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Title: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: The love that set me free on June 10, 2009, 09:23:37 am
Is McCain regretting Palin now?


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Joe Republic on June 10, 2009, 09:27:51 am
He's been regretting Palin since the Gibson and Couric interviews.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on June 10, 2009, 10:06:26 am
He's been regretting Palin since the Gibson and Couric interviews.

Palin was America's sweetheart. Then she opened her mouth.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 10, 2009, 10:17:33 am
He's regretted Palin since those interviews.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: bgwah on June 10, 2009, 11:29:44 am
Why are you making this now?


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: ░tmthforu94░ on June 10, 2009, 11:45:25 am
No. He wouldn't have won anyways. I don't think having Palin on the ticket lost him any states. Conservatives voted heavy for McCain in Indiana, because of Palin. Obama would have won it more comfortably, if not for Palin.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Franzl on June 10, 2009, 11:53:42 am
No. He wouldn't have won anyways. I don't think having Palin on the ticket lost him any states. Conservatives voted heavy for McCain in Indiana, because of Palin.

What exactly does that do for you if you lose a greater amount of independents?


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: ░tmthforu94░ on June 10, 2009, 12:17:55 pm
No. He wouldn't have won anyways. I don't think having Palin on the ticket lost him any states. Conservatives voted heavy for McCain in Indiana, because of Palin.

What exactly does that do for you if you lose a greater amount of independents?
He could have lost some Independants. But good Republican turnout was more important for the McCain camp. Palin fired up Republicans, and got people going door-to-door for McCain, something Romney or Pawlenty couldn't have done.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: The love that set me free on June 11, 2009, 01:39:44 am
Why are you making this now?

Palin's latest gaffe reminded me.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: tweed on June 11, 2009, 01:43:51 am
he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Calvin and Hobbes on June 11, 2009, 01:59:55 am
I think so, but I regret her even more.

My grandmother, a Republican, said Palin would be better on a comedy show.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on June 11, 2009, 05:34:37 am
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Eraserhead on June 13, 2009, 08:35:20 am
It would be only natural.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: pogo stick on June 13, 2009, 10:05:39 am
McCain regretted her the minute he picked her. He hates Conservatives like her.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: ░tmthforu94░ on June 13, 2009, 10:06:48 am
McCain regretted her the minute he picked her. He hates Conservatives like her.
That's a stupid thing to say.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: YRABNNRM on June 13, 2009, 10:53:57 am
McCain regretted her the minute he picked her. He hates Conservatives like her.
That's a stupid thing to say.

That actually may be the most intelligent post he's ever made.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: ░tmthforu94░ on June 13, 2009, 10:56:20 am
McCain regretted her the minute he picked her. He hates Conservatives like her.
That's a stupid thing to say.

That actually may be the most intelligent post he's ever made.
Not that McCain regretted it, but that he regretted it right away.
First of all, he chose her before anyone else knew, and knew several days in advance. If he automatically regretted her, he could easily cancel out, with no worries. Secondly, for the first month or so after Palin was selected, she gave him a chance of winning. Also, McCain doesn't hate conservatives. You can't get in his brain, so he doesn't know that.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: YRABNNRM on June 13, 2009, 12:33:41 pm
Also, McCain doesn't hate conservatives. You can't get in his brain, so he doesn't know that.

The key to his post was "like her." Despite the fact that he had to pander to them in 2008, he has never been a friend of the far right. This is the man who called Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" years ago.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Eraserhead on June 29, 2009, 10:45:09 pm
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.

I think he understood that he'd never be able to get away with putting a fanook on the ticket.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Magic 8-Ball on June 30, 2009, 03:51:46 am
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.

I think he understood that he'd never be able to get away with putting a fanook on the ticket.

Oh, they could've doctored a marriage for him.  After all, it sort of worked for Crist.  :P

While Ridge would have been his best running mate (and easily the most likely of the three), I do think Graham would've been better than Lieberman.  And I doubt he would've pissed as many people off as did Palin, gay rumors or not.  I do wonder, though, if gay>Muslim in the minds of fools.

BTW, I don't think I've ever heard "fanook" before.  Is it an NYC thing?


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: angus green on July 02, 2009, 01:38:15 pm
I think he does. Whatever he says now, McCain clearly wanted to choose Lieberman, but didn't have the guts to go against the party establishment and his campaign staff. The irony is that if he had selected Lieberman, the religious right would have accepted it pretty quickly. Indeed, shortly before the Palin selection Huckabee clearly said that he would support anyone who respected the GOP's stance on abortion (implying that all Lieberman had to do was to make appropriate assurances about judges).

The whole Palin selection was nothing to do with abortion or women's rights, but was to do with fiscal conservatives wanting to geld, as well as brand, "Maverick" McCain.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Eraserhead on July 05, 2009, 02:36:16 am
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.

I think he understood that he'd never be able to get away with putting a fanook on the ticket.

Oh, they could've doctored a marriage for him.  After all, it sort of worked for Crist.  :P

While Ridge would have been his best running mate (and easily the most likely of the three), I do think Graham would've been better than Lieberman.  And I doubt he would've pissed as many people off as did Palin, gay rumors or not.  I do wonder, though, if gay>Muslim in the minds of fools.

BTW, I don't think I've ever heard "fanook" before.  Is it an NYC thing?

NY Italian thing, yes.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: The Duke on July 05, 2009, 03:57:56 am
He does regret her, but he shouldn't.  She isn't the reason he lost.  If he wants to blame someone he should blame George Bush.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Landslide Lyndon on July 05, 2009, 04:46:22 am
He should regret the fact that he gave this nutjob the chance to be, even theoretically, a heartbeat away from the presidency.
That was the most reckless, unpatriotic and cavalier political act by a presidential candidate in a long time.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: minionofmidas - supplemental forum account on July 05, 2009, 06:48:34 am
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.

I think he understood that he'd never be able to get away with putting a fanook on the ticket.

Oh, they could've doctored a marriage for him.  After all, it sort of worked for Crist.  :P

While Ridge would have been his best running mate (and easily the most likely of the three), I do think Graham would've been better than Lieberman.  And I doubt he would've pissed as many people off as did Palin, gay rumors or not.  I do wonder, though, if gay>Muslim in the minds of fools.

BTW, I don't think I've ever heard "fanook" before.  Is it an NYC thing?

NY Italian thing, yes.
"finocchio" is Italian.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on July 05, 2009, 03:21:10 pm
Does he? Maybe
Should he? No

McCain needed a game changer and Palin was a game changer.  Perhaps picking Romney or Pawlenty may have gotten him closer, but he would not have won.  He needed someone to shake things up, maybe he didn't pick the right person to shake things up but he picked someone who gave him a better chance to win.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 05, 2009, 04:09:45 pm
Does he? Maybe
Should he? No

McCain needed a game changer and Palin was a game changer.  Perhaps picking Romney or Pawlenty may have gotten him closer, but he would not have won.  He needed someone to shake things up, maybe he didn't pick the right person to shake things up but he picked someone who gave him a better chance to win.

Another person who was just as conservative but less eratic would have Tennessee Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn. She would have been far less damaging in the suburbs and just as successful at rallying the base.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Eraserhead on July 05, 2009, 05:01:48 pm
He's regretted Palin since she first opened her mouth.

he wishes he went with his gut and went with Ridge or Lieberman, I've thought for a while

Either those or Lindsey Graham.

I think he understood that he'd never be able to get away with putting a fanook on the ticket.

Oh, they could've doctored a marriage for him.  After all, it sort of worked for Crist.  :P

While Ridge would have been his best running mate (and easily the most likely of the three), I do think Graham would've been better than Lieberman.  And I doubt he would've pissed as many people off as did Palin, gay rumors or not.  I do wonder, though, if gay>Muslim in the minds of fools.

BTW, I don't think I've ever heard "fanook" before.  Is it an NYC thing?

NY Italian thing, yes.
"finocchio" is Italian.

I know, "fanook" is Italian-American slang derived from that word.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Keyboard Jacobinism on July 05, 2009, 08:02:13 pm
Well, I can't say what is McCain thinking, but in his place I will regret.

Maybe not because of electoral puropuses, as he was going, for a number of reasons (like economy, George W. Bush and republican fatique) to lose, but with more credible running-mate (as you know I'm not supporter of Republican Party, but I can say there were much more credible and able possibilities, such as Huntsman, Crist or if he really wanted to pick a woman above all someone like Hutchison or Snowe) he'd do better.

McCain really should regret because now, despite his all previous accomplishment (which I can't deny him, in fact until 2004 he was one of the hanbdful Republicans I've respected ;) ) he is going down with history as a man who wanted to place immature and irresponsible (as her resignation showed) provincional, unexperienced governor heartbeat away from the button.

Oh yes, that';s something to regret!


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Bo on December 21, 2009, 01:16:22 am
Oh yeah.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: TheGreatOne on January 04, 2010, 01:20:27 pm
Does he? Maybe
Should he? No
McCain needed a game changer and Palin was a game changer.  Perhaps picking Romney or Pawlenty may have gotten him closer, but he would not have won.  He needed someone to shake things up, maybe he didn't pick the right person to shake things up but he picked someone who gave him a better chance to win.
Palin was a game changer.  However, I think it would be more apporpriate to call her a game ender for McCain.  She certainly made my vote alot easier.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on January 04, 2010, 08:37:33 pm
No.


Title: Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on January 05, 2010, 12:10:02 am
Does he? Maybe
Should he? No
McCain needed a game changer and Palin was a game changer.  Perhaps picking Romney or Pawlenty may have gotten him closer, but he would not have won.  He needed someone to shake things up, maybe he didn't pick the right person to shake things up but he picked someone who gave him a better chance to win.
Palin was a game changer.  However, I think it would be more apporpriate to call her a game ender for McCain.  She certainly made my vote alot easier.
the game-ender for McCain was "the fundamentals of our economy are strong." Of course, having Palin making an idiot of herself all over the TV at the same time didn't help.