-1)
LA: 62 (+31)-34 (-8)-2 (+1)
TN: 53 (+13)-44 (-13)-2 (0)
GA: 56 (+24)-41 (-5)-1 (0)
MI: 57 (+12)-30 (-13)-11 (+3)
IN: 50 (+15)-48 (-5)-0 (0)
MD: 67 (+27)-30 (-7)-1 (+1)
NY: 49 (+11)-45 (-11)-5 (0)
CT: 57 (+18)-34 (-5)-1 (0)
VT: 66 (+26)-28 (-10)-4 (+1)
ME: 60 (+17)-35 (-5)-3 (0)

Nolan also inexplicably gained 12 points in Arizona, bringing the total there to 42 (-3)-34 (0)-16 (+12) (Yes, somehow even though Deleware is 'Bush country', and states such as New York were 'Bush country' before the ad blitz... somehow, Arizona was 'Clark solid' :P

Election update is next post...

EDIT: Bush also has a 32 point lead in Minnesota :P


Title: Bush v. Clark, Pt II
Post by: ilikeverin on June 03, 2005, 05:05:24 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Wesley Clark (me)-55% 407 EV
George W. Bush-41% 131 EV
Whatshisface Nolan-3% 0 EV

Best States

Clark:
(DC 89.0%)
Rhode Island 75.7%
Maryland 72.0%
New Jersey 70.2%
Massachusetts 69.6%
Washington 69.3%

Bush:
Alabama 60.2%
Alaska 59.8%
Idaho 59.6%
Mississippi 58.4%
Arkansas 57.3%

Nolan:
Arizona 20.9%
Michigan 12.3%
Vermont 7.3%
Ohio 6.2%
New York 5.7%

Worst States

Clark:
Alaska 38.2%
(tie) Idaho 38.3%
(tie) Arkansas 38.3%
Mississippi 39.0%
(tie) Alabama 39.2%
(tie) Hawaii 39.2%
Ohio 40.7%

Bush:
(DC 10.7%)
Rhode Island 22.0%
Maryland 26.3%
Vermont 27.7%
Massachusetts 28.3%
New Jersey 29.6%

Nolan:
(tie) Nebraska 0.0% (46 votes)
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (105 votes)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (867 votes)
(tie) Illinois 0.0% (1,937 votes)
DC 0.1% (354 votes)

Close states (<5%)
Too lazy to do %'s, but, in no particular order:
Clark over Bush: Utah, Texas, Nebraska, Montana, North Dakota, North Carolina, Pennsylvania
Bush over Clark: Nevada, South Dakota, South Carolina

Election Day Ad Blitz Switchers (Clark-Bush-Nolan)
Utah: 49.3-48.2-2.4
Montana: 50.1-49.5-0.2
North Dakota: 51.8-47.5-.5
Nebraska: 52.4-47.5-0.0
Oklahoma: 54.8-41.6-3.5
Texas: 50.7-47.5-1.6
Wisconsin: 54.8-42.9-2.2
Kentucky: 52.6-43.5-3.7
North Carolina: 51.1-47.3-1.4
Virginia: 54.3-42.7-2.8
West Virginia: 52.5-46.2-1.2
Pennsylvania: 50.0-47.7-2.2

Hooray :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 03, 2005, 10:44:42 pm
Nice job on Utah, I didn't think that was possible


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 04, 2005, 01:10:10 am
Nice job on Utah, I didn't think that was possible

Utah is actually surprisingly easy for a Democrat to take in President Forever, I've found.  It's @^#^ing Idaho that usually gives me trouble.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 01:35:08 pm
This time I wanted to see if the strategy works for 3rd party candidates... I guess it does :)

(http://img170.echo.cx/img170/2325/bdnb1overall6eg.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Howard Dean- 43%, 271 EV
George W. Bush- 41%, 267 EV
Ralph Nader (me)- 13%, 0 EV
Michael Badnarik (I finally made him :P)- 1%, 0 EV

The campaign was crazy.  Up until the last week or two, Dean was failing... then a nicely timed scandal and 3 debate wins gave him somewhat of a fighting chance.  The thing that put him over the top, however, was my last second ad blitz's one negative ad against Bush 8)

Dean

(http://img134.echo.cx/img134/8852/bdnb1dem4rz.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
(DC 67.9%)
Illinois 60.8%
Pennsylvania 58.6%
Iowa 54.9%
Wisconsin 52.5%
Tennessee 52.3%

Worst States:
Utah 18.6%
Idaho 22.5%
Alaska 22.8%
South Dakota 23.4%
(tie) Montana 24.6%
(tie) Nebraska 24.6%

Bush

(http://img104.echo.cx/img104/8011/bdnb1rep7cr.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
Idaho 58.5%
Alaska 57.9%
Nebraska 56.9%
New York 54.8% (?!?)
Minnesota 54.6% (?!?)

Worst States:
(DC 11.4%)
Rhode Island 21.9%
Hawaii 25.0%
Vermont 27.2%
Maine 27.6%
New Jersey 28.6%

Nader

(http://img52.echo.cx/img52/2504/bdnbind7va.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
South Dakota 34.8%
Montana 33.7%
Rhode Island 30.8%
South Carolina 29.6%
Utah 27.6%

Worst States:
Illinois 3.8%
Florida 7.4%
Arizona 7.7%
Nevada 7.8%
Indiana 8.4%

Closest Call:
Montana; Bush 38.8-Nader 33.7-Dean 24.6-Bdanarik 2.7

Badnarik

<no map>

Best States:
Arizona 7.1%
Illinois 6.1%
Texas 5.0%
Wyoming 4.7%
(tie) Vermont 4.1%
(tie) West Virginia 4.1%

Worst States:
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (23)
(tie) South Carolina 0.0% (30)
(tie) Idaho 0.0% (258)
(tie) Connecticut 0.0% (370)
(tie) North Carolina 0.0% (617)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (659)
(tie) Missouri 0.0% (1,253)
(tie) Florida 0.0% (1,814)

Closest States (<5%)
Oregon: Bush 43.4-Dean 43.2-Nader 11.6-Badnarik 1.5
Washington: Dean 44.3-Bush 42.3-Nader 12.1-Badnarik 1.1

States Which Probably Switched Due To My Ad Blitz
Washington (44.3-42.3-12.1-1.1)
Ohio (47.2-40.8-11.3-0.5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 02:22:21 pm
Clark is a beast for this strategy.

Once again, I used 'The Strategy', but this time, instead of doing anti-Bush Leadership ads, I did anti-Bush Integrity ads.

Here are the changes in one week, sorted by + Clark Change (listed in +Clark/-Bush form.  bolded if they are now 'Clark country'):

Nevada +36/-13
South Carolina +36/-11
Kentucky +35/-10
Rhode Island +35/-7
Indiana +35/-6
South Dakota +34/-4
Nebraska +33/-4
Utah +32/-14
Mississippi +32/-12
Montana +32/-7
Idaho +30/-14
New Hampshire  +30/-13
Louisiana +30/-10
West Virginia +30/-5
Missouri +29/-11
Minnesota +29/-8
Tennessee +29/-6
Maryland +29/-5
Vermont +28/-28
Kansas +28/-10
Virginia +27/-27
Wisconsin +27/-18
Iowa +26/-13
Colorado +26/-11
Maine +24/-10
North Dakota +24/-8
Washington +24/-4
Arkansas +23/-12
Oregon +23/-6
Oklahoma +23/-6
Delaware +20/-10
Arizona +20/-4
New Mexico +19/-8
Alaska +19/-3
Wyoming +18/-9
Connecticut +15/-8
Alabama +11/-2

Now I'm moving Clark over to GET IDAHO >:( (Idaho, Alaska, and Alabama were the only ones not swayed to the Clark side (Clark side. Dark side.  Geddit?  Haw haw haw haw haw); Alaska and Alabama are Bush leans and Idaho's a Tossup with +1 Bush)

Oddly enough, the best Bush state right now is California :S where he is leading by 28% (60-32).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 02:41:51 pm
And all that led to this rather odd map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 08:52:01 pm
(http://img228.echo.cx/img228/6262/twrd1overall5vz.png) (http://www.imageshack.us)

OK, I'll stop posting now :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 04, 2005, 09:27:38 pm
And all that led to this rather odd map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 05, 2005, 01:12:54 am
And all that led to this rather odd map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P

If you a scroll back a page or two, I won Idaho as Bob Casey in the Rising Stars scenario


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 05, 2005, 05:05:13 am
And all that led to this rather odd map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P

If you a scroll back a page or two, I won Idaho as Bob Casey in the Rising Stars scenario

Idaho in 2004, I mean.  It's almost impossible to win as the Democrat (although I have done it a couple times).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 05, 2005, 08:37:39 am
Jesus Christ, I think this is a) the most unrealistic result I´ve ever had and b) the best result I´ve ever had running as a third party candidate.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=3;3;3&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;3&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;6&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;5&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;6&KY=1;8;3&LA=3;9;4&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;12;6&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;5&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;6&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;5&NY=3;33;5&NC=3;14;5&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;6&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;6&PA=3;23;6&RI=3;4;6&SC=3;8;6&SD=3;3;6&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;6&VA=3;13;6&WA=3;11;6&WV=3;5;6&WI=3;11;6&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;6&NE1=3;1;6&NE2=3;1;6&NE3=3;1;6)


Ross Perot (Independent)
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 449

William Clinton (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 27%
Electoral Vote: 80

George H.W. Bush (Republican)
Popular Vote: 18%
Electoral Vote: 9

Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


What happened: Well, in short, both Clinton and Bush were each hit by two major scandals in the week before the election and I spun them as long as I could. As a result, the news in the last seven days basically consisted only of those scandals. In addition, a few days before the election I started to run three very successful attack adds (two against Bush, one against Clinton).

Throughout the entire campaign Perot wasn´t in the lead in a single state, but in the last poll released before the election Perot suddenly took the lead almost everywhere. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on June 05, 2005, 01:31:47 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;3&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bush/Quayle: 452 EVs, 46%
Clinton/Gore: 83 EVs, 34%
Perot/Stockdale: 3 EVs, 19%

Best states:
Bush:
Tennessee: 66%
Mississippi: 63.9%
Virginia: 54.3%
South Carolina: 53.7%
North Carolina: 53.2%

Clinton:
Louisiana: 54.4%
New Mexico: 53.2%
New York: 52.5%
New Jersey: 48.8%
Arkansas: 47.4%

Perot:
Wyoming: 43.9%
Utah: 42.6%
Nebraska: 39.7%
South Dakota: 38.1%
North Dakota: 37.2%

Worse states:
Bush:
New Mexico: 36.5%
Massachusetts: 37%
Louisiana: 37.9%
New York: 38.1%
New Jersey: 38.4%

Clinton:
Utah: 11.2%
Nebraska: 12.6%
North Dakota: 14.5%
Idaho: 14.6%
Wyoming: 15.9%

Perot:
Mississippi: 1.2%
Alabama: 4.8%
Tennessee: 4.9%
Virginia: 5%
Arkansas: 5.7%

Closest states:
Georgia: Bush over Clinton by 0.3%, 8 355 votes
Hawaii: Bush over Clinton by 0.5%, 2 331 votes
Arkansas: Clinton over Bush by 0.6%, 6 881 votes

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I almost never got any good ads and ran out of money on the last day...but still won comfortably with Bush by focusing on my experience. I got hit by 4 scandals, I think it was, one power 9, one power 3 and two power 6. Clinton won every debate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 05, 2005, 02:30:02 pm
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on June 05, 2005, 06:13:38 pm
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I thought your favorite election would be 1928 ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 05, 2005, 06:23:10 pm
(http://img87.echo.cx/img87/3458/19929wj.th.png) (http://img87.echo.cx/my.php?image=19929wj.png)

That was a fun one.  Played as Governor Josh Hatterly of Michigan.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 05, 2005, 07:03:47 pm
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 05, 2005, 10:45:03 pm
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D

I could send you some info on them.

Give you issues and candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 05, 2005, 11:51:24 pm
I did Gore vs. Keyes vs. Nader vs. Buchanan to see which hard core Republican states I could win:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;25;5&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;6&MN=2;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;6&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;11;6&WY=1;3;4&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

If I weren't socked with a few scandals, I would have won South Dakota (lost by 2.7), Nebraska (lost by 5.0), Louisiana (lost by 1.1) Arkansas (lost by 0.7) and Utah (lost by 0.3)!

I'll add Keyes to teh 2004 scenario and see how that goes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 06, 2005, 12:56:13 am
Here we go:

Mark Warner/Dick Gephardt vs. Alan Keyes/Pat Toomey (2004)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;10;6&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;7&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;7&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;7&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;7&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;7&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;6&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

I won the PV 64-35.  I won Utah, Idaho, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Texas, Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota and Alaska by over 10 points each, and yet lose Ohio (52.8-47.1).  Oh well, I did win Idaho (58.2-41.7) ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on June 06, 2005, 10:24:39 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;3&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)
That looks awesome! It reminds me of winter for some odd reson. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 06, 2005, 04:17:50 pm
One of the oddest historical maps ever. Played as Byrd in the scenario A New Frontier - 1960. Nixon vs. Kennedy vs. Byrd vs. Decker.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;4&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;4;6&AR=3;8;4&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=2;3;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;27;4&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;10;6&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;10;5&LA=3;10;4&ME=2;5;5&MD=2;9;6&MA=1;16;4&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;11;6&MS=3;8;8&MO=2;13;6&MT=2;4;7&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;7&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;45;5&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;25;6&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;32;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;24;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;4&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;6)

Nixon: 47% PV 268 EVs
Kennedy: 40% PV 220 EVs
Byrd: 9% PV 49 EVs
Decker: 2% 0 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Nevada 76.2% PV
Kennedy: Georgia 69.0% PV
Byrd: Mississippi 89.0%
Decker: North Carolina 12.8% PV

Worst State:

Nixon: Mississippi 4.9% PV
Kennedy: Mississippi 2.9% PV
Byrd: West Virginia 0.0% PV (376)
Decker: Montana 0.0% (0)

PBrunsel would be proud. The Prohibition Party got over 10% in about five states and came in third in Mississippi and possibly others as well. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 06, 2005, 04:33:21 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;6&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Leonard Hobbes/Denny Hastert (R) 56%  473
John F. Kerry/John Edwards (D) 43%  65

Popular Vote Tallys: R-70,670,053; D-53,672,172

My campaign themes were center-left on gun control, center-left on military intervention and integrity. 

Early on, I just waited to build up 4 ads, which with 3 1/2 weeks to go I ran for only 2 days, and my two best ads for one more day.  After triumphing against Kerry in the first debate, I managed to turn more or less the entire country red, except for VT, NY, PA, DE, MD, NJ, WV, IL, HI and WA.  I focused on winning WA, IL, and PA in the next few weeks, while Kerry's campaign decided to hit up states like AL and KY.

With a day to go before the election, I had about $14 million in the kitty left, and Kerry had flipped IN and KY (?) into swing states.  I unleashed my 3 best ads, throwing money at every state I could, and burned $8 million in the first day added my 4th ad to the total, and definitely went over on election day (but who cares?).

I was upset when I lost NY 51-49, which prevented me from my first 500 game on PF ever.   


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 06, 2005, 05:40:41 pm
I was upset when I lost NY 51-49, which prevented me from my first 500 game on PF ever.   

Yes, getting your first 500 game is always a proud achievement. :)

I'm still attempting to get a perfect 538 game with Kerry.  The closest I've gotten so far is something like 522, losing only Wisconsin, South Dakota, and Alaska.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 06, 2005, 05:41:34 pm
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D

I could send you some info on them.

Give you issues and candidates.

If you could do that, I'd be more than happy to see if I could put something together in my spare time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 06, 2005, 07:52:37 pm
Clinton vs. Bush vs. Me, but I didn't do too well.

Clinton: 40
Bush: 37
Me: 21

I did get over 40% in Utah though :)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;3&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;3&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 07, 2005, 12:45:03 am
I did the Warner vs. Keyes game again but played as Keyes:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

I won the PV 56-43


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 07, 2005, 04:15:08 pm
Clinton vs. Me vs. Bush again.

In order of votes, percentages are same:

Bush: 32%
Me: 32%
Clinton: 32%
Marrou: 1%

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;3&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 07, 2005, 04:43:32 pm
Clinton vs. Me vs. Bush again.

In order of votes, percentages are same:

Bush: 32%
Me: 32%
Clinton: 32%
Marrou: 1%

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;3&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Can you put up EV totals as well? Possibly best states/worst states, close states that kinda thing as well?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 08, 2005, 11:48:49 am
When you´ve learned to win ANY election with a landslide, this game becomes quite boring.


I played the 1912 election with Debs:

Debs
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 478

Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 29

Wilson
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 21

Taft
Popular Vote. 14%
Electoral Vote: 3


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 02:11:10 pm
When you´ve learned to win ANY election with a landslide, this game becomes quite boring.


I played the 1912 election with Debs:

Debs
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 478

Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 29

Wilson
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 21

Taft
Popular Vote. 14%
Electoral Vote: 3

Could you put a map up?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 08, 2005, 04:18:57 pm
Could you put a map up?

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 04:30:47 pm
Could you put a map up?

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


If the fourth party has only one state,


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 04:32:12 pm
Could you put a map up?

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


If the fourth party has only one state, just put that one state at like 90% third party or something and say what it's supposed to be.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 08, 2005, 04:43:05 pm
Could you put a map up?

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 08, 2005, 05:09:24 pm
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 08, 2005, 05:25:14 pm
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D

Just copy this map into paint and just paint in the states as per the results.

(http://img190.echo.cx/img190/5964/resultsmap8kh.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 09, 2005, 01:01:19 am
My first 538 EV sweep (Warner vs. Keyes)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;55;7&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;7&GA=1;15;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;7&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;7&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;7&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;7&ND=1;3;6&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;7&PA=1;21;7&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;7&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;6&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;7&WI=1;10;7&WY=1;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;6)

Popular vote was 69-30 (87,074,439-37,850,581)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 09, 2005, 10:04:17 am
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D

Just copy this map into paint and just paint in the states as per the results.

(http://img190.echo.cx/img190/5964/resultsmap8kh.png)

Uh, ok, but I don´t have my 1912 results anymore.




Instead I will post the map of my 1980 result I just got playing as Anderson:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=2;9;4&LA=1;10;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;3&MI=1;21;3&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;3&MO=1;12;4&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;17;3&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;3&NC=1;13;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;25;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=3;6;3&PA=2;27;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;4;4&TN=1;10;3&TX=2;26;3&UT=3;4;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;3&WV=3;6;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3)


Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 297

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 183

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 58

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


The effect of attack ads is just ridiculously overrated in this game. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 09, 2005, 11:19:14 am
And the 1976 election, played with McCarthy:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;4&KY=2;9;4&LA=1;10;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;4&MI=2;21;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;12;4&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;4&NV=1;3;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;17;4&NM=2;4;4&NY=1;41;4&NC=2;13;5&ND=1;3;4&OH=2;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;6;5&PA=2;27;5&RI=3;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=3;4;4&TN=3;10;4&TX=3;26;3&UT=2;4;5&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;12;4&WA=2;9;5&WV=3;6;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=1;3;3&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)


Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 269

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 204

Eugene McCarthy
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 65

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Pope Michael Bolton on June 09, 2005, 11:36:31 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;12;4&AZ=3;3;3&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;4&CO=3;6;3&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;4&FL=1;6;4&GA=1;14;4&ID=3;4;3&IL=1;29;3&IN=1;15;3&IA=1;13;3&KS=1;10;3&KY=1;13;3&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;6;3&MD=1;8;3&MA=2;18;3&MI=3;15;4&MN=3;12;3&MS=1;10;4&MO=1;18;3&MT=3;4;4&NE=1;8;3&NV=1;3;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;14;3&NM=3;3;3&NY=1;45;3&NC=1;12;5&ND=3;5;3&OH=1;24;3&OK=1;10;3&OR=3;5;3&PA=3;38;3&RI=1;5;5&SC=1;9;5&SD=3;5;3&TN=1;12;4&TX=1;20;4&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;4;4&VA=1;12;4&WA=3;7;3&WV=3;8;3&WI=1;13;3&WY=1;3;3)

Taft: 22%
Wilson(me): 34%
Roosevelt: 27%
Debbs: 14%

1912


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 09, 2005, 11:42:58 am
What is your strategy Old Europe? Is it that same old run tons of ads on the last couple of days strategy or is their something more to it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 09, 2005, 11:55:34 am
1968 as Wallace:

Nixon/Lodge vs. Humphrey/Muskie vs. Wallace/Le May vs. Decker

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;5;4&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;40;7&CO=1;6;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;14;4&GA=3;12;4&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;6&IN=3;13;4&IA=2;9;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=2;9;3&LA=3;10;5&ME=2;4;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;6&MI=2;21;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=3;7;4&MO=2;12;4&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;17;6&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;43;5&NC=3;13;5&ND=2;4;7&OH=1;26;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;7&PA=1;29;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;25;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=3;7;4&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;7)

Nixon: 40% 209 EVs
Humphrey: 45% 243 EVs
Wallace: 13% 87 EVs
Decker: 1% 0 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Wyoming 76.5%
Humphrey: California 79.7%
Wallace: Alabama 60.2%

Worst State:

Nixon: Alabama 10.5%
Humphrey: Georgia 7.7%
Wallace: New Mexico 0.0% (47)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 09, 2005, 11:59:28 am
What is your strategy Old Europe? Is it that same old run tons of ads on the last couple of days strategy or is their something more to it?

Uh, bascially yes. But I´m trying to test this strategy with all third-party candidates now. ;) You guys gave me the idea.




1960 with Harry Byrd:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;4&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=2;3;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;27;5&IN=1;13;4&IA=2;10;4&KS=2;8;5&KY=1;10;5&LA=1;10;4&ME=2;5;4&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=2;11;4&MS=3;8;8&MO=1;13;4&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;6;4&NV=2;3;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;45;4&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;25;4&OK=1;8;3&OR=3;6;3&PA=2;32;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;4;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=1;24;4&UT=3;4;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=3;12;3&WA=2;9;4&WV=2;8;5&WI=2;12;4&WY=3;3;4)


John F. Kennedy
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 284

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 213

Harry Byrd
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 40


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on June 09, 2005, 07:05:37 pm
Ok...this was really screwed up:

John McCain/Rick Santorum v. Ed Rendell/Mark Warner '08

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;7&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;7&MD=2;10;6&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;7&MS=2;6;8&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;8&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;6&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;6&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;8&OH=2;20;7&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;7&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;7&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;3;8&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;8&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;8&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;8&WI=2;10;7&WY=2;3;9&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6&NE=2;2;8&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;9)

McCain - 525 EVs; 69% (81,017,121)
Rendell - 13 EVs; 30% (36,397,727)

No, it isn't a mistake.  I lost Arizona...as McCain...with 69% of the vote... :-[

Homestates
Arizona
Rendell (D): 51.4% (1,109,597)
McCain (R): 48.5% (1,047,478)

Pennsylvania
McCain (R): 61.0% (3,181,095)
Rendell (D): 38.9% (2,030,742)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 09, 2005, 07:14:09 pm
Ok...this was really screwed up:

John McCain/Rick Santorum v. Ed Rendell/Mark Warner '08

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;7&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;7&MD=2;10;6&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;7&MS=2;6;8&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;8&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;6&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;6&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;8&OH=2;20;7&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;7&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;7&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;3;8&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;8&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;8&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;8&WI=2;10;7&WY=2;3;9&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;6&ME2=2;1;6&NE=2;2;8&NE1=2;1;8&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;9)

McCain - 525 EVs; 69% (81,017,121)
Rendell - 13 EVs; 30% (36,397,727)

No, it isn't a mistake.  I lost Arizona...as McCain...with 69% of the vote... :-[

Homestates
Arizona
Rendell (D): 51.4% (1,109,597)
McCain (R): 48.5% (1,047,478)

Pennsylvania
McCain (R): 61.0% (3,181,095)
Rendell (D): 38.9% (2,030,742)

It would be nice if the game was a little more realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on June 09, 2005, 10:50:29 pm
It would be nice if the game was a little more realistic.

At least Rick Santorum carried his homestate of Virginia with over 80% of the vote! :D ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 10, 2005, 10:45:41 am
Now it gets completely unrealistic...



Nader wins Bush´s homestate in 2000 :D :


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;3&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;4&OK=1;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)


George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 268

Al Gore
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 225

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 45


Election was tied, Congress elected Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 10, 2005, 04:37:39 pm
I finally won this game.  I was playing as Al Gore.  I actually won the Electoral Vote but lost the popular vote

Oh the irony. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on June 10, 2005, 04:46:40 pm
I finally won this game.  I was playing as Al Gore.  I actually won the Electoral Vote but lost the popular vote

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)
                      Bush                         Gore
Popular Vote: 63,646,046          60,858,127
Electoral Vote:  268                         270

I remember the first time I won the game.  It was on my fifteenth try against one opponent.  Dennis Kucinich was very tough to beat. . .


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 12, 2005, 08:02:40 am
2004 with Nader:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;33;3&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)


George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 39%
Electoral Vote: 261

John Kerry
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 248

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 29

Election tied, Congress elected Bush


I would like to know why I always win Virginia (!), when I´m playing as Nader?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 12, 2005, 08:40:21 am
1996 with Perot:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;3&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;5&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;3&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;6&VA=3;13;4&WA=3;11;6&WV=2;5;4&WI=3;11;5&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)


Dole
Popular Vote: 34%
Electoral Vote: 216

Clinton
Popular Vote: 30%
Electoral Vote: 184

Perot
Popular Vote: 32%
Electoral Vote: 138

Browne
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Clinton


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 12, 2005, 09:21:32 am
1968 with Wallace, after tons of attack speeches, attack ads, and released scandals:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;4&AR=3;6;6&CA=1;40;4&CO=3;6;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=2;3;4&DC=3;3;7&FL=3;14;5&GA=3;12;7&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;26;3&IN=3;13;6&IA=3;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=3;9;6&LA=3;10;8&ME=3;4;5&MD=3;10;6&MA=3;14;5&MI=3;21;6&MN=3;10;5&MS=3;7;7&MO=3;12;5&MT=3;4;6&NE=3;5;6&NV=3;3;6&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;17;5&NM=3;4;5&NY=3;43;5&NC=3;13;7&ND=3;4;5&OH=3;26;6&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;6;5&PA=3;29;6&RI=3;4;5&SC=3;8;6&SD=3;4;6&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;25;6&UT=3;4;6&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;12;6&WA=3;9;6&WV=3;7;6&WI=3;12;5&WY=3;3;5)


George Wallace
Popular Vote: 55%
Electoral Vote: 480

Hubert Humphrey
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 48

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 11


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 12, 2005, 10:18:41 am
I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue.  ???

???

???

???

???

Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 12, 2005, 10:36:56 am
I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue.  ???

???

???

???

???

Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness :P

Perot is a Democrat in your subconsciousness? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 12, 2005, 05:17:48 pm
They should really try to lower the power of attack ads, attack speeches, and scandals in this game... especially attack ads. And it should be much harder for a third-party candidate to get ALL endorsements. By getting all endorsements I practically multiplied my campaign budget by the factor of 32!



1980 with Clark:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;17;3&NM=3;4;3&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;25;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=3;6;3&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;4;4&TN=1;10;5&TX=3;26;3&UT=3;4;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;12;4&WA=3;9;4&WV=3;6;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)


Carter
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 269

Reagan
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 170

Clark
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 99

Anderson
Popular Vote: 6%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 13, 2005, 12:38:08 am
BRTD would be proud, I kicked ass as Debs:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nini2287/1912a.png)

I won't go into details, but:

Debs-Wilson-Taft-Roosevelt:
PV:  38%-20%-22%-18%
EV:  393-85-36-17


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 15, 2005, 12:57:33 pm
Powell/Cheney (Me): 54%
Sharpton/Edwards: 45%

I was hit with a bunch of big scandals late in the campaign.  I won Massachusetts 57.3-42.6.  This is one of the oddest maps I have ever seen.

My best state was Wymonig where I got 69.6%.  Sharpton's best was Arkansas where he got 56.5%.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on June 15, 2005, 01:38:53 pm
Must of had very high African-American turnout in Mississippi.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on June 16, 2005, 11:46:55 am
1968:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;5;5&AR=3;6;4&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;14;4&GA=3;12;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;9;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;3&LA=3;10;5&ME=2;4;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;4&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;4&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;26;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;3&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;3&TX=1;25;4&UT=1;4;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;12;6&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;7;4&WI=1;12;6&WY=1;3;5)
Humphrey
Popular Vote: 48,174,850     47%
Electoral Vote: 375

Nixon
Popular Vote: 42,608,568    42%
Electoral Vote: 118

Wallace
Popular Vote: 10,563,110   10%
Electoral Vote: 45

Closest State:
Alaska (Nixon-48.9%, Humphrey-48.8, only 164 votes between them)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 18, 2005, 12:10:38 pm
So, this was the "House of Representatives - USA 2002" scenario, played with "Prime Minister Forever - Canada".

I took the Libertarian Party and managed to get 21 House seats in the end.



Notes about the map:

1) The shades do not denote the popular vote, but the percentage of the total seats won by the party in the respective state.

2) Vermont was won by an Independent (Sanders), all other states who are marked with the Green colour were won by the Líbertarian Party.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;9&AZ=2;8;7&AR=1;6;7&CA=1;54;6&CO=2;8;7&CT=2;8;6&DE=2;3;9&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;25;7&GA=2;13;6&HI=1;4;9&ID=2;4;9&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;7&IA=2;7;8&KS=2;6;9&KY=2;8;9&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;9&MI=2;18;6&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;9&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;9&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=1;3;9&OH=2;21;6&OK=2;8;8&OR=1;7;8&PA=2;23;6&RI=1;4;9&SC=2;8;6&SD=3;3;9&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=3;3;9&VA=2;13;7&WA=3;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;11;5&WY=3;3;9&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;9&NE1=2;1;9&NE2=2;1;9&NE3=2;1;9)


Republican Party: 45%, 229 seats
Democratic Party: 39%, 184 seats
Libertarian Party: 10%, 21 seats
Independents: 5%, 2 seats (Sanders and James Traficant in Ohio)

Libertarian seats by state:
Texas - 10
Washington - 6
Louisiana - 1
South Dakota - 1
Utah - 1
Wisconsin - 1
Wyoming - 1


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 18, 2005, 04:35:16 pm
1980, I'm Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;6&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;45;5&CO=1;7;5&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;4&NC=2;13;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;4&PA=1;27;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;10;4&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 306 Electoral Votes, 47%
Ronald Reagan/George Bush: 232 Electoral Votes, 44%
John Anderson/His VP: 0 Electoral Votes, 7%

Carter best non-DC state: West Virginia

Carter: 63%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 1%

Reagan best state: Utah

Reagan: 74%
Carter: 23%
Anderson: 3%

Anderson best state: Vermont

Reagan: 35%
Carter: 34%
Anderson: 31%

Closest State: Massachusetts

Carter: 39%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 25%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 18, 2005, 10:28:53 pm
My 1996 Scenario "The Contract with America", with Vince McMahon as the Libertarian:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=4;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 254 Electoral Votes, 31% of the Popular Vote

Bob Dole/Kack Kemp: 138 Electoral Votes, 27% of the Popular Vote

Ross perot/Angus King: 133 Electiral Votes; 17% of the Popular Vote

Vince McMahon/Lary Elder: 13 Electoral Votes; 23% of the Popular Vote

What a race!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 20, 2005, 07:21:30 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;8;4&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;5&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;10;5&TX=1;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

Richard Nixon: 288 Electoral Votes, 48%
George McGovern: 250 Electoral Votes, 50%
John Schmitz: 0 Electoral Votes, 1%

I was very close in Washington, but outside of that I was about 4% away in South Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania.

I actually got in the upper 50% in Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, and Maryland.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on June 21, 2005, 10:15:27 am
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 21, 2005, 10:38:02 am
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 21, 2005, 11:31:46 am
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno

Yay :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 22, 2005, 08:17:38 am
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 03:20:31 pm
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on June 22, 2005, 04:08:47 pm
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 04:11:05 pm
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better

Usually putting them at 3 or 4 makes them do worse. It's only on 1 or 2 that they perform better.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 22, 2005, 04:46:38 pm
Thanks, Colin :)

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 07:18:12 pm
Thanks, Colin :)

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.

No problem. If that doesn't work I would suggest raising the money of the third party candidates while lowering that of the two major parties. If that still doesn't make it all that much closer, and more competitive, then you will need to probably change the starting totals and the party recognition numbers.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on June 22, 2005, 07:52:43 pm
Maybe you should make every member of the board a candidate and make a scenario to send into the website.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 24, 2005, 05:33:09 pm
(http://img191.echo.cx/img191/3628/adamshobbesbefore7dv.png)

Before.  Playing as Hobbes/Hastert versus a centrist Dem from Florida/Mark Warner.

(http://img17.echo.cx/img17/5175/adamshobbesafter7rw.png)

After. 

GOTV!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 24, 2005, 07:21:30 pm
My first 500+ game!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;6&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

Played against Wesley Clark/Hillary Clinton, this time with my VP being from Colorado.

I ended up with 56% (70,768,796) to Clark's 43% (53,594,434), and 509 to 29 in the Electoral.

Poor PBrunsel, I lost Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 28, 2005, 12:22:37 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=1;3;4&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=3;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;4&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;6&IN=2;12;3&IA=3;7;5&KS=3;6;5&KY=3;8;5&LA=3;9;4&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;12;5&MI=2;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;5&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=3;5;5&NY=3;33;5&NC=3;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=3;4;5&SC=1;8;3&SD=3;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;6&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;5&WV=3;5;5&WI=1;11;3&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

I played as Perot in this one (1992)...interesting out of the states Bush won, Clinton won most of them in real life


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2005, 07:15:14 am
Downloaded and played a 1996 scenario, played as Pete Wilson/Patrick Buchanan  vs. Clinton/Gore and this was the result.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;5&GA=1;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 04, 2005, 06:18:12 pm
My home made 1996 scenario once again. Here was the results of my Dan Quale ,96 Campaign:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Dan Quale/Tommy Thompson: 422 Electoral Votes; 57 percent of the popular vote

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 116 Electoral Votes; 42 percent of the popular vote

If Quale can beat Clinton that bad maybe I made it too biased. I have sent it in to the website and hopefully it appears soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on July 05, 2005, 08:15:09 pm
Just had the most frustrating PF result ever
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Howard Dean/John Edwards: 266 Electoral Votes; 53 Percent of the Popular Vote

George Bush/Dick Cheney: 272 Electoral Votes; 47 Percent of the Popular Vote

It was looking like a landslide for me up until the last two weeks, when i got hit by two level nine scandals, one right after another. This was the first PF game in weeks where I went into election day not knowing whether I'd win or not.   I thought I could survive CT and NH suddenly swinging against me, but after Hawaii reported in and I saw I had only 266... :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 13, 2005, 05:30:14 pm
John Kerry (D-MA) vs. George W. Bush (R-TX) vs. Cosmo Kramer (Independent Populist-AR)

Just wanted to see how well Kramer's populism could hold out in an Independent campaign. Regionalism and Dynasmism were on.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=3;6;4&CA=1;54;5&CO=3;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=3;6;3&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;5&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;3&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Bush: 32% PV 101 EVs
Kerry: 39% PV 308 EVs
Kramer: 27% 129 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 55.7%
Kerry: Rhode Island 67.3% (DC Kerry 60.8%)
Kramer: Alaska 48.9% followed by Utah 47.9%

Worst States:

Bush: Rhode Island 21.9%
Kerry: Utah 16.5%
Kramer: Rhode Island and Connecticut 10.7%

Kramer did best in the South and the West and mostly took away from Religious Bush voters instead of Southern Democrats. Georgia was the only state of the old Confederacy were Kramer got below 20% of the vote and except for North Carolina he won more than 25% in every Southern state. Kramer also did well in the Northeast garnering over 25% in 5 Northeastern states and came in second, to Kerry, in 4. I'll post party by party maps soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on July 15, 2005, 09:32:50 am
Interesting.......WOOT Alaska!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 15, 2005, 08:02:05 pm
1912: Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;12;4&AZ=3;3;4&AR=2;9;3&CA=3;13;5&CO=3;6;4&CT=3;7;4&DE=2;3;4&FL=3;6;3&GA=1;14;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;29;3&IN=3;15;4&IA=3;13;4&KS=3;10;4&KY=3;13;4&LA=1;10;3&ME=1;6;3&MD=3;8;3&MA=3;18;3&MI=3;15;4&MN=3;12;5&MS=3;10;3&MO=3;18;3&MT=2;4;4&NE=3;8;3&NV=3;3;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=2;14;3&NM=3;3;3&NY=3;45;3&NC=3;12;3&ND=3;5;4&OH=3;24;3&OK=2;10;3&OR=3;5;3&PA=3;38;3&RI=2;5;3&SC=1;9;3&SD=3;5;4&TN=3;12;3&TX=3;20;4&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;4;4&VA=2;12;3&WA=3;7;4&WV=3;8;3&WI=3;13;3&WY=1;3;3)

Taft: 25% 71 EVs
Wilson: 20% 48 EVs
Roosevelt: 36% 412 EVs
Debs: 17% O EVs

Best State:

Taft: Utah 55.8%
Wilson: Alabama 40.8%
Roosevelt: Minnesota 53.5%
Debs: Ohio 33.2%

Worst States:

Taft: Texas 10.1%
Wilson: South Dakota 8.9%
Roosevelt: Oklahoma 10.7%
Debs: Arkansas 0.0% (15)

More to come.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 19, 2005, 02:18:18 pm
I Created the leaders of the major parties in Sweden in PF and gave them the issue stands they hold in Sweden, but adjusted for American circumstances (favouring same tax rate would mean favouring low taxes in the game and so on) I was the libertarian and did nothing.

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Persson/Nuder (D): 46% and 195 EVs
Reinfeldt/Olofsson (R): 52% and 343 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna (L): 1% and 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on July 19, 2005, 02:32:16 pm
I ran Casey(D) v. Santorum(R) v. Hoeffel (I) 3 times. here's the average:

Santorum: 42%-2,412,973

Casey: 44%-2,537,323

Hoeffel:11.5%-624,134

(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5148/w00t6fj.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on July 19, 2005, 02:49:29 pm
PB, do you think you could send me your 1996 scenario?

(I'm itching to see if I can get President Bob Dornan. lol)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 19, 2005, 03:13:37 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

I ran as Persson and got this:
Persson: 56% and 466 EVs
Reinfeldt: 38% and 72 EVs
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 21, 2005, 06:55:57 am
Played Persson/Nuder v Bush/Cheney (and minor parties)

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

I started 150 EVs and about 3% behind. Final result:

Persson/Nuder: 398 EVs 54%
Bush/cheney: 140 EVs 40%
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 1%

Now, the Dakotas, Kentucky and South Carolina were all very, very close, South Carolina especially, Bush won by 1000 votes - not even a tenth of a percentage point.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 22, 2005, 09:05:29 am
can someone play me as a third party?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 23, 2005, 11:04:43 am
Hoover's Sweet Revenge!- 1944

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1944&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;11;8&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;9;6&CA=2;25;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=1;8;7&GA=1;12;8&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;28;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;11;5&LA=1;10;8&ME=2;5;5&MD=2;8;5&MA=2;16;5&MI=2;19;5&MN=2;11;5&MS=1;9;9&MO=1;15;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;47;5&NC=1;14;6&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=1;10;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;35;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;8&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;12;6&TX=1;23;7&UT=1;4;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;11;6&WA=1;8;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Herbert Hoover/Thomas Dewey (R): 50% of the Popular Vote; 290 Electoral Votes

Franklin Roosevelt/Jimmy Byrnes (D): 48% of the Popular Vote; 241 Electoral Votes

Norman Thomas/Thomas Maurer (S): 1% of the Popular Vote; Electoral Votes



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on July 28, 2005, 02:23:05 am
This was fun.

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7638/sully2ng.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on July 28, 2005, 01:42:56 pm
I should send info to Hobbes so I can see if he can defeat the power of a candidate who could win his home state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on July 31, 2005, 04:09:35 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=0;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=0;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=2;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=0;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=0;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=0;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=0;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=0;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=0;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=1;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)

I ran Bell Pepper vs. Jalepeno Pepper vs. Habenero Pepper. It was a close one.

Bell(D)=33% (76,097,884) 149

Jalepeno(R)=33% (75,166,070) 228

Habenero(I)=33% (74,578,314) 161

Congress picked the Bell Pepper.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on August 03, 2005, 06:34:19 am
I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on August 03, 2005, 10:19:30 am
I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0

You won Idaho :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on August 03, 2005, 10:43:23 am
You won Idaho :o

Yes, when you´re winning all states it happens that you´re winnng Idaho too. ;)


Actually, I always had my problems with Alaska. I managed to win all states, except Alaska, several times in the past. This is the first time I succeeded.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 03, 2005, 02:25:18 pm
I'm proud of this one, playing as Golisano.

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5810/newyorkmetro6qr.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 03, 2005, 03:17:33 pm
I'm proud of this one, playing as Golisano.

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5810/newyorkmetro6qr.png)

What scenario is that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 03, 2005, 05:46:14 pm
King of New York Metro.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 08, 2005, 04:16:23 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;3&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;4&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=3;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=3;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=2;23;3&RI=2;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

I ran as Colin Powell in that 2008 scenario with Frist for the GOP, Clark for the Democrats and Powell/Rice as independents.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 09, 2005, 07:20:52 pm
Best result ever as Wallace:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;5&CA=2;40;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;14;4&GA=3;12;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=3;13;4&IA=1;9;5&KS=2;7;4&KY=3;9;4&LA=3;10;6&ME=1;4;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=2;14;5&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=3;7;6&MO=1;12;4&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;17;6&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;43;5&NC=3;13;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;29;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=3;8;5&SD=2;4;4&TN=3;11;4&TX=1;25;4&UT=1;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;9;6&WV=3;7;4&WI=2;12;5&WY=1;3;4)

Nixon: 38% PV 258 EVs
Humphrey: 34% PV 150 EVs
Wallace: 26% PV 131 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Oregon 64.1%
Humphrey: Washington 64.8%
Wallace: Louisiana 68.4%

Worst State:

Nixon: Louisiana 8.6%
Humphrey: Georgia 8.6%
Wallace: Illinois 4.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on August 10, 2005, 12:36:58 am
I tried as Wallace.  I did a tad better, but not much:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;5;4&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;40;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;14;3&GA=3;12;6&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;4&IN=3;13;4&IA=2;9;3&KS=2;7;4&KY=2;9;3&LA=3;10;7&ME=2;4;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=1;14;3&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;5&MO=1;12;4&MT=1;4;4&NE=2;5;4&NV=1;3;4&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;4&NY=2;43;4&NC=3;13;4&ND=1;4;4&OH=3;26;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;4;3&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;25;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;4&VA=3;12;4&WA=1;9;5&WV=3;7;4&WI=2;12;5&WY=3;3;4)

Nixon 32% 121 EV
Humphrey 36% 252 EV
Wallace 30% 165 EV

Best State
Nixon Maine 58.2%
Humphrey Minnesota 58.6% (DC-58.3%)
Wallace Louisiana 73.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 11, 2005, 07:33:38 am
Where is the 1968 scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 11, 2005, 07:36:03 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=1;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=1;4;3&IL=1;22;4&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;4&ND=1;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=1;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;3&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;5&UT=1;5;3&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;3&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=1;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;4&NE=1;2;4&NE1=1;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=1;1;4)

Played standard 1992 with Clinton v Bush v Perot. No dynamism, spies or fog of war.

Clinton: 48% and 538 EVs
Bush: 34% and 0 EVs
Perot: 17% and 0 EVs

Best states:

Clinton:

South Carolina: 58%
Hawaii: 57.1%
West Virginia: 56.8%
New Jersey: 54%
Pennsylvania: 52.3%
Arkansas: 52.2%

Bush:

Georgia: 46.4%
New Mexico: 42.7%
Arkansas: 42%
Alabama: 41.9%
Tennessee: 40.2%
Lousiana: 40%

(those were the only states where Bush got over 40%)

Perot:

Arizona: 36.2%
Utah: 34.6%
Washington: 31.4%
Idaho: 30.7%
Kansas: 30.4%
Oklahoma: 29.8%

Worse states:

Clinton:

Arizona: 37.1%
Utah: 38.5%
Rhode Island: 38.6%
Idaho: 39.2%
Washington: 39.2%
(only states where Clinton didn't get at least 40%)

Bush:

North Dakota: 24.4%
Oregon: 26.4%
Arizona: 26.6%
Utah: 26.8%
Oklahoma: 27.5%

Perot:

South Carolina: 5.2%
Mississippi: 5.3%
Arkansas: 5.7%
Georgia: 6.1%
Tennessee: 6.3%

Closest states:
Arizona: Clinton over Perot by 0.9%, about 14 000 votes
Georgia: Clinton over Bush by 1%, about 29 000 votes
Rhode Island: Clinton over Bush by 2.8%, about 12 000 votes
New Mexico: Clinton over Bush by 3.2%, about 21 000 votes

DC was Clinton 86%, Bush 11.2% and Perot 2.7%.

Yeehaah! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on August 12, 2005, 08:17:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;3&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;3&DC=3;3;4&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=3;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=1;6;3&KY=3;8;4&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;3&MI=1;18;3&MN=1;10;3&MS=3;7;4&MO=1;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=1;4;3&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=2;23;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=3;8;4&SD=3;3;3&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=3;13;4&WA=1;11;3&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)
The 2008 Colin Powell Scenario, I played as Powell.
Frist/Santorum: 31%, 92 EV
Clark/Edwards: 31%, 237 EV
Powell/Rice: 36%, 209 EVs

It was a close race. Most states didn't even have a 5% difference between first and second place.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 04:45:48 pm
Bush v. Sharpton v. Nader:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush - 61,785,481 votes (49%)
Sharpton - 57,625,484 votes (46%)
Nader - 4,913,408 votes (3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 06:40:11 pm
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 13, 2005, 08:09:01 pm
Ran both Kennedy and Nixon, trying to imitate the real life scenario

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;4&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;3;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;27;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;10;5&LA=2;10;4&ME=2;5;5&MD=2;9;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=2;8;5&MO=1;13;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;4&PA=1;32;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;8;6&WI=2;12;5&WY=1;3;5)

The race was highly entertaining. Kennedy was winning by a large margin when Nixon suddenly swung it back in the last weeks. Desperate catch-up efforts from Kennedy were to no avail.

Kennedy: 49% and 39.2 million votes, 184 EVs
Nixon: 49% and 38.9 million votes, 353 EVs

(that's right, Kennedy got Gored...poor guy) Kennedy won over 60% of the vote in PA and NY.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 11:09:39 pm
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8739/rcrs8lw.jpg)

Social Security all the way!

Ran an attack ad that "backfired" (but sank Santorum's momentum), ran a positive Social Security ad, followed by another negative ad against Santorum (which sank him even more), and a last minute positive ad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 14, 2005, 02:42:41 am
And another beating:

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6430/rcrs23ui.jpg)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DanielX on August 14, 2005, 05:59:42 pm
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

BLUH!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 14, 2005, 07:39:16 pm
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

BLUH!

It's on a scenario, and it was before I found the secret of President Forever, which involves attack ads


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 15, 2005, 02:33:19 pm
I ran as both a generic Republican and a generic Democrat, trying to create equal candidates. The Republican was centre-right on everything, the Democrat centre-left. They had equal stats on everything. The Republican had Cheney as running mate and was from Georgia himself, the Democrat was from New Jersey and had Clark for a running mate. The campaign was highly entertaining with the Republican starting out ahead and the Democrat slowly catching up. Towards the later stages of the campaign the battle was for two groups of states; the tossups, such as Minnesota, West Virginia, Missouri and New Mexico and the Republican-leaning states, such as Tennesse, Arizona, Georgia and Florida. As the Republican focused on consolidating his 270+ electoral base the Democrat tried to reach above 270 EVs. With two weeks left, the Republican had the Bush 2004 states minus Missouri, Virginia, West Virginia and New Mexico, plus Wisconsin, the Democrat had the Kerry states minus Wisconsin and Minnesota, plus Virginia and Missouri. Minnesota, West Virginia and New Mexico were tossups. The Republican was thus ahead by about 10 EVs. With one week left Minnesota swung to the Democrats and Nevada became a tossup. At this point it was becoming clear that West Virginia was likely to go Democrat as well, giving the Democratic candidate a narrow majority. The Republican camp, desperate to edge out a win found only one state where the number of undecided was high enough to offer hope of victory - Vermont. Pulling out of West Virginia they threw everything at Vermont. With one day left Nevada went Republican and Vermont was down to a one point difference. Both candidates needed to win two out of the trio WV, NM and VT. The results in all 3 states were within 3 points, the naitonal popular vote within tenths of percents.






(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Right/Cheney: 267 EVs
Left/Clark: 271 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on August 15, 2005, 05:43:37 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;21;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;23;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;10;6&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;6)
Dynamism off, and I didn't do that last day ad trick.
I got this as Mondale. I won the popular vote, but barely lost the electoral vote. Kentucky was a swing state during the last week, I was hoping I'd get it and win.

I was able to get a couple of big scandals on Reagan. In the midst of the scandals, I noticed Texas had more undecided voters than the difference between the two candidates, so I heavily campaigned there until I won the state over.
Reagan: 47%, 277 EVs
Mondale: 52%, 261 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 15, 2005, 07:55:49 pm
Hey can someone play me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on August 15, 2005, 07:56:32 pm
Hey can someone play me?

wait...you can play over the internet?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 15, 2005, 08:02:51 pm
Hey can someone play me?

wait...you can play over the internet?
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on August 15, 2005, 08:22:26 pm
Hey can someone play me?

wait...you can play over the internet?
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.
i see. well, sure. give me the info and ill run you against me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on August 15, 2005, 09:48:37 pm
Hey can someone play me?


Am I imagining things, or haven't you had people do that at least two or three times already?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 17, 2005, 12:27:03 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1996&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=2;8;3&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;6&FL=3;25;5&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;5&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;5&NC=3;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;5&RI=3;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;13;5&WA=3;11;5&WV=3;5;5&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Hobbes/Owens (Progressive) 45%  420 electoral votes
Inhofe/Rice (Republican)  33%  118 electoral votes
Dean/Richardson (Democratic) 20% 0 electoral votes

The new Bull Moose Party (played on The Wedge - 2008 scenario) destroyed, basically because I targeted Dean with three highly successful ads on terrorism and one highly successful Hobbes integrity ad that I spaced out nationally for three days over a two-week period.  On the last day I ran $3 million worth of one anti-Dean ad, effectively regulating the Democrats to third party status.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 17, 2005, 01:06:40 pm
Hey can someone play me?

wait...you can play over the internet?
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.
i see. well, sure. give me the info and ill run you against me.

here you go...

Republican
Josh
Craddock
North Carolina

V.P.
Gov. Jeb Bush
Florida
+1 Leadership
4
4
4
3
5
3


CR
R
CR
C
L
CL
R
CL
CL
C
L
C
C
CR
C
C
C
C


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 17, 2005, 01:53:18 pm
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 17, 2005, 02:17:37 pm
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?

Because I don't have the game and my dad wont let me download it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 19, 2005, 05:13:33 pm
Playing as Wallace (including an election day "ad dump" where I run four ads in every state):

(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2825/rnhhgw4qe.jpg)

And Congress elected Humphrey


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 19, 2005, 07:17:32 pm
All hail your new Fourth party Overlords!

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/940/hcm6vr.jpg)

The three main candidates and their views.

James Cox (D-OH)

The Tariff - CL (Tariffs only for revenue generation)
Direct Democracy - CL (For primaries, Senate elections, referendums, initiative and recalls)
The League of Nations - L (The League must be created with full US Involvement)
Business Regulation - CL (The Federal government should charter business)
The Treaty of Versailles - CL (Versailles is a little too harsh on Germany)
Isolationism - CL (America should pay attention to foreign affairs)
Labor - CL (Labor Unions are a workers best protection against exploitation)
Agriculture - CL (We need better price controls)
Government expenditures - CL (Modest increase in expenditures, focus on effectiveness)
Cost of Living - C (Rising costs can be offset with growth)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CL (Helping Europe should be balanced with domestic concerns)
Wall Street - CL (We should be wary of the power of Wall Street)
Taxes - C (Taxes are fine as the are)
Russia - CL (We should return troops to Russia if others do)
Socialism - CL (Socialism has ideas which we can learn from)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A Great President)
Unemployment - C (Aid for a good number of depressed areas)

Warren Harding (R-OH)

Tariff - CR (Tariffs are for the protection of business and for revenue)
Direct Democracy - C (Elections are a state's issues)
The League of Nations - CR (If the League is created, the USA should not be involved)
Business Regulation - CR (We should be wary of business regulation)
The Treaty of Versailes - CR (Versailles is a little too lenient on Germany)
Isolationism - CR (America shouldn't care what happens elsewhere)
Labor Unions - CR (Unions are undermining our economy)
Agriculture - CR (Agriculture must adapt to modern business standards)
Government Expenditures - CR (Government expenditures need to be reduced)
Cost of Living - CR (Less government spending will reduce prices)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CR (They made the mess, let them clean it up)
Wall Street - CR (Strong Financial Markets are Vital and Should be Encouraged)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - CR (Europe is in a mess of it's own making)
Socialism - CR (Socialism is contrary to the American way)
The Wilson Legacy - CR (A Poor President)
Unemployment - R (No federal stimulus is necessary)

Robert Martin (F-SC)

Tariff - C (Tariffs should be used to protect labor interests and revenue)
Direct Democracy - R (The Democracy is fine as it is)
The League of Nations - R (The creation of the League should be fought at all costs)
Business Regulation - R (Business is not the concern of Government)
The Treaty of Versailes - C (It's not our problem)
Isolationism - R (America doesn't need the rest of the World)
Labor Unions - C (Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns)
Agriculture - L (We need massive subsidies to save farmers)
Government Expenditures - R (Dramatically reduce the size of the Federal Government)
Cost of Living - R (Rising costs are not a governmental concern)
Anti-Trust Laws - C (Business competitition should be regulated)
Rebuilding Europe - R (Leave them to it)
Wall Street - L (Wall Street is becoming too powerful)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - R (America should not become involved)
Socialism - R (Socialism is a threat to our Democracy)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A great President)
Unemployment - CR (Aid for a few depressed areas)

So. How did I do it.

#1 - Spending a lot of money

#2 - Running ads against Cox on the League of Nations

#3 - Running ads against Harding on his intregity.

Other Stuff:

Results from the former Confederate States:
Martin - 46.93% (8991872)
Cox - 34.01% (6516595)
Harding - 15.66% (3000525)
Debs - 3.40% (650855)

From the other 37 states
Harding - 39.88% (23577186)
Martin - 38.22% (22592019)
Cox - 15.44% (9129086)
Debs - 6.46% (3817302)

The five best states for Debs
California - 19.73% (2nd place, 1364234)
Arkansas - 16.69% (4th place, 131980)
Arizona - 10.40% (4th place, 59702)
Minnesota - 10.32% (3rd place, 155014)
Massachusetts - 9.5% (4th place, 216574)

The five worst states for Debs
West Virginia - 0.04% (292 votes)
South Carolina - 0.53% (5626 votes)
Texas - 0.87% (36811 votes)
Montana - 1.05% (3104 votes)
Virginia - 1.49% (25919 votes)

The five best and worst for Cox

Best: AL (52%), SC (43%), MS (41%), GA (40%), AR (40%)
Worst: WI (7%), ND (9%), MN (9%), MI (10%),  VT (11%)

The five best and worst for Harding

Best: ND (52%), MI (51%), IA (51%), CA (50%), MN (49%)
Worst: SC (0.72%), MS (7%), GA (13%), LA (14%), TX (14%)

The five best and worst for Martin

Best: WV (56%), SC (56%), TX (55%), UT (53%), VA (53%)
Worst: AR (18%), CA (19%), AL (22%), AZ (25%), DE (29%)

Martin won a majority in 10 states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 21, 2005, 07:20:58 am
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=2;6;3&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=2;3;3&DC=1;3;4&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=3;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=2;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=1;33;3&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=3;4;3&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;3&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Running a super-independent with 200 000 000 all 5s and centrist positions.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on August 26, 2005, 12:10:21 am
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?

Because I don't have the game and my dad wont let me download it.

1. Do you have your own computer?

2. Just send them a money order, that's what I did.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 27, 2005, 11:57:59 pm
Same as above but now with 300 million instead of 200.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;3&CA=3;54;3&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;3&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=3;7;3&KS=3;6;3&KY=3;8;3&LA=3;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=3;7;3&MO=3;11;3&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;3&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=3;8;3&SD=3;3;3&TN=3;11;3&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;3&NE=3;2;3&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

John Smith: 37%, 449 electoral votes
George W Bush: 31%, 52 electoral votes
John F Kerry: 30%, 37 electoral votes

You may note that the only states where someone got more than 40% were Bush in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Alaska. (Kerry got 50.9% in DC). All the states were relatively close (at least within 10 points, most within 5). Can't be bothered to post all the close results, but there were many. Bush and Kerry were redeuced to their few strongholds: IN, UT, WY, ID, AL, AK and OK for Bush (who also managed to get away with Arkansas and North Dakota), MA, RI and DC for Kerry (Kerry won MA by less than 3000 votes) He also won NJ and DE, the former by 5000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 05, 2005, 02:06:18 pm
The Cosmo Kramer Project

I'm personally very interested in how well a Populist independent would do nationally. So I did a little tweaking. I first off tweaked the Dean the Independent - 2004 scenario to give the independent a 5 in party visibility. I then made Preston's character, Arkansas Governor Cosmo Kramer, and got his issue positions off of the P4E Game that we were doing early this year. I also gave him 250,000,000 dollars. I use regionalism on all these sometimes with sometimes without dynamism.

First election:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=3;6;4&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;5&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=3;3;4&TN=3;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;4&VA=3;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

George W. Bush (Republican): 38% 225 EVs
John Kerry (Democratic): 31% 96 EVs
Cosmo Kramer (Independent Populist): 28% 217 EVs
Michael Badnarik (player) (Libertarian): 1% 0 EVs

Second Election:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=3;3;3&AZ=1;8;3&AR=3;6;4&CA=2;54;4&CO=1;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;3&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=3;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=2;4;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;3&TN=3;11;3&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

One of Kramer's best.

Bush (Republican): 33% 115 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 35% 197 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 28% 226 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;3&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;6&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

One of the more realistic maps.

Bush (Republican): 38% 252 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 38% 270 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 21% 16 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;3&AK=3;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=2;54;5&CO=3;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;5&IN=3;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=1;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=3;9;4&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=2;4;5&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;6&NM=3;5;3&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=3;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=3;3;3&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

Bush (Republican): 35% 202 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 37% 208% EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 23% 128 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;25;5&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=3;22;3&IN=3;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=3;18;3&MN=1;10;4&MS=3;7;3&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush (Republican): 35% 156 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 35% 194 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 24% 188 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;8;4&AR=3;6;4&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;4&MT=3;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;33;5&NC=3;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=2;4;5&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

A map in which Preston steals huge amounts from Kerry.

Bush (Republican): 40% 310 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 32% 107 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 24% 121 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Well that's it for this edition of the Cosmo Kramer Project. Check back again later for more.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on September 05, 2005, 05:49:44 pm
Hmm.  While this is very interesting, Colin, I doubt this is very realistic.  I don't think this game has any real concept of multi-dimensional issue dynamics, and it just calculates the left-to-ring average from the sum of each issue, instead of treating each issue seperately.  I'm very confused to why I repeatedly win Oklahoma, some of the great plains states, and even Arizona and New Hampshire at times, while I lose Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi quite often.  I would also say I should win Arkansas and West Virginia every time if I win any states at all.  It makes me think the game is just treating me as a generic centrist independent, considering my economic positions and social positions would just about cancel out, making me barely left of the center.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 05, 2005, 11:02:56 pm
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 06, 2005, 04:58:49 am
Hmm.  While this is very interesting, Colin, I doubt this is very realistic.  I don't think this game has any real concept of multi-dimensional issue dynamics, and it just calculates the left-to-ring average from the sum of each issue, instead of treating each issue seperately.  I'm very confused to why I repeatedly win Oklahoma, some of the great plains states, and even Arizona and New Hampshire at times, while I lose Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi quite often.  I would also say I should win Arkansas and West Virginia every time if I win any states at all.  It makes me think the game is just treating me as a generic centrist independent, considering my economic positions and social positions would just about cancel out, making me barely left of the center.

Preston, I think there are two key diffculties with the game.1: they don't allow for party strength to vary depending to candidates. With a populist Democrat the bloc strength in states like Arkansas and West Virginia would change quite a lot. 2: the regional issue centres are, to put it simply, wrong on many occassions. West Virginia is Centre on Free Trade. Need I say more?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 09, 2005, 06:18:56 pm
Simmed on "Top Dogs: 2008"

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;10;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=3;5;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=3;40;3&CO=1;6;3&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;5&FL=3;14;4&GA=3;12;5&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;26;5&IN=3;13;4&IA=3;9;5&KS=3;7;4&KY=3;9;5&LA=3;10;5&ME=3;4;4&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;14;5&MI=3;21;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;12;4&MT=3;4;6&NE=3;5;5&NV=3;3;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=3;17;4&NM=3;4;4&NY=3;43;5&NC=3;13;4&ND=3;4;5&OH=3;26;6&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;6;5&PA=3;29;4&RI=3;4;5&SC=3;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;12;5&WA=3;9;6&WV=3;7;5&WI=3;12;5&WY=3;3;5)

Jesse Ventura/Angus King - 62,040,460 votes (49.93%)/511 EV
Hillary Rodham Clinton/Wesley Clark - 33,976,083 votes (27.34%)/15 EV
Rudy Giuliani/Bill Frist - 28,248,117 votes (22.73%)/12 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 10, 2005, 04:36:36 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;3;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;27;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;10;4&LA=1;10;4&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=2;11;5&MS=1;8;4&MO=2;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;4;6&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;14;6&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;32;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;6&TX=1;24;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;5)

Changed all the blips in the 1960 game and played as Decker to see what would happen:

Kennedy: 274 EVs, 49%
Nixon: 263 EVs, 46%
Faubus: 2%
Decker: 0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2005, 03:12:11 pm
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D

I may just do that. Let me find your stats.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 10, 2005, 04:12:41 pm
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D

I may just do that. Let me find your stats.

Thanks, Colin!!! :) ;D :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 13, 2005, 07:44:14 pm
Simmed on "The Great Crash"

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;11;8&AZ=1;4;6&AR=1;9;7&CA=1;25;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=2;3;4&FL=1;8;5&GA=1;12;6&ID=1;4;4&IL=2;28;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;10;4&KS=2;8;3&KY=3;11;4&LA=1;10;6&ME=2;5;4&MD=1;8;4&MA=2;16;4&MI=2;19;4&MN=3;11;4&MS=1;9;6&MO=3;15;5&MT=3;4;5&NE=3;6;4&NV=3;3;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;16;4&NM=3;4;4&NY=2;47;3&NC=3;14;4&ND=3;4;5&OH=3;25;3&OK=3;10;4&OR=3;6;5&PA=3;35;4&RI=2;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;4;4&TN=3;12;5&TX=3;23;5&UT=3;4;3&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;11;5&WA=3;8;5&WV=3;8;4&WI=3;12;5&WY=3;3;5)

Cooper Chambers (Socialist) - 53761170 (37%), 237 EV
Herbert Hoover (Republican) - 37812591 (26%), 192 EV
Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - 50906941 (35%), 103 EV

Don't ask about the high vote numbers.

And the Congress elected FDR


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 13, 2005, 07:49:11 pm
RBH, that's one crazy map!! :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DanielX on September 14, 2005, 02:35:55 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;9&AK=2;3;9&AZ=2;10;8&AR=2;6;8&CA=2;55;7&CO=2;9;8&CT=2;7;7&DE=2;3;7&DC=2;3;5&FL=2;27;8&GA=2;15;8&HI=2;4;7&ID=2;4;9&IL=2;21;7&IN=2;11;9&IA=2;7;7&KS=2;6;9&KY=2;8;9&LA=2;9;8&MD=2;10;7&MA=2;12;7&MI=2;17;8&MN=2;10;7&MS=2;6;9&MO=2;11;8&MT=2;3;9&NV=2;5;7&NH=2;4;8&NJ=2;15;7&NM=2;5;8&NY=2;31;6&NC=2;15;8&ND=2;3;9&OH=2;20;8&OK=2;7;9&OR=2;7;7&PA=2;21;8&RI=2;4;7&SC=2;8;9&SD=2;3;9&TN=2;11;8&TX=2;34;7&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;7&VA=2;13;8&WA=2;11;7&WV=2;5;8&WI=2;10;8&WY=2;3;9&ME=2;2;7&ME1=2;1;7&ME2=2;1;7&NE=2;2;9&NE1=2;1;9&NE2=2;1;8&NE3=2;1;9)
Me - 85%
Kerry - 12%
Nader - 3%

My worst state (other than D.C.) was New York with 64.5%.  That was fun.  My best state was Idaho with 98%, Kerry only got 50 votes.

Is DC going Republican? OMG. Did Kerry admit to eating babies or something?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Justin on September 15, 2005, 12:57:31 am
The Results I got while Playing as Howard Dean in the Dean the independent Scenario. Suffice to say It was the most embarrassing moment for the Democrats since Mondale's whipping in 1984, who were held to just 7 states plus DC. The GOP had a similar fate as well. Bush went on to lose Ohio, WV and VA, NH, his home state of Texas to bring about a Dean Presidency in 2004.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;5&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=3;22;4&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;6&MD=1;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;3&ND=2;3;6&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;5&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;6&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Final Tally:

Bush: 33% pv| 42,103,659 Votes| 186 EV
Kerry: 30% PV| 37,356,716 votes| 55 EV
Howard Dean: 33% PV| 41,164,707| 297 EV
Badnarik: 3% PV| 3,788,513 Votes| 0 EV

Margin of Bush pop Vote Victory: 938,952 Votes

*Note New Mexico Should be in the Bush collumn


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 15, 2005, 05:08:54 pm
THE CASEY REESE PROJECT

Based off the Cosmo Kramer project using my same modified scenario. I will be running a number of elections using President Forever and will post the results.

Test 1:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;5&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;3&MA=2;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;5&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Reese has a reverse Perot like effect. This time allowing Bush to steal places like California, Vermont and Massachusetts while Reese's appeal to right leaning voters gives Kerry the edge in Georgia.

George W. Bush (Republican): 43% 357 EVs
John Kerry (Democratic): 34% 170 EVs
Max Power (Independent): 19% 3 EVs
Michael Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;3&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;3&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;3&NY=2;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;4&WV=3;5;3&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;3&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)
Bush (Republican): 42% 350 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 33% 152 EVs
Reese (Independent): 22% 36 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;25;3&GA=2;13;6&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=3;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bush (Republican): 39% 241 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 36% 264 EVs
Reese (Independent): 21% 33 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;3&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=2;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;3&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=3;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=2;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;3&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;3&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush: 37% 280 EVs
Kerry: 37% 214 EVs
Reese: 20% 44 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;3&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush: 41% 296 EVs
Kerry: 35% 207 EVs
Reese: 20% 35 EVs
Badnarik: 4% 0 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=2;33;4&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=2;4;4&SC=2;8;6&SD=3;3;3&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;6&WA=1;11;3&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush: 407 EVs
Kerry: 44 EVs
Reese: 17 EVs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;3&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=2;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;3&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;3&NY=2;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;3&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;3&WV=2;5;3&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush: 41% 394 EVs
Kerry: 34% 133 EVs
Reese: 21% 11 EVs

Well that's it folks. I may come out with more, and less realistic maps, later if you want them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 15, 2005, 07:58:27 pm
That's odd..... Thanks, Colin!!! ;D :) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 15, 2005, 07:59:21 pm
That's odd..... Thanks, Colin!!! ;D :) :)

What do you mean by that's odd? I took out the ones where you one places like Arkansas and Mississippi and 200 EVs since they weren't very realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 15, 2005, 09:02:43 pm
That's odd..... Thanks, Colin!!! ;D :) :)

What do you mean by that's odd? I took out the ones where you one places like Arkansas and Mississippi and 200 EVs since they weren't very realistic.
The fact that I was, like you said, a reverse-Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 17, 2005, 03:17:58 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

I played as Bush against Kerry. In this game I never moved either George Bush or Dick Cheney -both of them stayed in place the entire game.
Bush: 290 EV & 50%
Kerry: 248 EV & 49%

edit: oops. Tennessee went for Kerry, not Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 19, 2005, 01:32:48 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

This was one of my most exciting races ever. I played as myself (moderate libertarian with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s. Running mate was Hillary Clinton who added leadership)

Lundgren/Clinton: 48% (60 373 812) and 278 EVs
Bush/Cheney: 48% (60 117 059) and 260 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%

Best states:

Bush:
Utah (74.3%)
Idaho (74.1%)
Nebraska (72.6%)
Alabama (69.3%)
Wyoming (69.1%)

Lundgren:
Oregon (64.4%)
Michigan (63.9%)
Pennsylvania (61.9%)
Washington (61%)
Iowa (60.9%)
Minnesota (60.5%)

Nader:
Illinois (8.2%)
Wisconsin (5.5%)
Vermont (5.3%)
Arizona (4.7%)
Utah (3.5%)

Badnarik:
Arizona (6.4%)
Texas (3.7%)
Nevada (2.9%)

Closest states:
Missouri, Lundgren by 0.0% (1 743 votes)
Florida, Bush by 1% (70 033 votes)

This one was really close, swinging back and forth. With one day left I was one point ahead in Florida, one behind in Missouri, so when I lost Florida I thought it was all over...




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 19, 2005, 05:52:39 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;6&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;12;4&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;27;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;6&TX=1;26;6&UT=2;4;7&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;12;5&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;6;4&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

Tweaked the game to make it more realistic (weakening Carter, generally).

Carter/Mondale: 48%, 354 EVs
Reagan/Bush: 43%, 184 EVs
Anderson/Lucey: 5%, 0 EVs

Best states:

Carter:
Tennessee (65.6%)
Kentucky (64.6%)
Georgia (64.4%)
Texas (60.5%)
Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)

Reagan:
Utah (71.5%)
Idaho (64%)
North Dakota (62.3%)
Nebraska (62.2%)
Wyoming (61.9%)
Nevada (60%)

Andersson:
California (19.9%)
Vermont (18.9%)
Rhode Island (15.2%)
Massachussetts (14.2%)
Colorado (13.6%)

Closest states:
West Virginia, Carter by 0.2% or about 1 600 votes
Missouri, Reagan by 1.3% or about 30 000 votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 25, 2005, 07:39:26 pm
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7599/bkmb1overall3ks.png)

Bush- 35%, 239 EV
Kerry- 33%, 196 EV
[Your] Mom- 26%, 103 EV
Badnarik- 3%, 0 EV

Bush %s:
(http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/5075/bkmb1republican5jm.png)

Kerry %s:
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8150/bkmb1democrat2qw.png)

Mom/Badnarik %s:
(http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/1439/bkmb1independent6bj.png)

(*'s indicate places were Badnarik got >5%)

I won Wisconsin by 932 votes.  However, I lost Arkansas by 2,300 :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2005, 04:56:48 pm
I ran as myself vs. Bush.  I made myself a 1-term governor with little experience or leadership but good charisma and debating skills.  I chose Gephardt as my running mate...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Me/Gephardt 280 (47%)
Bush/Cheney 258 (47%)
Nader 4%
Nolan 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 26, 2005, 08:14:58 pm
The result in this election was rather disappointing; I gave Federate $80,000,000 to start out with, but he didn't do so well considering :( (I suppose it's because my anti-Bush ad backfired, though I did get a couple of scandals on him (and Kerry contributed) within the last week so his momentum was -442 on Election Day :o (Kerry's was -122, mine was +168))

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;3&GA=1;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;7;3&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=3;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=2;4;4&SC=3;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=3;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)
Kerry/Edwards: 37%, 234 EV
Bush/Cheney: 34%, 138 EV
Con Federate/Reb El: 28%, 166 EV

I didn't win any states that weren't targeted in my electoral strategy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on September 29, 2005, 02:07:34 am
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7599/bkmb1overall3ks.png)

Bush- 35%, 239 EV
Kerry- 33%, 196 EV
[Your] Mom- 26%, 103 EV
Badnarik- 3%, 0 EV

Hahaha, glad to see that Washington is a family-friendly state. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on September 29, 2005, 02:33:39 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=0;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

2008 Hypothetical

Rick Santorum/Jeb Bush: 41%

Russ Feingold/Mark Warner: 45%

Ralph Nader/David Cobb: 13%

This was really creepy. Nader won 14 electoral votes and came rather close to victories in MA, CA, and.....NC. ??? ??? ??? Anyway, near the end of the campaign, 2 out of the thre debates went to Nader. that mixed with Santorum getting 3 scandals in a week result in this unusual map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 05, 2005, 03:13:32 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;21;6&GA=2;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;24;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;6&KY=1;9;5&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;7;6&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;7&NV=2;4;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;36;6&NC=2;13;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;23;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;25;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;29;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;6&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;6&WY=2;3;7&ME=2;2;6&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;6)

Tweaked the 1984 game to make it more Reagan-friendly (closer to the real-life result). Without dynamism it's damn near unwinnable. I played as Mondale.

Mondale: 48%, 253 EVs
Reagan: 50%, 285 EVs
LaRouche: 0%
Bergland: 0%

There were no really close states, though Michigan and California were the tossups heading into the election. I won Michigan 52.8% v 47%, Reagan won California 53.3% v 44.6%. :(



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on October 12, 2005, 09:53:11 pm
That crazy Kerry vs. Republicans vs. Ventura vs. Constituion Sceanrio:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;3&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=3;3;4&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;3&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=1;12;3&MI=2;18;3&MN=3;10;6&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;3&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;6&NJ=1;15;3&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=3;11;6&WY=2;3;3&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

George Allen/Robert Ehrlich (R): 32% (49,306,964) Popular Vote; 333 Electoral Votes

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 28% (23,085,624) of the Popular Vote; 178 Electoral Votes

Bill Gates/Jesse Ventura (I): 34% (52,449,166) of the Popular Vote; 154 Electoral Votes

Michael Perotuka/Jim Clymer (C): 3% (5,336,461) of the Popular Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

As Gates, I won the popular vote! :D



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on October 15, 2005, 10:44:25 am
Is that the one made by me? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on October 21, 2005, 03:02:07 pm
(http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/6915/rrjc1se.jpg)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;6;6&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;45;6&CO=1;7;7&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;17;7&GA=1;12;7&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;8&IL=1;26;7&IN=1;13;7&IA=1;8;7&KS=1;7;7&KY=1;9;7&LA=1;10;7&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;14;7&MI=1;21;7&MN=1;10;7&MS=1;7;7&MO=1;12;7&MT=1;4;8&NE=1;5;8&NV=1;3;8&NH=1;4;8&NJ=1;17;7&NM=1;4;7&NY=1;41;7&NC=1;13;7&ND=1;3;8&OH=1;25;7&OK=1;8;8&OR=1;6;7&PA=1;27;7&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;7&SD=1;4;8&TN=1;10;7&TX=1;26;7&UT=1;4;8&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;12;7&WA=1;9;7&WV=1;6;7&WI=1;11;7&WY=1;3;8&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;8&ME2=1;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 22, 2005, 08:33:12 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1952&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=1;11;6&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;5&GA=1;12;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;27;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;6&KS=2;8;6&KY=1;10;4&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;6&MD=2;9;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=1;8;6&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;45;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;6&PA=2;32;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;11;4&TX=1;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;7&VA=1;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;6)

Stevenson: 49% 270

Eisenhower: 48% 261


Phew! Close one! I needed Illonois and Oregon for the win, and I barely pulled them both.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 01, 2005, 08:25:07 pm
Tom DeLay/Bob Taft (R) v. John Kerry/Mark Warner (D)
v. Earl Washburn/Bernie Sanders (I) v. Donald Trump/Jesse Ventura,
President, 2008


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;10;3&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;5;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;40;4&CO=3;6;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=3;3;6&FL=3;14;4&GA=2;12;3&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;26;4&IN=3;13;6&IA=3;9;4&KS=3;7;3&KY=3;9;6&LA=2;10;3&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=3;10;7&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;12;6&MT=3;4;6&NE=3;5;5&NV=1;3;4&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;17;4&NM=3;4;4&NY=3;43;6&NC=3;13;3&ND=3;4;6&OH=3;26;7&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;6;6&PA=3;29;6&RI=3;4;6&SC=3;8;6&SD=3;4;6&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;25;7&UT=3;4;6&VT=3;3;6&VA=3;12;6&WA=3;9;6&WV=3;7;6&WI=3;12;7&WY=3;3;6)

Trump/Ventura- 51% (64,176, 484) [413 EVs]
Kerry/Warner- 27% (34,106,503) [98 EVs]
DeLay/Taft- 19% :P (24,285,827) [27 EVs]
Washburn/Sanders- 2% (2,539,001) [0 EVs]
Others- 1% (Unspecified number of votes) [0 EVs]

Earl beat DeLay in a few states. :P



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 01, 2005, 09:05:01 pm

Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)


Sounds like me with Ohio.  I usually poll about 57-63 there, regardless of who I am running as.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 01, 2005, 09:17:57 pm
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=0;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=0;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=0;11;5&TX=0;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 01, 2005, 09:26:02 pm

Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)


Sounds like me with Ohio.  I usually poll about 57-63 there, regardless of who I am running as.
I always win Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2005, 12:11:47 pm
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=0;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=0;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=0;11;5&TX=0;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.

:o Wow that is quite impressive.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 02, 2005, 01:17:58 pm
(http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/289/wall643od.png)

Wallace vs Nixon

I, of course, was Wallace.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 02, 2005, 06:24:15 pm
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=0;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=0;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=0;11;5&TX=0;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.

:o Wow that is quite impressive.

I ran one negative ad against Hillary attacking her on abortion and got her with one power 3 scandal.  She hit me with two power nine scandals.  I ran a possitive campaign for the rest of the time and won all of the debates and endorsments.

P.S.  This election was the triumph of a very specifically targeted state-by-state strategy.  I measured which issues would win it for me on a state-to-state basis and ran a highly specialized campaign that moved in waves, from one grouping of states to the next.  Very strategy driven.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on November 03, 2005, 07:29:53 am
(http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/289/wall643od.png)

Wallace vs Nixon

I, of course, was Wallace.
Wow, you have a really old version of PF. It was updated in Feb. 2004 to include the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 03, 2005, 02:56:16 pm
Yes, I never actually bought the game. This is the Demo game and I downloaded it when it first came out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on November 04, 2005, 09:33:01 pm
(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5989/twrj1overall4sk.png)

Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Jones (me :))

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5072/twrj1taft3by.png)

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3894/twrj1wilson5hg.png)

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/8749/twrj1roosevelt9sl.png)

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4720/twrj1jones2ru.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on November 06, 2005, 06:44:19 pm
(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9681/ldbb1overall3ab.png)

Bell/Everett (*hughughughug ;D*; me): 36%, 147 EV
Lincoln/Hamlin: 22%, 74 EV
Douglas/Johnson: 22% (~8,000 votes more than Lincoln), 28 EV
Breckinridge/Lane: 19%, 54 EV

Congress elects Breckinridge?!?

Candidate maps:

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1678/ldbb1bell2gy.png)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8942/ldbb1breckenridge8zh.png)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/397/ldbb1douglas2tv.png)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1901/ldbb1lincoln8wq.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on November 10, 2005, 06:32:40 pm
I can't see your pictures, Fezzy- but wow, A three way race AND the libertarian gets 9%?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 11, 2005, 03:01:30 am
(http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/574/brevdoug8vy.png)

Breckenridge vs Douglas

I, of course, was Breckenridge. :) I had Massachusetts tied for almost the entire election the last week I took the lead but I lost it in the end. A week out I was over 27 points behind in California. I broke a scandal on Douglas and moved within 5 points in CA. I still couldn't pull it off and I won in a squeeker.

Breckenridge - 153
Douglas         - 150


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 11, 2005, 04:43:32 am
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1656/1860election2pa.jpg)

Breckenridge started out with a slight edge, but in what was quite possibly the most negative election in the history of the United States, Breckenridge got clobbered by Douglas with a momentum of -331 on the last day.  Douglas ran as many attack ads as he possibly could and filled the pages of the newspapers with scandals on Breckenridge on the last week of the campaign.  The South crumbled like a cookie before Breckenridge's eyes, leaving him with only 4 states worth 22 electoral votes in his column.

Best states - Douglas:

New Jersey:

Douglas: 87.9%
Breckenridge: 12.0%

Michigan:

Douglas: 86.1%
Breckenridge: 13.8%

New York:

Douglas: 85.1%
Breckenridge: 14.8%

Best states - Breckenridge:

South Carolina:

Breckenridge: 58.6%
Douglas: 41.3%

Texas:

Breckenridge: 55.7%
Douglas: 44.2%

Florida:

Breckenridge: 52.3%
Douglas: 47.6%

Closest states:

1. Mississippi (Breckenridge wins, 50.0%-50.0% - 17 votes!)
2. Arkansas (Douglas wins, 50.2%-49.7%)
3. Virginia (Douglas wins, 51.2%-48.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on November 12, 2005, 02:07:55 pm
I beat Bush/Cheney badly as Edwards/McCain.  I won 329 EV's and won the PV by 9%.  I won NC, SC, FL, MS, and TN.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on November 12, 2005, 03:31:42 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;8)
Sanford - 377
Clark - 161


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 19, 2005, 09:32:26 pm
I won as thew Green Party in 2000!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;5&FL=2;25;4&GA=3;13;3&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=3;22;3&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=3;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;13;5&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 402 Electoral Votes; 39% (49,257,492) of the Popular Vote

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 136 Electoral Votes; 31% (39,355,198) of the Popular Vote

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): 0 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,504,869) of the Popular Vote

Donald Trump/Angus King (Ref.): 0 Electoral Votes; 6% (8,2445,842) of the Popular Vote

Prepare for your first Green Party Presidency! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 19, 2005, 09:50:46 pm
I won as thew Green Party in 2000!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=3;3;5&FL=2;25;4&GA=3;13;3&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=3;22;3&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;3&MD=3;10;3&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=3;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=3;13;5&WA=3;11;4&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 402 Electoral Votes; 39% (49,257,492) of the Popular Vote

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 136 Electoral Votes; 31% (39,355,198) of the Popular Vote

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): 0 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,504,869) of the Popular Vote

Donald Trump/Angus King (Ref.): 0 Electoral Votes; 6% (8,2445,842) of the Popular Vote

Prepare for your first Green Party Presidency! :D

Yeah, Ted Turner as President!

We fianlly have a yearly Federal Budget for Civil War reenactment.  :)

And, all Secret Service agents and soldiers gaurding the President would have to dress in Confederate Grey.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 20, 2005, 10:57:43 pm
PART II; The Reelection of President Turner 2004

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;3&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;3&DC=3;3;5&FL=3;25;5&GA=3;13;5&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=3;22;4&IN=3;12;5&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=3;8;5&LA=3;9;4&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;5&MI=3;18;6&MN=3;10;6&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;11;5&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;6&NY=3;33;6&NC=3;14;5&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;6&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;7;6&PA=3;23;6&RI=3;4;6&SC=3;8;5&SD=3;3;6&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;13;6&WA=3;11;6&WV=3;5;5&WI=3;11;6&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 501 Electoral Votes; 53%(66,689,663) of the Popular Vote

Bill Owens/George Pataki (R): 27 Electoral Votes; 23% (29,884,761) of the Popular Vote

Bill Richardson/John Edwards (D):10 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,158,091) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on November 20, 2005, 11:38:15 pm
Hey PB, about that '96 scenario...? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 01:15:31 am
1928 - Smith vs. Hoover:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1928&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;12;3&AZ=1;3;5&AR=1;9;7&CA=1;13;6&CO=1;6;6&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&FL=1;6;5&GA=1;14;6&ID=1;4;6&IL=1;29;6&IN=1;15;7&IA=1;13;7&KS=1;10;6&KY=1;13;7&LA=1;10;9&ME=1;6;6&MD=1;8;7&MA=1;18;7&MI=1;15;6&MN=1;12;6&MS=1;10;9&MO=1;18;5&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;8;7&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;14;6&NM=1;3;6&NY=1;45;7&NC=1;12;7&ND=1;5;6&OH=1;24;7&OK=1;10;7&OR=1;5;7&PA=1;38;7&RI=1;5;6&SC=1;9;9&SD=1;5;6&TN=1;12;7&TX=1;20;6&UT=1;4;7&VT=1;4;7&VA=1;12;7&WA=1;7;6&WV=1;8;7&WI=1;13;6&WY=1;3;6)

Smith - 531 EVs - 68% PV
Hoover - 0 EVs - 23% PV
Thomas - 0 EVs - 6% PV
Foster - 0 EVs - 2% PV

The election started off much in Hoover's favor, with him holding over 400 EVs, but a barrage of ads halfway through the campaign blasted Hoover's lead out of the water, and although Hoover tried to get back at Smith at the end through attack ads in retaliation and through two scandals released in the last week, Smith had a scandal of his own to release as well as another week-long barrage of ads, dooming Hoover to a complete knock-out on Election Day.  Thomas produced a complete surprise showing in Alabama, receiving 24.8% of the vote, surprising everyone.

Best states - Smith:

South Carolina:

Smith: 96.7%
Hoover: 2.2%

Mississippi:

Smith: 91.8%
Hoover: 7.9%

Louisiana:

Smith: 90.2%
Hoover: 8.5%

Best states - Hoover:

Arizona:

Smith: 52.6%
Hoover: 36.8%

Florida:

Smith: 52.7%
Hoover: 35.3%

Kansas:

Smith: 69.6%
Hoover: 28.2%

---

So, uh, I think my new P4E strategy worked. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 02:36:37 am
Having thoroughly clobbered Hoover, I decided to try out one of the hardest elections to win ever...

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;7;6&AR=1;6;7&CA=1;47;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;21;6&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;24;7&IN=1;12;5&IA=1;8;7&KS=1;7;7&KY=1;9;7&LA=1;10;7&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;13;7&MI=1;20;6&MN=1;10;8&MS=2;7;6&MO=1;11;7&MT=1;4;7&NE=1;5;6&NV=1;4;7&NH=1;4;7&NJ=2;16;6&NM=1;5;7&NY=1;36;7&NC=1;13;7&ND=1;3;7&OH=1;23;7&OK=1;8;7&OR=1;7;7&PA=2;25;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;7&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;29;7&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;10;6&WV=1;6;7&WI=1;11;7&WY=1;3;7&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7)

Mondale - 456 EVs - 65% PV
Reagan - 82 EVs - 34% PV

At the beginning of the election, Mondale was ahead in only one single state: his own state of Minnesota.  For the first half of the election, it looked like Mondale would lose in a landslide, but Mondale knew what he was doing.  Near the midway point, Mondale unleashed a quick 2-day blitz of ads - one attack ad on Reagan, one promoting himself - in 25 states, and while it was short, it put a noticeable dent in Reagan's lead, flipping many close states to Mondale.  With two weeks to go, Mondale leaked a huge scandal on Reagan.  With one and a half weeks to go, Mondale leaked another.  With five days to go, Mondale leaked a third.  For the last three days, Mondale broadcast four ads - two attacking Reagan, two promoting himself - again in 25 states, running out of money at just the right time: on election day.

Reagan never had a chance.

An odd thing to note is that, with the exception of Tennessee, Reagan received over 60% of the vote in all of the states that he did manage to win.

Best states - Mondale:

Minnesota:

Mondale: 80.1%
Reagan: 19.8%

New York:

Mondale: 79.8%
Reagan: 20.1%

Rhode Island:

Mondale: 77.7%
Reagan: 22.2%


Best states - Reagan:

Colorado:

Reagan: 69.2%
Mondale: 30.7%

Mississippi:

Reagan: 68.1%
Mondale: 31.8%

South Dakota:

Reagan: 66.6%
Mondale: 33.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 21, 2005, 02:52:21 am
Holy sh**t, biggest landslide since the popular vote became common.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 02:57:46 am
Holy sh**t, biggest landslide since the popular vote became common.

Yes, winning almost every state with over 70% of the vote can do that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 22, 2005, 12:51:31 am
This one is for States. :)  I decided to try my hand as Wallace in 1968.

Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace - 1968

(http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/5176/1968overall5fw.gif)

Wallace - 226 EVs - 33% PV
Nixon - 173 EVs - 35% PV
Humphrey - 140 EVs - 29% PV

Same deal as before.  Since we had three people, I decided to make full state-by-state maps instead of just doing the "best state" thing.

Hubert Humphrey:

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7939/1968humphrey1qj.gif)

Richard Nixon:

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8527/1968nixon7uc.gif)

George Wallace:

(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5323/1968wallace4jg.gif)

Congress elected Humphrey as president.

And no, I don't know why Oregon voted for Wallace.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 02:31:09 pm
can someone run me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 03:12:29 pm
can someone run me?
I'll do it right now, just for you josh. I've got some free time. :)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 03:23:03 pm
can someone run me?
I'll do it right now, just for you josh. I've got some free time. :)


thanks


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 03:28:51 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

George W. Bush/Richard Cheney (R): 274 Electoral Votes; 49% (60,944,184) of the Popular Vote

Josh Craddock/Richard Gephardt (D): 264 Electoral Votes; 44% (55,283,167) of the Popular Vote

Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo (I): 0 Electoral Votes; 4% (5,844,204) of the Popular Vote

Michael Badnarik/Richard Campagna (L): 0 Electoral Votes; 1% (2,241,527) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 03:31:44 pm
how did I lose VT, NH, Ma


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 23, 2005, 09:20:00 pm
Brunsel, can you run me as a republican against John Kerry?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 09:51:41 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Jeff Wallnofer/John Kasich (R): 272 Electoral Votes; 49% (62,001,444) of the Popular Vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 266 Electoral Votes; 49% (61,873,436) of the Popular Vote

Michael Badnarik/Richard Campagna (L): 0 Electoral Votes; 0% (286,242) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 23, 2005, 09:57:23 pm
To bad you can't do me against Lincoln. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 23, 2005, 10:29:03 pm
REESE/MCCAIN v. BUSH!!! ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 24, 2005, 10:17:35 am
To bad you can't do me against Lincoln. :P
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=0;9;6&AK=0;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=0;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=0;3;8&FL=0;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=0;4;5&ID=0;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=1;6;6&KY=0;8;5&LA=0;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=0;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=0;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=0;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=0;15;5&ND=0;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=0;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=0;8;5&SD=0;3;5&TN=0;11;5&TX=0;34;6&UT=0;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=0;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=0;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=0;2;6&NE1=0;1;6&NE2=0;1;6&NE3=0;1;7)

Haha, but I did! ;)

Lincoln-90-47% (R)

Wallnofer-144-52% (D)

I played as Statesrights. Not bad considering I started at 45% and KY. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on November 24, 2005, 02:01:38 pm
1992:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=2;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;3&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)
Clinton - 123
*Bush - 407
Perot - 8

*Person I ran as


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 25, 2005, 01:20:08 am
This game is whacky with the way things turn around. In the version I have if you don't run all the candidates in the multiple candidate scenarios you or your opponent will only get a very small percentage. Did they ever correct that? For example when I play Wallace vs Nixon in some states wallace has like 2% and Nixon like 54%. Did they ever fix it so its become more balanced?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on November 27, 2005, 09:38:56 pm
This game is whacky with the way things turn around. In the version I have if you don't run all the candidates in the multiple candidate scenarios you or your opponent will only get a very small percentage. Did they ever correct that? For example when I play Wallace vs Nixon in some states wallace has like 2% and Nixon like 54%. Did they ever fix it so its become more balanced?
I think that was fixed in the first patch.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 29, 2005, 01:04:26 pm
I think this one deserves a map.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush/Cheney:  EV's 239  PV 49%

Lieberman/Gephardt (me):  EV's 299  PV 50%

There weren't many close states by elections day.

Closest states:

North Carolina:  50.4% - 49.5% Lieberman wins by 29,024 votes

Virginia:  50.9% - 49%

Oklahoma:  51.7% - 48.2%

Missouri:  52.1% - 47.8%

West Virginia: 52.9% - 47%

No other states were within 10%!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on December 08, 2005, 01:19:25 pm
My newest scenario Amerika: 1992

The plot:

America has been conquered by the USSR. This occured in 1983 under the fumbling and weak administration of a fictional U.S. President, Wesley Hoage. Hoage gave U.S. Millitary secrets to the Soviet Leaders in an attempt to, "build a bridge of trust and understanding." Soviets being cheats and liars chose to use this knowledge to shut down all U.S. Missle sights, thus leaving the U.S. at the mercy of the Soviet nuclear arsenal. Faced with certain anhiliation, President Hoage is forced to surrender. By 1983, the Soviet Union has taken over the entire United States through the completely unfair Treaty of Leningrad.

But the Soviets hit a snare, the United Nations (now located in Geneva) begins to pressure them for free elections in 1992. The USSR itself is forced to throw free elections when NATO Commander Oliver North begins the massive mobilization of NATO nuclear weapons. So in 1992, the Soviet Republic of Amerika is going to hold its first free (but probably not fair) P)Presidential election since 1980.

Parties:

New Federalist Party

The reminants of the old Democratic and Republican Parties formed the New Federalist Party in 1989 in an attempt to off set the Amerika Soviet Party. In 1992 they are still a minority in the Amerikan Supreme Soviet, but they feel the Presidency is in their grasp.

At their convention in Salt Lake City, Utah Province, they nominate the fiery and colofrul (yet unpredictable) Delegate Minority Leader Devin Milford of the Colorado Province (reference to Red Dawn in case you didn't guess it). His running mate is former NATO Commander Alexander Haige of Virgina Province.

This party looks to see a second Treaty of Leningrad which grants some self-determination to the former United States.

Soviet Amerika Party

The ruling party since 1983, the Soviet Amerika Party has been plagued by scandals, waste, and inner power struggles since its founding. The unpopuar Soviet Regime is expected to win the general election through voter supression and ballot stuffing.

At their convention in Washingrad (Washington, D.C.) they nominate the man who has held the regime together since 1983, the 72-year old General Heinrich Zwarbott for President, a resident of Washingrad. He is paired with a politcal rival, Amerikan Surpeme Soviet Majority Leader Ralph Nader of Connecticut Province.

This party seeks to keep Soviet Domination over the U.S.A. for all time.

The Minuteman Party

The Minutemen have been fighting against the Soviet Occupation since 1983, and the movement has become extremely strong, especially in the Mountain West and New England. They were responcible for several terrorist attacks, including the 1987 fertilzer bomb attack on a Soviet Army Enlistment Camp in Greenwhich, North Carolina, and the famous stand off at Waco, Texas, in 1991.

At their "convention" (more of a meeting of Minutemen Bigwigs) near Butte, Montana Province, the party nominated their leader, former Green Beret Rod Benjamin of Oklahoma Province and chose Colonel David Hunt of the Calirornian Province as Vice-President.

The Map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;5&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=3;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Devin Milford/Alexander Haige (NF): 208 Electoral Votes; 40% (44,263,089) of the popular vote

Henirch Zwarbott/Ralph Nader (AS): 182 Electoral Votes; 34% (38,412,426) of the popular vote

Rod Benjamin/David Hunt (MM): 148 Electoral Votes; 24% (27,288,079) of the popular vote

The Supreme Amerikan Soviet elected General Zwarbott to the Presidency in a partisan vote, so the entire U.S. was still under the Soviet boot as 1993 enters the world.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 08, 2005, 04:38:57 pm
hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on December 08, 2005, 05:39:09 pm
hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 08, 2005, 06:31:11 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)
Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on December 08, 2005, 08:07:18 pm
Prime Minister Forever- Canada 2006 comes out tonight. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 08, 2005, 09:07:39 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)
Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.

Dad will not let me...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on December 08, 2005, 10:27:40 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)
Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.

Dad will not let me...

You could always get it, umm, by pilfering it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 10, 2005, 11:53:12 am
1860 Election, I played as Bell.

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/6567/1860bell0fu.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Second in PV, third in EV. I won the most states.

Since there was no EV majority, Congress made it's decision. I crossed my fingers...

...

...

...

...

(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9279/1860bell26jf.png) (http://imageshack.us)
They picked Lincoln. :(

Ah well, it was a fun scenario. The ads seem to be way too cheap, though- it only costs $2,300 or so per day to run a nationwide ad.
Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on December 10, 2005, 11:55:39 am

Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.

Isn't there a maximum of 4 ads at a time?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 10, 2005, 12:14:51 pm

Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.

Isn't there a maximum of 4 ads at a time?
Exactly, I didn't understand it either.

Edit: I ran through the scenario again. Here's a screenie of it:

(http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3483/1860bellwtf8mi.png) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on December 20, 2005, 07:08:18 pm
1924 Election played as LaFollette with Dynamism on.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1924&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;12;4&AZ=2;3;3&AR=1;9;3&CA=2;13;4&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;4&FL=2;6;3&GA=1;14;3&ID=3;4;5&IL=2;29;5&IN=2;15;5&IA=3;13;4&KS=2;10;4&KY=2;13;5&LA=1;10;4&ME=2;6;6&MD=2;8;3&MA=2;18;5&MI=2;15;6&MN=3;12;4&MS=1;10;5&MO=2;18;3&MT=3;4;5&NE=1;8;3&NV=3;3;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;14;4&NM=2;3;4&NY=3;45;3&NC=2;12;3&ND=3;5;5&OH=2;24;4&OK=3;10;3&OR=3;5;4&PA=2;38;5&RI=2;5;4&SC=1;9;5&SD=2;5;4&TN=2;12;5&TX=3;20;4&UT=3;4;3&VT=2;4;5&VA=3;12;4&WA=3;7;5&WV=1;8;4&WI=3;13;6&WY=2;3;5)

Coolidge: 39% PV 294 EVs
Davis: 19% PV 80 EVs
LaFollette: 34% 157 EVs
Debs: 6% PV 0 EVs

Best States:

Coolidge: Maine 62.5%
Davis: Mississippi 58.5%
LaFollette: Wisconsin 66.6%
Debs: North Carolina 26.5% (one of the seven states where Debs got over 20% of the vote)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on December 20, 2005, 09:18:15 pm
My feeble attempt to win as Carter:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;8;4&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;4&MI=2;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;41;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=2;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4)

The losses in CA and NY hurt--but they wouldn't have mattered anyway.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on December 20, 2005, 09:34:15 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;6;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;17;4&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;4&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;6&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;6&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;12;4&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;6&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4)

And then I run the AI against Reagan and this is what happens.

Anderson only got 6% nationwide but pulled 24% in Alaska, causing that odd result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 20, 2005, 10:15:26 pm
1912 - Wilson vs. Taft vs. Roosevelt (me) vs. Debs

This election turned out to be one of the nastiest elections ever in American history.  Roosevelt's entire campaign was basically "Wilson sucks", "Taft sucks", and "Debs sucks".  Every single campaign speech made by Roosevelt was, without fail, bashing Wilson.  The only positive thing released about Roosevelt himself was a single, solitary ad that Roosevelt ran for two days at the midpoint of the election in 25 states and then for another two days in all 50 states.

By a few days before the election, the newspapers looked like this:

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1087/1912campaignscandals2uk.jpg)

...and the state of the country looked like this:

(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4126/1912campaignnegative2nb.jpg)

Note the momenta of the candidates.

Roosevelt eventually turned the tide through a 2-day 50-state ad blitz right at the end, resulting in the following results:

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6572/1912electionresultsoverall9hz.png)

Theodore Roosevelt - 484 EVs - 55% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 18 EVs - 17% PV
Eugene Debs - 17 EVs - 14% PV
William Taft - 12 EVs - 12% PV

Individual candidate maps:

Wilson

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3605/1912electionresultswilson5ip.png)

Taft

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/8017/1912electionresultstaft2hf.png)

Roosevelt

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1299/1912electionresultsroosevel9jr.png)

Debs

(http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/8884/1912electionresultsdebs7me.png)

No, I really cannot explain Alabama for the life of me either.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 05:47:04 am
1980 - Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson (me)

Not much to say other than that I WON SOME STATES AS ANDERSON!!!!!!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;4&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;3&MI=2;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;12;4&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;5&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;17;5&NM=2;4;4&NY=2;41;5&NC=1;13;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=3;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;4;4&TN=1;10;3&TX=1;26;4&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;3&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;6;3&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4)

Ronald Reagan - 289 EVs - 44% PV
Jimmy Carter - 230 EVs - 34% PV
John Anderson - 19 EVs - 20% PV

I'm going to see if I can further refine the technique I'm developing for playing as third-party candidates with very little money.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 07:30:02 am
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;6&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=3;4;5&NJ=1;15;3&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;6&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on December 21, 2005, 04:11:52 pm
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;6&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=3;4;5&NJ=1;15;3&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;23;6&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.

If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 08:16:03 pm
If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.

Haha, true enough. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 10:29:14 pm
2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Badnarik (me)

This one's for all of the libertarians out there.

(http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5282/2004badnariknh6il.png)

George W. Bush - 277 EVs - 47% PV
John Kerry - 257 EVs - 41% PV
Michael Badnarik - 4 EVs - 11% PV

I bet you wish this was real. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 22, 2005, 12:18:54 am
I doubt this is even possible in real life....

(picture)

I didn't even have dynamism on. I got two scandals(power 9's on integrity and leadership), and ran ads for one day each when I needed to regain momentum, won all three debates, and finished with a 4 day ad blitz.

Wow, maybe I'll have to reconsider Feingold after all. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 24, 2005, 05:37:46 am
1789 - Washington vs. Adams (me)

(http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/5471/17890wd.png)

George Washington - 3 EVs - 38% PV
John Adams - 66 EVs - 61% PV

Though a renowned hero in the war, when election by popular vote is brought in earlier than expected, America decides to say "up yours" to Washington and elects John Adams as its first president.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on December 26, 2005, 08:33:20 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Mark Warner - 406 EV's - 54%
Rick Santorum - 132 EV's - 46%

I have no idea how this happened.  I was set for a usual clean sweep of the electoral college, and then suddenly Rick Santorum won California.  It scared the jeebers out of me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 29, 2005, 09:33:24 pm
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/323/lolnader1tp.png) (http://imageshack.us)

lol nader


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 29, 2005, 09:35:00 pm
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/323/lolnader1tp.png) (http://imageshack.us)

lol nader

Was that scenario edited at all, by any chance? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 29, 2005, 09:51:07 pm
Nah, I just played as both Bush and Kerry, and changed their issue stances every couple of days ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 29, 2005, 10:57:05 pm
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell

I really, really tried to crack a Southern state as Lincoln.  I really did.  But it just can't be done.  I give up.  This is the best I can do:

(http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/7280/1860results6rg.gif)

Abraham Lincoln - 186 EVs - 52% PV
John Breckinridge - 90 EVs - 15% PV
John Bell - 27 EVs - 11% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 19% PV

The only states I could have maybe picked off had I had more luck would have been Maryland, Missouri, and Virginia.  I didn't get over 30% in any other state, save for South Carolina, in which I got 30.1%, but Breckinridge got 56.3% in that state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 29, 2005, 11:02:38 pm
Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?

(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9681/ldbb1overall3ab.png)

I dunno, I've never tried playing as Lincoln before.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 12:07:48 am
Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?

The main problem with Lincoln is that he starts with, like, close to 0% in most Southern states.  My campaign consistently raises that by around 20-30%, but you just don't have enough time to get it high enough to win any states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 12:57:56 am
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on December 30, 2005, 01:08:33 am
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

I've never beat Lincoln in the 1860 scenario. During the campaign things looked hopeful but it always pans out with Lincoln winning out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 01:22:54 am
HAHAHAHA I DID IT

I DID IT

1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1296/1860results27an.gif)

Abraham Lincoln - 190 EVs - 57% PV
John Bell - 42 EVs - 9% PV
Stephen Douglas - 36 EVs - 20% PV
John Breckinridge - 35 EVs - 12% PV

And now, having accomplished that, I will now attempt to win as Breckinridge, just for StatesRights. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 02:11:01 am
i think i did it

1860 - Lincoln vs. Breckenridge (me) vs. Douglas vs. Bell

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7451/1860results31xw.gif)

John Breckenridge - 298 EVs - 48% PV
Abraham Lincoln - 5 EVs - 25% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 16% PV
John Bell - 0 EVs - 9% PV

I couldn't quite breach the Republican fortress of Vermont.

If you want to try this yourself, here's what my strategy was:

1. Immediately begin researching a scandal on anyone.

2. Use all of your remaining energy to get endorsed by every organization that will give you a momentum boost.

3. Make constant ads that take three days to complete following this pattern:

   a. Leadership - Breckenridge
   b. Experience - Breckenridge
   c. Leadership - Attacking Bell
   d. Leadership - Breckenridge
   e. Leadership - Attacking Lincoln
   f. Experience - Breckenridge
   g. Leadership - Attacking Douglas
   h. Repeat d-g until the end of the campaign.  If Bell starts to get uppity, insert a Bell attack ad and then continue.

The moment an ad is ready, run it for the full seven days in every state.

4. The moment a scandal becomes available, leak it and spin it for all it's worth.  If someone else leaks a scandal on someone who isn't you, spin that one for all it's worth.  Do everything in your power to get a strong scandal on someone else at the top of headlines.  Make absolutely sure you are not the first person to get hit by a scandal.  If you are, you're probably screwed, because the other three will inevitably spin it up and put you into a freefall.  If you can get a large scandal on top of the headlines, the chances of you being hurt by a scandal go way down, as you can usually then spin it down unhindered (the people nearly always spin the biggest scandal, I've noticed).

5. Pray.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 30, 2005, 12:30:47 pm
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 09:43:57 pm
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, that's pretty hard, in that case.  I was ahead in a few northern states with a week and a bit to go, but that damn Lincoln shot me down at the last minute.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 02, 2006, 05:44:36 am
2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Badnarik

Winning states as Nader in 2004 is a heck of a lot harder than it is in 2000.  I finally succeeded!

(http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/7417/2004naderresults5tb.gif)

George W. Bush - 321 EVs - 43% PV
John Kerry - 203 EVs - 37% PV
Ralph Nader - 14 EVs - 17% PV
Michael Badnarik - 0 EVs - 2% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 02, 2006, 06:15:05 am
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Browne

I decided to concentrate all of my efforts onto heavily conservative Bush states in an effort to create a truly ridiculous map.

The effort succeeded more than I thought it would.

(http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/9122/2000naderresults3pi.gif)

Al Gore - 282 EVs - 42% PV
George W. Bush - 230 EVs - 32% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 22% PV
Harry Browne - 0 EVs - 2% PV

Yes, that is a Gore victory in Alaska, Nader victories in Utah and Wyoming, and >50% Nader in Mississippi...

And no, I don't know what the heck happened with Massachusetts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on January 08, 2006, 05:47:01 pm
So close, and yet so far...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3927/twrd2overall5zm.png)
Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

Party-by-party

Socialist
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4940/twrd2soc0mw.png)

Democratic
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9169/twrd2dem5pi.png)

Republican
(http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/7759/twrd2rep1zt.png)

Progressive
(http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/2112/twrd2prog0hl.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on January 08, 2006, 06:04:19 pm
Nice game, Joe I-OH avatar user, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on January 08, 2006, 06:05:52 pm
Nice game, Joe, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?

Stop blindly assuming a person is someone because of their avatar ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 08, 2006, 06:31:35 pm
So close, and yet so far...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3927/twrd2overall5zm.png)
Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on January 08, 2006, 06:38:35 pm
Arkansas probably would have been much higher for Debs.  It had a very strong progressive labor wing of the Democratic Party that, if Debs had been that popular nation-wide, could have gone for him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 09, 2006, 04:01:39 pm
So close, and yet so far...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3927/twrd2overall5zm.png)
Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on January 09, 2006, 05:20:36 pm
So close, and yet so far...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3927/twrd2overall5zm.png)
Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(

Yeah then America would have been ed.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 09, 2006, 05:24:46 pm
So close, and yet so far...

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3927/twrd2overall5zm.png)
Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(

Yeah then America would have been ed.
I would assume that the word that was censored was "sav"ed. ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on January 15, 2006, 02:10:37 pm
Another colourful map... I call it "1980: Attack of the third-party candidates". :D  I played with both Anderson and Clark and tried to weaken the two major candidates as hard as I could in sort of a coordinated attack. New Jersey was won by Clark, all other "green states" went to Anderson.



(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;3&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;3&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;3&IN=2;13;3&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;3&KY=1;9;3&LA=1;10;3&MD=1;10;4&MA=2;14;3&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;12;3&MT=2;4;3&NE=2;5;3&NV=2;3;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;17;3&NM=3;4;3&NY=1;41;4&NC=2;13;4&ND=3;3;3&OH=1;25;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=2;6;4&PA=1;27;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=1;8;3&SD=3;4;3&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;4&UT=3;4;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=1;12;3&WA=1;9;3&WV=1;6;4&WI=1;11;3&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3)


Carter
PV: 32%
EV: 253

Reagan
PV: 32%
EV: 234

Anderson
PV: 19%
EV: 34

Clark
PV: 15%
EV: 17

Congress elected Carter President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 17, 2006, 04:01:55 pm
'92:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=2;2;3&ME1=2;1;3&ME2=2;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)
Clinton - 291 - 44%
Bush - 237 - 40%
Perot (Me) - 10 - 15%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on January 17, 2006, 09:36:32 pm
A new (and much more successful) attempt at 1992.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;54;3&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;7&MD=1;10;5&MA=3;12;4&MI=2;18;5&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;7&MO=3;11;6&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;6&NJ=2;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=2;33;4&NC=2;14;7&ND=3;3;5&OH=2;21;4&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;7;5&PA=2;23;4&RI=3;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;13;5&WA=3;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;11;5&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)

Bush: 304 EV, 39%
Perot: 176 EV, 32%
Clinton: 58 EV, 27%

A power-20 scandal doesn't help Clinton.  [And, in conjunction with Perot's usual Southern Malaise, explains the ridiculous results down South].

California (and, as a result, the election), is decided by a knife's edge--9,405-vote difference between me and Bush.  Any little bit of activity on my part would have taken the state and thrown it to the house.

California, Ohio (within 2.5%) and Pennsylvania (within 4%) would give me the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 18, 2006, 10:03:18 pm
My semi-successful shot at '92 as Perot

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=3;3;3&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

I was still barely trailing (-1-3%) in all of my states with a week left, and I knew what I had to do: Ad crusade, so I owe my electoral victories to it, but beside that, everything was all me. ^_^

Clinton: 303; 38%; 42,070,324

Bush: 218; 39%; 43,035,689

Perot (me): 17; 21%; 23,493,333

Marrou: 0; 1%; 1,107,244

My best state was Alaska (42.7%) Clinton's was DC (73%) and Bush's was Virginia (51.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 18, 2006, 10:49:59 pm
I decided to try my hand at 1992.

1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot (me)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;5&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;6&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;5&HI=3;4;5&ID=3;4;6&IL=3;22;5&IN=3;12;5&IA=2;7;3&KS=3;6;6&KY=3;8;5&LA=3;9;5&MD=3;10;6&MA=3;12;6&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;5&MS=3;7;4&MO=3;11;6&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;6&NH=1;4;4&NJ=3;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=3;33;6&NC=3;14;6&ND=3;3;6&OH=3;21;6&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;6&PA=3;23;6&RI=3;4;6&SC=3;8;6&SD=3;3;6&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;6&UT=3;5;6&VT=3;3;6&VA=3;13;4&WA=3;11;6&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;6&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=3;2;6&NE1=3;1;6&NE2=3;1;6&NE3=3;1;6)

H. Ross Perot - 493 EVs - 54% PV
George H. W. Bush - 33 EVs - 23% PV
Bill Clinton - 12 EVs - 22% PV

This game isn't even a challenge anymore when playing as candidates who had any sort of chance in real life.

I got 43.4% of the vote in DC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 18, 2006, 11:53:33 pm
1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

Just for fun, I decided to play as Reagan.  It wasn't pretty.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;7;8&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;47;6&CO=2;8;7&CT=2;8;7&DE=2;3;7&DC=2;3;6&FL=2;21;8&GA=2;12;7&HI=2;4;6&ID=2;4;8&IL=2;24;6&IN=2;12;8&IA=2;8;7&KS=2;7;7&KY=2;9;7&LA=2;10;8&MD=2;10;7&MA=2;13;7&MI=2;20;8&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;7;8&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;4;8&NE=2;5;8&NV=2;4;8&NH=2;4;8&NJ=2;16;7&NM=2;5;8&NY=2;36;7&NC=2;13;8&ND=2;3;8&OH=2;23;7&OK=2;8;7&OR=2;7;7&PA=2;25;7&RI=2;4;6&SC=2;8;8&SD=2;3;8&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;29;8&UT=2;5;8&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;8&WA=2;10;7&WV=2;6;7&WI=2;11;8&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;7&ME1=2;1;7&ME2=2;1;7)

Ronald Reagan - 538 EVs - 75% PV
Walter Mondale - 0 EVs - 24% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on January 19, 2006, 01:28:12 am
Gabu,

Can you win as Wallace in '68?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 19, 2006, 02:11:39 am
Gabu,

Can you win as Wallace in '68?

I tried once and got around 220 electoral votes.  I can certainly try again, if you'd like me to, however. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 19, 2006, 02:54:07 am
Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;4&AR=3;6;6&CA=1;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;14;3&GA=3;12;6&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;5&IN=3;13;6&IA=3;9;5&KS=2;7;4&KY=3;9;7&LA=3;10;8&ME=3;4;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;14;5&MI=3;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;7&MO=3;12;5&MT=3;4;6&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;5&NH=3;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=3;4;5&NY=1;43;4&NC=3;13;6&ND=3;4;6&OH=3;26;6&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;6;4&PA=1;29;3&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;7&SD=3;4;6&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;25;6&UT=2;4;4&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;12;4&WA=3;9;5&WV=3;7;6&WI=2;12;4&WY=3;3;6)

George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 19, 2006, 06:20:20 pm
Ultimate 2008:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on January 19, 2006, 06:48:51 pm
How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 19, 2006, 07:02:55 pm
My try as Faubus in 1952
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1952&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=1;11;6&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;27;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;10;6&KS=1;8;6&KY=1;10;4&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;6&MD=1;9;5&MA=2;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=1;8;6&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;7&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;6)
Stevenson: 271; 48%; 38,148,496
Eisenhower: 260; 45%; 35,901,062
Faubus (me): 0; 5%; 4,127,884
Decker: 0; 0%; 736,739

While I wasnt able to win a state, I did have enough effect to flip a Stevenson victory. (amazing, isnt it?)

My best state: Pennsylvania: 8.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on January 19, 2006, 10:26:57 pm
can someone play me in a past election.. maybe in 1992 as bush....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on January 20, 2006, 01:10:32 am
Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;5;4&AR=3;6;6&CA=1;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;14;3&GA=3;12;6&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;5&IN=3;13;6&IA=3;9;5&KS=2;7;4&KY=3;9;7&LA=3;10;8&ME=3;4;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;14;5&MI=3;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;7&MO=3;12;5&MT=3;4;6&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;5&NH=3;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=3;4;5&NY=1;43;4&NC=3;13;6&ND=3;4;6&OH=3;26;6&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;6;4&PA=1;29;3&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;7&SD=3;4;6&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;25;6&UT=2;4;4&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;12;4&WA=3;9;5&WV=3;7;6&WI=2;12;4&WY=3;3;6)

George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. :)

What happened in Florida?

Ultimate 2008:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


What in the world is up with Alabama?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 20, 2006, 03:31:08 am
How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!

This is my strategy, if you want to try reproducing it:

1. Start researching a leadership scandal for your biggest opponent.  If you succeed, then either start researching one for your next biggest opponent if you have more than one or start researching an integrity scandal for your opponent if not.  Continue researching as many as you can get.  In the second to last week, release the weaker scandal, if you have more than one.  In the last week, release the biggest scandal.  If you somehow manage to get three, release the third with a week and a half to go.

2. Start making ads immediately and aim to have four by about three and a half weeks remaining.  If you have one opponent, make a leadership and experience one both for yourself and attacking your opponent.  If you have two, make the same for yourself, but make two leadership ones, one attacking each of your opponents.  If you have three, make a leadership one for you and leadership ones attacking all three of your opponents.  Once you're at about three and a half weeks to go, run all four ads in twenty-five states, beginning with the first state in which the difference is less than +10 and going on down the list until you've reached twenty-five.  Run the ads until you've used half of your money (keep more than half if running it for one extra day will take it to less than half).  Halt the ads.  Then, in the last week, set the ads to twenty-five states again according to the same criteria and calculate how many days you can run them for without running out of money.  Run it when you have that many days plus one remaining.  Then, with one day to go, run the ads in all fifty states.  If you're not at least fifteen million dollars in debt the next day, you didn't do the ad stuff right (in 2004, that is - augment this for the year you're in).

3. Do absolutely nothing with your CPs for the first few days until you've gotten endorsements from every single organization that gives you a momentum boost.

4. Spin with a 100% success rate (or the closest you can get) absolutely any negative news story on your opponent power 3 or higher.

5. If you have at least 3 CPs free on any given turn, use them to attack the opponent with the highest momentum on whatever is the hottest topic of the day.  Don't bother making any positive speeches.  Negative speeches have at least twice as much likelihood of making the news.

The basic idea is to start off with a bang to get yourself some early momentum, then blast the place with an ad blitz for a short while, which will handily solidify all of the close states leaning towards you and slice off all of the close states leaning away from you.  Then in the last week, the same thing occurs, and then the 50-state ad blitz gets you huge momentum nationwide, which can often produce a surprisingly strong result.

What happened in Florida?

Dunno.  Both candidates performed better there than anywhere else in the South.

I could also ask why the heck Massachusetts decided to vote for Wallace. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2006, 03:27:07 pm
Quote
Ultimate 2008:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


What in the world is up with Alabama?

I don't know what happened.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2006, 07:37:46 pm
2004:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=3;8;4&AR=3;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=3;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=3;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=3;10;5&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=3;3;5&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;5&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;6&NC=3;14;5&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;5&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;5&SC=3;8;5&SD=3;3;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;32;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=3;3;6&VA=3;13;4&WA=3;11;5&WV=3;5;5&WI=3;11;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;6)
Johnson (GOP) - 129 - 30%
Williams (DEM) - 3 - 21%
Smith (ME IND) - 406 - 47%

Ok so I made Johnson a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all right) right-winger.
Williams a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all left) left-winger.
Smith a wonderful (all 5s) extreme (all centrist) centrist.

I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

I hope people understand what I wrote whenever I was talking about all right and left.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 21, 2006, 10:53:55 pm
I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

Glad to hear I have my first satisfied customer. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 21, 2006, 11:08:27 pm
1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9798/1960kennedy8ls.gif)

John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 21, 2006, 11:12:41 pm
1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9798/1960kennedy8ls.gif)

John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV

What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on January 21, 2006, 11:52:34 pm
I was inspired. Unfortunately, this election was rather uninspiring.

Sam Brownback/Rick Santorum
Me - John Lynch/Russ Feingold
Michael Badnarik/Barry Hess
Pat LaMarche/Matt Gonzalez

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/ABAsite/presforever12.jpg)



Do you like that scenario?....I made it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:33:42 am
I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's. :)

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;10;6&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;7&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:43:05 am
What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.

I don't know. :)  I found it kind of ironic that one of the states pivotal to Kennedy's win in real life voted against him in a gigantic landslide...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on January 22, 2006, 02:47:38 am
I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's. :)

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;10;6&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;6&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;6&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;7&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.

HILLARY SMASH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:57:08 am
HILLARY SMASH

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5640/clintonhulk5nu.jpg)

RAAAAAAAAAAARGH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 23, 2006, 07:53:45 pm
So I ran as Santorum for the PA Senate Seat versus Casey and some third party candidates. Results:

Santorum (Me) - 51%
Casey (Dem) - 41%
Pennachio (Ind) - 4%
Diamond (Lib) - 2%

1912mm:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;12;4&AZ=3;3;4&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;3&CO=1;6;4&CT=2;7;4&DE=2;3;4&FL=1;6;4&GA=1;14;4&ID=2;4;3&IL=3;29;3&IN=2;15;4&IA=2;13;3&KS=2;10;4&KY=3;13;3&LA=2;10;4&ME=2;6;3&MD=2;8;3&MA=1;18;3&MI=2;15;3&MN=3;12;3&MS=1;10;4&MO=2;18;3&MT=3;4;4&NE=2;8;3&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;14;4&NM=3;3;3&NY=2;45;4&NC=1;12;4&ND=2;5;3&OH=1;24;3&OK=2;10;5&OR=2;5;4&PA=2;38;4&RI=1;5;4&SC=1;9;4&SD=2;5;3&TN=1;12;4&TX=1;20;3&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;4;6&VA=1;12;4&WA=2;7;3&WV=3;8;3&WI=2;13;5&WY=1;3;3)

Taft (ME) - 286 - 36%
Wilson - 118 - 24%
Roosevelt - 72 - 21%
Debs - 55 - 18%

Debs is not an option on the EC Calculator so I just gave the state to the next highest player, but he won Massachusetts, Ohio, and Kentucky.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on February 09, 2006, 12:59:42 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on February 09, 2006, 03:24:11 pm
Reagan vs. Clinton vs. Anderson (Me) vs. Clark

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;3&AZ=1;6;3&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;45;4&CO=3;7;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;17;3&GA=1;12;5&HI=3;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;26;3&IN=1;13;4&IA=3;8;4&KS=1;7;3&KY=3;9;3&LA=1;10;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;3&MI=1;21;3&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;3&MO=2;12;3&MT=3;4;3&NE=3;5;3&NV=3;3;4&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;17;3&NM=2;4;3&NY=2;41;3&NC=1;13;5&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;25;5&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;27;4&RI=1;4;3&SC=1;8;3&SD=3;4;4&TN=1;10;4&TX=2;26;4&UT=2;4;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;12;3&WA=2;9;3&WV=1;6;6&WI=2;11;3&WY=3;3;4&ME=2;2;3&ME1=2;1;3&ME2=2;1;3)

Reagan: 28% PV 149 EV
Carter: 35% PV 273 EV
Anderson: 23% PV 116 EV
Clark: 12% PV 0 EV

Best States:

Reagan: Texas 49.3%
Carter: West Virginia 61.4%
Anderson: Ohio 51.7%
Clark: Virginia 32.7%

Worst State:

Reagan: Rhode Island 15.2%
Carter: Colorado 14.0%
Anderson: Mississippi 8.2%
Clark: 0.0% (911)

Oddest State:

New Jersey

Reagan: 22.8%
Carter: 28.4%
Anderson: 28.2%
Clark: 20.4%

Clark had over 30% in three states, Kansas, South Carolina and Virginia and over 20% in 9 states, Colorado, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Missouri, Indiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on February 10, 2006, 08:51:57 pm
Accidentally closed the window before recording anything else, but look how I did as Thurmond >_< Sooooo close and yet so far >_<

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2886/dttw1overall2vb.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 31, 2006, 04:25:50 pm
I wanted to create a super-independent and see how well I could do. To give myself any sort of chance I did this: Gave Mr. John SMith 5s on everything and something like 300 million USD. Then I let Kerry and Bush plunge themselves into the most negative campaign in human history focusing only on tearing each other apart. Both were shocked by severe scandals, the worse being Bush power 20 which dragged on for a long time. Kerry held a brief lead with 300+ EVs after a while, but then lost ground constantly towards the end. On election day:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;3&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=3;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;3&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush: 33.5% and 159 EVs
Kerry: 30.51% and 32 EVs
Smith: 35.99% and 347 EVs

Best states:

Bush:
Utah (47.1%)
Idaho (44.8%)
Wyoming (44.7%)
Alabama (43.5%)
Oklahoma (42.9%)

Kerry:
Massachusetts (40.2%)
Rhode Island (40.1%)
Vermont (38%)
Maryland (36%)
New York (36.4%)

Smith:
Arkansas (38.7%)
Tennessee (38.4%)
Lousiana (38.2%)
Illinois (37.9%)
Ohio (37.6%)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2006, 05:08:16 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;3&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=3;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;3&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on April 02, 2006, 01:56:23 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though
This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 03, 2006, 03:23:40 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;4&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though
This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.

No it's just that in the 2004 scenario the state position on issues, which is used when regionalism is turned on, is way off but if you set it towards more realistic positions, they have the south way too right wing and the Pacific Coast way too left wing, IIRC, then you can get a realistic map. The problems with it are mostly caused by the 80soft guys, and the creators of some of the other scenarios, being rather ignorant of politics.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on April 04, 2006, 12:53:04 am
Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 05, 2006, 05:29:37 pm
Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?

I went into the scenarios folder than clicked on the 2004 folder then opened the regional_centers file within the scenario folder. It then opens a text file that includes each state and its position on each issue ranging from 1, far left, to 5, far right.

As an example Alabama originally had Abortion at 3, which is the moderate stance, and free trade at 4, centre-right pro-free trade stance, both of which I thought were wrong. So I made Abortion a 4, only under special circumsatnces, and made free trade a 2, which is about protecting certain industries or something like that, since I thought that they made more sense. You have to go through all the states and do this manually though. If you want me to I can send over a copy of the file for you. It really does make the South more realistic so you don't have Joe Libertarian winning Arkansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 14, 2006, 02:03:55 pm
1948 as Wallace


Red: Truman
Blue: Dewey
Dark Green: Thurmond
Light Green: Wallace


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;11;9&AZ=1;4;6&AR=1;9;6&CA=2;25;6&CO=2;6;6&CT=2;8;6&DE=1;3;6&FL=2;8;6&GA=1;12;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;28;6&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;10;6&KS=2;8;6&KY=1;11;6&LA=3;10;9&ME=2;5;6&MD=3;8;9&MA=1;16;6&MI=2;19;6&MN=1;11;6&MS=3;9;9&MO=1;15;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=2;16;6&NM=2;4;6&NY=2;47;6&NC=3;14;9&ND=2;4;6&OH=3;25;3&OK=2;10;6&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;35;6&RI=3;4;3&SC=3;8;9&SD=2;4;6&TN=3;12;9&TX=1;23;6&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;11;6&WA=3;8;3&WV=3;8;3&WI=1;12;6&WY=1;3;6)


Dewey
PV: 33%
EV: 263

Truman
PV: 29%
EV: 151

Thurmond
PV: 16%
EV: 72

Wallace
PV: 20%
EV: 45


Congress elected Truman


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 15, 2006, 10:12:19 am
Nader vs. Nolan


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Nader (me)
PV: 51%
EV: 270

Nolan
PV: 48%
EV: 268


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 15, 2006, 01:31:21 pm
1992 as Perot ("The Power of Perot" scenario)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;3&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;8;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=3;4;4&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;3&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=1;4;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=3;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=2;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;5&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)


Perot
PV: 38%
EV: 310

Clinton
PV: 32%
EV: 114

Bush
PV: 27%
EV: 114


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 15, 2006, 03:31:56 pm
Had some time on your hands lately, Old Europe? :)


j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 15, 2006, 07:46:29 pm
j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.

You should post anyway; I like looking at results. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 02:03:53 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;7&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;8;3&GA=1;12;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;28;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;10;5&KS=2;8;5&KY=1;11;4&LA=3;10;6&ME=2;5;5&MD=2;8;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=1;19;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=3;9;9&MO=1;15;4&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;4&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;47;5&NC=1;14;3&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=1;10;5&OR=2;6;5&PA=2;35;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;8&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;12;3&TX=1;23;4&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=3;11;4&WA=1;8;5&WV=2;8;4&WI=2;12;5&WY=1;3;5)

I tweaked the 1948 scenario to closer resemble actual results and played as Thurmond to see how it would play out. The way I played was basically focusing on running an anti-Truman campaign in the South to see how far I could get there. I ran out of money towards the end, partially because I foolishly campaigned in my safe states, trying to drive up the base. I haven't managed to fix the vote numbers yet, they're messed up, but:

Dewey: 43%, 283 EVs
Truman: 40% 199 EVs
Thurmond: 19%, 49 EVs
Wallace: 3%, 0 EVs

Closest states:
Tennessee, Truman over Dewey by 0.7%
Georgia, Truman over Thurmond by 1.7%
Pennsylvania, Dewey over Truman by 1.8%

Most other states weren't really close. I got:

Virginia: 42.6%
Louisiana: 64.6%
Alabama: 79.6%
South Carolina: 85.9%
Mississippi: 93.6%





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 02:07:11 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=3;6;3&CA=3;54;3&CO=3;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=3;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;22;3&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;3&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=3;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;3&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?

Well, that's what happens when you run a focused campaign and have no core constituency. Pushing the Bush+Kerry total below 60% is pretty much impossible, I'm afraid.

Colin, please, please send me that file. I've been noticing the same thing but haven't had the time to fix it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 16, 2006, 02:09:42 pm
1912, I played as Debs

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;12;9&AZ=2;3;5&AR=1;9;9&CA=2;13;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;9&FL=1;6;9&GA=1;14;9&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;29;5&IN=1;15;9&IA=2;13;5&KS=2;10;5&KY=3;13;5&LA=1;10;9&ME=2;6;5&MD=1;8;9&MA=2;18;5&MI=2;15;5&MN=2;12;5&MS=1;10;9&MO=3;18;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=1;8;3&NV=1;3;9&NH=3;4;5&NJ=1;14;9&NM=2;3;5&NY=3;45;5&NC=1;12;9&ND=2;5;5&OH=3;24;5&OK=3;10;5&OR=2;5;5&PA=3;38;5&RI=1;5;9&SC=1;9;9&SD=2;5;5&TN=1;12;9&TX=1;20;9&UT=1;4;3&VT=1;4;3&VA=1;12;9&WA=1;7;9&WV=2;8;5&WI=2;13;5&WY=2;3;5)


Taft (light red) 18% (10,691,133) 16 electoral

Wilson (dark red) 29% (16,708,805) 181 electoral

Roosevelt (blue) 29% (16,794,170) 182 electoral

Debs (Green) 23% (13,285,073) 152 electoral

Congress elected.............................
...........
........
.....
...
.
Woodrow Wilson (suprise suprise :P)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on April 16, 2006, 02:46:56 pm
Kennedy pwnt

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;11;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=2;8;4&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=2;3;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;27;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;10;5&LA=2;10;4&ME=2;5;6&MD=2;9;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=2;11;5&MS=2;8;5&MO=2;13;6&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;45;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;6&OH=2;25;6&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;32;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;6&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;6&WY=2;3;5)

Election of 1960:
Nixon: 509 EV; 56%
Kennedy: 28 EV; 41%
Faubus: 0 EV; 1%

No cheats were used.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 03:21:36 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;8&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=3;8;4&GA=3;12;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;28;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;4&KS=2;8;5&KY=1;11;5&LA=3;10;7&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;8;5&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;19;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=3;9;9&MO=1;15;6&MT=1;4;4&NE=1;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;47;4&NC=3;14;4&ND=1;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=1;10;6&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;35;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;8&SD=2;4;4&TN=3;12;4&TX=1;23;4&UT=1;4;4&VT=2;3;6&VA=3;11;4&WA=1;8;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=1;3;5)

Tweaked the populations of Dixie to make it more realistic and focused my campaign more on Dixie:

Dewey: 44%, 266 EVs
Truman: 44%, 170 EVs
Thurmond: 8%, 95 EVs
Wallace: 2%, 0 EVs

(Dewey won the PV by 270 000 votes)

The decisive state was Iowa, which Dewey won by less than 1500 votes, 47.7% v 47.6%

Thurmond's closest win was North Carolina, by around 8%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 16, 2006, 05:22:44 pm
A rather disappointing game as Anderson (vs. Reagan vs. Carter, 1980).

(http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/7672/rca1overall9wu.png)

Sorry, closed down window before taking down results.  I know I got ~20% PV, and Carter won.

Rep %s:

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7078/rca1rep7oc.png)

Dem %s:

(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8831/rca1dem7rp.png)

Ind %s:

(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9920/rca1ind8xo.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on April 16, 2006, 05:54:38 pm
Best I've done as Anderson is win two states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 17, 2006, 05:57:16 am
Bush/Cheney vs. Kucinich/Dean :D :D :D


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Kucinich
PV: 60%
EV: 515

Bush
PV: 34%
EV: 23


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 17, 2006, 06:35:47 am
Powell/Rice vs. Kucinich/Dean


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;4&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Kucinich
PV: 56%
EV: 498

Powell
PV: 38%
EV: 40


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 17, 2006, 03:26:06 pm
1992: Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;3&CT=3;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=3;22;5&IN=3;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=3;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;5&MS=1;7;4&MO=3;11;5&MT=3;3;6&NV=3;4;6&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=3;3;5&OH=3;21;5&OK=3;8;6&OR=3;7;7&PA=1;23;4&RI=3;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;5&VT=3;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=3;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=3;11;5&WY=3;3;6&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)


Perot (I)
PV: 33%
EV: 265

Brown (D)
PV: 37%
EV: 261

Buchanan (R)
PV: 27%
EV: 12


Congress elected Brown


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 25, 2006, 08:33:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;8&AZ=1;4;4&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;4&CO=1;6;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&FL=1;8;4&GA=1;12;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;28;5&IN=1;13;4&IA=2;10;4&KS=2;8;4&KY=1;11;5&LA=3;10;4&ME=2;5;4&MD=1;8;4&MA=1;16;5&MI=2;19;5&MN=1;11;4&MS=3;9;8&MO=1;15;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;6;5&NV=1;3;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;47;4&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;10;6&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;35;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;7&SD=1;4;5&TN=1;12;3&TX=1;23;6&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;11;3&WA=1;8;4&WV=1;8;5&WI=1;12;4&WY=1;3;5)

Played as Truman this time. Tried to focus on the North, which went pretty well. Dewey kept gaining on me but towards the end I won the debates, got my ads going and picked up steam. I was hit by 3 or 4 scandals but could spin most of them away. I had solid leads in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois going into election day. New York and California were tossups. I dominated most other states so I was pretty confident. Dewey mostly over-performed, winning CA, NY and MI but that still wasn't enough.

Truman: 47% 358 EVs
Dewey: 41% 135 EVs
Thurmond: 8% 38 EVs
Wallace: 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 25, 2006, 09:25:46 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;8&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;9;5&CA=1;25;5&CO=1;6;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&FL=1;8;4&GA=1;12;6&ID=1;4;4&IL=2;28;5&IN=1;13;4&IA=1;10;4&KS=1;8;5&KY=1;11;5&LA=3;10;6&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;8;4&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;19;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=3;9;9&MO=1;15;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;6;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;5&NM=1;4;6&NY=1;47;4&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;10;6&OR=1;6;4&PA=2;35;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;7&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;12;3&TX=1;23;6&UT=1;4;4&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;11;4&WA=1;8;4&WV=1;8;4&WI=2;12;5&WY=1;3;5)

Played as Truman again. This time I increased Truman's stamina and charisma but lowered his overall support by 2%, so as to make it closer to the real-life Truman come-back. I also decreased Thurmond's funding and gave Wallace the equal amount, to make things more fair between the two. The campaign mostly went like before, but a lot better for me. Dewey was hit by a scandal that eventually reached level 12. I was damaged a lot too though by scandals.

Truman: 48%, 388 EVs
Dewey: 35%, 105 EVs
Thurmond: 6%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 8%, 0 EVs

Best states:

Thurmond:
Mississippi: 92.9%
Alabama: 86.2%
South Carolina: 79.2%
Louisiana: 60.3%

Truman:
Oklahoma: 66.3%
Texas: 62.5%
New Mexico: 60.5%
Massachusetts: 60.1%

Dewey:
Vermont: 60.1%
Maine: 58.2%
South Dakota: 57.1%
Wisconsin: 56.2%

Wallace:
California: 20.7%
Montana: 15.1%
New YOrk: 14.4%
Virginia: 14%
Florida: 13.7%

Closest state:
Tennessee:
Truman: 35.5%
Thurmond: 34.8%
Dewey: 18.7%
Wallace: 10.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2006, 12:02:58 am
I played as both Truman and Dewey to make things intereresting. Both candidates ran very negative campaigns. They won one debate each. Truman got his ads out first and held Dewey below 50 EVs, but then ran out of money. Dewey then struck back, conquering most of the nation in turn. Truman then clawed his way back slowly, slowly until this was the election day map:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;7&AZ=1;4;4&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;8;5&GA=1;12;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;28;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;10;6&KS=2;8;4&KY=2;11;5&LA=3;10;4&ME=2;5;4&MD=1;8;6&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;19;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=3;9;7&MO=1;15;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;6;4&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=0;47;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;4&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;10;5&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;35;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=3;8;6&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;12;5&TX=1;23;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;11;6&WA=1;8;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;12;6&WY=2;3;6)

Election night started out well for Dewey with a better than expected result in Indiana and winning both IN and KY.

Next came another strong Dewey result in FLorida followed by Truman's first win, in Georgia. South Carolina went surprisingly strongly for Thurmond, New Hampshire was too close to call. The rest to Dewey. North Carolina was another good pick'up for Dewey, while Ohio was too close to call. Truman fans were happy about the close to 70% result in WV.

CT and DE were two more big Dewey wins, but then came an unexpectedly large Truman win in IL - a big set-back for the Dewey camp. In yet another blow Truman carried Pennsylvania. But there were consolations too. Dewey surprisingly stole Truman's home state Missouri by a whole 5 points. Thurmond broke 80% in Mississippi, again over-performing.

Truman rolled on, picking up Arkansas next.

But the next batch was good news for Dewey. With New York, Colorado and Arizona too close to call, he won Minnesota by a land-slide,  a state thought to lean Truman. He also managed strong showings in the Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas, all thought to be vulnerable.

Otherwise, things went as expected, Dewey did surprisingly well in Nevada, breaking 50% but the rest of the states were dull.

Dewey supporters took a deeo breath of relief after California opted by a clear margin for their candidate, 7.2%. Oregon and Washington were the awaited big Truman wins.

New Hampshire was now called for Truman, a major shock. But only minutes later Ohio is called for Dewey. The two are now neck to neck. Next Arizona is called for Truman. Dewey will need New York to win an electoral majority. When Colorado is called for Dewey it becomes clear that Truman can no longer win the election. But as New York is finally declared as Truman 46.3%, Dewey 44.3% and Wallace 8.7% the election is over.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;7&AZ=1;4;4&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;8;5&GA=1;12;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;28;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=1;10;6&KS=2;8;5&KY=2;11;5&LA=3;10;4&ME=2;5;4&MD=1;8;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;19;5&MN=2;11;5&MS=3;9;8&MO=2;15;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;6;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;47;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=1;10;6&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;35;5&RI=2;4;6&SC=3;8;7&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;12;5&TX=1;23;6&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;11;6&WA=1;8;6&WV=1;8;6&WI=1;12;6&WY=2;3;6)

Truman: 47%, 263 EVs
Dewey: 45%, 230 EVs
Thurmond: 4%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 3%

Congress elects Truman.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2006, 03:41:18 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Played as myself. My leadership of 2 is always a bother, but this time things went smoothly. I couldn't afford polling so I had no idea of what my strategy should be.

Lundgren: 49%, 356 EVs
Bush: 47%, 182 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 26, 2006, 03:33:57 pm
Gustaf can you play me in 1992?(Perot's party)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 29, 2006, 03:25:14 pm
I'm very proud of myself. I ran a PA Governor 2006 scenario as Russ Diamond, according to Rasmussen's new results and got this:


Russ Diamond (I) [Me]-38% (Winner)

Ed Rendell (D)-38%

Lynn Swan (R)-24%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 30, 2006, 09:02:39 am
2000: McCain (me) vs. Gore


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;6&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


McCain
PV: 52%
EV: 344

Gore
PV: 46%
EV: 194


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 30, 2006, 11:02:26 am
An odd-looking map for the "The Wedge - 2008" scenario:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;5&CO=3;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=3;10;5&MA=1;12;3&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=3;4;5&NH=3;4;6&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;6&NY=2;33;3&NC=2;14;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;4&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;7;7&PA=3;23;3&RI=2;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=3;3;7&VA=3;13;6&WA=3;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=3;2;5&NE1=3;1;5&NE2=3;1;5&NE3=3;1;5)


Bob Kerrey / Christine Whitman (Progressive)
PV: 38%
EV: 274

Bill Frist / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 31%
EV: 233

Hillary Clinton / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
PV: 29%
EV: 31


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 30, 2006, 11:31:00 am
Apparently, a three-party system would indeed produce odd maps.

"The Driver - 2012" scenario:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=1;6;3&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;5&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;5&GA=2;13;3&HI=2;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;5&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;3&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=3;11;5&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=3;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;21;5&OK=3;8;5&OR=3;7;5&PA=2;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;7&VA=2;13;3&WA=3;11;6&WV=3;5;5&WI=3;11;5&WY=1;3;3&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)


Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
PV: 39%
EV: 304

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 28%
EV: 170

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
PV: 27%
EV: 64

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
PV: 4%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 30, 2006, 11:59:33 am
"Third-Party Battle"


Red = Nader
Blue = Badnarik
Dark Green = Cobb
Light Green = Peroutka


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;8;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=3;54;9&CO=3;8;9&CT=3;8;9&DE=3;3;9&DC=3;3;9&FL=3;25;9&GA=3;13;9&HI=2;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=3;22;9&IN=2;12;6&IA=2;7;6&KS=3;6;3&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=3;10;9&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;18;6&MN=2;10;6&MS=3;7;9&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;4;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=3;15;9&NM=3;5;3&NY=3;33;9&NC=1;14;6&ND=1;3;6&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;9&RI=3;4;9&SC=3;8;3&SD=3;3;9&TN=1;11;6&TX=3;32;9&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=3;11;9&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;11;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;6)


Cobb (me)
PV: 28%
EV: 275

Nader
PV: 26%
EV: 116

Badnarik
PV: 25%
EV: 94

Peroutka
PV: 20%
EV: 53


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 10:39:18 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=2;9;4&LA=2;10;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=2;14;4&MI=2;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;12;4&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;17;3&NM=2;4;4&NY=2;41;4&NC=2;13;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;6;3&PA=2;27;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=2;4;4&TN=2;10;4&TX=1;26;4&UT=2;4;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=1;12;3&WA=3;9;3&WV=1;6;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

Reagan: 44%, 412 EVs
Carter: 38%, 117 EVs
Anderson: 16%, 9 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 11:40:18 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;4&SD=1;3;4&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Edwards: 55%, 467 EVs
Bush: 40%, 71 EVs
Rest: 2%, 0 EVs

Edwards Best states:

Massachusetts: 70.1%
Vermont: 67.6%
Rhode Island: 67.5%
New York: 64.8%
Pennsylvania: 64.8%

Bush Best states:
Utah: 63.5%
Idaho: 62.7%
Alabama: 60.7%
Nebraska: 57.1%
Alaska: 57.0%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 03:01:15 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;4&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

This is something I had wanted to do for a long time. I basically pitched my 2 generic candidates (centre-right and centre-left respectively on all issues, same chraracteristics, etc) against each other and made their electoral strategies the exact opposite of what it should be. I wanted to see how well you could do on your opponent's home ground if that was all you focused on.

Smith (R): 49%, 281 EVs
Struan (D): 47%, 257 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%

Best Smith states:

New Jersey: 56.7%
Hawaii: 56.6%
Rhode Island: 55.8%
Illinois: 55.6%
Massachusetts: 55.5%

Best Struan States:

DC: 62.0%
Florida: 55.9%
Ohio: 55.8%
Missouri: 55.5%
Colorado: 54.7%

CLosest states:

Nebraska: Smith by 0.6%
Oklahoma: Struan by 1.1%
South Dakota: Struan by 1.3%
Arkansas: Struan by 1.7%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 03, 2006, 03:01:57 pm
I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 05, 2006, 03:55:20 pm
I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.

Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 05, 2006, 05:39:58 pm
Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.

The main idea with people like Anderson is that you can't win, so you might as well not even try.  I never make any speeches or anything like that.  I just fundraise and blast a select group of states with ads.  That's it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 07, 2006, 08:09:24 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;8;4&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=2;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;12;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;17;4&NM=2;4;4&NY=2;41;4&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;4&RI=3;4;3&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;4&TX=2;26;4&UT=2;4;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;12;4&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;6;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 08, 2006, 01:39:45 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;4&IN=2;13;4&IA=1;8;4&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=2;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=2;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;12;5&MT=2;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;17;4&NM=2;4;4&NY=2;41;4&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;4&RI=3;4;3&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;4&TX=2;26;4&UT=2;4;5&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;12;4&WA=2;9;4&WV=1;6;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs

I unfortunately would probably have to see exactly what you're doing to comment further, so I'm not sure what to say other than that it does work for me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on May 08, 2006, 06:28:16 pm
Gabu, what happened to our tournament?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 08, 2006, 07:17:10 pm
Gabu, what happened to our tournament?

Yes, yes, I haven't forgotten about it... I suppose I kind of let it slip due to being busy, and given how long ago the last installment was put forth, I suppose I figured people weren't interested anymore.

I'll get to it when I get access to the internet at home, which should probably be tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 11, 2006, 07:32:22 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;4&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;6&UT=2;5;6&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)                                                                                                                          Adjusted the 2000 scenario (Gore v Republicans) to more real-life and played as both. THere was just no way GOre could resist Bush's ads though. He also got hit by a scandal and recovered just a little by election day.                                                                                                                      Bush: 50%, 450 EVs                                                                                                                   Gore: 39%, 88 EVs, Nader: 3%, Buchanan: 6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 19, 2006, 03:53:58 pm
I chrushed Kennedy as Nixon:

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;11;4&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;6&AR=2;8;5&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;6&GA=1;12;4&HI=2;3;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;27;6&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;10;7&KS=2;8;7&KY=2;10;7&LA=2;10;5&ME=2;5;7&MD=2;9;5&MA=2;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=2;11;7&MS=2;8;4&MO=2;13;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;6;8&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;7&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;25;7&OK=2;8;7&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;32;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;24;6&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;7&VA=2;12;7&WA=2;9;7&WV=2;8;7&WI=2;12;7&WY=2;3;7)

Nixon: 62%, 514 EVs
Kennedy: 35%, 23 EVs
Faubus: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on May 19, 2006, 06:05:13 pm
can someone play me as someone?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 20, 2006, 01:45:49 am
I chrushed Kennedy as Nixon:

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;11;4&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;6&AR=2;8;5&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;6&GA=1;12;4&HI=2;3;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;27;6&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;10;7&KS=2;8;7&KY=2;10;7&LA=2;10;5&ME=2;5;7&MD=2;9;5&MA=2;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=2;11;7&MS=2;8;4&MO=2;13;6&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;6;8&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;7&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;7&OH=2;25;7&OK=2;8;7&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;32;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;24;6&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;7&VA=2;12;7&WA=2;9;7&WV=2;8;7&WI=2;12;7&WY=2;3;7)

Nixon: 62%, 514 EVs
Kennedy: 35%, 23 EVs
Faubus: 1%

Why Georgia, why?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 20, 2006, 05:14:28 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Me: 501 EVs, 58%
Bush: 37 EVs, 38%
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 22, 2006, 05:22:51 pm
can someone play me as someone?

We've done this about 20 times. Look back through this thread. It's been done before. If you are so enthralled about running yourself as a candidate I suggest that you buy the game and edit yourself in as a candidate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 23, 2006, 09:41:56 am
Now that's an odd-looking Kerry vs. Bush map...


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=1;15;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Kerry
PV: 50%
EV: 282

Bush
PV: 43%
EV: 256


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 27, 2006, 09:01:54 am
Another Bush vs. Kerry map:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;7&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Kerry
PV: 52%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 39%
EV: 141


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 27, 2006, 09:45:52 am
Edwards/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;4&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Edwards
PV: 50%
EV: 320

Bush
PV: 45%
EV: 218


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 27, 2006, 10:18:40 am
Well, it's getting a bit unrealistic now (I mean, more than usual). *lol*


Dean/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;4&TN=1;11;6&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;6&WA=2;11;4&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Dean
PV: 54%
EV: 405

Bush
PV: 39%
EV: 133


I'll tell you when I get tired of beating Bush. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 28, 2006, 08:49:50 am
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;4&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=1;4;4&IL=2;21;4&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;31;4&NC=2;15;4&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 28, 2006, 10:55:36 am
Clark/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Clark
PV: 49%
EV: 329

Bush
PV: 44%
EV: 209


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on May 28, 2006, 08:11:51 pm
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;4&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=1;4;4&IL=2;21;4&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;31;4&NC=2;15;4&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0

That is the weirdest map I've ever seen.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 28, 2006, 08:55:43 pm
I just killed the Reagan Revolution in te 1984 scenario.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1984&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;7;6&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;47;5&CO=1;8;6&CT=1;8;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;21;6&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=1;4;7&IL=1;24;5&IN=1;12;6&IA=1;8;5&KS=1;7;6&KY=1;9;6&LA=1;10;6&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;13;5&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;5;7&NV=1;4;6&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;36;5&NC=1;13;6&ND=1;3;6&OH=1;23;5&OK=1;8;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;25;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;29;6&UT=1;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;6&WA=1;10;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=1;3;7&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;6)

Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (me) - 64% - 519 EVs
Ronald Reagan/George Bush - 33% - 19 EVs
Lyndon LaRoache/Billy Davis - 0%
Bergland - 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on May 29, 2006, 08:23:46 am
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=1;3;4&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;4&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=1;4;4&IL=2;21;4&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=2;31;4&NC=2;15;4&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)


Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0

That is the weirdest map I've ever seen.

Yeah, true.

But check out the description of the "Purple Reign" scenario:
"Starting with the 2006 midterms, the country reversed the partisan trends of the previous two elections. There are no longer any "Red States" or "Blue States". The entire country has turned Purple. As such all 50 states are in play for both parties. Also, there is NO Regionalism in this scenario."


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 29, 2006, 09:32:30 am
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on May 29, 2006, 02:48:04 pm
(No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon).

Joooooiiinnnnnn uuuuuusssss.......
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40112000/gif/_40112539_mind_control_203152.gif)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2006, 07:02:37 am
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



What scenario? Most scenarios (including the ones given in the original game) are heavily biased in favour of Democrats. I remember the Gore v Bush that used to exist was heavily biased in favour of Gore, for instance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 30, 2006, 11:19:39 am
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



What scenario? Most scenarios (including the ones given in the original game) are heavily biased in favour of Democrats. I remember the Gore v Bush that used to exist was heavily biased in favour of Gore, for instance.
It's the "Bush vs. Gore" scenario. I don't see how it's slanted...considering that I started the game (as Gore) with 90 something electorals and 4 points back in the polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 31, 2006, 06:43:20 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=3;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=3;54;5&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on June 01, 2006, 07:41:23 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=3;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=3;54;5&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes

Let me guess...dynamism?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 01, 2006, 12:45:41 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=3;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=3;54;5&CO=3;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=3;7;4&KS=3;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=2;10;4&MA=3;12;4&MI=3;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=3;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=3;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;5&ME=3;2;6&ME1=3;1;6&ME2=3;1;6&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes

Let me guess...dynamism?

Gotta love dynamism. Problem is you never get anything that looks at all realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 01, 2006, 04:21:01 pm
Actually no dynanism...just the ad cheat where when it gets to 1 day left you run like 134 ads and it drains your money but the game ends before it can penalize you.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on June 02, 2006, 09:11:50 am
Another Edwards/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney map:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Edwards
PV: 48%
EV: 275

Bush
PV: 46%
EV: 263


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Know Your Rights! on June 03, 2006, 11:22:02 pm
Giuliani/Allen
Warner/Bayh
Thompson/Phillies
Lamarche/Gonzalez

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/ABAsite/presforever14.jpg)

I used as little ad cheat as possible, but I had a ton of states that were close so I went about a million over budget. I was within 3% in Virginia, Tennessee and Georgia. It was probably one of my best games ever IMO.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 04, 2006, 01:04:17 am
Giuliani/Allen
Warner/Bayh
Thompson/Phillies
Lamarche/Gonzalez

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/ABAsite/presforever14.jpg)

I used as little ad cheat as possible, but I had a ton of states that were close so I went about a million over budget. I was within 3% in Virginia, Tennessee and Georgia. It was probably one of my best games ever IMO.

I thought I might avenge Rudy, haha. I finished with 34 million left in the coffers and didn't use Dynanism.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Rudy Giuliani - 62% - 515 EVs
Mark Warner - 35% - 23 EVs
Cobb - 2%

It's actually funny, Cobb did better in Utah than Warner did.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 04, 2006, 03:15:41 pm
Negative ad campaign, 4 crusaders, an assload of foot soldiers, and 3 high level scandals on my opponent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on June 04, 2006, 04:32:14 pm
Negative ad campaign, 4 crusaders, an assload of foot soldiers, and 3 high level scandals on my opponent.
You play with foot soldiers? IMO they're just a waste of CP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on June 05, 2006, 02:16:58 pm
I watched this one happen, not doing anything, as Stern. This was the closest and most entertaining election Ive dealt with. It came down to Delaware, which was tied on election day...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)


Gore/Rendell: 50% 270 electoral

Romney/Frist: 49% 268 electoral

Stern/Krawchuck: 1% 0 electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on June 05, 2006, 09:02:03 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;3&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=3;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=3;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;4;5&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=3;33;3&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=3;21;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;7;4&PA=3;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=3;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Top Dog 2008 scenario:

Sam Brownback/Pat Robertson - 253 EVs (40%)
Russ Feingold/Barrack Obama - 145 EVs (32%)
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche - 0 EVs (1%)
Donald Trump/Jesse Ventura - 140 EVs (25%)

And Congress selected... Donald Trump!

I ran as Cobb and did not intervene.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 06, 2006, 02:43:35 pm
I watched this one happen, not doing anything, as Stern. This was the closest and most entertaining election Ive dealt with. It came down to Delaware, which was tied on election day...

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)


Gore/Rendell: 50% 270 electoral

Romney/Frist: 49% 268 electoral

Stern/Krawchuck: 1% 0 electoral

How in hell did a Democrat win Nebraska?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on June 08, 2006, 09:18:30 am
Immigration (2008) - (I just downloaded it off of 80soft.com)
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;3&AZ=1;8;4&AR=1;6;3&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=2;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=3;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;4&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=3;7;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=3;3;4&OH=1;21;6&OK=3;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;32;5&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)
Allen/Frist - 117
Bayh/Warner - 305
Gilchrist/Baldwin - 116


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on June 12, 2006, 09:55:16 am
When will the primaries update come out?  There have been no updates for awhile now :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 12, 2006, 01:22:39 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Joe Lieberman/Richard Gephardt (me) - 48% - 306 EVs
John McCain/Chuck Hagel - 47% - 232 EVs
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche - 4% - 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on June 15, 2006, 11:13:22 am
1960:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;4;5&AR=2;8;5&CA=2;32;5&CO=2;6;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;5&FL=2;10;5&GA=2;12;5&HI=2;3;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;27;4&IN=2;13;6&IA=2;10;6&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;10;6&LA=2;10;4&ME=2;5;5&MD=2;9;5&MA=2;16;5&MI=2;20;5&MN=2;11;6&MS=3;8;8&MO=2;13;5&MT=2;4;6&NE=2;6;6&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=2;45;6&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=2;6;6&PA=2;32;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=2;8;6&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;6)
Nixon (me) - 55%; 48+million votes; 514 EV
Kennedy - 40%; 34+ million votes; 15 EV
Byrd - 3%; Almost 3 million votes; 8 EV
Decker - 0%; Around 650,000 million votes; 0 EV

Wow!  It is like a sea of blue with two Christmas colors at the bottom and a red Rhode Island near the top.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on June 18, 2006, 11:09:50 pm
Decker -Around 650,000 million votes

650,000 million and he didnt get a single state? I find that hard to believe

650,000,000,000 seems lie a lot of votes to garner without a state, or even a percent.  :D :D :D:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on July 12, 2006, 01:51:35 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=1;10;4&AR=3;6;3&CA=1;55;4&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;4&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=3;9;4&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;6;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;4&ND=3;3;3&OH=1;20;4&OK=3;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=3;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=3;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;5&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)

Immigration Scenario

Allen/Frist- 90 EV, 34%
Bayh/Warner-328 EV, 43%
Gilchrist/Baldwin- 128 EV, 21%

I played as the Constitution Party.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 13, 2006, 11:07:36 am
1980:

I had Reagan not run and played as Carter and did nothing. I had dynamism on and gave Ed Clark and John Anderson more money. Anderon is blue, Carter is red, and Clark is green.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=3;3;4&AZ=2;6;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=2;45;4&CO=2;7;4&CT=2;8;5&DE=3;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;17;4&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;4&IN=3;13;3&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=2;14;5&MI=3;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;4&MO=3;12;4&MT=2;4;3&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;4&NH=2;4;4&NJ=2;17;4&NM=2;4;4&NY=3;41;4&NC=3;13;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=3;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;6;4&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;4&TN=1;10;4&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=3;12;3&WA=2;9;3&WV=1;6;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

John Anderson (I): 39% 276 EVs 39,399,747
Jimmy Carter (D): 31% 119 EVs 31,411,282
Ed Clark (L): 29% 143 EVs 29,290,630

Best State:

Anderson: Maine 58.8%
Carter: Georgia 56.5%
Clark: Delaware 47.5%

Worst States:

Anderson: Delaware 22.2%
Carter: Idaho 20.1%
Clark: Pennsylvania 11.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on July 14, 2006, 04:21:06 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=1;8;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;54;4&CO=3;8;3&CT=1;8;4&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;25;3&GA=1;13;6&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;3&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;6&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=2;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;4&NC=1;14;6&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=2;23;5&RI=2;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;3&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=3;11;3&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;5&ME1=3;1;5&ME2=3;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

1992, Dynamism on.
Bush 177 EV, 30%
Clinton 285 EV, 42%
Perot 76 EV, 23%
Marrou 0 EV, 3%

I ran as Marrou and did nothing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 16, 2006, 02:36:51 pm
This is from a scenario I made called Secession - 2012 which basically came from a discussion I had with Bono where we tried to imagine what the US would be like with a Quebec style seperatist party.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;8;4&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=3;13;3&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bill Owens (Republican): 37% 109 EVs
Evan Bayh (Democrat): 38% 250 EVs
Mike Easley (Southern National): 20% 179 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Don't get on me about Easley wouldn't want secession either. It's my timeline and I can do what I want. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 16, 2006, 02:49:50 pm
This is from a scenario I made called Secession - 2012 which basically came from a discussion I had with Bono where we tried to imagine what the US would be like with a Quebec style seperatist party.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;8;4&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;3&GA=3;13;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;4&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;3&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=3;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=3;13;3&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Bill Owens (Republican): 37% 109 EVs
Evan Bayh (Democrat): 38% 250 EVs
Mike Easley (Southern National): 20% 179 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Don't get on me about Easley wouldn't want secession either. It's my timeline and I can do what I want. :P

I like it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 16, 2006, 08:43:15 pm
Another game from the above scenario.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=3;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;8;5&AR=3;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;25;4&GA=3;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=3;8;4&LA=3;9;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;18;6&MN=1;10;5&MS=3;7;6&MO=3;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;6&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;6&NC=3;14;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;21;4&OK=3;8;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=3;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=3;11;5&TX=3;32;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;4&WA=1;11;6&WV=3;5;4&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;7)

Rick Santorum (R): 32% 49 EVs
Al Gore (D): 44% 318 EVs
Blanche Lincoln (SN): 21% 171 EVs
Badnarik (L): 1% 0 EVs

Best State:

Dem: New York 65.4%
Rep: Idaho 67.7%
SN: Mississippi 68.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on July 23, 2006, 05:41:28 am
Bush/Cheney vs. Dean/Gephardt (dynamism off, no negative campaigning)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;4&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Dean
PV: 47%
EV: 295

Bush
PV: 46%
EV: 243


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on July 28, 2006, 07:10:24 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;8;6&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;6&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;4&MN=3;10;4&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;4&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)

McCain - 277
Clinton - 251
Trump - 10

Clinton wins Arizona?  McCain wins Maryland?  That's be interesting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on August 22, 2006, 02:07:20 pm
Fun with Debs!

(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4416/twrd3overallzv9.png)

Eugene Debs - 358 EV, 41% PV (23,677,538)
Howard Taft - 131 EV, 27% PV (15,874,066)
Woodrow Wilson - 30 EV, 17% PV (9,835,220)
Theodore Roosevelt - 12 EV, 13% PV (7,877,594)

I did an ad blitz strategy; 3 days of ads in the middle of the campaign, 3 days at the end.  Plus advertising in every state with every ad on the very last day, of course ;) Though FWIW I did win all the states that were in my strategy.  It didn't hurt that two scandals, on Wilson and Roosevelt (that weren't my work), were released shortly after my mid-season ad blitz.  The Roosevelt one was particularly fun, because after I and another candidate spun it it immediately became unspinnable and stood up at 12 power for a while :) (meanwhile the Wilson one became unspinnable after maybe a week and it too stayed quite high)

Candidate by candidate:

(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3480/twrd3debshq9.png)
(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5412/twrd3taftcm4.png)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8887/twrd3wilsonrs0.png)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/74/twrd3rooseveltvf2.png)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on August 24, 2006, 09:22:01 am
Dean/Gephardt are narrowly winning the 2004 election... without having won Ohio or Florida. ;)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Dean
PV: 47%
EV: 275

Bush
PV: 47%
EV: 263


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on August 31, 2006, 02:55:25 pm
2008:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;6&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;6&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;8)
Me (R) - 464 - 56%
Dem - 74 - 43%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 31, 2006, 03:37:52 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bayh/Clinton - 369 (52.3%)

v

Allen/Huckabee - 169 (46.7%)

Won VA by 593 votes
Won OH by 3,204

Lost TN by 323
Lost FL by 864


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on September 05, 2006, 12:44:18 pm
Played as Gore against Bush in '04 scen. Weird, so I felt like posting.

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on September 06, 2006, 06:16:23 pm
(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Played as Dean against Bush in '04 scen. He won with 272 electoral votes, but lost the popular vote by 5%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 06, 2006, 08:05:01 pm
(http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/7092/1860tn1.png) (http://imageshack.us)

I played as Bell.

Lincoln: 43 EV; 32%
Breckinridge: 45 EV; 16%
Douglas: 110 EV; 29%
Bell: 105 EV; 21%

The election was thrown to the House, who elected...

Douglas :( Ah well. Crazy map though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 07, 2006, 07:34:59 pm
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/364/1860ef9.png) (http://imageshack.us)

Another 1860 game, this time I played as Breckinridge.

Lincoln: 122 EV; 33%
Breckinridge: 127 EV; 28%
Douglas: 54 EV; 27%
Bell: 0 EV; 11%

The election was thrown to the Republican-controlled Congress, who elected Lincoln. If I had gotten 1% more of Lincoln's vote share in Pennsylvania, I would have won a majority in the Electoral College.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2006, 02:37:46 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;3&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;3&CO=2;8;4&CT=3;8;3&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=1;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;6&IL=3;22;3&IN=3;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;3&MA=2;12;4&MI=2;18;4&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;3&NY=2;33;3&NC=1;14;3&ND=2;3;5&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;4&RI=2;4;3&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=3;11;3&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;5&WA=3;11;3&WV=1;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=3;2;3&NE1=3;1;3&NE2=3;1;3&NE3=3;1;3)

Another game with me running as a rich independent. Gotta love what a third party can do to an electoral map.

Bush: 36% 242 EVs
Kerry: 33% 121 EVs
Wixted: 26% 175 EVs
Nader: 3% 0 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 60.0%
Kerry: DC 63.2%, New Jersey 46.8%
Wixted: Tennesee 38.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joel the Attention Whore on September 10, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
What a coincidence.  This game is actually quite realistic - realistic enough that I purchased this and spend a few days of class letting students run their campaigns.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2006, 03:23:29 pm
What a coincidence.  This game is actually quite realistic - realistic enough that I purchased this and spend a few days of class letting students run their campaigns.

Where do you teach at Joel?

Are you a college professor? If you are that'll make you are second, the other one is Texasgurl.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 11, 2006, 08:52:35 pm
1980: Playing as Jimmy Carter

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;6&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;4&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;8;5&KS=1;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;14;4&MI=1;21;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;4&NC=2;13;4&ND=1;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;8;6&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;27;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=1;4;6&TN=1;10;4&TX=1;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;4&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;4&WV=1;6;4&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4)

Carter/Mondale - 468 EVs - 48% PV
Reagan/Bush - 70 EVs - 37%
Anderson/Lucey - 0 EVs - 11%
Clark/Forgot - 0 EVs - 2%

It sucks, I had Reagan down to about 20 EVs and then one of those 9 power scandals broke.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 16, 2006, 04:26:19 am
This was one of my most F'kd Up results.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;4&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;4&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;4&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;8&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;4&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;4&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;5)

Bush/Cheney - 303 - 48.8%
Kerry/Edwards - 235 - 48.7%

Closest states were
- TN (R) by 342
- OH (R) by 695
- IA (D) by 876


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 16, 2006, 05:07:55 am
My best result

1960

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;11;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;7&DE=1;3;6&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;4&HI=1;3;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;27;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;10;5&KS=1;8;5&KY=1;10;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;7&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=2;8;3&MO=1;13;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;6;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;4;4&OH=1;25;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;24;6&UT=2;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Kennedy/Johnson - 503  59.5%
Nixon/Lodge - 23 - 36.2%
Byrd - 11 - 4.3% (national - in AL 35%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Julian Assange is a Snowflake on September 24, 2006, 11:28:14 pm
Yay, I won as McGovern!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;6;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;6&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;8&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 25, 2006, 01:23:17 pm
Yay, I won as McGovern!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;6;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;6&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;8&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

There is something I noticed was very odd about this scenario. Why does Washington start so lopsided?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 25, 2006, 05:29:54 pm
Yay, I won as McGovern!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1972&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;6;6&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;17;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;6&IA=1;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=2;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;6&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;17;6&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;6&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;6;5&PA=2;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;8&WV=1;6;5&WI=2;11;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)

There is something I noticed was very odd about this scenario. Why does Washington start so lopsided?

They mixed up the Washington DC and the Washington state results in the electoral trends document.

Also its not that hard to win as McGovern. For some reason he is alot stronger in P4E than in real life, don't really know why. Damn Canadian hippie leftists at 80soft when are you going to learn anything about American politics?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on September 25, 2006, 07:21:16 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1892&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AR=1;4;6&CA=1;4;4&CO=0;0;9&CT=2;6;5&DE=3;3;4&FL=3;3;4&GA=3;10;4&ID=0;0;9&IL=2;11;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;4;6&KS=0;0;9&KY=3;12;4&LA=3;6;4&ME=2;8;6&MD=3;8;5&MA=2;13;7&MI=2;6;6&MN=0;0;9&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;9;4&MT=0;0;9&NE=0;0;9&NV=0;0;9&NH=2;5;6&NJ=2;7;4&NY=2;35;5&NC=3;10;4&ND=0;0;9&OH=2;23;6&OR=0;0;9&PA=2;27;5&RI=2;4;6&SC=2;8;4&SD=0;0;9&TN=3;12;4&TX=1;4;5&VT=2;5;8&VA=3;15;5&WA=0;0;9&WV=0;0;9&WI=2;5;7&WY=0;0;9)

1856.

Blue=Fremont, Red=Buchanan, Green=Fillmore

Pretty damn crazy, especially my win in SC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 25, 2006, 09:43:10 pm
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/596/rnhhgwkcnr4.jpg)

Won by Nixon:

Delaware - 36.2% Nixon, 35.7% Humphrey, 25% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Idaho - 37% Nixon, 32% Humphrey, 27% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Iowa - 33% Nixon, 30% Clarke, 23% Humphrey, 13% Wallace

Won by Humphrey:

Alaska - 41% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 14% Clarke, 6% Wallace
Arizona - 41% Humphrey, 38% Nixon, 21% Clarke, 0% Wallace
California - 48% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 13% Clarke, 0% Wallace
Colorado - 39% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Connecticut - 38% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 30% Nixon, 0% Wallace
District of Columbia - 50% Humphrey, 43% Clarke, 8% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Illinois - 39% Humphrey, 34% Nixon, 26% Clarke, 1% Wallace
New Mexico - 40% Humphrey, 38% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 0% Wallace

Won by Wallace:

Alabama - 49% Wallace, 26% Humphrey, 13% Clarke, 11% Nixon
Arkansas - 41% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 18% Humphrey, 11% Nixon
Florida - 32% Wallace, 27% Humphrey, 22% Clarke, 18% Nixon
Georgia - 38% Wallace, 28% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 8% Humphrey
Indiana - 32% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 19% Nixon
Kentucky - 35% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Nixon, 16% Humphrey
Louisiana - 50% Wallace, 31% Clarke, 13% Humphrey, 6% Nixon
Maryland - 34% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
Michigan - 29.47% Wallace, 29.03% Clarke, 22% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
Mississippi - 41% Wallace, 32% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 11% Humphrey
Montana - 28% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 25% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
North Carolina - 44% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 17% Humphrey, 14% Nixon
South Carolina - 42% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 15% Humphrey
Tennessee - 30.96% Wallace, 30.66% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 16% Humphrey

Won by Clarke:
Hawaii - 28% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 23% Humphrey, 22% Wallace
Kansas - 30.1% Clarke, 29.7% Nixon, 28% Humphrey, 12% Wallace
Maine - 33% Clarke, 31% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
Massachusetts - 41% Clarke, 40% Humphrey, 19% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Minnesota - 40% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Missouri - 31% Clarke, 27% Wallace, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey
Nebraska - 44% Clarke, 29% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 10% Wallace
Nevada - 36% Clarke, 33% Humphrey, 24% Nixon, 7% Wallace
NH - 43% Clarke, 36% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 1% Wallace
NJ - 38% Clarke, 35% Humphrey, 25% Nixon, 2% Wallace
NY - 42% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 21% Nixon
ND - 35% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 19% Wallace, 19% Humphrey
OH - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
OK - 48% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 26% Nixon, 0% Wallace
OR - 37% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
PA - 50% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 2% Wallace
RI - 52% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 16% Nixon, 1% Wallace
SD - 47% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 24% Nixon, 5% Wallace
TX - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
UT - 40% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 17% Wallace
VT - 56% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 0% Wallace
VA - 31% Clarke, 26% Nixon, 23% Wallace, 20% Humphrey
WA - 48% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 6% Wallace
WV - 34% Clarke, 30% Wallace, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
WI - 45% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
WY - 48% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 8% Wallace

Fiscal Conservative + Social Liberal + Anti War + Tons of Money = Victory with 32.6% of the vote!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 26, 2006, 01:14:40 pm
Fiscal Conservative + Social Liberal + Anti War + Tons of Money = Victory with 32.6% of the vote!

I assume by "tons of money" you mean enough to run ads in all 50 states plus  DC without any real penalty. Because that's the only way to have really accomplished this.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on October 22, 2006, 11:23:03 am
The battle of the former four-star generals: Clark vs. Powell


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Wesley Clark / Dick Gephardt
PV: 45%
EV: 279

Colin Powell / Condoleezza Rice
PV: 49%
EV: 259


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on October 28, 2006, 09:51:06 am
1968 as Wallace:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;5&AK=1;3;4&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;5&CA=2;40;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;6&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=3;14;4&GA=3;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;4&IA=2;9;6&KS=2;7;5&KY=3;9;4&LA=3;10;5&ME=2;4;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=1;14;6&MI=3;21;3&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;4&MO=1;12;4&MT=3;4;4&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;17;5&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;43;6&NC=3;13;6&ND=2;4;5&OH=3;26;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=3;6;4&PA=3;29;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=3;8;7&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;6&TX=3;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=3;12;4&WA=2;9;5&WV=3;7;5&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;6)


George Wallace
PV: 26%
EV: 241

Richard Nixon
PV: 35%
EV: 173

Hubert Humphrey
PV: 37%
EV: 125


Congress elected Humphrey president.


The funny thing is that Wallace got the smallest Popular Vote, but the largest Electoral Vote of the three. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on October 30, 2006, 10:00:29 pm
Becuase in real life Wallace came extremely close to winning New Hampshire in  1968.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 30, 2006, 10:02:28 pm
Becuase in real life Wallace came extremely close to winning New Hampshire in  1968.

I've gotten crazier results as Wallace.  If you use ads effectively, your only limit in President Forever is the size of your wallet.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on October 30, 2006, 10:03:40 pm
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 30, 2006, 11:05:49 pm
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on October 30, 2006, 11:10:28 pm
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.


Can't break the game and get foolish results?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 31, 2006, 12:12:19 am
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.

Can't break the game and get foolish results?

Not yet.  My PF strategy of saturating the entire nation with ads doesn't work at all well in PF+F and I haven't find another easy sure-fire strategy to replace it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 31, 2006, 03:10:31 am
Decided to try something completely different:

2006 Pennsylvania - Casey (me) vs. Santorum vs. Pennachio vs. Diamond

(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6881/2006caseyresult2wz2.png)

Casey (D) - 59% PV
Santorum (R) - 35% PV
Pennachio (I) - 4% PV
Diamond (L) - 1% PV


Best regions:

Casey - Northeastern Pennsylvania - 65.7% (beating Pennsylvania by 0.1%)
Santorum - Central Pennsylvania - 55.8%
Pennachio - Philadelphia - 21.4% (Santorum came in third here)
Diamond - Southern Pennsylvania - 4.2%

Worst regions:

Casey - Central Pennsylvania - 39.1%
Santorum - Philadelphia - 11.9% (!)
Pennachio - Northwestern Pennsylvania - 0.0% (96 votes)
Diamond - Northeastern Pennsylvania - 0.0% (86 votes)

Closest region:

Northern Pennsylvania - Casey wins over Santorum by 5.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 11, 2006, 01:00:05 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1912&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;12;4&AZ=3;3;4&AR=1;9;4&CA=3;13;4&CO=3;6;3&CT=2;7;3&DE=1;3;4&FL=1;6;4&GA=1;14;5&ID=1;4;3&IL=3;29;3&IN=1;15;3&IA=3;13;3&KS=3;10;3&KY=3;13;3&LA=1;10;4&ME=2;6;3&MD=3;8;3&MA=2;18;3&MI=3;15;3&MN=3;12;4&MS=1;10;4&MO=3;18;3&MT=3;4;4&NE=3;8;3&NV=3;3;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;14;4&NM=3;3;3&NY=3;45;4&NC=1;12;4&ND=3;5;4&OH=1;24;3&OK=4;10;3&OR=3;5;3&PA=2;38;4&RI=1;5;5&SC=1;9;5&SD=3;5;3&TN=1;12;4&TX=1;20;4&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;4;5&VA=1;12;4&WA=2;7;3&WV=1;8;3&WI=3;13;3&WY=4;3;3)

1912

I was Taft.

Results
William H. Taft-Republican 16,213,865 (28%) 88 Electoral Votes
Woodrow Wilson-Democratic 15,869,180 (27%) 199 Electoral Votes
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt-Progressive 15,604,322 (27%) 231 Electoral Votes
Eugene V. Debs-Socialist (Moron Party) 9,787,175 (17%) 13 Electoral Votes

266 Needed to Win-Congress Chose Wilson

Wilson underperformed big time in the south, and Taft was close to him in most states (within 10 points)


Does anyone know the composition of the house delgations in Jan 1913? And if majority Republican, who do you think would have won?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 11, 2006, 01:16:19 am
Does anyone know the composition of the house delgations in Jan 1913? And if majority Republican, who do you think would have won?

Here's the list of congressmen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/63rd_United_States_Congress

I'm way too lazy to figure out the composition of each house delegation, though. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 11, 2006, 01:20:46 am
Taft, in protest, then ate the electoral college.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 08:56:47 pm
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Douglas vs. Breckenridge vs. Bell

(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5391/1860results4ev7.gif)

Lincoln (R): 226 EVs - 57% PV
Breckenridge (SD): 65 EVs - 13% PV
Bell (L): 12 EVs - 11% PV
Douglas (ND): 0 EVs - 18% PV

Best states:

Lincoln: Vermont - 88.5%
Breckenridge: South Carolina - 54.0%
Bell: Alabama - 38.3%
Douglas: New Jersey - 36.4%

Worst states:

Lincoln: Alabama - 12.2%
Breckenridge: Vermont - 0.0% (8 votes)
Bell: Minnesota - 0.0% (4 votes)
Douglas: Florida - 0.0% (2 votes)

5 closest states:

1. Virginia - Lincoln wins over Bell 30.7% - 29.6%
2. Kentucky - Breckenridge wins over Bell 30.3% - 29.8%
3. North Carolina - Lincoln wins over Breckenridge 34.0% - 32.1%
4. Arkansas - Breckenridge wins over Bell 40.3% - 37.7%
5. Tennessee - Bell wins over Lincoln 32.4% - 28.8%

Election summary:

lol, Virginia


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 12, 2006, 09:37:31 pm
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Douglas vs. Breckenridge vs. Bell

(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5391/1860results4ev7.gif)

Lincoln (R): 226 EVs - 57% PV
Breckenridge (SD): 65 EVs - 13% PV
Bell (L): 12 EVs - 11% PV
Douglas (ND): 0 EVs - 18% PV

Best states:

Lincoln: Vermont - 88.5%
Breckenridge: South Carolina - 54.0%
Bell: Alabama - 38.3%
Douglas: New Jersey - 36.4%

Worst states:

Lincoln: Alabama - 12.2%
Breckenridge: Vermont - 0.0% (8 votes)
Bell: Minnesota - 0.0% (4 votes)
Douglas: Florida - 0.0% (2 votes)

5 closest states:

1. Virginia - Lincoln wins over Bell 30.7% - 29.6%
2. Kentucky - Breckenridge wins over Bell 30.3% - 29.8%
3. North Carolina - Lincoln wins over Breckenridge 34.0% - 32.1%
4. Arkansas - Breckenridge wins over Bell 40.3% - 37.7%
5. Tennessee - Bell wins over Lincoln 32.4% - 28.8%

Election summary:

lol, Virginia

That game should have never let you on the ballot in half of those rebel states


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 09:52:04 pm
That game should have never let you on the ballot in half of those rebel states

I staged a monster write-in campaign despite not being on the ballot. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 09:56:56 pm
Okay, one more ridiculous result for comedy.  I decided to try a completely different scenario.  I found it to be surprisingly well-made, at least aesthetically speaking.

2006 World Government - George W. Bush vs. Hugo Chávez vs. Kofi Annan (me) vs. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6776/2006annanresultvw3.gif)

Annan (Lib): 793 EVs - 41% PV
Chávez (Soc. Dem.): 366 EVs - 26% PV
Bush (Cons.): 333 EVs - 25% PV
Ahmadinejad (Isl.): 13 EVs - 6% PV

Best countries/regions:

Annan: Philippines- 73.4%
Chávez: Brazil - 45.8%
Bush: China - 40.5% (wtf? Chávez led huge here at the start)
Ahmadinejad: Arabia - 64.0%

Worst countries/regions:

Annan: Arabia - 20.2%
Chávez: Iran - 3.7%
Bush: Arabia - 4.7%
Ahmadinejad: Mongolia - 0.0% (33 votes)

5 countries/regions:

India - Chávez wins over Annan 35.8% - 35.3%
Pakistan - Annan wins over Ahmadinejad 36.7% - 32.8%
Central Asia - Annan wins over Ahmadinejad 33.5% - 28.2%
Australia - Chávez wins over Annan 38.0% - 30.6%
Congo - Annan wins over Chávez 43.0% - 34.5%

I believe that none of the other countries or regions were within 10%.

lol, world government

Afterthought: You know, I should really try to get an Islamist landslide...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 01:34:03 am
2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire (me) vs. Rossi vs. Bennett

or "recounts are for jerks"

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7360/2004gregoireresultpg5.gif)

Gregoire (D): 63%
Rossi (R): 33%
Bennett (L): 2%


Best counties:

Gregoire: Jefferson County - 75.0%
Rossi: Clallam County - 56.9%
Bennett: Ferry County - 5.5%

Worst counties:

Gregoire: Clallam County - 40.7%
Rossi: San Juan County - 22.1%
Bennett: Grant County - 1.0%

Closest county:

Adams County - Rossi wins over Gregoire 49.9% - 46.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 02:25:33 am
Way to botch the Clallam County vote, asscream.

I have no freaking clue how I won Okanagan County while losing Clallam County... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 02:44:35 am
And just for fun...

2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire vs. Rossi (me) vs. Bennett

or "revenge of the Rossi"

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2160/2004rossiresultze4.gif)

Rossi (R): 69%
Gregoire (D): 27%
Bennett (L): 3%


Best counties:

Rossi: Grant County - 82.3%
Gregoire: Clallam County - 43.8% (WTF, Clallam County?)
Bennett: King County - 5.8%

Worst counties:

Rossi: Clallam County - 53.2%
Gregoire: Grant County - 15.4%
Bennett: Yakima County - 0.3%

Closest county:

Clallam County - Rossi wins over Gregoire 53.2% - 43.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 14, 2006, 06:30:15 pm
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 06:49:58 pm
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 14, 2006, 07:10:51 pm
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.

Well then change it. Give yourself like $300,000 or something.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 07:16:06 pm
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.

Well then change it. Give yourself like $300,000 or something.

Actually, I just realized that there are the endorsers who give you $2,000,000 each if you win them.  I'll keep it where it is and just try to get every monetary endorsement.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on November 14, 2006, 07:24:42 pm
Way to botch the Clallam County vote, asscream.

I have no freaking clue how I won Okanagan County while losing Clallam County... :P

Moreover, getting over 60 percent as a Democrat in Garfield County while losing Clallam County. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 07:50:01 pm
2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire vs. Rossi vs. Bennett (me)

lol

(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9742/2004bennettresultmq5.gif)

Bennett (L): 36%
Rossi (R): 35%
Gregoire (D): 27%


Best counties:

Bennett: Okanogan County - 48.8%
Rossi: Adams County - 59.1%
Gregoire: Clallam County - 49.2%

Worst counties:

Bennett: Adams County - 16.6%
Rossi: San Juan County - 22.7%
Gregoire: Garfield County - 15.9%

Closest county:

Pierce County - Gregoire wins over Bennett 36.7% - 35.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on November 15, 2006, 01:46:10 am
I was playing the new President Forver + Primaries as Former Vice President Al Gore against Arizona Senator John McCain in 2008. Here's the results

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)

Al Gore/Tom Daschle 69,547,001 61.7% (429 E.V.)
John McCain/Duncan Hunter 43,234,714 37.3% (109 E.V.)

Here's another game I played this time as former Massachussets Governor Mitt Romney against 2004 Democratic nominee and Senator from Massachussets John Kerry; Senator Kerry selected Illinois Senator Barack Obama as his running mate, I (as Romney) selected former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Here's my map:
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Romney-Bush 68,509,570 58.4% (425 E.V.)
Kerry-Obama  48,580,854 41.6% (113 E.V.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on November 18, 2006, 01:06:32 pm
Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Nolan (also me). No Democratic candidate.


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;8;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;54;5&CO=2;8;6&CT=2;8;5&DE=2;3;6&DC=3;3;4&FL=2;25;6&GA=2;13;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;18;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;4;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=2;33;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;23;5&RI=3;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;32;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)


Bush
PV: 56%
EV: 531

Nader
PV: 35%
EV: 7

Nolan
PV: 7%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 20, 2006, 04:22:42 pm
This was fun - I created myself as the D -  Candidate with Bayh as my running mate.... against McCain/Huckabee.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;6&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;7&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;5;4&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;4&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Bayh - 302 - 51.6% (thanks largely to 60% in CA and IL)
McCain/Huckabee - 236 - 47.4%
Nader - 1.0%

Biggest Victories-

Reps
Alaska - 75-25
Alabama - 71-29
Utah - 70-30

Dems
Maryland (where I decided to come from) - 77-23
Connecticut - 75-25
Delaware - 74-26

Closest
Iowa - 49.5-49.7 (R)
Colorado - 49.9 - 49.9 (54 votes) (R)
Virginia - 48.7 - 49.3 (D)

Florida - Michigan - Ohio - Nevada - Wisconsin and New Mexico were all within 2.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 29, 2006, 06:22:53 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;6&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;4&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Clark - 49% - 262
Bush - 44% - 276
Nader - 4% - 0
Badnarik - 1% - 0

A heartbreaking loss, I held Bush close nationwide, but some last minute scandals and momentum couldn't push Clark over the top...a close win in Michigan and a decisive win in Wisconsin sealed my fate.

That has to be one of the largest disparities ever between the popular vote result and the electoral college result.

I also wonder how a Democrat could win all of Kansas, South Carolina, and Indiana, and yet not win the election... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Special K on November 30, 2006, 12:06:48 am
I was playing as Giuliani/Hagel (me) vs Biden/Kerry and this was the result.  I didn't use any cheats or anything, so I guess I'm just going to assume the new PF + Primaries is too easy.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Giuliani: 532
Biden: 6


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 2,868,691 on November 30, 2006, 09:33:47 pm
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 30, 2006, 10:36:33 pm
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?

Do you know what your order number was, or what the email address was you used when you ordered?

If so, I think you can send them an email and request a redownload.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 03:29:24 am
It appears that I spoiled things for Richard Burr.

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4161/nclibhl5.jpg)

Another moral victory for the "have lots of money and run on abortion, affirmative action, and immigration" strategy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 02, 2006, 04:13:06 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Warner/Richardson 295 - 60,572,804 - 51.6%

Frist/Allen 243 - 56,787,619 - 48.4%

NM was decided by 295 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 01:33:25 pm
Perhaps this was too easy

(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9773/ncvrebyf7.jpg)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on December 02, 2006, 01:40:54 pm
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?

rig the demo


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 02, 2006, 02:40:11 pm
Perhaps this was too easy

(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9773/ncvrebyf7.jpg)

omglol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 05:05:06 pm
Hm.. maybe a bit out there.

(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9980/wagatesnv3.png)

(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5328/wagates2zt5.png)

Best County
Rossi: Benton County (46.33%)
Gregoire: Jefferson County (42.03%)
Gates: Walla Walla County (45.57%)

Worst County
Rossi: San Juan County (23.85%)
Gregoire: Franklin County (16.02%)
Gates: Asotin County (24.77%)

Closest Counties
Grays Harbor: Gates over Gregoire, 34.45-34.30, 48 vote plurality
Pacific: Gregoire over Gates, 35.30-35.14, 15 vote plurality
Douglas: Rossi over Gates, 39.53-39.32, 32 vote plurality
King: Gates over Gregoire, 37.06-36.75, 2393 vote plurality
Clark: Rossi over Gates, 34.08-33.65, 726 vote plurality

Gates only finished third in Asotin County.

I based my campaign on jobs, attacking Rossi on jobs, attacking Rossi on abortion, and port security.

With 3 weeks left, Gregoire was up 43-33 and I had 20%.

With 2 weeks left, I got to around 25% or so.

With a week left, I cracked 30%

With a few days left, I put it out of reach.

Bill on the issues

Abortion: L
Affirmative Action: C
Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Jobs: C
Tsunami: CL
WASL: CL
Asian Trade: CR
Crime: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Boeing: C
Education: CL
Military Bases: C
Sales Tax: CR
Public Health Care: CR
Renewable Energy: C
State Divide: C
Port Security: CR

I think I intended to put Gates on the left on health care.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 02, 2006, 05:09:17 pm
[lol, bill gates]

Let me guess, you gave Bill Gates $2 billion. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 05:10:19 pm
[lol, bill gates]

Let me guess, you gave Bill Gates $2 billion. :P

Nah, only $100M


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 08:58:03 pm
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3026/canadapfqi2.jpg)

The Bloc got screwed. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 03, 2006, 12:06:54 am
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2091/1928pfcp8.jpg)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1948&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;11;4&AZ=1;4;4&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;3&DE=2;3;4&FL=3;8;4&GA=1;12;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=3;28;3&IN=3;13;3&IA=3;10;4&KS=2;8;4&KY=3;11;4&LA=3;10;5&ME=3;5;4&MD=3;8;5&MA=3;16;3&MI=3;19;4&MN=3;11;4&MS=3;9;5&MO=3;15;4&MT=3;4;5&NE=3;6;5&NV=3;3;5&NH=3;4;5&NJ=3;16;4&NM=3;4;5&NY=3;47;3&NC=3;14;4&ND=3;4;5&OH=3;25;5&OK=3;10;5&OR=3;6;5&PA=3;35;5&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=3;12;5&TX=3;23;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=3;3;5&VA=3;11;4&WA=3;8;5&WV=3;8;5&WI=3;12;5&WY=3;3;5)

Votes cast: 142,404,295
U.S. Population, 1920 Census: 105,273,049

Wow, a 135% percent turnout.

Looks like the GOTV operations really kicked ass in this election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 03, 2006, 05:23:06 pm
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7518/2006fasoresultto3.gif)

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 03, 2006, 05:46:59 pm
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7518/2006fasoresultto3.gif)

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 03, 2006, 05:49:06 pm
WTF?

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 03, 2006, 05:54:21 pm
WTF?

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PUT YOUR POM POMS DOWN on December 03, 2006, 06:01:43 pm
WTF?

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Everett on December 03, 2006, 06:11:17 pm
WTF?

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.
I've got an even better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a bad acid trip.

... this is getting stupid. Seriously, get off the drugs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PUT YOUR POM POMS DOWN on December 03, 2006, 06:14:16 pm
WTF?

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.
I've got an even better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a bad acid trip.

... this is getting stupid. Seriously, get off the drugs.

Oh piss off, I'm probably the only person on this board who's even had a bad acid trip.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 03, 2006, 11:23:10 pm
The electoral vote thing on here is slightly malapportioned.

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1899/nygovpf01sn4.jpg)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 04, 2006, 01:48:53 am
Evil prevails using an anti-free speech, pro-state control of the media, and pro-government ownership of business campaign.

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4593/ukrainexg0.jpg)

Compare the results

PF results on the left, 11/21 results on the right

Cherkasy: 59/41 Yu - 75/25 Yu
Chernihiv: 53/47 Yu - 69/31 Yu
Chernivtsi: 58/42 Yu - 77/23 Yu
Crimea: 89/11 Ya - 85/15 Ya
Dnipropetrovsk: 76/24 Ya - 68/32 Ya
Donetsk: 98/2 Ya - 98/2 Ya
Ivano Frankivska: 71/29 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Kharkiv: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Kherson: 67/33 Ya - 55/45 Ya
Khmelnytskyy: 50.1/49.8 Ya (2,014 votes) - 74/26 Yu
Kirovohrad: 63/37 Ya - 50.3/49.7 Ya
Kyiv City: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Kyiv Oblast: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Luhansk: 96/4 Ya - 95/5 Ya
Lviv: 65/35 Yu - 93/7 Yu
Mykolayiv: 80/20 Ya - 73/27 Ya
Odessa: 78/22 Ya - 72/28 Ya
Poltava: 57/43 Ya - 64/36 Yu
Rivne: 54/46 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Sevastopol: 93/7 Ya - 92/8 Ya
Sumy: 51/49 Ya - 72/28 Yu
Ternopil: 66/34 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Vinnytsya: 53/47 Yu - 78/22 Yu
Volyn: 61/39 Yu - 88/12 Yu
Zakarpattya: 60/40 Ya - 58/42 Yu
Zaporiska: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Zhytomyr: 57/43 Ya - 63/37 Yu
Tot: 65/35 Ya - 51/49 Ya


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 04, 2006, 07:37:00 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;3&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;3&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;3&GA=2;15;3&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;3&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;20;3&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;3&PA=1;21;3&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Allen/Hagel  302- 49.1%
Clark/Richardson 236 - 50.9%

--- the lighter coloured states were decided by less than a 5% margin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 04, 2006, 05:38:38 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1924&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;12;8&AZ=1;3;5&AR=1;9;8&CA=1;13;4&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&FL=1;6;7&GA=1;14;7&ID=1;4;4&IL=1;29;7&IN=1;15;6&IA=1;13;5&KS=1;10;6&KY=1;13;7&LA=1;10;8&ME=1;6;6&MD=1;8;7&MA=1;18;6&MI=1;15;6&MN=1;12;4&MS=1;10;9&MO=1;18;7&MT=1;4;5&NE=1;8;6&NV=1;3;6&NH=1;4;7&NJ=1;14;7&NM=1;3;7&NY=1;45;6&NC=1;12;8&ND=1;5;5&OH=1;24;6&OK=1;10;7&OR=1;5;6&PA=1;38;6&RI=1;5;7&SC=1;9;9&SD=1;5;5&TN=1;12;8&TX=1;20;8&UT=1;4;6&VT=1;4;6&VA=1;12;7&WA=1;7;4&WV=1;8;7&WI=1;13;5&WY=1;3;6)

Royal (D-MO): 68%
Coolidge (R-MA): 23%
LaFollette (P-WI): 9%

Yay Tariff, Unemployment and Agriculture!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 2,868,691 on December 04, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=1;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

My first game in well over a year, playing as Kerry vs. Bush.



I can't wait to play in the primaries and other weird scenarios.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Pope Michael Bolton on December 04, 2006, 07:36:20 pm
The electoral vote thing on here is slightly malapportioned.

(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1899/nygovpf01sn4.jpg)

Just a little :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on December 05, 2006, 11:36:09 am
Testing out the newing "Libertarian surge" scenario available on 80soft.com...


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;4&AR=2;6;4&CA=3;54;4&CO=3;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;6&FL=2;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=3;4;4&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;3&IA=2;7;4&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=2;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=3;5;4&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;4&ND=3;3;4&OH=1;21;4&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;3&SC=2;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=3;32;4&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=3;11;3&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)


George W. Bush (R)
PV: 34%
EV: 198

John Kerry (D)
PV: 34%
EV: 165

Clint Eastwood (L)
PV: 29%
EV: 175


Congress elected Bush of course.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nation on December 06, 2006, 12:00:03 am
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7518/2006fasoresultto3.gif)

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?

Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on December 06, 2006, 12:06:07 am
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7518/2006fasoresultto3.gif)

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?

Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.

A democrat didn't win Tompkins county but won Ononadga?

No fin way


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 06, 2006, 01:13:39 am
Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.

A democrat didn't win Tompkins county but won Ononadga?

No fin way

As we have seen numerous times in President Forever, anything is possible if enough ads are used... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 06, 2006, 08:17:22 pm
Here is a great one:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;3&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;3&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;3&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=1;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=2;12;3&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;7&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;3&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;3&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;3&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;6&WI=2;10;3&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

(The "30%" states are acctually ones where the vote was within 5%, I just marked them so you coudl see where the battlesgrounds were.

Giuliani/McCain: 402 EV 52.5%

Clinton/Edwards: 136 EV 47.5%

This was a wild one.  I started off in the primaries.  The Republican primary started off as a hotly contested challenge between Giuliani aka me (who controled most of the Northeast and Midwest), McCain (who dominated the Southwest, Moutain and Plains states along with Missouri and Florida), and Gingrich (who controled most of the Southeast).  Finally, Romney started out as a non-player, up slightly in Mass and Utah.  Tennessee and the Pacific states were up for grabs.

Well, first things first, I set my themes to Leadership, Iran, Homeland Security (all big winners for me in the primaries) and headed right for Tennessee, figuring that I control Iowa and New Hampshire and didn't stand much of a chance on Mini-Tuesday, other than for possible wins in Missouri and South Carolina, which I targeted heavily.  I spent the first few months going between Iowa, California, New Hampshire, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas and Ohio (when I started to slip there).  To make a long story short, I took Iowa by a huge margin (56%), lost New Hampshire by 1% to McCain, took South Carolina, but lost Missouri (to Gingrich), then came around to win both Tennessee and Virginia, and take Minnesota, California, Washington and Michigan.  Even though I was clearly kicking ass, Super-Tuesday was still in doubt.  I swept it, however by small margins in most states, losing only Georgia (to Gingrich), Maryland (to Romeny), Conn (also to Romney).  Without his mini-Tuesday wins, McCain wouldn't have much to show, but he was still on the map in several states.  With the Gulf State primaries coming up, I knew what I had to do.  I threw 10 PIP at Newt in exchage for hsi leaving the race and endorsing me.  He did, and from then on I pretty much ran the map.  I conviced Romney to bow out (though without endorsing me) before Colorado, and from then on, it was a stampede toward Rudy.  Seeking to unify the party and consoladate my forces early I offered McCain the VP slot and he jumped at it.

On the Dem side, I set the match up between Hillary, Edwards, Kerry and Clark.  I'm not sure of all the specifics of this race, but Hillary started off in charge in most states and stayed that way until the end.  Kerry was the last one to bow out, and he did so just before the DNC.  None of the other candidates endorsed Hillary, but she picked Edwards as VP during the convention.

At the start of the general, she was kicking my ass.  I was ahead in PA, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Texas, and what I called the "Giuliani Belt" which is the sorta "P" shaped area going from Arizona, though the Morman states, then east to Minnesota, before coming back down to Missouri, Kansas and Colorado.  I was acctually down by quite a few points in Wyoming, Nebraska and South Dakota.  I was also up in Indiana, Michigan, Conn, Mass and New Hampshire.

I shifted away from the Homeland Security theme (good in primaries, but not in the General) and toward Health Care.  I then attacked Hillary on her Health Care possition.  It was the onyl attack I put out, but I stuck with it.

Hmmm...  I gotta head, I'll finish this one later


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 07, 2006, 01:37:05 am
To Continue...

First I would liek to say that this is the first time I even defeated McCain in an open field... in fact, it is the first time I have ever defeated him in the game.  I'm not sure how much, if at all, the elimination of Frist and Allen (which is entirely accurate now) effected the result, but it seems that I was either lucky, I'm picking up some skill, found the right issues, or simply got lucky.

Anyway, I didn't spend much time attacking Hillary.  I did the standard scandal research, but that was it.  She didn't attack me at first that much either.  Her lead in the polls just after the conventions was huge (about 6% of the PV) and while I had small leads in some non-traditionally Republican states (PA, MI, MN, WI, MA) I was getting killed in several 2004 swing states (down 10% in Ohio, 13% in Nevada, 8% in New Mexico) not to mention I was behind in all the peripheral south (except NC) by large margins and was trailing in Louisiana, Mississippi, South Dakota, Nebraska (by a whoping 13%), Wyoming and Oklahoma and was only 1 point up in Georgia and NC.  The only real bright spot was that I was up by a seemly impossible 23% in Missouri (and it held through the election, which it is not unrare in the primaries version to see large leads vanish... well, just look at the election as a whole, heh).


Well, so I figured first thing first.  I went to all the traditionally Republican states (excpet Arkansas, Virginia and WV, which I conceded to Clinton) to see if I could get my name out there and drum up support.  Many of these state, I simply hadn't had time to visit during the primaries.  This generated some mixed results.  I was able to get Mississippi (and how) and LA back on my side, but Tennessee continued to be a battle.

At this point, I was losing major ground in some of the states I already had... I was sliding in Georgia, Florida, Texas and Mass.  I was half tempted to just give up on this one, but I decided to see it through.  Things started to change once I got my first Hillary Health Care commercial out.  I blasted the airwaves of over 20 states with 3 ads, the other two possitive for me.

Wyoming soon fell back into my column, as did Georgia and Florida, and I stopped the bleeding in Texas.  Within about two weeks, I had managed to grab up New Mexico, Oklahoma, Tennessee and almost had Ohio is my column.  Then... Hillary hit me with two scandals at once.  I lost Tennessee and all the other states I was able to pick up or get back once again fell into the toss-up or lean columns.

My next break didn't come until about two weeks later when I cruched Hillary in the first debate.  At first, the reaction was acctually kinda negative (almost as though I made her look so bad that people thought I was being mean), but soon a possitive effect started to kick in and all the close states started to lean back towards me.  I picked up Ohio.

I was till about 3% behind in the PV polls and needed about another 20 EVs to win, even if all the close states went for me.  I looked around, wieghed my options and went for California.  Granted, I was 13 points down there, but there were a lot of undecides.  The second debate came, and I once again crush Clinton... who then promptly released a Level 6 scandal against me.  While I was well in the possitive momentum range in many of my key states, the scandal was killing me in Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio (I must has said I don't like cheese... ha).  So I had to abort in California and head there.  Luckily, thanks to my foot soldiers, my momentum in Cali was self sustaining, and I soon got the Midwest back under control, although I temporarily lost Indiana.  Having sepnt all that time in that part of the map, I started eyeing up Illinios and figures "why not".  It was basically the same situation as Cali... so I headed in.

I defeated Clinton once again in the third debate, but not by quite as much as the first two.

By this time, Hillary was going full out negative on me... and it backfired.  Several "is the Clinton camp to Negative" and "Clinton Attack Ad Backfires" stories started to appear and I took full advantage of all of them.  In the last week, I had spare cash, and a decent lead, so I figured "why not go all out"... I started running ads in all the states I had written off as "out of reach".

Apparently, she was doing something that worked in North Carolina and Wisconsin, because I was very suprised at the closeness of the final results there, but for the most part, a tidal wave started in favor of me.

On election night, I was delighted when, at 9:22 PM, Illinois went from "Too Close to Call" to my column, putting me over the top.  I was even more delighted when Arkansas, while I had been down 11 points in just one week before, also went my way by 2%.

It wasn't quite the wash that the map might make it seem, several states, including Cali weren't called until hours after the polls closed there.

I would like to point out though that, yep, that is >70% in Missouri... 72% to be exact... it was my biggest win of the night.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 05:22:26 pm
Also, has anyone else played the 2004 Iowa Caucus scenario?  I simply cannot win as Kerry...it's about impossible.

I just tried.  There's something seriously wrong with that scenario.  Gephardt had a momentum of around -50 for the entire campaign due to constant scandals.  No movement whatsoever.  Zip.  Zilch.  Gephardt made a clean sweep of Iowa, winning every congressional district.

I will not be trying it again. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 2,868,691 on December 07, 2006, 05:27:10 pm
Also, has anyone else played the 2004 Iowa Caucus scenario?  I simply cannot win as Kerry...it's about impossible.

I just tried.  There's something seriously wrong with that scenario.  Gephardt had a momentum of around -50 for the entire campaign due to constant scandals.  No movement whatsoever.  Zip.  Zilch.  Gephardt made a clean sweep of Iowa, winning every congressional district.

I will not be trying it again. :P

Yeah, it's really weird.  I may try to edit the scenario files somewhat.



Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 05:31:24 pm
Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?

What do you mean "straight 2008"?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 2,868,691 on December 07, 2006, 06:02:33 pm
Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?

What do you mean "straight 2008"?
just a realistic 2008 scenario, not something with a strong 3rd party or a every state is tied or something


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 06:10:07 pm
just a realistic 2008 scenario, not something with a strong 3rd party or a every state is tied or something

This one (http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/153994-D5YA/Ultimate-2008.zip) is a very good 2008 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 07, 2006, 08:56:41 pm
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 08:59:06 pm
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

Just go find a cracked version of the game somewhere. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Rob on December 07, 2006, 10:08:16 pm
Is there anywhere I can download the complete game free? I have the demo, and as soon as I was getting into it... it cut me off. What a let-down. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 10:09:54 pm
Is there anywhere I can download the complete game free?

Not legally, at any rate. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 08, 2006, 03:48:31 pm
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

The problem with the primaries version is that you need to program a starting amount for each candidate, or elese they will start out at "0"... so it is a lot harder to do than it was in the old one.  Plus, you have to program the issues in for each candidate and they each have 7 possitions now instead of 5, which makes it more realistic, but also makes it harder to creat other people as candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 08, 2006, 04:57:14 pm
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

The problem with the primaries version is that you need to program a starting amount for each candidate, or elese they will start out at "0"... so it is a lot harder to do than it was in the old one.

You can highlight more than one state at a time using shift or control.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 09, 2006, 03:59:58 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1952&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;11;5&AZ=1;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=1;6;6&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=1;12;6&ID=1;4;6&IL=1;27;6&IN=1;13;6&IA=1;10;5&KS=1;8;5&KY=1;10;7&LA=1;10;6&ME=1;5;6&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;11;6&MS=1;8;6&MO=1;13;6&MT=1;4;6&NE=1;6;6&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;16;6&NM=1;4;7&NY=1;45;7&NC=1;14;7&ND=1;4;6&OH=1;25;7&OK=1;8;6&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;4;7&TN=1;11;7&TX=1;24;5&UT=1;4;6&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;12;7&WA=1;9;6&WV=1;8;5&WI=1;12;7&WY=1;3;7)

Truman/Harriman (D) - 50,524,886 votes (64.4975%)
Eisenhower/Nixon (R) - 27,811,347 votes (35.5025%)

Best states for Truman:
New York - 75/25
North Carolina - 75/25
Vermont - 75/25
Wisconsin - 74/26
New Mexico - 74/26

Worst states for Truman
Arizona - 50.37/49.63
Kansas - 54/46
Iowa - 55/45
Michigan - 55/45
West Virginia - 55/45

In this version of history, apparently Eisenhower turns out to be an inept campaigner.

Using "Ike vs Adlai - 1952" I grilled Eisenhower on Education and Unemployment. After softening up his northern support with criticism of his integration stand.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 17, 2006, 09:37:58 pm
Election 2008

I played as Badnarik, and didn't do much until the general election, because, for one, he doesn't have a primary opponent, and for two, this was mostly intended to be a test of my tampered-with 2008 scenario.  I added three more candidates to the Constitution nomination (Randy Jones of Alabama (:D), Snootay Bankeur of New York, and Wayne Granger of Wyoming) and also fixed the dates a bit so that some momentum could have a chance to build due to primary victories.  The numbers I gave them in each state actually made the primary as a whole rather competitive, which was fun to watch :) 

Eventually John Kerry won a very competitive Democratic primary over Hillary Clinton, thanks in part to a pre-convention endorsement from John Edwards.  Interestingly, this was the first computer-only primary I've seen where there was no majority at the convention; Joe Biden and Wes Clark were also in the race, but they both gave most of their delegates to Kerry to push him over the margin necessary.  The Republican primary was a bit of a snoozer... Romney took the lead a short time after the New Hampshire primary, and never let go.  I managed to get McCain's endorsement before he departed the race.  The Constitution primaries also went to Bankeur at the convention, when Peroutka and Granger gave most of their votes to him instead of to Jones.

Once it got to the general election, I started creating crusaders and making ads.  The day before election day I released them in strategically selected markets, and on election day proper I did the typical 50-state ad blitz (well, 49, you'll see what I mean).

Here are the results:

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4132/krbb1overalliz1.png)
John Kerry/Wesley Clark (D) - 54,682,029 votes (46.2%) - 345 EV
Mitt Romney/Condoleezza Rice (R) - 45,948,816 votes (38.8%) - 193 EV
Michael Badnarik/Lance Brown (L) - 12,414,832 votes (10.5%) - 0 EV
Snooty Bankeur/Wayne Granger (C) - 5,403,460 votes (4.6%) - 0 EV

Democratic:
(http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6927/krbb1demyl8.png)

Republican:
(http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/7522/krbb1rephk9.png)

Libertarian:
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8670/krbb1liberfo8.png)
No Ballot means no ballot access.

Constitution:
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2312/krbb1constitutionfy2.png)

Whee :)

Oh, and, gotta mention: based on 2004 registration numbers, this is an impressive 70.59% turnout!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 26, 2006, 01:46:23 am
I almost blew a 17 point lead.

The last poll before the election had me up 57-40

The final results..

Leon Sharpe (R) - 1,177,697 (51.51%)
Janet Napolitano (D) - 1,108,643 (48.49%)

(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/156/azgovsharpexk7.png)

Best County for Sharpe: Yavapai (78%)
Worst County for Sharpe: Apache (23%)

Granted, if the scenario wasn't so screwy that it put the election on a Sunday, then I could have seen it all coming.

And the EV-ish thing for Arizona gave the election to Napolitano due to Maricopa.

But yeah, that tops any other game, meltdown-wise.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 27, 2006, 01:28:04 am
In memory of the late President Gerald Rudolph Ford Junior, I narrowly won as incumbent President Ford. Here's the results from the Electoral College.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=1;6;5&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;45;4&CO=2;7;5&CT=2;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;17;5&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=2;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;4&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;4&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=2;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=2;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;4&OK=2;8;4&OR=2;6;4&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;4&WA=2;9;4&WV=2;6;5&WI=2;11;4&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;4&ME1=2;1;4&ME2=2;1;4)

Ford-Reagan 50% 284 EV
Carter-Mondale 45% 254 EV
McCarthy-Lucey 5% 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 04:57:57 am
I didn't quite top that 69/27 Rossi win a few pages back, but

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8362/wagovpfir5.png)

Webb (R): 69%
Gregoire (D): 29%
Bennett (L): 2%


Best county for
Webb: Adams (80.9%)
Gregoire: Jefferson (37.5%)
Bennett: Skamania (4.4%)

Worst county for
Webb: Jefferson (60%)
Gregoire: Benton (17.4%)
Bennett: Thurston (0.2%)

It only took $15M to elect a guy who wants to ban all abortions with 69% of the vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on December 27, 2006, 05:08:48 am
Who...is Webb, exactly?

I feel ashamed that I don't know this.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 01:57:00 pm
Who...is Webb, exactly?

I feel ashamed that I don't know this.

Webb is just a guy who I use for various political sim games. He's basically more conservative than Bush.

And I gave him the home county of Spokane County.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 08:39:07 pm
America is doomed

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/526/1968pfat7.jpg)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;6&CA=2;40;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=3;3;6&FL=3;14;4&GA=3;12;5&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;3&IN=3;13;4&IA=2;9;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=3;9;4&LA=3;10;7&ME=2;4;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;14;3&MI=3;21;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;12;4&MT=3;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=3;3;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;17;4&NM=2;4;3&NY=2;43;4&NC=3;13;5&ND=2;4;4&OH=3;26;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;4&PA=3;29;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;4&TX=3;25;4&UT=3;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;3&WA=2;9;4&WV=3;7;5&WI=2;12;4&WY=2;3;4)

The real total is 292-246 Wallace.

And the climb involved going from 9% to 30% after 3 polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 27, 2006, 09:29:34 pm
America is doomed

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=3;10;6&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;5&AR=3;6;6&CA=2;40;4&CO=2;6;4&CT=2;8;4&DE=2;3;4&DC=3;3;6&FL=3;14;4&GA=3;12;5&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=2;26;3&IN=3;13;4&IA=2;9;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=3;9;4&LA=3;10;7&ME=2;4;5&MD=3;10;4&MA=3;14;3&MI=3;21;4&MN=2;10;4&MS=3;7;5&MO=3;12;4&MT=3;4;4&NE=2;5;5&NV=3;3;3&NH=2;4;4&NJ=3;17;4&NM=2;4;3&NY=2;43;4&NC=3;13;5&ND=2;4;4&OH=3;26;4&OK=2;8;5&OR=2;6;4&PA=3;29;4&RI=3;4;4&SC=3;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=3;11;4&TX=3;25;4&UT=3;4;4&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;3&WA=2;9;4&WV=3;7;5&WI=2;12;4&WY=2;3;4)

The real total is 292-246 Wallace.

And the climb involved going from 9% to 30% after 3 polls.

:D

I've won as Wallace before, too.  Good stuff.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 27, 2006, 10:11:09 pm
McCain/Hagel vs Biden/Clark

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

McCain 322 - 50.3%
Biden 216 - 49.7%

IA, NM, OR, MI, PA, MI, GA and OH were all decided by less than 0.5%

McCain only got over 60% in UT, WY, ID and MS
Biden got 60% in NY, MA, IL, MD, VT and RI


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 28, 2006, 01:17:14 am
Bush/Cheney v. Kerry/Edwards v. Nader v. Penn/Teller

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;4&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;21;4&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=1;9;3&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;17;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;3&MO=1;11;4&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;5;3&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;31;4&NC=1;15;4&ND=2;3;4&OH=1;20;3&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=1;34;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=1;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;3&WI=1;10;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4715/pennpfae7.jpg)

Having an unrealistic amount of money is good. Even if you have to preserve it near the end, preventing you from winning it all.

I did spend a lot on the Saturday before the election, leading to this:

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/301/penn1pg5.jpg)

and this:

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7735/penn2zc5.jpg)

and it gave me a bounce of one point!

Whoo!

And I mainly kept Teller on the road fundraising instead of speaking.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on January 29, 2007, 12:27:12 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1968&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;10;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;5;3&AR=2;6;3&CA=1;40;3&CO=2;6;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;14;3&GA=2;12;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;26;3&IN=2;13;3&IA=3;9;3&KS=2;7;3&KY=2;9;3&LA=2;10;3&ME=1;4;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;14;3&MI=1;21;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;12;3&MT=2;4;3&NE=2;5;4&NV=2;3;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;17;3&NM=2;4;3&NY=1;43;3&NC=2;13;3&ND=2;4;4&OH=2;26;3&OK=2;8;4&OR=1;6;3&PA=1;29;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;4;3&TN=2;11;3&TX=2;25;3&UT=2;4;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=2;12;3&WA=3;9;3&WV=2;7;3&WI=3;12;3&WY=2;3;4)

Bush - 41,452,892 (279 EV, 33.35%)
Kerry - 41,931,015 (214 EV, 33.74%)
Buchanan - 40,902,921 (45 EV, 32.91%)

The Popular Vote Surrenders

(Although, I did do a good job using large amounts of money. Around $550M spent for Buchanan)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 09, 2007, 10:08:10 am
Carter vs. Reagan 1980 (dynamism off, no negative ads)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1980&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;4&CO=2;7;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;17;4&GA=1;12;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;26;4&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;8;4&KS=2;7;4&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;5;6&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;17;4&NM=2;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;25;5&OK=2;8;6&OR=1;6;4&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=2;26;5&UT=2;4;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;12;4&WA=1;9;4&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5)


Carter
PV: 49%
EV: 414

Reagan
PV: 43%
EV: 124

Anderson
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Clark
PV: 1%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 10, 2007, 02:17:18 pm
WTF???


Gore/Lieberman vs. McCain/E. Dole 2000

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Gore
PV: 48%
EV: 321

McCain
PV: 49%
EV: 217

Buchanan
PV: 1%
EV: 0

Nader
PV: 0%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 10, 2007, 02:38:32 pm
WTF???


Gore/Lieberman vs. McCain/E. Dole 2000

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;8;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;7&FL=2;25;5&GA=2;13;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;6&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;4;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;4&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Gore
PV: 48%
EV: 321

McCain
PV: 49%
EV: 217

Buchanan
PV: 1%
EV: 0

Nader
PV: 0%
EV: 0

Not too absurd. Take away Texas and NC and that looks reasonable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 15, 2007, 10:23:57 pm
I played Edwards/Obama against Giuliani/Romney on hard without primaries and did pretty well:

Edwards 311 - Giuliani 227

Edwards: 58,813,690 (50.1%)
Giuliani:   58,546,733 (49.9%)

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;6&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 16, 2007, 01:26:43 am
2008 - Obama/Richardson vs. Giuliani/Brownback (Hard)

You want polarization?  I'll give you polarization!!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;6&GA=2;15;7&HI=1;4;6&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;7&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;7&NM=2;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=1;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=2;3;7&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;5&UT=1;5;5&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;13;6&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;7&WI=2;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;5&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;5&NE3=1;1;5)

Obama/Richardson (D): 456 EVs, 58.9% PV
Giuliani/Brownback (R): 82 EVs, 41.1% PV

This was one of the most boring election nights in PF+P that I've ever had because, I kid you not, every single state save for North Dakota and Idaho was called within three minutes of their polls closing.  The closest state was Idaho at 53.1% to 46.9%.  The ultimate bellwether state was Michigan, at bang-on 58.9% to 41.1%.

I think the folks at 80soft still have, er, a few kinks to work out...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 16, 2007, 05:51:28 am
I just played a game where I won Alaska by 12 votes!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 19, 2007, 06:31:17 am
I think the folks at 80soft still have, er, a few kinks to work out...

Yeah, especially how when you play primaries and win and get to the general election a few of the states are on crack. I also played a general election game recently where with a couple weeks left the whole country went crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 22, 2007, 11:20:54 pm
I've been thinking a recount button if the result was within 0.5% would be fun.


My most recent.


Giuliani/Sanford
Clinton/Richardson

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton/Richardson - 52.7% 268 EV
Giuliani/Sanford - 47.3% 270 EV

I was able to gut Giuliani in the south - GA and TN came within 3% NC, VA, AR and TX were within 7%. Giuliani won MN, IA and WI by 0.2%, 0.6% and 0.75 respectively.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 23, 2007, 01:22:22 am
so as Gore I won the popular vote in 2008 by about 1.5% but came short of 270 in the electoral college by 4 votes. Closest state: Michigan, going to my opponent Giuliani by a total of 127 votes (I was a little dissapointed at that result but I guess it just might be destiny for Gore)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 23, 2007, 08:46:41 am
Well, this is certainly one of the rare occasions were D.C. and Utah were won by the same candidate. :D


Carter/Mondale vs. Reagan/Rockefeller 1976 (dynamism off):

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1976&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;6;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;45;5&CO=2;7;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;17;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;8;5&KS=2;7;5&KY=1;9;4&LA=1;10;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=2;21;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=2;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;41;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;27;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=1;10;5&TX=1;26;5&UT=1;4;5&VT=2;3;6&VA=1;12;5&WA=2;9;5&WV=1;6;5&WI=1;11;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5)

Carter
PV: 51%
EV: 367

Reagan
PV: 47%
EV: 171


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 23, 2007, 10:36:21 am
1992: Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)

Dynamism off, no negative campaigning (at least from my/Perot's side)


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;3&AZ=1;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;5&CO=1;8;4&CT=1;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;25;4&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;3&IL=1;22;5&IN=1;12;4&IA=1;7;5&KS=3;6;3&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=1;3;3&NV=1;4;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;33;5&NC=1;14;4&ND=2;3;3&OH=1;21;4&OK=1;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;3&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;32;4&UT=3;5;3&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;4&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;11;4&WY=3;3;3&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)


Brown
PV: 48%
EV: 512

Buchanan
PV: 26%
EV: 8

Perot
PV: 25%
EV: 18


Closest state - Oklahoma
Brown: 33.9%
Perot: 33.3%
Buchanan: 32.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 23, 2007, 11:01:54 am
Same scenario w/ dynamism on:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=1;8;3&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;54;4&CO=1;8;4&CT=3;8;4&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;25;3&GA=1;13;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;3&IL=1;22;5&IN=3;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=3;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;5&MN=3;10;4&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;4&NH=3;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;33;5&NC=3;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;4&OR=3;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=1;8;4&SD=3;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=3;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=1;13;4&WA=3;11;4&WV=1;5;4&WI=3;11;4&WY=3;3;4&ME=3;2;4&ME1=3;1;4&ME2=3;1;4&NE=3;2;4&NE1=3;1;4&NE2=3;1;4&NE3=3;1;4)


Brown
PV: 44%
EV: 339

Perot
PV: 31%
EV: 181

Buchanan
PV: 24%
EV: 18


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on February 23, 2007, 11:36:39 am
2004 as Nader with dynamism on and negative ad blitz at the end:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)


Kerry
PV: 39%
EV: 238

Bush
PV: 37%
EV: 242

Nader
PV: 22%
EV: 58


Election tied, Congress elected Bush


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 23, 2007, 12:06:00 pm
2004 as Nader with dynamism on and negative ad blitz at the end:


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;8;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;54;4&CO=2;8;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;25;4&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;4&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;4&IN=2;12;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;4&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;18;4&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;7;4&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;4&NV=2;4;4&NH=2;4;3&NJ=1;15;4&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=3;14;3&ND=2;3;3&OH=3;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;23;4&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=3;5;4&VT=1;3;4&VA=3;13;3&WA=1;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=1;11;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;4&ME1=1;1;4&ME2=1;1;4&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)


Kerry
PV: 39%
EV: 238

Bush
PV: 37%
EV: 242

Nader
PV: 22%
EV: 58


Election tied, Congress elected Bush

Utah seems to always be the state most favorable to third-party candidates.  I've never quite understood why.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 24, 2007, 01:16:10 am
Ok just played as Hillary in a nasty primary battle w Clark and Edwards.

I asked Clark to be my running-mate, but Edwards refused to withdraw from the race. Every week he stayed in (he had 600 delegates to my 2500) it weakened me at a national level. So by the time it was a

Clinton/Clark - Romney/Sanford race it looked like this in the first day of the general election.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=0;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=0;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=0;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=0;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton - 36.3% - 37 EV
Romney - 52.3% - 450 EV
Undecided - 11.4% - 51 EV

After losing all the debates, I managed to find Romney's weakspot Homeland Security. I didn't win, but I was proud of the ground I made up.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton - 47.1% - 214 EV
Romney - 52.9% - 324


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 24, 2007, 02:23:51 am
Played as Edwards. After facing a hard three-way primary of Edwards vs. Clinton vs. Biden I came out with the most delegates but about 100 or so short of securing the nomination so I managed to get Biden to endorse me and proceeded along to the general election. It was Edwards vs. Giuliani vs. Badnarik vs. Peroutka and until about the last three weeks it was tied, then I managed to pull away:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;4&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=1;1;4)

Popular Vote:
Edwards: 50.6 %
Guiliani: 40.5 %
Badnarik: 5.2%
Peroutka: 3.8%

I was suprised at how well the third parties did, together they polled nearly 10% (though Edwards was still able to get a 10% winning margin along with a majority of the vote)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 24, 2007, 02:26:33 am
Played as Edwards. After facing a hard three-way primary of Edwards vs. Clinton vs. Biden I came out with the most delegates but about 100 or so short of securing the nomination so I managed to get Biden to endorse me and proceeded along to the general election. It was Edwards vs. Giuliani vs. Badnarik vs. Peroutka and until about the last three weeks it was tied, then I managed to pull away:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;7&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;4&MS=2;6;4&MO=2;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;4&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;4&SD=2;3;4&TN=1;11;4&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=1;2;4&NE1=1;1;5&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=1;1;4)

Popular Vote:
Edwards: 50.6 %
Guiliani: 40.5 %
Badnarik: 5.2%
Peroutka: 3.8%

I was suprised at how well the third parties did, together they polled nearly 10% (though Edwards was still able to get a 10% winning margin along with a majority of the vote)

Oh, the suprises of the night:
Utah was only won by .3% of the vote
Hawaii went Republican in a Dem landslide (dittto for Iowa, Missouri, West Virginia and New Hampshire)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 27, 2007, 01:22:56 am
I just played my custom made 2008 Presidential Election scenario. It was quite an interesting election. Well here's the results.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=0;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=0;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

The tickets were:

Governor Michael Shandling (Minnesota)-Senator Dick Ford (Arkansas) 39% (49,258,177) 274 EV

Senator Gary Lewis (Tennessee)-Senator Homer Baxter (Arizona) 38% (47,661,812) 244 EV

President of Bobrick Enterprises Nathan Bobrick(Washington)-Former Governor Barbara Mitchell (New Jersey) 22% (27,715,416) 21 EV

I played as Nathan Bobrick. I didn't run any of my commericals until the final 5 days of the election. My poll numbers went from 10% to 22% in the space of 5 days.

* The Grey on the map represents the Bobrick-Mitchell tickets EV's.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 27, 2007, 03:40:15 am
Edwards/Richardson vs Giuliani/Hagel +libertarian and constitution.

This was a SQUEAKER!

This was the map going into election night.
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;4&CT=0;7;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=0;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=0;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;7&MI=0;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=0;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=0;5;5&NH=0;4;5&NJ=0;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=0;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=0;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=0;21;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=0;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=0;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Dems had 199
Reps had 133
with 206 EV pure toss up.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;7&MI=2;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Final Results
Edwards/Richardson - 48.5% - 313 EV
Giuliani/Hagel - 48.2% - 225 EV
Libertarian - 2.1%
Constitution - 1.2%

NC, FL, MI, AR, TN, WV and CT were decided by less than 0.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 27, 2007, 03:46:11 am
Edwards/Richardson vs Giuliani/Hagel +libertarian and constitution.

This was a SQUEAKER!

This was the map going into election night.
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;4&CT=0;7;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=0;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=0;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;7&MI=0;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=0;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=0;5;5&NH=0;4;5&NJ=0;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=0;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=0;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=0;21;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=0;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=0;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)
Dems had 199
Reps had 133
with 206 EV pure toss up.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;4&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;4&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;4&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;7&MI=2;17;4&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;4&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;4&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Final Results
Edwards/Richardson - 48.5% - 313 EV
Giuliani/Hagel - 48.2% - 225 EV
Libertarian - 2.1%
Constitution - 1.2%

NC, FL, MI, AR, TN, WV and CT were decided by less than 0.5%

wtf happened to Massachusetts?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 27, 2007, 07:02:57 am
MA
Edwards - 71.4%
Giuliani - 25.4%
Lib - 1.7%
Cons - 1.5%

Edwards also won IL by a 58-39 margin. Oh IN was R 49.2 - 47.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on February 28, 2007, 11:31:44 pm
I usually don't post my results much anymore, but the "Kerry vs. GOP" scenario is one that is very pro-Kerry, but as Governor Arnold Schwarzennger I won a landslide so rediculous that it has to be shown:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;6&GA=2;15;6&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;6&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;6&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;6&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;6&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;6&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;8&VT=2;3;6&VA=2;13;6&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;8&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Arnold Schwarzenneger/Mike Huckabee (R): 523 Electoral Votes, 60% (75,387,673) of the poular vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 17 Electoral Votes, 39% (49,050,892) of the popular vote

Here is the result from Washington, D.C.:

Kerry (D): 58.7% (148,252)
Arnold (R): 41.2% (104,129)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 01, 2007, 12:14:54 am
I usually don't post my results much anymore

Why not?  That's half the fun of it. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 01, 2007, 01:33:25 am
I am so pissed off right now! I was just playing as General Wes Clark against President George W. Bush in the defult 2004 Presidential scenario in p4e. Well have a look for yourself how I came back from the dead and won the popular vote against President Bush.

Two weeks to go

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=0;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=0;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

2 weeks out election polls:
Bush: 49%
Clark: 40%
UND: 7%

One day to go

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=0;11;5&IA=0;7;4&KS=0;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=0;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=0;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=0;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=0;20;5&OK=0;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=0;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

P.S. I forgot to include Minnesota in the Clark collumn.

One day out election polls:
Bush: 45% (-4)
Clark: 49% (+8)
UND: 2% (-4)

Election Night Predictions

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush/Cheney= 246 EV (Including Maryland)
Clark/Dean= 292 EV (Including New Hampshire)

Final Election Results

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Well there you go. I won the popular vote by 5 percent, but lost the presidency by 8 Electoral Votes. The joy of American democracy.

Popular Vote Details:
Bush/Cheney: 47% (59,162,150) 273 E.V.
Clark/Dean: 52% (65,013,081) 265 E.V


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 01, 2007, 11:56:49 pm
That looks like a reasonable map for the 2000 election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 02, 2007, 02:16:40 am
2004 - Dean/Feingold (the liberal stallion! - me) vs. Bush/Cheney (Hard)

Pre-election key

Grey - Tossup
>30% - Edge
>50% - Ahead
>70% - Solid
>90% - _____ Country

With four weeks to go, the race seemed to be right where Bush wanted it to be.  He was over the magic number of electoral votes, even without the tossup states.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=2;3;9&AZ=2;10;3&AR=2;6;7&CA=1;55;7&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;3&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;9&IL=1;21;3&IN=2;11;7&IA=0;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=0;8;5&LA=2;9;7&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;7&MI=0;17;5&MN=1;10;3&MS=2;6;3&MO=0;11;5&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;7&NH=0;4;5&NJ=1;15;9&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;31;7&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;9&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;3&PA=0;21;5&RI=1;4;9&SC=2;8;7&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;3&UT=2;5;9&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;7&WA=0;11;5&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;10;3&WY=2;3;9&ME=0;2;5&ME1=0;1;5&ME2=0;1;5&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush/Cheney (R): 277 EVs
Dean/Feingold (D): 178 EVs
Tossup: 83 EVs

However, at two weeks to go, after winning every debate and running two short nationwide ad blitzes, the tide was... kind of turning a bit.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=0;9;5&AK=1;3;7&AZ=0;10;5&AR=1;6;7&CA=1;55;9&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;9&DE=1;3;9&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;9&GA=1;15;9&HI=1;4;9&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;9&IA=0;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;9&LA=1;9;9&MD=1;10;9&MA=1;12;9&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;7&MS=2;6;7&MO=1;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=1;5;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;9&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;31;9&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;3&OH=1;20;7&OK=2;7;7&OR=1;7;9&PA=1;21;9&RI=1;4;9&SC=1;8;9&SD=1;3;9&TN=2;11;3&TX=1;34;9&UT=2;5;3&VT=1;3;9&VA=1;13;7&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;9&WI=1;10;9&WY=1;3;7&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Dean/Feingold (D): 430 EVs
Bush/Cheney (R): 73 EVs
Tossup: 35 EVs

With one day to go, Bush had made up some lost ground, but lost ground elsewhere, and it didn't look like it would be nearly enough.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=0;9;5&AK=1;3;7&AZ=0;10;5&AR=1;6;9&CA=1;55;9&CO=1;9;3&CT=1;7;9&DE=1;3;9&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;7&GA=1;15;9&HI=1;4;9&ID=0;4;5&IL=0;21;5&IN=1;11;9&IA=0;7;5&KS=2;6;7&KY=0;8;5&LA=1;9;7&MD=1;10;9&MA=1;12;9&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;9&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;9&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;5;3&NH=2;4;9&NJ=1;15;9&NM=0;5;5&NY=1;31;9&NC=0;15;5&ND=2;3;7&OH=1;20;7&OK=2;7;7&OR=1;7;9&PA=1;21;9&RI=1;4;9&SC=1;8;9&SD=1;3;9&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;9&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;9&VA=0;13;5&WA=1;11;7&WV=1;5;9&WI=1;10;7&WY=1;3;7&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;9&NE1=2;1;9&NE2=2;1;9&NE3=2;1;9)

Dean/Feingold (D): 391 EVs
Bush/Cheney (R): 55 EVs
Tossup: 92 EVs

Election night came.  The election was called for Dean at 9:03 PM, before any of the west coast's polls even had a chance to report.

To add insult to injury, Texas was then called for Dean three minutes later at 9:06 PM.

Bush retired to Crawford in shame and was never seen in the public spotlight again.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;10;6&AR=1;6;6&CA=1;55;7&CO=1;9;6&CT=1;7;7&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=1;15;6&HI=1;4;7&ID=1;4;5&IL=2;21;6&IN=1;11;6&IA=2;7;6&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;6&LA=1;9;6&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;6&MN=1;10;6&MS=1;6;6&MO=1;11;6&MT=1;3;6&NV=1;5;6&NH=2;4;6&NJ=1;15;7&NM=2;5;6&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=1;20;6&OK=2;7;7&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;6&SD=1;3;6&TN=2;11;6&TX=1;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;7&VA=2;13;6&WA=1;11;6&WV=1;5;6&WI=1;10;6&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Dean/Feingold (D): 447 EVs, 62.9% PV
Bush/Cheney (R): 91 EVs, 37.1% PV

Best states

Dean: Rhode Island - Dean wins over Bush 77.1% - 22.9%.
Bush: Utah - Bush wins over Dean 78.6% - 21.4%.

Closest state

Idaho - Dean wins over Bush 59.0% - 41.0% (yes, this seriously was the closest result there was... I seem to be a very polarizing figure in PF+P :)).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 02, 2007, 03:00:35 am
2004 - Kerry/Vilsack vs. Bush/Cheney vs. Nader/Camejo (me) (Easy)

With one day to go before the election, Nader seemed like he wouldn't even make a dent in the election one bit.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;9&AZ=0;10;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=1;55;3&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;3&DE=2;3;7&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;3&GA=2;15;7&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;9&IL=0;21;5&IN=2;11;7&IA=2;7;7&KS=2;6;9&KY=2;8;7&LA=1;9;9&MD=1;10;7&MA=1;12;7&MI=0;17;5&MN=2;10;3&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;7&NH=2;4;7&NJ=1;15;5&NM=0;5;5&NY=1;31;9&NC=2;15;7&ND=2;3;9&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;9&OR=0;7;5&PA=2;21;3&RI=1;4;9&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;9&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;9&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;7&WV=2;5;7&WI=0;10;5&WY=2;3;9&ME=2;2;3&ME1=2;1;3&ME2=2;1;3&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Bush/Cheney (R): 309 EVs
Kerry/Vilsack (D): 159 EVs
Nader/Camejo (I): 0 EVs
Tossup: 70 EVs

BUT THEN NADER RAN ADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2000&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;3&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;8;7&AR=3;6;3&CA=1;54;6&CO=2;8;3&CT=3;8;3&DE=3;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;22;5&IN=2;12;5&IA=3;7;3&KS=3;6;3&KY=3;8;3&LA=3;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;6&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=3;7;3&MO=1;11;6&MT=3;3;3&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=3;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=3;33;3&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;23;5&RI=3;4;3&SC=3;8;3&SD=3;3;3&TN=2;11;3&TX=1;32;6&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=2;13;5&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;3&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=3;2;3&ME1=3;1;3&ME2=3;1;3&NE=3;2;3&NE1=3;1;3&NE2=3;1;3&NE3=3;1;3)

Nader/Camejo (I): 217 EVs, 19.7% PV (!)
Kerry/Vilsack (D): 181 EVs, 42.9% PV
Bush/Cheney (R): 140 EVs, 37.4% PV

Congress, being the fascist Constitution-haters they are, elected Bush, despite the fact that he came in last and that they aren't allowed to do that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 03, 2007, 02:14:03 am
Celebrity Challenge 2004 -- Britney Spears/Freddie Prinze Junior (R) vs. Danny Glover/Michael Moore (D) (Me)

This one was a Classic. As per usual when I play the original President Forever, I don't run my commericals until the final two weeks of the campaign. With two weeks to go, the Democratic ticket of Danny Glover (Leathol Weapon Series) and Michael Moore (Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11) seemed to be going down the track of Mondale/Ferraro '84. That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

As the campaign went into it's final phase, the major battleground states (California, Arizona, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Maine, Nevada and New Mexico) were all neck and neck. But by election night it was a narrow win for..........

(http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/glover/glover_1.jpg)
Danny Glover has been elected 44th President of the United States!!!!!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

The major details

Danny Glover/Michael Moore (D): 51% (64,660,493) 292 EV's
Britney Spears/Freddie Prinze Junior (R): 48% (59,745,153) 246 EV's

Boy that was GOOD!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 03, 2007, 02:33:50 am
That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

Was every ad attacking integrity?  Because if so, all but one of those ads were actually completely useless - you can't "double up" on a single issue; the impact of multiple ads on the same topic is simply that of the ad with the highest power.

There's also the issue that you can only capitalize on an opponent's negative momentum if you yourself have positive momentum, thereby stealing the voters that are shaved off by the other guy's freefall.  If both of you are in the negative, the impact is nowhere near as strong.

Whenever I make ads, I always make them half on my positives, and half on the other guy's negatives, and always make each ad on a different subject to maximize the benefit reaped from them.

Just a little friendly advice on the inner mechanics of the game. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 03, 2007, 02:47:41 am
That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

Was every ad attacking integrity?  Because if so, all but one of those ads were actually completely useless - you can't "double up" on a single issue; the impact of multiple ads on the same topic is simply that of the ad with the highest power.

There's also the issue that you can only capitalize on an opponent's negative momentum if you yourself have positive momentum, thereby stealing the voters that are shaved off by the other guy's freefall.  If both of you are in the negative, the impact is nowhere near as strong.

Whenever I make ads, I always make them half on my positives, and half on the other guy's negatives, and always make each ad on a different subject to maximize the benefit reaped from them.

Just a little friendly advice on the inner mechanics of the game. :)

However, I did make about 2 commericals infavor of Danny Glover on Leadership and Integrity. If you want to know I why I attacked Britney on her integrity, that's because of her recent fall-outs, such as her going in and out of rehab, dropping her baby, marrying K-FedX and yada-yada-yada.

But usually, when I'm playing properly, I usually start off with my views on the issues. For instance, when I was playing as Governor Bill Richardson against former Massachussets Governor Mitt Romney, I heavily focused the campaign on Richardson's energy plans. Modified my position on the Iraq War and then with 2 weeks to go, I pounded Romney on Iraq. But it was no use, I lost the presidency by losing Ohio and Arizona, but I won the popular vote by some 1.5 percent.

Thanks for the advice anyway SoFA Gabu.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Pope Michael Bolton on March 03, 2007, 05:41:02 pm
Dean/Clark (me) vs. Bush/Cheney vs. the libertarian guy (grey on this map)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=1;55;3&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;7&GA=1;15;7&HI=2;4;4&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;7&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;7&MD=2;10;7&MA=2;12;7&MI=1;17;7&MN=2;10;7&MS=1;6;7&MO=1;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=1;5;7&NH=1;4;7&NJ=2;15;7&NM=1;5;7&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;7&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;7&PA=1;21;7&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;7&SD=2;3;7&TN=1;11;7&TX=0;34;3&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;7&VA=2;13;7&WA=1;11;7&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;7&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Popular vote: 46-45-9 Dean, I think



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 03, 2007, 10:00:51 pm
However, I did make about 2 commericals infavor of Danny Glover on Leadership and Integrity. If you want to know I why I attacked Britney on her integrity, that's because of her recent fall-outs, such as her going in and out of rehab, dropping her baby, marrying K-FedX and yada-yada-yada.

Oh, I thought you meant you were running the maximum number of ads simultaneously and that they were all "Integrity / Attacking Spears".  If you were combining them with positive ads about yourself, then that's good, in that case.

Dean/Clark (me) vs. Bush/Cheney vs. the libertarian guy (grey on this map)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;7&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;7&CA=1;55;3&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;7&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;7&GA=1;15;7&HI=2;4;4&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=1;11;4&IA=1;7;7&KS=2;6;7&KY=2;8;7&LA=2;9;7&MD=2;10;7&MA=2;12;7&MI=1;17;7&MN=2;10;7&MS=1;6;7&MO=1;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=1;5;7&NH=1;4;7&NJ=2;15;7&NM=1;5;7&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;7&OK=1;7;5&OR=2;7;7&PA=1;21;7&RI=1;4;7&SC=1;8;7&SD=2;3;7&TN=1;11;7&TX=0;34;3&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;7&VA=2;13;7&WA=1;11;7&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;7&WY=1;3;5&ME=1;2;7&ME1=1;1;7&ME2=1;1;7&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Popular vote: 46-45-9 Dean, I think

This game seems to have a serious problem in making every single state go for one candidate by over 60%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on March 04, 2007, 03:44:15 am
So... Started out running as Gore, won the ALL of the first primaries (normally then all of the others would go in the same way), by the time that the convention came Gore was short about 60 delegates of securing the nomination, Clinton had about 200 less than Gore and Biden had the rest, somehow ALL of Biden's delegates but about 1 or 2 went to Clinton and she won. I then continued the election with Clinton and almost the whole time was in the lead, especially towards the end. The Republican nominee was Gingrich (who too had fewer delegates than another nominee going into the convention).
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;4&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;6&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;6&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=1;8;4&SD=1;3;4&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Electoral vote:
Clinton: 417
Gingrich: 121

Popular Vote:
Clinton: 64,211,929
Gingrich: 47,244,698
Badnarik: 3,279,313
Pertouka: 3,731,078

Closest state: Texas with a Clinton win of 1.6%

The odd thing with the end election results was that the Pacific states were all above 60% for Clinton...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 12, 2007, 10:47:31 pm
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term. At a decisive 1944 Democratic Convnetion, Vice-President Wallace wins the Democratic nod. MacArthur selects Governor Earl Warren of California as his number two man while Wallace selects Senator Claude Pepper of Florida for Veep.

The results after a demoralized Democratic Campaign (including a power 22 scandal on Wallace):

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1944&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=1;11;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;9;5&CA=2;25;6&CO=2;6;6&CT=2;8;7&DE=2;3;6&FL=2;8;5&GA=1;12;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=2;28;6&IN=2;13;7&IA=2;10;7&KS=2;8;8&KY=2;11;6&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;8&MD=2;8;7&MA=2;16;7&MI=2;19;8&MN=2;11;6&MS=2;9;5&MO=2;15;7&MT=2;4;7&NE=2;6;8&NV=2;3;6&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;16;5&NM=2;4;6&NY=2;47;7&NC=2;14;6&ND=2;4;8&OH=2;25;7&OK=2;10;5&OR=2;6;7&PA=2;35;7&RI=2;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;9&TN=2;12;6&TX=2;23;6&UT=2;4;7&VT=2;3;8&VA=2;11;6&WA=2;8;7&WV=2;8;6&WI=2;12;8&WY=2;3;8)

Douglas MacArthur/Earl Warren (R): 489 Electoral Votes, 69% (41,483,011) of the popular vote

Henry Wallace/Claude "Red" Pepper (D): 42 Electoral Votes, 30% (18,183,256) of the popular vote

A second Iowan down in flames in only 12-years. :(

 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 12, 2007, 11:13:03 pm
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 13, 2007, 12:16:33 am
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on March 14, 2007, 12:35:07 am
Played as Gore in primaries, lost to Clinton by 8 delegates (Only reason being that the week before the convention Biden endorsed Clinton). So then played as Clinton and was basically tied until an ad blitz on the last week.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Guiliani: 41%
Clinton: 51%
Badnarik:4%
Pertouka: 4%

Basically it was a Clinton landslide, which suprised me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 14, 2007, 07:06:39 pm
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 14, 2007, 07:20:25 pm
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)

I think many would say he already did. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 14, 2007, 09:21:48 pm
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)

I think many would say he already did. :P

One... two... oops, I need a massive federal program in order to keep going :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on March 23, 2007, 02:02:16 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

me: Giuliani/Owens
vs.
Clinton/Biden

This game needs serious work.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 24, 2007, 01:34:09 am
Edwards/Clark against Giuliani/Romney. Pretty realistic result:

Edwards 288 - Giuliani 250
Edwards 50.4% - Giuliani 49.6%

(http://www.uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;6&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on March 29, 2007, 04:02:37 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;3&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bush: 42,340,548 (34%/272 EV)
Kerry: 42,302,039 (33%/252 EV)
Buchanan: 38,269,774 (30%/14 EV)
Nolan: 1,526,719 (1%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 31, 2007, 04:40:22 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;4&AZ=2;8;3&AR=1;6;4&CA=1;54;4&CO=2;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;25;3&GA=2;13;3&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=2;12;3&IA=1;7;3&KS=2;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=1;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=2;7;3&MO=2;11;3&MT=2;3;3&NV=2;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=2;5;3&NY=1;33;4&NC=2;14;3&ND=2;3;4&OH=2;21;3&OK=2;8;3&OR=1;7;3&PA=1;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=2;8;3&SD=2;3;3&TN=1;11;3&TX=2;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=1;3;3&VA=2;13;3&WA=1;11;3&WV=2;5;3&WI=2;11;3&WY=2;3;4&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;4&NE1=2;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Bush: 42,340,548 (34%/272 EV)
Kerry: 42,302,039 (33%/252 EV)
Buchanan: 38,269,774 (30%/14 EV)
Nolan: 1,526,719 (1%)

I'm surprised Buchanan didn't win more states with that popular vote result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Great Again Again: The Shutdown To End All Shutdowns on April 13, 2007, 10:09:42 am
2008: Clinton/Richardson vs. Giuliani/Owens


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;6&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;6&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;6&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;6)


Clinton
PV: 53.1%
EV: 369

Giuliani
PV: 44.5%
EV: 169

Badnarik
PV: 1.5%
EV: 0

Peroutka
PV: 0.8%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 14, 2007, 09:38:09 pm
Perot's Revenge- 2004!

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1992&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=3;3;4&AZ=3;8;3&AR=3;6;3&CA=1;54;3&CO=3;8;3&CT=1;8;3&DE=1;3;3&DC=1;3;5&FL=3;25;3&GA=2;13;4&HI=1;4;3&ID=2;4;4&IL=1;22;3&IN=3;12;3&IA=3;7;3&KS=3;6;3&KY=2;8;3&LA=2;9;3&MD=1;10;3&MA=1;12;4&MI=3;18;3&MN=3;10;3&MS=3;7;3&MO=3;11;3&MT=3;3;4&NV=3;4;3&NH=3;4;3&NJ=1;15;3&NM=3;5;3&NY=1;33;3&NC=3;14;3&ND=3;3;4&OH=3;21;3&OK=3;8;3&OR=3;7;3&PA=3;23;3&RI=1;4;4&SC=3;8;3&SD=3;3;3&TN=3;11;3&TX=3;32;3&UT=2;5;4&VT=3;3;3&VA=3;13;3&WA=3;11;3&WV=3;5;4&WI=3;11;3&WY=2;3;3&ME=1;2;3&ME1=1;1;3&ME2=1;1;3&NE=2;2;3&NE1=2;1;3&NE2=2;1;3&NE3=2;1;3)

Ross Perot/Tom Golisano (Reform): 312 Electoral Votes; 35% (44,232,207) of the popular vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 168 Electoral Votes; 32% (40,340,930) of the popular vote

George W. Bush/Richard Cheney (R): 58 Electoral Votes, 32% (39,981,087) of the popular vote

Nearly every state was decided by less than 5,000 votes. Washington was decided by 3 votes! However, H. Ross Perot is in the White House, now the "sucking" of NAFTA can end! Also, Air Force One is going to be sold and the State of the Union will be given with pie charts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 23, 2007, 08:50:31 pm
I let myself loose.

I had a very tight primary campaign, where I managed to wrestle the nomination from Clinton after making a deal with Edwards the week before the convention.

I placed myself as the Governor of Pennsylvania, and selected Mark Warner as my running mate. The Reps selected Gingrich/Sanford.

It was a tightish race to begin with, but I pushed hard on his integrity and won all three debates.

On election night this was the result.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;7&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;7&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 379 EV - 70,678,910 - 55.6%
Gingrich/Sanford - 159 - 56,439,225 - 44.4%

- Yes I did get 70% in CA, 70.8% in fact.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 24, 2007, 01:22:47 am
Today I just played as New York Mayor, Michael Bloomberg in his independent candidacy in 2008.

The Democratic ticket was Senator Christopher Dodd and former Governor Mark Warner.

The Republican ticket was former Governor Mitt Romeny and Senator Chuck Hagel.

The election was quite close between Dodd and Romney for the first four weeks, until Romney launched a massive attack add campaign, against Dodd in key sign states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois, Pennsylvania, Washington, Oregon and New Hampshire.

In the end the election turned out like this:

(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4416/romneyhagel369evdoddwarht0.png) (http://imageshack.us)

Romney/Hagel 50,646,055 369 EV 49.7%
Dodd/Warner 43,626,722 169 EV 42.8%
Bloomberg/Zinni 7,694,373 0 EV 7.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Duke on May 16, 2007, 03:30:32 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=2;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=1;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=1;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=1;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)

Obama/Richardson 52.9%
Romney/Allen 47.1%

Electoral college landslidee because I won the southern and western states by small margins.  This election would basically realign the country, driving the black vote and latino vote through the roof to put the south and west in play.

And the best part is, I was about to concede the primaries right after Super Tuesday, which did not going well at all, to Hillary and offer my endorsement if she took me as VP.  Then Edwards drops out and endorses me, and I get the boost I needed to keep going.  The contest came down to the final primary, which I believe was New Jersey.  Hillary being a snippy witch that she is didn't drop out until the convention, which I won by 21 delegates.  I leave my convention down 4% to Romney, and go on to win anyway thanks to the 50 foot soldiers I had on election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 16, 2007, 06:09:40 pm
How did you set yours up like that, Rockefeller Republican?

When you're starting a game, you should be able to select which parties you have turned on and off at the first page after selecting the scenario.  You can also turn primaries off, which enables you to simply select the candidates after that page.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Duke on May 22, 2007, 01:13:21 am
I created a custom candidate and picked out a picture for him, but I can't get the game to set the picture as the candidate's photo.  It tells me the bitmap image is not valid.  WTF does that mean?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 22, 2007, 01:42:28 am
I created a custom candidate and picked out a picture for him, but I can't get the game to set the picture as the candidate's photo.  It tells me the bitmap image is not valid.  WTF does that mean?

Did you save the picture as a ".bmp" file?  Other picture formats won't work.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 23, 2007, 11:48:05 pm
How did you set yours up like that, Rockefeller Republican?

When you're starting a game, you should be able to select which parties you have turned on and off at the first page after selecting the scenario.  You can also turn primaries off, which enables you to simply select the candidates after that page.

Yes, I've done that, but he has the territories as part of his...

First of all, I'm sorry for the long wait in response to your question, Ohio4Phillies. I got the scenario send to me from a guy off the 80soft forum (which is now defunct). I can get a copy of it and put it on the forum so you guys can download it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 12, 2007, 05:00:06 am
Again I ran as my socially liberal/economic moderate self from PA.

Another NASTY NASTY primary battle with Clinton ending with Richardson finally endorsing me. Given that I was at 2075 votes only 10 or so short.

Anyway the Reps were Huckabee/Owen - I chose Bayh as my VP candidate.

I flew out of the gates leading him 43 - 39 after 2 weeks. But things tightened around week 5 with him pulling up to a virtual tie at 46-47. But I ran a massive pull of ads in the last few days opened up several states including IN.

Final polls were
- Me, 50.3
- Huckabee 47.1

It ended like this
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;3&AR=1;6;3&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;3&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=1;17;3&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;3&NH=1;4;3&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;3&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;3&OK=2;7;5&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;3&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;5)

Those shaded light were the battleground states.

Polnut/Bayh - 340 EV - 66, 038, 544 - 53.6%
Huckabee/Owens - 198 - 57, 189, 901 - 46.4%

The closest state was Huckabee's own state of AR which I won by 256 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 16, 2007, 10:49:16 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=1&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=2;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=1;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=1;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=1;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=2;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=1;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=1;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=1;2;6&NE1=1;1;6&NE2=1;1;6&NE3=1;1;7)

John Edwards/Russ Feingold (D) 304 EV 45.1%
Mike Huckabee/Mitt Romney (R) 234 EV 43.7%
Mike Bloomberg/Anthony Zinni (I) 0 EV 7.6%
Steve Kubby/George Phillies (L) 0 EV 3.6%

This was a race I could have easily won, but I easily lost it even thought election eve polls were predicting I would win Pennsylvania and Arizona (which would have won me the election!). And somehow on election day eve, Kubby and Bloomberg managed to get an extra 2%!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on June 17, 2007, 12:42:51 am
My first game with primaries was very interesting and pretty dang fun. I decided to play as Mitt Romney. I started off neck and neck with Thompson for 3rd place with Giuliani and McCain infront.

I quickly focused on Iowa and California trying to find scandals on Giuliani and Romney won the Iowa Caucus. Rudy wins NH. I save my scandals and negative ads for the 2 days before Super Tuesday. I do very well and win California and quite a few others and am ahead in the votes. Essentially I was in control essentially whenever a candidate would drop out their votes would go to me. I had the thing locked up once it was just Romney and Giuliani. Giuliani though just wouldn't drop out and he was way out in front of me in the polls. Thus, I decided why not make him VP. He accepted.

On the Democratic side there was still an all out war Clinton, Edwards and Obama (in that order) had a very even 3 way split. The day of their convention came around Obama dropped out more of his delegates went to Edwards than Clinton but Clinton still was victorious. Clinton selected Feingold as her veep.

At the beginning of the elections it looked like I was in control even CA and IL were undecided.

The Debates broke down like this
Romney Triumphs
Feingold Wins
Clinton Wins
Romney Wins

Clinton struggled on the Daily Show
Romney shined on the Daily Show
Romney makes good impression on O'Reilly
Clinton tackles questions on O'Reilly
Clinton shines on Dailly Show
Romney tackles questions on Oprah (???)

Giuliani was working too hard though since he collapsed on the campaign trail 3 times.

Finally the election is a week away. I have a number of scandals and ads stashed away but Clinton is doing very well and seems to have the thing locked up. 3 days before the election I unleash my scandals and ads nationwide. But the first day theres a pretty big Romney Scandal (ouch). Then it fades away and the Clinton scandal is number one. Still going into election night things looked bad for Romney some Southern states were going Dem and Hillary had a firm lead in the Electoral college unless the public changed there mind in less than one day.

Election night comes and the results are spectacular.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=2;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Romney/Giuliani 377 EVS   65,343,106 votes 55.8%
Clinton/Feingold 161 EVS   51,845,475 votes 44.2%

All I have to say is that was a blast. I like what they've done with the game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 24, 2007, 09:14:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=1;3;4&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=1;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Popular vote was:
Richardson: 49.6%
Romney: 41.6%
Third parties (liberatarian and Constitution): 8.2%

This was a normal campaign until the last three days, then all hell broke loose... The fact that the south was so close (almost every state in the south was won by less than 2%, most going to Romney) suprised me. Many of the other states were odd too, like Utah only 40% for Romney? (though he still won by about 25% because the 3rd parties did really well there). Also Romney winning Vermont was odd, but oh well, maybe a mormon running would just skew the results a bunch.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 24, 2007, 09:15:25 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=1;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;4&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=2;4;4&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;5&KY=2;8;4&LA=2;9;4&MD=1;10;4&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;4&MT=1;3;4&NV=1;5;4&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;4&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;4&ND=1;3;4&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;4&TN=2;11;4&TX=1;34;4&UT=2;5;4&VT=2;3;4&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;4&WV=2;5;4&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;4&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=2;1;4&NE=2;2;4&NE1=1;1;4&NE2=2;1;4&NE3=2;1;5)

Popular vote was:
Richardson: 49.6%
Romney: 41.6%
Third parties (liberatarian and Constitution): 8.2%

This was a normal campaign until the last three days, then all hell broke loose... The fact that the south was so close (almost every state in the south was won by less than 2%, most going to Romney) suprised me. Many of the other states were odd too, like Utah only 40% for Romney? (though he still won by about 25% because the 3rd parties did really well there). Also Romney winning Vermont was odd, but oh well, maybe a mormon running would just skew the results a bunch.

Oh yes and electoral vote:
Richardson: 335
Romney: 206


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 26, 2007, 12:33:02 am
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;7&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;7&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;4&HI=1;4;6&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;7&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=1;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;6&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;6&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;6&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;4&OR=1;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=2;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;8&TX=1;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;6&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6)

Gore vs Romney: Republicans were so angry after the primary that they endorsed Gore... so there was a bit of a landslide, only state that truly doesnt make sense is Rhode Island, but oh well.
Pop vote:
Gore: 58%
Romney: 37%
Liberatarian: 5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 28, 2007, 09:31:58 am
This was a nail-biter.

It was Me/Warner vs Giuliani/Sanford.

I got hit by three big scandals in weeks 4 and 5, so I was knocked from a 42 -40 lead to being beaten 44 - 41.

I pushed hard, and got my reward when I went up 12% in GA and 9% in FL. The W.Mississippi corridor opened up for me, but I started to get a flogging in states like PA, OH and OR. This was largely due to the presence of both a libertarian and the constitution candidates.

This was the state of the race before election day.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=0;10;5&AR=0;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=0;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=0;27;5&GA=0;15;5&HI=0;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=0;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=0;8;5&LA=0;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=0;11;5&MT=0;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=0;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=0;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=0;7;5&PA=0;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=0;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=0;5;5&WI=0;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 205
Giuliani/Sanford - 133
Toss Up - 200

The final result was this.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;5&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;4&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;6&DC=1;3;9&FL=1;27;4&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;6&IA=1;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;7&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;4&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;7&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;5&OR=2;7;4&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;6&SD=2;3;6&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;6&VT=1;3;7&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;4&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 339 - 48.8%
Giuliani/Sanford - 199 - 48.3%
Constitution - 2%
Libertarian - 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 28, 2007, 01:51:29 pm
I WANT PRESIDENT FOREVER!!!!!!!!! Really, it looks great.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 28, 2007, 02:24:43 pm
Does anyone have any screenshots from Campaigns forever? I downloaded it, but haven't gotten the chance to play it cause I haven't been home in over a week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 29, 2007, 06:43:59 am
Last night was the first night in a while I got home, so I decided to play a few games. I'll post two of the oddest ones.

The first game, It was a three way tie bewteen McCain, Giuliani, and Thompson for the nomination for the Republicans. Somehow, Paul came out of nowhere, and won handidly. (I'm as confused as most of you on that one)

For the Democrats, it was between Warner and Clinton, than Edwards gained the big Mo, and just clinched it from Warner.

I don't know why the Republicans chose Paul, it wasn't the best choice.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=1;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=1;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=1;11;5&IA=1;7;6&KS=2;6;6&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=1;3;5&NV=1;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;6&NY=1;31;5&NC=1;15;5&ND=1;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=1;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=1;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Edwards/Kerry 492  56%
Paul/Allen 46 34%
Me/Huckabee 10%

 I played as myself as a third party candidate. When it came down to seeing who the nominees were, I decided to sit back and watch it explode, because it was pretty even in the start of the general. I still managed to get about 10% of the vote, and came in second to many southern states that Edwards won, a distant second at that.

The second was McCain and Biden. Biden took the lead in the primary early, as did McCain, and they never looked back.

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=2;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=2;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=2;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;6&NY=2;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Yup..

McCain/Pataki 524  62%
Biden/Feingold 14  24%
Me/Huckabee 0 14%

 I again did't play as well as I could have, because I forgot to give myself much money.  The oddest thing was Biden won D.C. with 44%, to McCains 36% and me getting 20%

  Wow, just wow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 29, 2007, 06:47:33 am
You bought the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 29, 2007, 07:39:32 am
A long time ago, yeah. I haven't played the game in over a month.  I recently bought the Campaigns one, but haven't had the chance to create anything with it yet.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on July 01, 2007, 11:39:44 pm
(http://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=1&pv_p=1&ev_p=1&type=calc&AL=2;9;4&AK=2;3;5&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;4&CA=1;55;6&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;4&DC=1;3;8&FL=1;27;5&GA=2;15;4&HI=1;4;7&ID=2;4;5&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;4&IA=1;7;4&KS=1;6;4&KY=1;8;4&LA=1;9;4&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;4&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;4&NV=1;5;4&NH=1;4;4&NJ=1;15;7&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;7&NC=1;15;4&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;4&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;6&TX=2;34;4&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;4&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;5&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=1;2;4&NE1=1;1;4&NE2=1;1;4&NE3=2;1;4)

Gore vs Romney:
Popular vote:
Gore/Edwards: 56%
Romney/?: 36%
Right wing 3rd Parties (constitution and liberatarian): 10%

Electoral college: sorry I forgot, it was something like:
Gore: 380
Romney 100 and something...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 05, 2007, 09:54:52 pm
Jim Gilmore vs. Hillary Clinton, 2008

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2004&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;7&AZ=2;10;7&AR=2;6;6&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;6&CT=1;7;5&DE=2;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;7&GA=2;15;6&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;7&IL=1;21;6&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;6&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;7&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;5&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;6&MS=2;6;7&MO=2;11;7&MT=2;3;7&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=2;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;6&ND=2;3;7&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;7&OR=2;7;6&PA=2;21;6&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;7&SD=2;3;7&TN=2;11;7&TX=2;34;7&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;7&WA=2;11;5&WV=2;5;6&WI=2;10;6&WY=2;3;7&ME=1;2;6&ME1=1;1;6&ME2=1;1;6&NE=2;2;7&NE1=2;1;7&NE2=2;1;7&NE3=2;1;7)

Jim Gilmore/Duncan Hunter (R): 439 Electoral Votes, 59% (74,045,525) of the Popular Vote

Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson (D): 99 Electoral Votes, 40% (50,374,869) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 11, 2007, 03:05:34 am
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;11;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;3;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;27;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;10;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=2;8;3&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;4&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 11, 2007, 03:26:18 am
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;11;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;3;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;27;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;10;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=2;8;3&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;4&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)

Rocky, weren't you supposed to send a few of us the President Forever file?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 12, 2007, 02:09:24 am
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=1960&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=1;11;5&AK=1;3;5&AZ=2;4;5&AR=1;8;5&CA=1;32;5&CO=2;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&FL=1;10;5&GA=2;12;6&HI=1;3;5&ID=1;4;5&IL=1;27;4&IN=2;13;5&IA=2;10;5&KS=2;8;6&KY=2;10;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=2;5;5&MD=1;9;5&MA=1;16;6&MI=1;20;5&MN=1;11;5&MS=2;8;3&MO=1;13;5&MT=2;4;5&NE=2;6;6&NV=1;3;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;16;4&NM=1;4;5&NY=2;45;5&NC=2;14;5&ND=2;4;5&OH=2;25;5&OK=2;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;32;5&RI=1;4;6&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;4;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;24;5&UT=2;4;5&VT=2;3;5&VA=2;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;8;5&WI=2;12;5&WY=2;3;5)

Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)

Rocky, weren't you supposed to send a few of us the President Forever file?

Don't worry Hashemite. Have patience my friend. Anyway this is from the original President Forever. 80soft were to dodgy not to make one with the 1960 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WiseGuy on July 12, 2007, 10:53:10 am
Kinda off topic, but does anyone know why they got rid of the ability to hold fund raisers during the General Election?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 14, 2007, 01:38:23 am
George W. Bush vs. Al Sharpton (ME)

I just rushed through the game, not releasing my commericals until the final 2 days of the campaign. This is how the networks predicted the 2004 Presidential Election:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=2;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

George W. Bush (R) 417 EV 54%
Al Sharpton (D) 117 EV 46%

The 2004 Presidential Election ended up being a George W. Bush victory, however the popular vote was very close with Bush recieving 50% Sharpton 49%. I somehow won Bush's homestate of Texas!  This is how the elected ended up turning like:

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=1&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=2;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=2;17;5&MN=2;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=2;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=2;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=1;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=2;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=2;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=2;2;5&ME1=2;1;5&ME2=2;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 318 Electoral Votes, 50% (62,239,990)
Al Sharpton/Howard Dean (D): 220 Electoral Votes, 49% (61,940,041)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 14, 2007, 06:55:37 am
Again - yet another nasty primary battle with Clinton, she went all the way to the convention evn though I had 300+ more delegates than I needed. I chose Warner to be my running mate, and Reps selected a Romney/Allen - so in the battle of the Virginian VP noms - who would deliver the state. During the campaign Romney was no closer than 4% behind.

FINAL RESULT

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 359 EV  71,305,368  55.8%
Romney/Allen - 179 EV  56,487,938  44.2%

For your information.
VIRGINIA
Polnut/Warner - 1,704,843  52.5%
Romney/Allen - 1,544,366  47.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 18, 2007, 03:29:23 am
So between Clinton and myself - who would do best against Fred Thompson?

RESULTS

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=2;9;5&CT=2;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=1;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=2;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=2;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=2;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=2;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Clinton/Warner - 252 EV 49%
Thompson/Sanford - 286 EV 48%
Badnarik/?  1.9%
Petrouka/?  1.1%


(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=0&ev_p=0&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=2;10;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;55;5&CO=1;9;5&CT=1;7;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;8&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;5&IA=2;7;4&KS=2;6;6&KY=2;8;5&LA=2;9;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=2;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=2;5;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;4&NY=1;31;5&NC=2;15;5&ND=2;3;6&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;6&UT=2;5;7&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;5&WV=1;5;5&WI=1;10;4&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 321 EV 53.3%
Thompson/Sanford - 217 EV 43.7%
Badnarik/? 2.1%
Petrouka/? 0.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Man From G.O.P. on July 18, 2007, 04:02:56 am
Again - yet another nasty primary battle with Clinton, she went all the way to the convention evn though I had 300+ more delegates than I needed. I chose Warner to be my running mate, and Reps selected a Romney/Allen - so in the battle of the Virginian VP noms - who would deliver the state. During the campaign Romney was no closer than 4% behind.

FINAL RESULT

(http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/genusmap.php?year=2008&ev_c=0&pv_p=1&ev_p=0&type=calc&AL=2;9;6&AK=2;3;6&AZ=1;10;5&AR=2;6;5&CA=1;55;6&CO=2;9;5&CT=1;7;6&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;9&FL=2;27;5&GA=2;15;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=2;4;6&IL=1;21;5&IN=2;11;6&IA=2;7;5&KS=2;6;5&KY=1;8;5&LA=1;9;5&MD=1;10;6&MA=1;12;6&MI=1;17;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=2;6;5&MO=1;11;5&MT=2;3;5&NV=1;5;6&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;15;5&NM=1;5;5&NY=1;31;6&NC=1;15;5&ND=2;3;5&OH=1;20;5&OK=2;7;6&OR=1;7;5&PA=1;21;5&RI=1;4;7&SC=2;8;5&SD=2;3;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=2;34;5&UT=2;5;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;13;5&WA=1;11;6&WV=2;5;5&WI=1;10;5&WY=2;3;6&ME=1;2;5&ME1=1;1;5&ME2=1;1;5&NE=2;2;6&NE1=2;1;6&NE2=2;1;6&NE3=2;1;7)

Polnut/Warner - 359 EV  71,305,368  55.8%
Romney/Allen - 179 EV  56,487,938  44.2%

For your information.
VIRGINIA
Polnut/Warner - 1,704,843  52.5%
Romney/Allen - 1,544,366  47.5%


NO wai Mitt Romney loses Massachussettes you hacker.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 18, 2007, 05:08:13 am