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Title: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Holmes on February 04, 2009, 08:53:55 pm
These numbers seem too good(or bad) to be true, but here you go.

Democratic Primary

Fischer 18
Brunner 16
Ryan 14
Don't know 53

Republican Primary

Portman 33
Taylor 11
Don't know 56

General Election

Portman (R) 27
Fisher (D) 42

Portman (R) 28
Brunner (D) 38

Link (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1255&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0)

But I bet the actual numbers so far are in between this poll and this one (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Ohio_119.pdf) from a little back.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: BM on February 04, 2009, 10:57:57 pm
I doubt many people in Ohio REALLY know who any of those people are.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Lunar on February 04, 2009, 11:03:46 pm
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 04, 2009, 11:31:35 pm
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Verily on February 04, 2009, 11:33:32 pm
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Of course, Portman should have national name recognition, too.

In reality, no more than 10% of the Ohio population has a clue who any of them are. Even if a lot want to express opinions anyway.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: BM on February 05, 2009, 12:36:39 am
What are the chances that Taylor even runs, and would she have any chance or effect on the campaign at all?

I think she'd be a decent candidate to challenge Sherrod Brown if she doesn't, though it'd be tough if Obama was still popular in 2012.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Verily on February 05, 2009, 12:40:06 am
What are the chances that Taylor even runs, and would she have any chance or effect on the campaign at all?

I think she'd be a decent candidate to challenge Sherrod Brown if she doesn't, though it'd be tough if Obama was still popular in 2012.

Taylor would be a speed bump to Portman, but nothing more. Portman has complete establishment support and a wide and deep fundraising network. He also has no major political vulnerabilities for Taylor to exploit. In an actual primary, I would expect Portman to win around 65-30 with 5% scattering if not better.

Will she actually run? Probably not; she'll announce she's not running some time in the fall or winter as it becomes clear that she is simply uncompetitive in all primary polls.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Padfoot on February 05, 2009, 12:49:33 am
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.

No one knows Fisher.  He's done nothing.

Everyone in Ohio who followed the 2008 election knows Brunner though..  She got a lot of election related press coverage and IMO most of it was not the kind of attention you want if you're looking to run for Senate.  She (along with the Ohio Democratic Party) has stirred up a boatload of baseless hand-wringing over electronic voting.  There was also the "Golden Week" debate:  The Republican legislature accidentally created an overlap between the voter registration deadline and the start of no-fault absentee voting.  This "Golden Week" allowed Ohioans to register and vote on the same day and the Democrats used this week to round up a lot of new voters (mostly college students and blacks).  Republicans were claiming that the ID checks being done on the newly registered voters weren't sufficient enough to allow them to vote on the same day and they wanted those ballots set aside to allow for more time to check their validity.  Brunner disagreed.

Anyways, the point is that Brunner should have the highest name recognition of all these candidates and she's probably one of the worst ones the Dems could pick.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: BM on February 05, 2009, 12:53:10 am
My conservative family absolutely hated Jennifer Brunner and they have no ties to Ohio.  She got a ton of coverage.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on February 05, 2009, 01:00:33 am
Pretty early on, but good news. I can't wait to give the Democratic Party my vote in 2010.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Lunar on February 05, 2009, 02:05:07 am
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.

Well, if you've voted for the guy then you'll get higher name recognition and you know if he was some crazy insane guy (say a Kucunich that never ran for president) you might have heard by now on the news if he was elected statewide.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 05, 2009, 11:20:29 am
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.

Well, if you've voted for the guy then you'll get higher name recognition and you know if he was some crazy insane guy (say a Kucunich that never ran for president) you might have heard by now on the news if he was elected statewide.

Well, I'll take the word of the Ohioans here and say that Brunner is fairly well known. However, just voting for the guy doesn't necessarily give one high name recognition. Plenty of people can vote for the top of the ticket and not know the Lt. Gubernatorial nominee.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on February 05, 2009, 04:39:55 pm
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.

Well, if you've voted for the guy then you'll get higher name recognition and you know if he was some crazy insane guy (say a Kucunich that never ran for president) you might have heard by now on the news if he was elected statewide.

Well, I'll take the word of the Ohioans here and say that Brunner is fairly well known. However, just voting for the guy doesn't necessarily give one high name recognition. Plenty of people can vote for the top of the ticket and not know the Lt. Gubernatorial nominee.

     Does Ohio elect its Governor & Lt. Governor together?


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 05, 2009, 06:12:11 pm
That's not fair, Fisher and Brunner are already statewide elected officials

Who really knows their Lt. Governor? Seriously. It was different in PA for awhile because of the infamous late CBK but most people didn't know her either.

Brunner is the Secretary of State. I doubt many know who their state Secretary of State is in Ohio.

Well, if you've voted for the guy then you'll get higher name recognition and you know if he was some crazy insane guy (say a Kucunich that never ran for president) you might have heard by now on the news if he was elected statewide.

Well, I'll take the word of the Ohioans here and say that Brunner is fairly well known. However, just voting for the guy doesn't necessarily give one high name recognition. Plenty of people can vote for the top of the ticket and not know the Lt. Gubernatorial nominee.

     Does Ohio elect its Governor & Lt. Governor together?

Yes and even if they didn't, I doubt people care about the latter race.


Title: Re: Quinnipiac: Democrats take the lead in Ohio
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on February 07, 2009, 06:27:51 pm
It's way too early for this to even mean ANYTHING.