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Title: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: DavidNYC on March 25, 2009, 12:56:13 PM
The Swing State Project is pleased to announce that we have finished calculating presidential results by congressional district for all 435 districts nationwide. You can find all the results here:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4161

Special thanks to Alcon of these boards for providing comprehensive results for the state of Washington.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 25, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
Congratulations for your excellent work.

You and your site have become a valuable source for every self-respecting political junkie.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Nym90 on March 25, 2009, 02:43:28 PM
Excellent!

Was 2004 ever done as well? There are several states that never had results or maps published for 2004 by CD on this site, though 2000 was completely done along with a national map. Would be nice to get all that data along with national CD maps on here for both 2004 and 2008.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 25, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 25, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.

Do you know how Many CDs were won by Obama ?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 25, 2009, 04:32:12 PM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.

Do you know how Many CDs were won by Obama ?

242. 193 for McCain.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: minionofmidas on March 25, 2009, 04:32:37 PM
Oooooh!

I just came onto my keyboard [/exagerrate].


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 25, 2009, 05:23:44 PM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.

Just a small nitpick: Obama won Barrow's district in Georgia.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: nclib on March 25, 2009, 05:45:18 PM
DavidNYC, congratulations on this accomplishment.

I know some states haven't divided the early votes and/or split precincts. In some states (mainly FL, GA, NC) some districts could be altered by several percent. Do you know when that will be complete?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: DavidNYC on March 25, 2009, 09:04:38 PM
First off, a huge thank you to everyone for all the kind compliments - coming from denizens of this board, this is high praise indeed.

Second, to answer the folks asking about data from earlier years, the link I posted in my first comment contains data for 2008, 2004, and 2000. While we only compiled 2008 ourselves, the older data is from a trusted source (Polidata by way of the Cook Political Report) and was used in the Almanac of American Politics. Please note that the 2000 data was indeed recalibrated for the post-2000 census redistricting, and the 2004 data for Georgia and Texas reflects the mid-decade redistricting those two states did.

To answer the question about early votes and split precincts, I don't think that those states (eg, Georgia) ever release proper data. We've made some educated guesses about what those splits are or ought to be, and we will probably have a more detailed post forthcoming about that. While it would be possible for results to shift somewhat, we think it's unlikely that there would be any major surprises.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Alcon on March 26, 2009, 02:17:21 AM
Congratulations, David.  I know you and your team worked long and hard on this.  Looks like you were easily the first ones, after all.  Glad to have been a small part of it.  :)


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 26, 2009, 05:44:52 AM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.

Do you know how Many CDs were won by Obama ?

242. 193 for McCain.

So, democrats won 15 more districts in the House elections that Obama did... ???


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: minionofmidas on March 26, 2009, 06:36:53 AM

So, democrats won 15 more districts in the House elections that Obama did... ???
This is surprising how?

There still are more areas solidly Republican at the presidential level but ready to vote for Democrats locally or even congressionally than the other way round.
And McCain clearly overperformed compared to Generic Republican in 2008. And not just in the anti-Obama Swing areas (though there by most. Presumably.)

House Democrats whose districts went for McCain:

McMahon, Massa (NY)
Dahlkemper, Altmire, Carney, Murtha, Holden (all in PA... most of these very close)
Wilson, Boccieri, Space (OH)
Ellsworth, Hill (IN 8 and 9 - both close)
Peterson (MN 7)
Skelton (MO 4)
Pomeroy, Herseth (Dakotas)
Kratovil (MD 1)
Perriello, Boucher (VA)
both WV Democrats
McIntyre, Shuler (NC, both close)
Spratt (SC 5)
Marshall (GA 8)
Boyd, Kozmas (FL - one blue dog, one scandal destroyed incumbent in a close district)
Chandler (KY 6)
Davis, Gordon, Tanner (TN)
Bright, Griffith (AL)
Childers, Taylor (MS)
all 3 AR Democrats
Melancon (LA 3)
Boren (OK 2)
Edwards (TX 17)
Minnick (ID 1)
Salazar, Markey (the two vast districts in CO, both close)
Teague (NM 2, close)
Kirkpatrick, Mitchell, Giffords (AZ... and given how similar areas in other states swung, possibly all three can be attributed to a Home State Effect for McCain)
Matheson (UT 2)

House Republicans whose district went for Obama

McHugh (NY 23)
LoBiondo, Lance (NJ)
Gerlach, Dent (PA)
Tiberi (OH 12)
Roskam, Kirk, Biggert, Manzullo (IL... just a tiny bit more of a swing and McCain would have been reduced to one district)
Camp, Upton, Rogers, McCotter (MI)
Ryan, Petri (WI)
Paulson (MN 3)
Latham (IA 4)
Terry (NE 2)
Castle (DE)
Forbes, Wolf (VA)
Young, Ros Lehtinen (FL)
Cao (LA 2)
Lungren, Gallegly, McKeon, Dreier, Calvert, Bono, Campbell, Bilbray (all in CA - a state where McCain probably did worse than Generic R. Almost all very close, mind)


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 26, 2009, 06:54:06 AM
Second, to answer the folks asking about data from earlier years, the link I posted in my first comment contains data for 2008, 2004, and 2000. While we only compiled 2008 ourselves, the older data is from a trusted source (Polidata by way of the Cook Political Report) and was used in the Almanac of American Politics. Please note that the 2000 data was indeed recalibrated for the post-2000 census redistricting, and the 2004 data for Georgia and Texas reflects the mid-decade redistricting those two states did.

If I understand correctly, the 2000 results are notional results for the 2002 redistricting, and the 2004 GA+TX results are notional results on the new post-2004 districts there?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Nym90 on March 26, 2009, 11:48:10 AM
First off, a huge thank you to everyone for all the kind compliments - coming from denizens of this board, this is high praise indeed.

Second, to answer the folks asking about data from earlier years, the link I posted in my first comment contains data for 2008, 2004, and 2000. While we only compiled 2008 ourselves, the older data is from a trusted source (Polidata by way of the Cook Political Report) and was used in the Almanac of American Politics. Please note that the 2000 data was indeed recalibrated for the post-2000 census redistricting, and the 2004 data for Georgia and Texas reflects the mid-decade redistricting those two states did.

To answer the question about early votes and split precincts, I don't think that those states (eg, Georgia) ever release proper data. We've made some educated guesses about what those splits are or ought to be, and we will probably have a more detailed post forthcoming about that. While it would be possible for results to shift somewhat, we think it's unlikely that there would be any major surprises.

Awesome. Perhaps you can inform Dave Leip and see if he would permit the 2004 data and maps to be added to this site?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Sbane on March 26, 2009, 02:39:01 PM
I compiled a map of this throughout, so here it is, finished.

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I might do 2004 now.

Do you know how Many CDs were won by Obama ?

242. 193 for McCain.

So, democrats won 15 more districts in the House elections that Obama did... ???

As has been stated above there were a lot of areas where generic democrats did better than Obama( most of the non black south, Appalachia, East Ohio/West PA). Then there were places where Obama did better than a generic democrat like most of California, Illinois( obviously), and most of the upper midwest. That is actually pretty significant imo, but still in this election a democrats did better at the local level than at the presidential level. 


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 28, 2009, 07:55:44 AM
2008, fixed

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2004, on post-2004 GA and TX districts

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2008 comparison between House and Prez

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Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Verily on March 28, 2009, 01:41:34 PM
OH-15 should be Obama-Democrat, not Obama-Republican. Same with KY-03. There's also a district around Pittsburgh with weird shading that should be McCain-Republican. PA-15 should be Obama-Republican, not Obama-Democrat.

Also, what was the result in CO-04?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Ronnie on March 28, 2009, 03:10:40 PM
In addition to OH-15, fix NY-24 and KY-3.

Verily, to see all of the CD results, check here:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4161


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 28, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
OH-15 should be Obama-Democrat, not Obama-Republican. Same with KY-03. There's also a district around Pittsburgh with weird shading that should be McCain-Republican. PA-15 should be Obama-Republican, not Obama-Democrat.

Also, what was the result in CO-04?

49.54% McCain, 48.66% Obama

In addition to OH-15, fix NY-24 and KY-3.

Verily, to see all of the CD results, check here:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4161

NY-24 has a Democratic representative.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Ronnie on March 28, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
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NY-24 has a Democratic representative.

But McCain didn't win the district.  Hence the light blue color.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 28, 2009, 09:22:33 PM
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NY-24 has a Democratic representative.

But McCain didn't win the district.  Hence the light blue color.

Ah. I see what you mean. Sorry for the confusion.

F'xed map:

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Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 28, 2009, 11:23:26 PM
A surprising number of McCain/Democratic CD's; not just from the South.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Sbane on March 29, 2009, 12:20:21 AM
A surprising number of McCain/Democratic CD's; not just from the South.

Actually most of them are in the south plus Ohio, West Virginia and Western Pa. Arizona is easily explained but Colorado is a bit more interesting. Then again the CO-4 was pretty damn close. The northern plains isn't that surprising either.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 29, 2009, 01:00:21 AM
A surprising number of McCain/Democratic CD's; not just from the South.

Don't forget that the Democrats hold now a big majority of CD.
That along with Republican gerrymandering can explain the seeming discrepancy.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 29, 2009, 04:22:00 AM
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NY-24 has a Democratic representative.

But McCain didn't win the district.  Hence the light blue color.

Ah. I see what you mean. Sorry for the confusion.

F'xed map:

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Interesting map : more democrats in the south and west, more republicans in the northern midwest and northeast. However, southern congressional democrats should be more conservatives than their party and northern republicans more progressives.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Ronnie on March 29, 2009, 10:38:24 AM
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NY-24 has a Democratic representative.

But McCain didn't win the district.  Hence the light blue color.

Ah. I see what you mean. Sorry for the confusion.

F'xed map:

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Wait a second, why is Alaska light blue?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on March 29, 2009, 11:10:53 AM
Damn. I forgot HI and AK.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Husker on March 29, 2009, 09:58:22 PM
These are awesome, thanks! Any chance we could get a map of how CD's swung from '04 to '08? :)



Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: DavidNYC on March 30, 2009, 08:03:56 PM
Royer: I'm not 100% sure on what you mean by "notional" in this context, but to confirm, the numbers on the chart for the 2000 election reflect the district boundaries that came into being after states created new maps after the 2000 census. This can be confirmed by the fact that brand new districts like NC-13 are shown with numbers. (If we were using pre-2002 district lines, NC-13 would be empty because it simply didn't exist.)

The same is also true for GA and TX, the two states which did mid-decade redistricting.

Nym: I emailed Dave a link to this data. He is more than welcome to use it on the site!


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: minionofmidas on March 31, 2009, 07:33:02 AM
Royer: I'm not 100% sure on what you mean by "notional" in this context, but to confirm, the numbers on the chart for the 2000 election reflect the district boundaries that came into being after states created new maps after the 2000 census. This can be confirmed by the fact that brand new districts like NC-13 are shown with numbers. (If we were using pre-2002 district lines, NC-13 would be empty because it simply didn't exist.)

The same is also true for GA and TX, the two states which did mid-decade redistricting.

So are they the 2000 GA and TX results those for the current districts, or for the post-2002 districts? That was his question - your wording wasn't clear. Though the TX results make it obvious that it's the former, really. (By notional, he means that the districts didn't actually exist at the time of the election. The term is somewhat out of place here as these districts aren't used for presidential elections anyways.)


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: DavidNYC on April 02, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
Yes re GA & TX - sorry for the confusion. The numbers reflect the current maps.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on September 05, 2009, 12:59:14 PM
Bump.

We need Dave to put it on the Atlas !!!


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 03, 2010, 12:14:35 PM
Bump. So when is Dave going to add it to the Atlas database ?


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 05, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Ok, so nobody cares...


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 15, 2010, 12:03:26 PM
Anyways, this maps shows States fro which 2008 CD maps are available (yellow States have only one seat).

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So, once we get NJ, MD, GA, FL, TN, TX, OH, IL, MO, OK, CO and OR maps, we'll also finally have the nationwide one.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Nym90 on August 16, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
Considering that the final 2004 national CD map was never finished on this site, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for 2008.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 16, 2010, 01:28:59 PM
Considering that the final 2004 national CD map was never finished on this site, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for 2008.

Sure that, since I'm the only one who seems to care, I doubt Leip will have the impression the forum absolutely wants a complete CD map.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on August 16, 2010, 01:40:09 PM
Considering that the final 2004 national CD map was never finished on this site, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for 2008.

Sure that, since I'm the only one who seems to care, I doubt Leip will have the impression the forum absolutely wants a complete CD map.

I'd like one, but I have 2004 and 2008 national maps in my files anyway.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 16, 2010, 06:33:14 PM
Considering that the final 2004 national CD map was never finished on this site, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for 2008.

Sure that, since I'm the only one who seems to care, I doubt Leip will have the impression the forum absolutely wants a complete CD map.

I'd like one, but I have 2004 and 2008 national maps in my files anyway.

Actually, precise data insterests me mor than the map (indeed yes, we already have yours on this thread and I can't stop watching them), since I'd like to know I which districts Obama did better than nation (or state) wide and in which he did worse, in order to precisely measure gerrymandering.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Hash on August 17, 2010, 08:33:00 AM
Considering that the final 2004 national CD map was never finished on this site, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for 2008.

Sure that, since I'm the only one who seems to care, I doubt Leip will have the impression the forum absolutely wants a complete CD map.

I'd like one, but I have 2004 and 2008 national maps in my files anyway.

Actually, precise data insterests me mor than the map (indeed yes, we already have yours on this thread and I can't stop watching them), since I'd like to know I which districts Obama did better than nation (or state) wide and in which he did worse, in order to precisely measure gerrymandering.

SSP should still have all the actual numbers up on their websites. If not, I could find them somewhere.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: ElectionAtlas on August 24, 2010, 12:31:43 PM
Anyways, this maps shows States fro which 2008 CD maps are available (yellow States have only one seat).

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So, once we get NJ, MD, GA, FL, TN, TX, OH, IL, MO, OK, CO and OR maps, we'll also finally have the nationwide one.

FYI, I am working on this some more - I've completed OR & TN, close in FL, IL,  NJ, and OH.  GA is tabulated, but is kind of ridiculous - over 1million votes not allocated.  Haven't started CO, TX, OK.
(Note I've tabulated these completely independent of SSP - I don't allocate the split votes).

Dave


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 24, 2010, 02:11:10 PM
Thanks a lot. :) I hope you'll manage to have this finished soon.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Nym90 on August 25, 2010, 08:22:05 AM
Thanks a lot. :) I hope you'll manage to have this finished soon.

Agreed. For both 2008 and 2004. :)


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: memphis on August 25, 2010, 08:27:26 PM
Pretty ridiculous how "packed" Democrats are. Obama had 26 districts where he won at least 80% of the vote. McCain had 0.


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 26, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Pretty ridiculous how "packed" Democrats are. Obama had 26 districts where he won at least 80% of the vote. McCain had 0.

"Gerrymandering doesn't favor republicans", eh Franzl ? ::)


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on March 17, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
No add in almost 2 years... :(


Title: Re: Presidential Results by Congressional District Project Now Complete
Post by: minionofmidas on April 07, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Pretty ridiculous how "packed" Democrats are. Obama had 26 districts where he won at least 80% of the vote. McCain had 0.

"Gerrymandering doesn't favor republicans", eh Franzl ? ::)
Some of these are some of the most "natural", reasonable districts in the US. Not all, of course.