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Title: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Reaganfan on January 13, 2009, 06:27:08 AM
Well? Dare I say...Huckabee.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Brittain33 on January 13, 2009, 08:55:20 AM

He is the only one with any magic at all.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: TomC on January 13, 2009, 09:25:10 AM
Sanford...but he's gotta want it.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Reaganfan on January 13, 2009, 09:52:32 AM

I see Sanford as a lackluster candidate.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 13, 2009, 10:11:05 AM
LOL


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: RI on January 13, 2009, 10:12:04 AM
I honestly have to probably go with Romney. He is the only one I am concerned about at all as a Democrat. Huckabee, Jindal, and Palin are complete jokes.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on January 13, 2009, 10:46:08 AM
Huckabee or Romney.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 13, 2009, 10:58:28 AM
Huckabee electable? Hopefully not.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on January 13, 2009, 11:30:02 AM
     Romney.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: WalterMitty on January 13, 2009, 12:42:45 PM
what an awful bunch.

im still praying for susan collins.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Bacon King on January 13, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
I'm not sure he's the most electable on this list, but don't just quickly write off Jindal, guys. He's intelligent and a capable leader; if his organizational talent displays itself in his (hypothetical) presidential campaign then he could give Obama a run for his money.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 13, 2009, 12:58:18 PM
Crist, of course. Especially now that he has that beard.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: © tweed on January 13, 2009, 01:37:08 PM
it depends what you mean.  Crist or Romney might have the highest 'floor' although I think Jindal gives you the best chance to actually win.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 13, 2009, 01:45:53 PM
Wow, if this batch of jokes is the best the GOP can come up with...


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Torie on January 13, 2009, 02:14:35 PM
Huntsman is the  only one on the list who does not make me want to hold my nose, and some I cannot and will not vote for if they secure the nomination (absent some rather large and unexpected events transpiring).

Crist and Huntsman are the most electable. Which one is the most electable of those on the list I guess turns out how an autopsy of Crist's sex life turns out. The cupboard is pretty thin isn't it?


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on January 13, 2009, 02:19:31 PM
Wow, if this batch of jokes is the best the GOP can come up with...

It isn't. There are alot of Republican that could be Obama if he doesnt do that well. But most of them people will never win the primary. For Ex. Sen. Collins or Sen. Snowe could win, but they are to far left for the base.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 13, 2009, 02:22:04 PM
I'm not sure he's the most electable on this list, but don't just quickly write off Jindal, guys. He's intelligent and a capable leader; if his organizational talent displays itself in his (hypothetical) presidential campaign then he could give Obama a run for his money.
Protestant africans such as Obama are a tad less foreign than south asian catholics like Jindal. The only way Jindal could give Obama a run for his money would be if obama messes up.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Scam of God on January 13, 2009, 02:34:43 PM
Jindal is a dunce, regardless of his quota-fied level of education. The man wouldn't be able to make it out of the primaries; if he did, you'd see the entire Appalachian region move into toss-up range posthaste.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 13, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
Nope. Jindal is the best candidate for backwoods fundies.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Scam of God on January 13, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
Nope. Jindal is the best candidate for backwoods fundies.

Ideologically, sure. But stuck with a choice between a black and a Punjab, they aren't going to turn out and Jindal will lose.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 13, 2009, 02:42:03 PM
You overestimate their racism in this case.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Tender Branson on January 13, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
Probably Romney ...

Romney is a good candidate when the economy is bad (which was 2008), or so it was said.

But in late 2012, I think the US economy will be growing again by at least 2-3%.

And Romney is also a uncharismatic dog-abusing creep, with lots of money.

Huckabee is a Poor, McCain an Old and Palin a Retard ...

The GOP now has about 3 years to come up with a young, charismatic candidate with a coherent message who can raise 500 Mio. to 1 Bio. $ to challenge Obama. Otherwise Obama gets reelected.

Maybe Rick Perry should run ... ?


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on January 13, 2009, 02:46:51 PM
Probably Romney ...

Romney is a good candidate when the economy is bad (which was 2008), or so it was said.

But in late 2012, I think the US economy will be growing again by at least 2-3%.

And Romney is also a uncharismatic dog-abusing creep, with lots of money.

Huckabee is a Poor, McCain an Old and Palin a Retard ...

The GOP now has about 3 years to come up with a young, charismatic candidate with a coherent message who can raise 500 Mio. to 1 Bio. $ to challenge Obama. Otherwise Obama gets reelected.

Maybe Rick Perry should run ... ?

The problem is there isn't any young Repubican that could do that go toe-to-toe with Obama in 2012. Republicans really need to look at 2016, not 2012. Because unless Obama screws up very badly he will get re-elected.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Bacon King on January 13, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
Nope. Jindal is the best candidate for backwoods fundies.

Ideologically, sure. But stuck with a choice between a black and a Punjab, they aren't going to turn out and Jindal will lose.

Not saying this is quite a direct comparison, but Louisiana does have the Punjab as its governor even though they voted against the black.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 13, 2009, 04:58:53 PM
If the economy is still struggling, Mitt Romney will become President.
If we get into a war, I expect a Republican, possibly Thune. We'll have to put someone up with foreign policy experience.
Obama will have to have a clean 4 years to win. A lot of people, especially youth, voted for him on more personal reasons. Once they see that he might not be the leader he said he would be, they will easily be able to dump him...
In the future...Aaron Schock. He's going to be the next Reagen.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 13, 2009, 05:19:10 PM
Other: Chuck Hagel.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Holmes on January 13, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
Thune?

Ha.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on January 13, 2009, 06:03:39 PM

I agree! Huckabee 2012!!


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: jwells12345 on January 13, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Well, I say Jindal. As an independent, my voice is quite important in these matters.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Keystone Phil on January 13, 2009, 06:22:06 PM
Well, I say Jindal. As an independent, my voice is quite important in these matters.

Jindal's a wingnut that would be torn apart in a national election.  You can tell by how popular he is in Louisiana.

Mitt Romney's unpopularity everywhere else but solid fan base in Utah is obviously much better for a national election.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Verily on January 13, 2009, 06:24:06 PM
Huntsman. Mormonism mostly hurts him in the primaries, not the general. But he almost certainly could not make it out of the primaries (not for ideological incompatibility but for religion and split of Mormon money with Romney), so take from that what you will.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: © tweed on January 13, 2009, 06:43:17 PM
Well, I say Jindal. As an independent, my voice is quite important in these matters.

nobody's voice is important, at all.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on January 13, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Romney, Crist, and Hagel. Although I very much like Huckabee's personality.

To Make a Godlike Politician/Campaigner

Romney + Huckabee + A Dash of Hagel + 45th POTUS


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on January 13, 2009, 09:16:03 PM
Jindal
Romney
Thune
Huntsman
Palin

Those are the only five talked about candidates I could see being elected


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Mr. Morden on January 13, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Is it me, or does the conventional wisdom here on Romney seem to have turned upside down now that he's not running against Giuliani and McCain?



Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: TheresNoMoney on January 13, 2009, 11:00:01 PM

Agreed, just because he knows the most about economics (even if I disagree with him on most of his positions).


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 14, 2009, 01:48:00 AM
I think a lot of people seem to think all the racism in Louisiana against Jindal mysteriously disappeared between 2003 and 2007. It didn't. The guy still got 54% against an assortment of jokes. He was basically running unopposed, and still underperformed Bush and McCain.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Nixon in '80 on January 14, 2009, 02:21:10 AM
Is it me, or does the conventional wisdom here on Romney seem to have turned upside down now that he's not running against Giuliani and McCain?

It's not just you.

I think Romney is the most obvious choice right now, but in a few years that may change to Crist, Huntsman, Barbour (Lol) or Gingrich (even bigger LOL).

That's only of the options here, of course...

Other: Chuck Hagel, Colin Powell, a resurrected Abraham Lincoln... all are equally likely.

Actually, I'll throw out an "Other: Patraeus", which is more feasible, though not by much.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 14, 2009, 10:49:12 AM
I don't get why everyone's harping on Crist. I really don't think the gay issue is something that will get too much play, and if it does, only to the degree that the Obama is a Muslim lies got anywhere. Otherwise, he's a popular, moderate Governor of a swing state. However, he, like Jindal, will probably wait until 2016.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 14, 2009, 10:49:51 AM
I think a lot of people seem to think all the racism in Louisiana against Jindal mysteriously disappeared between 2003 and 2007. It didn't. The guy still got 54% against an assortment of jokes. He was basically running unopposed, and still underperformed Bush and McCain.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Daniel Z on January 14, 2009, 04:24:13 PM
I don't get why everyone's harping on Crist. I really don't think the gay issue is something that will get too much play, and if it does, only to the degree that the Obama is a Muslim lies got anywhere. Otherwise, he's a popular, moderate Governor of a swing state. However, he, like Jindal, will probably wait until 2016.
Unless he goes Ted Haggard on us it will not be an issue.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Rob on January 14, 2009, 06:35:15 PM
I voted for Romney as a joke, but after giving it a few seconds of thought I realized- wow. He really is the most electable person on the list! Ouch.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: paul718 on January 14, 2009, 06:47:03 PM
I voted for Romney as a joke, but after giving it a few seconds of thought I realized- wow. He really is the most electable person on the list! Ouch.

Romney is electable for the same reason Obama was electable, in my opinion. 


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 14, 2009, 08:01:38 PM
He's black, inspirational, young people love him, and he has a flawlessly-run, efficient, state of the art campaign apparatus? Not last time I checked, no...


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: paul718 on January 14, 2009, 08:07:26 PM
He's black, inspirational, young people love him, and he has a flawlessly-run, efficient, state of the art campaign apparatus? Not last time I checked, no...

He appears to be competent.

I guess I have a higher opinion of Obama voters than you, but oh well. 



Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on January 14, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
Competence really isn't something consider when they vote for President, unless the candidate clearly is not (see Palin, Sarah).


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: phk on January 14, 2009, 08:39:10 PM
Talk to me in 2012.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: panda_priest on January 15, 2009, 03:40:23 AM
Ron Paul


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 15, 2009, 11:14:55 AM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: perdedor on January 15, 2009, 11:46:16 AM

lol

If Perry is the Republican nominee for Governor of Texas in 2010, he should consider himself fortunate. With the wit of George W. Bush and the plastic persona of Mitt Romney, he would be disposed of quickly in a national primary.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 15, 2009, 11:52:51 AM

Why do you say that?  Huckabee has proved himself to be pretty moderate for a Baptist preacher.  I'm not sure if I would vote for him yet, but my initial impression of him based off his bio has proven wrong.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Matt Damon™ on January 15, 2009, 12:44:10 PM
Far too socially conservative and populist for me. Basically I'd never consider voting for a populist republican.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on January 15, 2009, 11:57:16 PM
Crist, Jindal, Huckabee


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: anvi on January 16, 2009, 12:23:49 AM
Crist and Romney are good candidates, and in either order, could make a good ticket together.  Either these two together in any order, or either candidate with Lindsey Graham at the bottom of the ticket, and we're looking at a competitive '12 race.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on January 17, 2009, 12:59:57 PM
Crist-Graham 2012


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: YRABNNRM on January 17, 2009, 01:10:10 PM

I see Sanford as a lackluster candidate.

The guy who you used to call "Reagan-esq?"


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on January 17, 2009, 10:28:51 PM
Romney and Crist. Hucky's base is limited to Evans, Sarah to Conservatives, Romney can compete for all of them and win some moderates to boot. Strength in the nations two swing areas the Midwest and West, Huge fundraising base. He has some problems. He's got to relate better to the average voter, he's got to combat the bigotry head on, and he needs to use a more flexible campaign strategy.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: paul718 on January 18, 2009, 01:10:25 PM
In terms of electability, I think it has to be Charlie Crist by far.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Rob on January 18, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
In terms of electability, I think it has to be Charlie Crist by far.

He's a sodomite.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: skoods on January 20, 2009, 09:50:47 PM
It's going to be someone out of left field, like Obama was.

In the end, almost anyone is electable in the right situation.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: perdedor on January 20, 2009, 10:23:07 PM
Provided that Obama's first term isn't a complete and utter disaster (quite doable in comparison to the previous two presidential terms) than the most electable Republican would likely be moderate, and by that I don't mean a pseudo-moderate like John McCain or (lawl) Mike Huckabee. It wouldn't necessarily need to be Lincoln Chafee...but you get the idea.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Eleanor Martins on January 22, 2009, 01:47:48 PM
None of these, it needs to be someone who's vaguely in the Rockefeller mould of Republicans, and it doesn't look as if anyone's a credible possibility if you take that as a basic assumption. Romney, if I'm pushed, but I can't imagine what an Obama-Romney voter would look like, his crossover appeal's limited.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Rob on January 22, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
I can't imagine what an Obama-Romney voter would look like

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Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on January 25, 2009, 10:10:50 PM
 Pence, Pawlenty, or Coleman


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Psychic Octopus on January 25, 2009, 10:39:13 PM
Romney, Sanford, Crist.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on January 25, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
Romney, then Crist, then Huckabee.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: TomC on January 26, 2009, 06:10:27 PM
In terms of electability, I think it has to be Charlie Crist by far.

He's a sodomite.

Maybe he'll "bring the Log Cabin Republicans home."


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: 12th Doctor on January 26, 2009, 07:43:28 PM
Wow, if this batch of jokes is the best the GOP can come up with...

Strange that I, myself, recall having said something very similar to that about the Democrats back in 2006.

Anyway, of that list, I sadly must admit that its probably Romney.

I'm not completely convinced that we are going to need the "most electable" candidate in order to win though.


Title: Re: Most electable 2012 Republican?
Post by: Nixon in '80 on January 26, 2009, 07:54:13 PM

Really? I know he isn't on the list, but more than Pawlenty?