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Atlas Fantasy Elections => Atlas Fantasy Government => Topic started by: King on September 27, 2004, 07:59:07 PM



Title: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on September 27, 2004, 07:59:07 PM
This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with a party platform and either five members or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: KEmperor on September 27, 2004, 08:07:11 PM
This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

What have the AFLP done that makes them organized and powerful?


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: Platypus on September 27, 2004, 08:45:11 PM
I second that this amendment be brought to consideration.


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on September 27, 2004, 08:47:29 PM
This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

What have the AFLP done that makes them organized and powerful?

Well the AFIP is organized and powerful. The LP is just organized...


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: 7,052,770 on September 27, 2004, 09:25:09 PM
I like it


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: Fritz on September 27, 2004, 09:59:36 PM
The and/or part makes this a little ambiguous.

In my opinion:

A party platform is definitely required in all cases.

Either having  5 members, or an elected official, should be the second requirement.  I think that federally appointed offices- cabinet, Supreme Court- should also qualify as an elected official.


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: Akno21 on September 28, 2004, 05:39:27 PM
This amendment to our Forum Constitution is hereby introduced by Senator King on September 27th, 2004.

The definition of an organized party as stated in Article V, Clause 6 shall be changed to:

Any political party with at least five members, a party platform, and/or an elected official is to be considered an organized political party.

I find the current recognition of an organized political party in our Constitution unfair, considering that the AFIP and AFLP parties are quite organized and powerful despite having less than ten members.

The AFIP is powerful but not organized, and the AFLP is organized but not powerful.

I have nothing against this amendment.


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on September 28, 2004, 06:13:24 PM
I took Fritz's recommendations and revised the amendment. :)


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on September 29, 2004, 06:27:42 PM
*bump*


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 02, 2004, 10:46:55 PM
Is a week considered five or seven days by the Senate? If its five, any debate should stop in 13 minutes.


Title: Re:Organized Party Amendment
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on October 02, 2004, 11:26:03 PM
A week has traditionally been considered to be seven days.  There are several Constitution provisions unrelated to the Senatorial Procedure Act that give seven days as the time required to do things.  I suppose we could even use a French Revolutionary Calendar week of ten days, but today is 3 October 2004, not 12 Vendemiaire 213, so probably not.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 04, 2004, 04:20:22 PM
Alright, it has been 7 days. PPT Harry or Vice President Andrew needs to open up a vote.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: ilikeverin on October 05, 2004, 10:17:12 AM
Hehe, we're not quite so organized any more :)  I support this bill.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 05, 2004, 05:40:23 PM
Hehe, we're not quite so organized any more :)  I support this bill.

Well for the future, incase a new  party is formed.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: YRABNNRM on October 06, 2004, 02:30:04 PM
Being that the PPT is absent...

All those in favor say AYE
All those against say NAY.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: The Dowager Mod on October 06, 2004, 02:54:40 PM
Nay.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 06, 2004, 05:39:13 PM
Aye.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: Platypus on October 06, 2004, 08:09:28 PM
Aye :)


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: StevenNick on October 07, 2004, 11:36:19 PM
Nay.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: 7,052,770 on October 10, 2004, 10:49:47 PM
Aye


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: Akno21 on October 11, 2004, 05:53:07 AM
Aye


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 12, 2004, 09:55:52 PM
Voting ends TOMORROW.


Title: Re: Organized Party Amendment
Post by: King on October 13, 2004, 01:59:51 PM
Voting is closed. Since the majority of the Senate voted this vote passes 4 to 2.