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Title: ''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: afleitch on September 25, 2004, 05:47:53 AM How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president . http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html It's perfect Saturday reading material! Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 25, 2004, 05:50:44 AM Not really an election issue, but amusing anyways
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: jimrtex on September 25, 2004, 07:54:19 AM How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president . It's perfect Saturday reading material! It's interesting that they didn't link in Averill (and Pamela) Harriman to the story. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Tory on September 25, 2004, 08:17:54 AM This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Democratic Hawk on September 25, 2004, 08:44:45 AM This is to be expected from such a partisan rag. I think it works both ways. Dave Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Tory on September 25, 2004, 09:34:51 AM This is to be expected from such a partisan rag. I think it works both ways. Dave How do you mean? The Sun doesn't count, it isn't a newspaper. The Telegraph, The Times, or the Economist is never so blatantly biased and you know it. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: badnarikin04 on September 25, 2004, 04:20:34 PM Oh, so that's where Bush got his fascist qualities!
It runs in the family! Ba-dum-bum. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: agcatter on September 25, 2004, 06:14:00 PM So now the Bush family is responsible for Hitler.
LMAO Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 25, 2004, 06:31:51 PM So now the Bush family is responsible for Hitler. LMAO Actually, you should read about George Walker and Prescott Bush. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: agcatter on September 25, 2004, 07:02:57 PM The Nazi family connection was already tried against Arnold. Get a new playbook.
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 25, 2004, 09:33:48 PM The Nazi family connection was already tried against Arnold. Get a new playbook. Umm, there's plenty of evidence here. The Bush adminstration was forcefully stopped from trading military supplies with the enemy 10 months into WWII. The Bush family is a bunch of traitors. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: freedomburns on September 25, 2004, 09:44:03 PM The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers. They are war profiteers of the lowest order. This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Tory on September 25, 2004, 10:00:03 PM The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers. They are war profiteers of the lowest order. This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades. John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over £5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: jimrtex on September 26, 2004, 05:29:12 AM This is to be expected from such a partisan rag. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on September 26, 2004, 06:49:11 AM This is to be expected from such a partisan rag. I think it works both ways. Dave How do you mean? The Sun doesn't count, it isn't a newspaper. The Telegraph, The Times, or the Economist is never so blatantly biased and you know it. The Torygraph is :P Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: afleitch on September 26, 2004, 08:08:48 AM Next Republicans will be saying Kerry wants to construct a tunnel to the Vatican!
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 26, 2004, 02:43:21 PM The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers. They are war profiteers of the lowest order. This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades. John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over £5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people. According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Tory on September 26, 2004, 02:48:38 PM The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers. They are war profiteers of the lowest order. This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades. John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over £5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people. According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun. According to John Kerry's own reports on himself he cut off heads and burned villages. [Oh wait! He ACTUALLY said that!] Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 26, 2004, 02:57:42 PM The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers. They are war profiteers of the lowest order. This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades. John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over £5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people. According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun. According to John Kerry's own reports on himself he cut off heads and burned villages. [Oh wait! He ACTUALLY said that!] Yawn, no he didn't Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Tory on September 26, 2004, 03:11:26 PM Yes he did actually. Don't pay much attention to the news, eh?
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 26, 2004, 04:14:05 PM Yes he did actually. Don't pay much attention to the news, eh? He never said he did that. Read what he said more carefully. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: 12th Doctor on September 26, 2004, 04:27:36 PM Next Republicans will be saying Kerry wants to construct a tunnel to the Vatican! Oh, will we!?!? What a moronic thing for you to say, especially considering that I and most other praticing Catholics are Republicans. On the Converse side, a vast majority of non-practicing and indeed, those who show an open distain for the "faith they were baptized into" are staunch Democrats. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: J. J. on September 26, 2004, 04:30:21 PM Well, Kerry did claim to participate in "war crimes," in his own words.
Kerry's mother's family, the Forbes, trafficed in drugs for a while. Both of things are true and will note that saying both of these things this way, while technically true, are matters of spin. I don't think Kerry's "war crimes" or his family's "drug business" are relevent. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: 12th Doctor on September 26, 2004, 04:34:12 PM I just find it humorous that the DNC whines about the negativity of the Bush campaign and then they Kerry supporters come out with something as obviously vicious and unimportant to the current election as this.
Honestly, there is no attempt at all at any kind of intelletual honesty. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: J. J. on September 26, 2004, 04:47:22 PM Well, Kerry did claim to participate in "war crimes," in his own words. Kerry's mother's family, the Forbes, trafficed in drugs for a while. Both of things are true and will note that saying both of these things this way, while technically true, are matters of spin. I don't think Kerry's "war crimes" or his family's "drug business" are relevent. I'll scratch the word "war crimes" and insert the word "atrocities." :-) Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: TheWildCard on September 26, 2004, 04:56:29 PM *Yawn*
Been hearing about this for 3yrs now... It starts getting old. Bush isn't his Grandfather just like Swarzenegger isn't his father. My advice is get over it. Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: ATFFL on September 26, 2004, 05:48:39 PM Yes he did actually. Don't pay much attention to the news, eh? He never said he did that. Read what he said more carefully. Quote from: John Kerry There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals. Quote Kerry never said he took part in beheadings. He did say he took part in the burning of villages and other atrocities. He did say he acted contrary to the 'laws of warfare" and the Geneva convention. A shorter way of saying that is war crimes. http://hnn.us/articles/3552.html (http://hnn.us/articles/3552.html) Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: qwerty on September 27, 2004, 01:29:53 AM And John Kennedy's father was a law abiding citizen....
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: The Vorlon on September 27, 2004, 12:19:17 PM The US newspapers are just as biased as the Brit papers - the Brits are just honest about it.
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: afleitch on September 27, 2004, 12:35:42 PM My Vatican comment was to be taken in jest, (in reference of course to the infamous claims made against Alfred Smith in 1928) I myself am a practicing Catholic, so I wasn't taking a dig at faith either. Apologies for the confusion.
Title: Re:''How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power'' says the UK Guardian Post by: Mr. Fresh on September 27, 2004, 12:37:01 PM The US newspapers are just as biased as the Brit papers - the Brits are just honest about it. So are the US papers, they just point it out about different newspapers. ;) |